Trick is for Nerds EditionPokémon Champions is a free to play online battle simulator available on Switch and mobile. It features ranked, casual and private battles for both singles and doubles, and will be used for VGC tournaments in 2026.>NewsEnter HAJ1MAR1G1FT for a free 100 Quick Coupons and CHAMP10N for a free Machamp.>Resources and useful linksCommunity Tournaments usage data: https://pikalytics.com/Ladder usage data: https://pokechamdb.com/enNew Player Guide(NEW PEOPLE READ THIS):https://rentry.org/pcg-guide (now taking suggestions and feedback)Quick FAQ>Do I need my own Pokémon to play?No, the game features a recruitment system, but transferring from Home is recommended to save time and resources.>What makes the game so much more accessible than before?All aspects of a Pokémon are customizable with VP, a currency earned simply by playing the game. IVs are also removed.Ask in the thread if you want any specific Pokémon, and someone will respond.>Is there single player content?No.>Do I need a Nintendo Online subscription?No.>What's the starter pack?US$6.99 one time purchase for 50 training tickets (fully train for free), 30 Teammate Tickets (recruit Pokemon without using VP), 50 extra box space and the LGPE trainer music. Only available on Switch for now.>Is anything locked behind a paywall?So far everything gameplay relevant is also purchasable with VP. Only E-Floette require ZA transfer.>/pcg/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread):https://pastebin.com/d2FJZdPhPrevious: >>59420649
>working my way through ultra ball>someone is still trying to make Entrainment Mega Hwalucha workOh you poor thing
>>59424124Don't make fun of me you fucking faggot. Honestly, this early season feels a lot harder than when I played last season (middle of the season), probably because everyone is trying to climb at the same time. I had never lost that many games in a row, I'm struggling even getting to Ultra Ball 2.
>>59424124>someone tying a non metaslop team?>better be condescending and insult them!kys
>>59424107Can one of you wonderful chuds facilitate my triple pseudo team please
>>59424128Not him, but I actually have less respect for Fissure Snorlax and Minimize Qwilfish players than I do metafags. Cheese users don't deserve any respect at all.
>>59424132who asked you?
>>59424128Autoplay teams are worse than meta teams.
Should I bother holding onto Enamorus and Regieleki in Home or should I just dump them off to trade up to Floette considering they're never going to be usable in this game anyways? I also have one of each of the paradox Johto and Unova trios.
>>59424135>considering they're never going to be usable in this game anyways
>Got every read wrong>Still won anyway because my team is just far better
>>59424130sent :)
>>59424135They're mid tier legendaries which have always been available for use in standard play so they'll become legal eventually but we don't know when with Champions' dripfeed rateIt's the cover and event legendaries that rarely see use, and usually only in special regulations where they let you bring in one per team
>8 win streak with my team on singlesWhy can't it be like this in doubles
>ttar/excadrill against archaludon/incineroar>excadrill uses high horsepower on archaludon and brings it to low enough that the next hit will kill>archaludon takes out my ttar, incineroar at 1/3rd of hp uses flare blitz on excadrill>mfw I click forfeit before I remember about the recoil on flare blitz
>>59424178It's just that we don't know how legendaries will be handled in this game. If they're going to be transfer only on there's going to be some special probably annoying method. In general Enamorus and Regieleki are available in Go so they don't seem as valuable. I plan to just get rid of them and trade up. Shiny Pokemon aren't easy to obtain in Champions so they still seem pretty valued in Home.
Does the top of the meta have speed control every single game? If not - at what point do I get to high enough meta that 75% of games aren't either TR or TW
>>59424187Yes.
>>59424187Yes.Pokeball tier maybe.
Why so many attacks to support Raichu Y but so little to justify running Raichu X? This feels like more Pikachu propaganda
Thoughts on my team?
Tailwind should've worked like weather where the last one activated is the only one active.This would've added more mindgame and skill expression.
>>59424230You run X to run Rising Voltage and nuke shit. The issue is there's no good electric types atm that can abuse it besides Jolt.
>>59424245Any good electric types incoming? I'm ignorant about vcg beyond this game
>>59424251Not really, at least anything that's not a legends/paradox/UB etc. I guess there's shit like Galvantula, Magnezone, or Toxicrity, but those are all slow and frail and not doubles focused.
>>59424237no protect on raichu nor chandelure, while simultaneously not running scarf on the tsareena for the triple axel against chomp is definitely a choice.Whats your lead against swampert in rain?
>>59424245Why am I forced to play a special attack on a physical mon?
>>59424259You aren't.
>>59424259Because it hits harder than its physical attacks, thus making it a special mon.
>>59424240The mindgames are delaying it turn one and risking being slower in order to get an extra turn of tailwind over your opponent.
Wew laddie
>>59424256Trickroom Slowbro with Protect Tsareena. Slowbro can probably tank a hit which is all I need it to do, and once Trickroom is up Tsareena one shots with a single trop kick.I may swap out will-o-wisp for protect on Chandelure though. I've basically never used it.
any suggestion on how to make the team better? if possible I would like to depend less on sinistcha.whimsicott is max sp.atk
I hate all of the "I win because I just have better stats than you" archetype of monssomehow hitting you like a truck but tanking everything you throw at them at the same time
>>59424298archaludon?
>>59424173Thank you anon please have my babies
>>59424173Bro no way you’re the same guy that gave me my A Ninetales you are such a fucking goat <33333
I wrongly posted in the old thread, but yeah A-ninetales is perfect with Dragalgae because you also hit swampert with freeze dry. I might build it.
Is there a good teamsheet out yet for the new meta? Or should I wait a week or so before building anythingSomething similar to this, team overview and how to use it:https://teamsheet.gg/t/sample-beginner-reg-b-vl3698
>>59424418Nothing changed, we are still in reg b
>>59424418im the author and no, there isnt a new one since nothing changed. Technically i wrote one for the draft league (https://teamsheet.gg/t/week-1-draft-nha5ac), but that is only relevant for people following the draft. You can watch cybertron videos since he always shows what to lead and explains the team in detail. Is there no other teamsheets in the site which you can follow instead if you are just interested in a deep dive explanation of how to use a team?
I spent all my tickets rerolling and couldn't find that damn rafflesia can anyone spare a vileplume? I'm giving a green cat in return...
Anyone care to explain why Nintendo doesn't let me tag pokemon I've sent to Champions so I don't have to do it later after I send it back from Champions?
>>59424435cool so meta didnt change my team is still viable?>>59424448Your link doesnt work. >Is there no other teamsheets in the site which you can follow instead if you are just interested in a deep dive explanation of how to use a team?Which ones would you recommend?
wyd in this situation
>>59424594turn 360 degrees and walk away
>>59424594sucker punch with 10 trillion attack mawile
>>59424594>intimidate>mega evolve>intimidate>knock off
>lose because draco meteor misses 2 turns in a rowI don't know why I still feel anything when it happens.
It finally happened, I lost to a Make it Rain miss
>>59424671>>59424682Should have used dragon pulse and flash cannon
>>59424693I really should but losing that much damage for 10 accuracy just feels bad on paper.
I don't understand people who spend the ENTIRE standby timer thinking about their team in fucking pokeball rank
Ok, I am building a m drag team.>m-draga>a-ninetales>giraffe>grimm>sinistcha>torkoalTorkoal gives me pause because I feel like this team lacks a proper charizard answer unless I put ancient power on it, but it's also amazing under tr.Ninetales is for rain and garchomp, but I have Sinistcha so maybe I can drop her? Since she's also not good under tr? Or I should replace Grimmsnarl, since I already have screens from Ninetales.
>>59424298Chompbros...
>>59424245I wish A-Raichu was considered and pokemon so you could actually capitalize on surge surfer.
>>59424297>whomosicott>sinistcha>any suggestions fellow anons?? :*)yeah, kys
i need more moves like Body Press so shitmons who were cursed with the "small HP big defenses" archetype can actually do something and not be entirely outclassed by the "big HP mediocre defenses" archetype which has just strictly better bulk with less stat investment
people who call farigiraf "giraffe" or say "mons" or other VGCtuber bullshit lingo deserve to die
>>59424842Nah, this son is cooked. Bro is gonna fume when shit like Val and Lando get added.
>>59424297max special attack whimsicott does so much work for me sometimes I dont even use tailwind just to do more damage
>>59424124I like the free wins, so I encourage more people to use that team
>>59424842It's a giraffe, anon
>>59424230I recenty faced someone using physical set raichu x and I felt so bad for him. He already started off at -1 from mawile intimidate, but then then ate a parting shot into a duraludon swith and his volt tackle did absolutely no damage while giving me the +1 def boost
>>59424892Don't feel bad, he chose that life
I finally made the perfect team for me and got to master all rank today
>>59424682Yeah the accuracy nerf is way worse than the -2 drop
what exactly is so great about kingambit exactly? do people just not carry fighting type coverage? that nigga folds to fucking karate chop
>>59424903I almost shot straight to MB in one day but I lost the final match and then got trapped in UB1 hell for fucking hours. I'm still not free of it.
>>59424903Is playing hard trick room even any fun to play? It feels like one of the easier archetypes to get around. Also>male mawile
>>59424907defiant is one of the best abilities in the game, it's got STAB on one of the best priority moves in the game, good typing and stats. What exactly are you not understanding?
>>59424903this is my exact team except khang is better than matcha ghost, and rock slide is better than iron head
>>59424915defiant and sucker punch both rely on your opponent being a retard and playing into themi guess i can see why he would be a great pubstomper
>>59424842Farig is short and much less cumbersome.
>>59424924That fact that defiant kingambit even exists already applies pressure on the opponent before the match even starts, which is amazing within itself. It's just an amazing option to have on a lot of teams.
>>59424907>do people just not carry fighting type coverageNot really, you have CC om Fraudptor and Sneasler but otherwise people don't carry it.
>>59424903>intimidate>iron head>sitrus>psychic>hyper voice>leech life>iron head again>strength sap>shiny spammerretard
>>59424907>>59424952pretty sure mmawile play rough ohkos
I just ignore anything that my opponent can use to play around me and it works more than half the time the higher up I go in the ranks because they think I can think
>>59424932and calling you fag instead of faggot is and i quote "short and much less cumbersome."kys reddit lingo pedo
>>59424909that was me last season until I made this team >>59424911It's fun to see if you can get around them stopping your trick room >>59424917Iron head is only to stop fairy types though I haven't really faced much so might be something I look into when I try to get to champion rank
>>59424903I swapped out my mawile for a dragalge because I could literally never fight anything it could attack into and it's been great for me. have you gotten a lot of use out of araquanid?
>every team NEEDS a tailwind monotherwise>every team NEEDS a trick room monwow amazing gameplay and quite varied, also love that they give close combat to everything under the sun, including but not limited to Arcanine(lmao)/Mudsdale/Lycanroc/SharPEDO/Absolgame is unplayable until they add a fuckton more mons, im tired of whimiscott/sinistcha/farigiraf/cerealtigermon/rain team/grimmsnarl etc etc etc
>>59424978>until they add a fuckton more monsi'll spoon feed you here, but the meta will only be more restrictive when they add in stronger threats, retard
Where the FUCK is GastrodonGive me a single Storm Drain mon you cuntsI'd even take Cradily.
>>59424981NTA but this is peak brainlet take.in smogon, gen 9 OU i am 1.8elo, to give you an idea that’s around top 30.i don’t use tailwindi don’t use trick roomi don’t use legendariesi don’t use paradox monsall this because the range of pokemons and items i can utilise is varied and the meta is not set.please, stop being a fucking retard, think of your parents and how disappointing you already are to them.
>>59424957Yeah, well, you're a faggot
>enemy puts up Aurora Veil>swaps to bulky ghost-type so you can't even Brick Break>impossible to do more than tickle them for 8 turns
>>59425040u might be functionally retarded that your fanfic situation trumps literally every meaningful pokemon event, ever, allowing strong mons, uses the strong monsplease seek help, im so serious
Watch Baek's stream. He's running roar cycling TR farig to get around hyper beam cool down on Sylveon
>>59424594>Have Mimikyu shadow claw it when it is forced to break your disguise.
>>59425059>fanfic situationok, nice argument>every meaningful pokemon eventnot the main focus of champions, it isn’t to benefit 20 dudes that meet events.>please seek help, im so serious"no u" its tiresome man, get new material
Why does every other team have a Hydreigon now? I never saw any last season.
>>59425087its a freebie to new accounts, you are meeting mostly phone users i guess.
>>59425084wtf are you talking about? literally the entire history of pokemon is people taking EXTREMELY strong mons that are meta defining, like megas, primals, legendaries, etc., and creating teams to support them. You aren't cool or special for doing this with a slightly shittier mon. I sincerely doubt you, a random faggot on 4chan, eclipse the entire history of competitive pokemon.
>>59425040Why the fuck are you even bringing up TR and TW as if those are things in singles?
>lose because the enemy gets two crits in a row
>>59425064I dig it.How many can he get off before Farig or Sylveon faint?
>>59425110I literally just did that to someone kek was it a m-fros/tink/glim team
>>59425056bro your ghost or dark type attacks?
>>59425120he was doing ok but got venusaur'd when it started using ep instead of sludge bomb. also it's a zardslop mega aero team, sadly
>can't protect or it encores >can't attack or its partner fake outs and it tailwinds uhh what exactly to you do against whimsicott is running the le meta giraffe the only way to stop this
>>59425134you don't the impossibility of preventing that setup is strongly responsible for the ubiquity of farig and trick room
>>59425134armor tail + fake out whim partner
It feels like the game itself is countering whatever I try to do.>Oh, you don't have any fairy-types right now? Here's 100 teams with a White Herb Draco Meteor spammer who can just one-shot everything>You put on Focus Sash? Here's a bunch of teams built around entry hazards. I know you haven't seen those at any point before now, but it just felt like a good time to throw some in for no particular reason
>choice specs/band likely coming soon
>>59425134Use trickroom.
>>59425056That's why I always run at least one weather setter on my teams. Even if it's not a weather my team gets a lot out of, just getting rid of whatever my opponent set up is always worth it.
>>59424907>>59424952I feel like it's probably way worse with M-Raichu Y Focus blast running around.
>opponents quick claw actives three times>two of them are icebeams that freeze merigged
>>59424984Bro? Your Lumineon tailwind setter?
>>59425170I've never frozen anyone with blizzard the entire time I've played champions it's super rigged
>>59425146confirmation bias
put my nigga dusclops in need that bulky TR setter with fake out right now it's either sableye or cofag but can't do both
>>59425197Fuck Dusclops I hope Eviolite never gets added to the game. Justice for my man Dusknoir.
If I open charizard + glimm and you open Pelliper + anything, i'm going to use earth power and the pelliper because you're obviously going to switch out.
>GTS listing is asking for a level 1-10 Shedinja>Shedinja is always created at the same level as Ninjask when Nincada evolves>minimum level for Nincada to evolve is 20Is the GTS just full of retards? I guess someone could gen a level 1 Shedinja, but what reason even is there to ask for a low-level Shedinja that only someone with a modded Switch could make for you?There are even listings asking to trade high-level Shedinjas for level 1-10 Shedinjas.
thought I was cute running tinkaton but starting to realize why it kinda sucksif there's no fairies to smash after turn 1 it kinda just does nothing
>>59425222Nah, Tink is good as a support mon. Even resisted Gigaton Hammer does obscene damage to most shit.
>>59425224Tinkaton has such a mediocre attack stat, though.Metagross has almost double Tinkaton's attack. Wouldn't a Meteor Mash or Iron Head from him hit just as hard while also dealing good damage with his other coverage options, as opposed to Tinkaton who deals shit damage without Gigaton Hammer?
>>59425102i don’t play singles fucktard, what’s your point?
>>59425227>0 Atk Tinkaton Gigaton Hammer vs. 32 HP / 32 Def Farigiraf: 70-84 (30.8 - 37%) -- 69.2% chance to 3HKO>32+ Atk Metagross Iron Head vs. 32 HP / 32 Def Farigiraf: 76-91 (33.4 - 40%) -- guaranteed 3HKO>32+ Atk Tough Claws Metagross-Mega Iron Head vs. 32 HP / 32 Def Farigiraf: 105-124 (46.2 - 54.6%) -- 58.2% chance to 2HKOAgain, Tink is a support mon with an every other turn nuke, not a main attacker. It can cuck Giraffe with Mold Breaker Fake Out, Encore slower threats, ward away Fairy threats for your other mons, etc. >>59425231>in smogon, gen 9 OU i am 1.8eloRetard. Sure you don't fucking use speed control in doubles.
What mon do I put over this with?
>>59425242can you rephrase your question
>>59425235>Sure you don't fucking use speed control in doubles.i don’t, yet i push your shit in.like i said before, given the amount of pokemons speedcontrol isn’t mandatory to succeed, nor paradoxmons nor legendaries for that matter.but alas, i am sure you are a metafag and no way on earth will this go through your mind.i run weezing + slaking, shuts down ANY sort of setup, tailwind or otherwise and no you cant fakeout slaking because i just tera ghost and nuke w/e u are planning to do. just recently got to 1831 elo, looking good eh?oh almost forgot, kys.
>>59425242maushold
>>59424837how's that garganacle/salazzle team working out for you?
is aurora veil kind of a meme that's not worth building around at all or am i just stupid
>>59425279you can just slot a-ninetails to play anti weather and sometimes click veil.m-froslass itself is not the buildaround, its spamming blizzard is what people are doing. otherwise its just froslass + 5 good mons
>>59425285i guess the trap i'm falling into is snow makes me want to add other blizzard spammers to the team to take advantage of it - but they're mostly frail attackers that just die even with veil up
Need a blaze chicken to rock slide zard and stuff thanks
love how any braindead fucking retard can win with basccool mon
>>59425260
>>59424978I've managed without Tailwind, but my Sinistcha has Trick Room. I rarely use it, tho.
>>59425217GO has a lot of underlevelled fully evolved Pokemon.
>>59425403this is the way
Glad I got primarinas useless ahh off my team, bitch should beat incineroar but just gets throat chopped and can't use Hyper Voice, azumarils way more fun just belly drumming and actually going first
>>59425382Only strategy involved is chip the opponents dark and normal type with other stuff or basc itself with water type Gigaton Hammer with way less drawback and coming off an actual attack stat
>pay Intimidate/Fake Out users WHAT THEY'RE WORTH
I want to be able to Fake Out literally my mom's giraffe please
>my 10 win streak endedFair play, a least it got me all the way up to Ultra Ball
Have a Glaceon in trial recruitment, could be decent with chilly reception slowking on a TR team
>>59425406Weird.Even so, why ask for that specifically?Is there some kind of competitive advantage to running a <lvl 10 Shedinja?
>>59425458Freeze Dry+Weather Ball Glaceon and Prankster weather control Meowstic worked great for me last season.
>>59424903>loses to this
>primarina tanked my rank to 1520>bring azumaril back in>up to 1688
>Pokemon Wanted>Floette>Pokemon Wanted>Floette>Pokemon Wanted>Floette>Pokemon Wanted>FloetteAnd you wonder why begfags exist
I guess I will tryhard with metaslop to get the VP bonuses from winning with them so i can buy more fun strategies
Making ai slop smut gens of every cute girl avatar I beat the fuck out of or get beaten by
>>59425555>anon takes the mark of the goy
>>59425606Post some
>>59425552seriously.floette is just the defacto currency here. I just wanna see if i can find buneary in a nice ball, but everyone is asking for floettes.Shit like this is why i dont feel bad for sniping postings using normal floette
>>59425615https://litter.catbox.moe/qgr0srob9esns3n3.pnghttps://litter.catbox.moe/o49seeitpe5f6a1q.pnghttps://litter.catbox.moe/bfmivmnqd3aza7y3.png
>>59425552i don't understand why the begfags don't just trade regular floette to a legendary and then back to an eternal floette.you can use pogo if you're f2p
>>59424475sent :)>>59425330sent :)>>59425452sent :)
>fuck up two of my opponents' pokemon>he sends out Blaziken>I automatically lose even though I have all three pokemon remaining (two of which are at full HP) because the one currently on the field can't outspeed him and my other ones won't be able to either once he gets a Speed Boost off>M-Blaziken deletes everything with Close Combat and Flare BlitzGenuinely what do you do? Do I need to keep a water type with Aqua Jet on my team at all times just in case I get an opponent who is carrying Blaziken? Would Aqua Jet even OHKO him?
>>59425643if you don't run speed control then yeah you need to pack either priority or something that can tank that hit so it can hit backdepending on who's using it, aqua jet probably won't OHKO initially, but it could after several close combats
>>59425647>but it could after several close combatsAt which point my other two pokemon will have been one-shot.I guess I better hope the one packing Aqua Jet can win the 1v2.
>Trick Room destroys my metaslop team>My SOVL team destroys Trick Room teams but struggles vs zardslop
>>59425654It can't one-shot two pokemon at the same time.
I had to sell my soul and use the actually good starters, bleh. I'm in particular pissed off that I had to swap out my Unovan Samurott for Greninja at the end, with the latter never once actually hitting the field, meaning I don't even get the bragging rights of getting Samu to M4.
>>59425660I'm in Singles.
>i'm in singles
Got the win 50 battles using charizard achievement yay
>>59425640Thanks a lot anon
>>59425476It's probably a specific request to someone so they know who to trade
>see that my opponent has a farigiraf>"ok another game where i can't fake out">lead with vileplume + torkoal instead>opponent opens with mega mawile and farigiraf>click sleep powder on the giraffe to maybe stop him from setting trick room>half second delay>"fucking great my wide lens sleep powder misse-">Farigiraf took no damage because of Sap Sipper!>what.webm>Farigiraf's Sap Sipper raised its Attack!>Farigiraf kills my Vileplume with Twin Beampokeball rank is no joke man
>>59425662Well there's your problem.
>>59425707He probably just forgot to change the Farigiraf they got from the ranch
>>59425701There were like 5 of those listings.All asking for a level 1 Shedinja in exchange for a higher-level (15-40) Shedinja.
>>59425640My saviour
I want 6v6 because I've had so many matches get fucked up because I predicted my opponent's pokemon choices incorrectly so I end up with shit matchups.
>>59425732that's a skill issue desu
>>59425732sorry it's a hecking spectator sport and the adhd zoomers can only watch 5 turns before getting bored i assume you mean doubles because unregulated 6v6 singles actually would be intolerable cancer
>>59425744What would make 6v6 singles worse than 6v6 doubles?
>>59425732BSS is just choosing your safest lead or predicting the opponent's lead, a 2nd pokemon that can switch in defensively for your lead, then a 3rd pokemon for sweeping.
I had no intention of playing this season and just sat down, got to masterball anyway.I don't like this bare bones game and yet I come back to it because I enjoy battles.
Always more satisfying to win with overlooked mons than metaslop
>>59425779>your safest lead>defensive switch-in>sweepingAll of that depends on which three pokemon the opponent brings, though.Not to mention that which three pokemon your opponent brings also depends on him making the same predictions about you, so now you have to predict his predictions.
>>59425779DSP had an easier time in BSS than in the baseline games
>>59425776stall is way more viable in singles than doubles, even in smogon where the most degen stuff like evasion stacking and baton pass are banned, you can still get games that last literal hundreds of turnsthat kind of playstyle doesn't work as well in doubles since a passive wall can just be ignored while you double up on their teammate instead
>>59425787I recall power of alchemy -> moody Muk being a son of a bitch.
>>59425789I'm using Moody Scovillain and it keeps fucking me over.
>not even a little cutscene for making MasterballThey truly aren't trying.
if you use whimsi you are beyond saving. just a pure, unrelenting faggot who is a slave to the "meta" and cannot use their own brain.
>>59425805unfortunately whims is one of those cases where there legitimately is nothing else that can compete for the same role, even as niche alternativenone of the other prankster tailwind setters (murkrow, tornadus, volbeat/illumise) are currently in the game
>>59425805seethe
>>59425810What if you play without Prankster Tailwind?
>>59425782The weaker / more overlooked the Pokemon, the greater the middle finger.
>>59425829I use Gale Wings Tailwind
>>59425829then you play with trick roomor you get stuck in ultra ballthem's the breaks
What do you do against Hippowdon with Yawn in Singles?Either you swap out to avoid the sleep and he heals, or you kill him, fall asleep, and his Mimikyu gets at least 2 free turns of Swords Dance even if you swap immediately.
>>59425859i tenshot them with maushold
>>59425862I've tried that.He's too bulky, he tanks it easily. Even with Maushold at max attack and all 10 shots landing.
I had the most confusing fight ever.>Jolteon outsped literally everyone and spams discharge>okay fine its scarf>somehow mega sceptile also outsped it, as well as my scarf tsareena>??????>turns out it wasnt scarf jolteon at all, since it used alluring voice afterwards>??????????????????I swear ive played comp in so many years and that was the most confusing match ive ever had
>>59425859lead with your biggest hitter like floette/basculegion/swampert or basically any special attacker with coverage who ohko or lum berry setup sweeper that wins the whole game off the free setup turn
>all 6 of the opponent's pokemon are ones that will curb stomp your whole team if you don't bring their specific counters
>game just locks me out of choosing ANY move nowamazing, just bloody amazing
Ok dragalgae is actually good and cool. I am still not convinced about my rain match up but desu swampert + pelipper is a strong lead in general.
They should add a 1% miss chance to every move in the game.
>>59425254>i run weezing + slakingbased
Finally clawed my way into MB Singles with this team. Ended up at 1520, quite a bit lower than when I got there last season. I wonder what it would've been if I'd manage to get that last win on that 12-win streak days ago.Attract Liepard unfortunately didn't make the cut. It's a fun set, and while it's true that I can tell whether to bring it or not during the pre-battle, the space it takes up does have a cost and there weren't very many battles where it was worth bringing.I'm also a little disappointed in Espathra. I was expecting it to be like a special-attacking version of Blaziken, but it doesn't have any high-BP STAB moves except ones that require setup, but it's also not bulky enough for setup, so it doesn't really have the sweeping capability I was picturing.I think Maushold and Scovillain pulled most of the weight.
why is there no starter pack on mobile? are they really so greedy that they want you to only buy the dogshit pass?
>>59426031The battle pass doesn't even give you extra box slots. If you want that, you have to buy the $50/year membership for 1000 box slots.
>>59425879Jolteon is tied second for fastest non-mega Pokemon available, so it's not surprising.
why does every move with less than 100 accuracy feel like 50%? swear to god it's like I gotta clench my butthole every time I choose an attack
>>59426031I bought it the other day. I noticed that it's "DLC" on Switch maybe that has something to do with it.
>>59426031just get anyone to use their switch to log in to your account so you can finish the transaction, theres no 1 switch 1 account policy.
>>59425859If I suspect they'll lead with Hippowdon I use Espathra (speed boost) as a lead and hit with lumina crash then baton pass the following turn into my moody Scovillain. Since yawn isn't passed by baton pass I get a free speed boost and a random stat drop and stat increase from Moody. Depending on the opponent I either get a free KO or a forced switch to try to save Hippowdon.
I feel like I'm getting worse at the game.It's getting harder to climb with each season
>>59425040> Fanfict meta player thinks xes hot shit in the official formatHAHAHAHA HOLY SHIT WHAT A FUCKING RETARD LMAOOO
Now im forcing myself to make my own team instead of just copypasting, I now see the problems people have in teambuilding but just cant articulate other than 'game bad' , 'fuck giraf'>your dedicated leads are not linearfine you have a gameplan against raptor teams/charY teams. What happens if they opponent doesnt bring them at all? what if they lead something to catch your answers like chomp against charY answers, or they lead incin next to whimsicott instead to soften you up before raptor kills you. On good teams, you can handle their reactions just fine, since presumably they doing that shit just means they lose faster. If you arent certain of your own matchups, then you will feel lost when you lose, how you had zero control against the opponent other than losing.>pinpointing your team's weaknesses and strengths + answers to common threatsmy dumb team has one answer to giraf, double down on it. but if the opponent does anything else other that click trick room, I lose. is this a problem with the team composition or its just a skill issue? when you won just now, did you outplay the opponent, or its just a tough matchup for them?Without external help, no wonder people feel so helpless and start pointing blame left right and center.Theyll start blaming their mons for being useless instead of actually putting it where it positions where it can thrive, etc. Shit like this is why piloting is easier than making, since you dont know what is good unless someone spoonfeeds you or you do extensive testing.
So is the meta still the same? I don't really want to climb if it's the same zardslop and staraptorslop I've been seeing since last month.
armor tail is such a retarded ability
>have idea for Strength Sap user + Contrary user with high attack to heal the former while boosting the latter>also Psycho Boost to let the Strength Sap user copy all the buffs>the only pokemon in the game right now who gets Strength Sap and Psycho Boost is Sinistcha>the only Contrary user with a decent attack stat is M-Staraptor>Malamar doesn't even get Close Combat so he can't boost his Special DefenseI'm not a meta abuser... I swear...
>>59424977NTA but I sure have, what a fucking monster. Deletes that fucking zero bulk lizard I hate through sun. You can also invest a tiny bit into sdef to survive bulky bridge +1 electro shot and cheese them to hell with Mirror Coat because all bridge users deserve the rope
Why the fuck did the devs put the oran berry in the game before so many other berries?Who is running oran berry?
>>59426167Yeah, bro, you were really gonna use Spinda and Lurantis for this if they were in the game. Sure.
>>59426151uh oh melty
>>59426210yes i would
Minimize deez nuts ha gottimKill yourself
>>59426156>>59426391>>59425942>>59425382You don't have to inform us how you lost every time.
>>59426395
6700~ player tournament going on right now. https://www.youtube.com/live/FGdQqQSqXdE
>>59425879It's base 130 dude
I don't know why people run nasty plot on Gholdengo in doubles. In my experience you pretty much never get a chance to use it. Gholdengo isn't fast or tanky enough and the ability rarely comes in handy. That's my general experience with trying to use Gholdengo too. I barely got a chance to pick it because it's too frail and slow and weak to common threats.
>>59425879If my recollection is correct, you have to run Tsareena jolly with 30+ speed to get the scarf to outspeed Aero by a 1 or 2 points, which would also outspeed Jolteon.Sceptile is simply one of the fastest megas in the game, so not sure what you expected.You should probably do some calcs next time to fix that problem. Surprise KOing Aero before they set tailwind is one of scarfed Tsareena's few virtues.
>>59426454Nasty plot was the sauce in reg H, it's still a very good set since all it takes is a misplay or mislead from the opponent to get it set up.
Absolute worst weekend to run a tournament, Skrawl
>dive, minimize, toxic, rest qwilfish
>>59426463yeah crazy how they never take things like the world cup into accountthey should've known that england is playing today...
>>59426466the world cup of pokemon go maybe
>>59426466>caring about the world cupdo normies really?
>>59426473Unfortunately. They have to hope their own team of africans is able to win kick the ball against the other team of africans.
New to Chumpions, are the beginning tutorials worth doing?Seem like a lot of free stuff but it sounds pretty boring & arduous to do
>>59426480Doesn't take very long, i'd say worth it
>>59426480just mash a for free stuff
>>59426465why is the qwilfish/overkwil line used to often in these stall cheese strats anyway? they're not even particularly bulky
>>59426480yes, doing all the free shit gets you lots of tickets to do spins withpic related is what I ended up with from just doing those things before my first actual battle outside of the tutorial
>>59426508>Intimidate>Perfect accuracy Toxic>Dump all EVs into HP/Defs>The player using that strat spends an entire week guzzling cum every time the strat is usedI have no idea how these guys do it, nobody enjoys semen THAT much
Just went up against one of the most cracked out gimmick teams I've ever faced. From what I can tell, it wasOverquil@leftoversMinimize ProtectBarb barragestockpileMeowstic(male)sunny dayYAWNskill swap???(probably psych up I already forgot)KlefkiSubstitutepsych updraining kisscalm mindDelphox(mega)psych up?????????The entire battle and having to learn the matchup as each turn passed was absolutely miserable. I'm just happy to have gotten to a draw finish because I refuse to lose to whatever the fuck that was.
>>59426612ive been running belly drum body slam snorlax in the back just for overqwil minimize bullshit god what a gay ""strategy""
Anyone else in the Grand Champions Festival Encore?
>>59426612https://youtu.be/7_y5W4E0iB8https://www.patreon.com/joeux9/posts/free-team-of-162713455It's this team.
>been out of the game since USUM>try champ>it's funAnd now here I am, getting ready for a mass transfer to Home and reviewing every game I own for pokemon that are rare or have titles. I think the best find was my X still had the summer14 Heracross since it's one of the few events that Japan never got and should be the only way for it to be in a Cherish Ball.
>>59426635cant see the patreon shit
>>59426635im convinced all these fags are just straight up cheating. Because they can also do damage through protect and outspeed pokemon they are slower than without any priority moves.
>>59426687
Fudge I just realized that camerupt doesn't get sheer force, only mega camerupt does. I wanted to replace Torkoal with it but now it seems like a waste
>>59426626Yes how is it taking so fucking long, 4 rounds in 5 hours ffs
>>59426817Big tournaments always start that way. In a pool of 5000 people there will always be the one guy playing stall while also getting a disconnect and having to call over a judge. The last few rounds should go faster.
>>59426651Very cool anon.Hope you enjoy your time. The meta is Zard + his revolving cast of friends.
>>59426750wait mega sableye is in the game??
Is there anything left to do in game after reaching master rank in double battles?
>>59426959Master rank in single battles.
>>59426958quite annoying in singles>>59426959no, unless you have the pokayman and wanna try different strategies.
>>59426959Reach champion rank. Then reach top 1 on the ladder and be the very best (of the current season).
>>59426958I think they added the stone in M-B.
>>59424124There's a lot of those on the ladder so I think you're just mad one killed you.
>>59426806Camerupt also isn't as slow as Torkoal, but Mega Camerupt speed ties.
>>59426959Getting to 100 wins with your favorite pokemon so you can equip gold badges of them.
>possibly the most hostile meta to incineroar yet>still #1 in tournamentbut it refused to die
>>59427115This meta is nothing for Incineroar. Remember, it was the number one used Pokemon when Primal Kyogre and Primal Groudon were legal. It was the number one when Dynamax Kyogre, Dynamax Groudon, and Zacian were legal. When the top Pokemon is a fire special attacker that only carries fire and grass moves most of the time? Child's play.
You have less than a week to have some balls and have some fun in the Monotype Tournament. If you bitch about why there is anything to do besides ladder or why there are special competitions in the game, you have NO EXCUSE not to join.>>59377245
>>59426958Yes but you never see it because it loses prankster
I went 6-2 in the Grand Champions Festival Encore.
>>59427115Somehow its usage is increased because it's incredibly good against current common leads
>>59427422nicely done anon
>>59427422proof?that's what i thought
>>59427223I'd love to but I'm already in so many discords that I can't join anymore, therefore I cannot join the tournament.
>>59427422With what team?It doesn't count if it was meta slop.
>>59427422Anon...IS STRONG!
>>59427656>I can't join anymoreIsn't the server limit in the hundreds?
>>59427223This lost me at "something something discord"
so is every strategy now some cringe youtuber cheese
>>59427701Pokemon has almost always been cheese
>>59427668it's exactly 100. 200 if you've got nitro.
Everyone is prepared for big bundle of six, i do better with my fun team than OP bs, weak to poison types unfortunately but can't cover them all and I handle the common sneasler better than the fairly rare glimmora, venasaur is annoying though but can't break umbreon
Assault Vest...Doko...
>>59427748Stupid metallic Acheludon hands wrote this
>>59427115why wouldnt it be? its been it much higher power level formats and been top.
>>59427770More like anything that wants to actually deal with bridgetard dragon & Zard-Y
>>59427775thought no goggles, no vest, no knock off, and no u-turn might be a bigger deal (it wasn't)
>>59427779lmao who cares. intimidate, fake out, parting shot
>>59427664Metagross/Swampert/Peli/Arch/Grim/Sini so yes, meta slop.
Choice Scarf Jolly Basculegion is way overkill for tailwind teams, nerf this bs already
Is Mega Greninja actually any good or is it just people that really like it hard coping about it?
>>59426621seriously, you've got to be a fucking sicko if you find that playstyle fun.>>59426750I fucking knew something was running stored power, I just couldn't pin down who it was and it was fucking with my mind for the whole game.
>>59427812It has a flexible moveset and can check fish and I want to test it thanks in advance to any kind anons
>>59426621I used to use lagging tail copycat dig grafaiai in showdown and I felt convicted by the Holy Spirit
feelin like trying a mono ghost team just for shits and giggles without basculegion or sinistcha
>>59426750The move Taunt exists for this, if you don't have that move or one of the moves that destroy evasion like >>59426621 you deserve to lose to that sociopathic crap
There's more honor in the minimize psych up stuff than there is in weakening the opposition so basculegion can clean
>aura spheres u :^)
>>59427847Problem is that carrying Taunt on non-Prankster mons makes your other matchups worse.Stuff Kingambit/Milotic lead, sometimes Gholdengo should have a very easy time into this, redirection mons also disrupt this. I don't think tournament-winning teams lose to this.
Working my way up Ultra ball 1 pretty quick, a lot of trick room teams about.
My umbreon is such a cunt, I love it making rainfags time out and shi, wasting screen and trick room turns by staying on the field being annoying af with its moveset
Been seeing a lot more fellow ceruledge enjoyers lately, must also hate the teapot
>>59427978Trick Room was how I made it to master ball last season at my first attempt at comp dubs, will always remember the GOAT Orthworm passing subs to hatterene for an easy trick room alongside araquanid for Wide Guard against zard and chomp when no one was running weather ball on zard Y
>>59427847I recreated the team and went 7-2-1 (W-L-D) with it in MB3 at the end of last season. In general the way you stop that team is by just going big aggro turn one, before the evasion and defense boosts are up. There's nothing the team can do against Helping Hand Farig + a strong spread attacker. Open team sheet too, would obviously shut this down. It's an assclown team; it's not meant to be good, it's just meant to make people mad.
>Triple axel with wide lens misses
>DerBeste is using the Zard/Aero teamIt's strange how we think of Big6 as the problem team, but this one arguably has better results. He's 7-1 today.
>modest orb/belt base starmie can OHKO charizard-y with power gem, but gets barely outsped>timid can outspeed, but barely doesn't OHKOextremely frustrating, so close to greatness but so far
https://play.limitlesstcg.com/tournament/grandchampionsfestivalencore/player/lexiconvgc/teamlistThis guy is 8-0 and has both Pelipper and Zard. You've got a Peli-Arch rain mode or Zard+Venu sun mode. Grimmsnarl and basc fill out that team.
>>59428095zard is ok if you know when the rain is coming since you have weather ball too. i've seen clips of people not megaing zard so they can ice weather ball a garchomp
Can you play staraptor under tr or is it some final gambit meme?
Will they ever add male trainer avatars that aren't twinks?Like your options are basically "girl without boobs or ass" or "girl with boobs and ass" so what kind of fag would pick the former?
>>59428106a lot of things are faster than it
>>59428132How many things are faster than a 100/110 speed mon? Even with no investment and negative nature, I don't see it
>>59428106it's always a final gambit meme when paired with giraffe
>>59427846this was going excellently until I ran into a kingambit and it just raped my entire team with sucker punch lol
>>59428095That team hard cucks rain so hard. If your opponent doesn't bring Pelipper then you just roll over it with sun. If it does, you bring your own arch and basc and let they do the rain for you. It's overwhelming.
>>59428149even with 9 points in speed, so a little over half, garchomp outspeeds. With 11, charizard outspeeds. That's all with both having neutral. The thing is, you as the bird user, get to decide when or if you set up trickroom. It could be a back up strat, something to make the opponent think you're going to gambit and mispick their lead. i think staraptor is kinda washed, but gameplans that put you in control with your opponent having to guess why you're doing something or what your plan is are great, especially in closed team sheet online.
>>59428168as a mono ghost enjoyer your best answer is annihilape who can live 2 sucker punches and heals back to full with drain punch, will o wisp also works
Is this one of you fags? I've seen some about Indians and Jews too.
>>59428191thats funny :D
>>59428191thanks bro!
>>59428168wtf sucker punch even kills defense form aegislash with full HP investment jesus christ
>>59428240nvm I forgot he swords danced firstbut still yikes
If you want easy shinies to GTS, Go is having their big shiny event
Do people typically spec their Garchomps for speed? I want to optimize my A-Nintales EVs so I can just outspeed them.
>>59428264Basically all chomps have 32 ev in speed and 60% is jolly because they want to win the speedtie against other garchomps.
>>59428218lmao based
>>59428218Now try to build a team around it in Champions
Sleep Powder is fucking bullshit.
>>59428354Palossand isn't even in Champions.
>>59428361>what is Taunt, for $200 Alex
>>59428374>just carry a Prankster Taunt user on every team at all timesFair and balanced meta.
>>59428379whomosicott and sinistcha caused that.hence why i run the jew (sableye)
Huh? Why can't you change your defeat pose now?
I started using Whimsicott
>>59428391you never could
Gib Assault Vest
>>59428413But I remember chosing the shrug out from 3 or 4 options, because it was the most nonplussed...
So I have a dragalgae//sinistcha/farigiraf/torkoal/kingambit/inci90% of my games I go with dragalgae, 9% with inci. I want to replace Kingambit, in part also to have a better matchup against sun, but I don't know with what. I was thinking garganacle since it's a good tr mon but idk, it's still niche
>>59428433>trick room team>weather problemsIsn't Drampa tailor-made for that? His speed is in the toilet and he has Cloud Nine.
>>59428442>DrampaDidn't really think about it. I don't have problems with rain teams, but I will check it out.
>>59428433garg will lose to solar beam, better off prankster weather move
>>59428440Do NOT give her to him
>>594284403edgy5me
Test
It would be cool if unlocking a trainer class title allowed you to use its face as an avatar.
>>59428530for me, its aroma lady on all four. if you catch my drift
>>59428537I am a sightseer man, myself.
>>59428530You will continue to get 1 outfit per season + some MAYBE some generic reskins of the basic shirt if they're generous.
>>59427991Can you teach me?
>Chandelure on Snow teamI think I might be cooking again
It's amazing how Go can crash the value of any Pokémon. No one wants Baxcalibur anymore and there's a billion shiny ones listed. They should do Basculegion and Sneasler next.
>>59428690>GoReally? Bax is in the ZA DLC so its value is down in the shitter anyway. The only thing keeping it from being as trivial as the other DLCmons is that it's locked behind special scans so you actually need to finish the DLC and are at the mercy of the retarded special scan RNG.
>>59428400Now I'm using Whimsicott, and started using Sableye. Heh. Not bad.
So ultra ball is the scrub filter? Im hard stuck. Win 1 lose 1 win 1 lose 1.Shits infuriating
>spic tourney going on>teams and plays feels like pokeball tier, at bestcool
>>59428721If you really hav a 50% win rate then you'll climb eventually, slowly but you will.
how do you deal with the Blastoise water spout spam + follow me maushold with fighting resist berry team (and sinistacha waiting in the back to rage powder even if you kill it)
>>59428729nooo you have to play the same 7 or 8 viable pokemonbe a meta slave like me!!!
>>59428713I don't know what community day is but I assume it's just a specific Pokémon is huge rate up for shiny. A shit ton of shiny Baxcalibur from Go showed up on the same day.
>>59428737spread moves, the lower blastoiee hp the lower its water spout dmg
>>59428721Just wait until you finally work your way up to the last slice of Ultra 1 that always matches you against a wannabe Wolfey running some complete gimmick shit that happens to hard counter you
>>59428802>wannabe Wolfeya cheater with a army of drones playtesting for him and defending his imagine online?crazy.
>>59428818>cheaterElaborate
>>59428861Watch Joon the King's doc on Verlisify.You'll get the picture pretty quickly. Spoiler:It's sour grapes and envy.
>add damage and coverage moves >lose to control teams>add disruption moves to counter control gimmicks>now can't do enough damage to beat "big fat tank" teams I can't take it anymore
>>59428865For me its the 'Saltine from Indiana' video.
milotic has had it too good for too longfatass snake refuses to die because all the good electric and grass types in the game are special attackers
My whole team is weak to fairy :( and I have no tailwind setter :(Anon....
I went 9-5 in the Grand Champions Festival Encore.
>>59429204Good job.
>>59429204Everything gets very difficult once you're playing amongst the best.Good job anon, what was the set that you felt the best against and what was your weakest set?
>>59428920>toxicgg
>>59429244This was my team:https://pokepast.es/5f9ba0bfef4c742fThe only matchup I really felt overwhelmed, like I could have played the set 10 times and lost ever game was against this sun/rain mix. He had Zard Y, Venu, Archaludon, Grimmsnarl, Swift Swim Basc, and Pelipper. If I didn't bring my rain, he's overwhelm me with sun. If I did then I feed his Arch for him. The only reason we even went to game three was me critting through his screens in game 2. Every other loss was me playing poorly or overthinking. One of my wins was my opponent throwing when he had an obvious win of just set up TR and instead he Tbolted my Pelipper, so even though he won weather control, my Arch and Metagross outsped his damaged Zard, Sylveon, and Farig and I just picked them off. Ironically I made a similar mistake day one, where I predicted a protect from Zard on the last turn of TR and set up TW, but he just attacked and took me out the last turn of TR.Best matchups, unfortunately, were against people with creative teams. Anyone trying to run non standard stuff either got burst down by Swampert, or couldn't break through Arch. There is a reason people run meta teams; they just have tools to do better.
>max spatk chandelure ready to sweep>shadow ball on armarouge>just barely lives>shadow ball on ceruledge>just barely lives>energy ball on qualquaval>just barely livesgame is taunting me
>>59429401Armarouge needs 32HP 3SpD minimum to possibly survive Shadow Ball, and 32HP 23SpD to guaranteed survive unless it's running a really weird set that's like +special defense nature. 32+ SpA Chandelure Shadow Ball vs. 32 HP / 23 SpD Armarouge: 158-188 (82.2 - 97.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
>>59429414maybe that guy was running a spdef set just to btfo my teami fuarking kneel
New bread>>59429489>>59429489>>59429489
>>59429318super original team man.holy shit, that’s some 400IQ picks!
