THE PERFECT STRATEGY EditionPokémon Champions is a free to play online battle simulator available on Switch and mobile. It features ranked, casual and private battles for both singles and doubles, and will be used for VGC tournaments in 2026.>NewsEnter HAJ1MAR1G1FT for a free 100 Quick Coupons and CHAMP10N for a free Machamp.>Resources and useful linksCommunity Tournaments usage data: https://pikalytics.com/Ladder usage data: https://pokechamdb.com/enNew Player Guide(NEW PEOPLE READ THIS):https://rentry.org/pcg-guide (now taking suggestions and feedback)Anon made guide for brand new players to make a viable team with the starting pokemon: https://teamsheet.gg/t/sample-beginner-reg-b-vl3698Quick FAQ>Do I need my own Pokémon to play?No, the game features a recruitment system, but transferring from Home is recommended to save time and resources.>What makes the game so much more accessible than before?All aspects of a Pokémon are customizable with VP, a currency earned simply by playing the game. IVs are also removed.Ask in the thread if you want any specific Pokémon, and someone will respond.>Is there single player content?No.>Do I need a Nintendo Online subscription?No.>What's the starter pack?US$6.99 one time purchase for 50 training tickets (fully train for free), 30 Teammate Tickets (recruit Pokemon without using VP), 50 extra box space and the LGPE trainer music. Only available on Switch for now.>Is anything locked behind a paywall?So far everything gameplay relevant is also purchasable with VP. Only E-Floette require ZA transfer.>/pcg/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread):https://pastebin.com/d2FJZdPh Previous: >>59432603
first for free mythicals
>>59437379Drag/fari/sinistcha/rotom heat/torkoal/kingambitMy main plan is to start drag-fari, protect the giraffe and click draco meteor on something. Then TR, mega and either protect/flip turn, and see from there.Main problem right now is that sun outplays me, since draco meteor, even at 32+ adaptability, doesn't ohko charizard, which means I need basically perfect predicts to win.Also low key I need to replace either torkoal or rotom heat, since they overlap.I was thinking about replacing torkoal with either alolan ninetales or vanilluxe, a sashed snow setter with aurora veil who also handles chomp and rain with freeze dry, and can hit both opponents with blizzard.Aurorus would be another option but I don't have it yet.
https://x.com/pokequiz_kyohei/status/2077709305604947999
https://youtu.be/_RrEsdiUxBk?si=OlgqTgKeoP8h8bXE
How much Special Attack is bulky Charizard running? I'd like my Maushold to survive one Weather Ball if possible
>>59437479Try Modest with anywhere from 7-11 points in SpAtk. Weatherball in the sun will still probably KO.You outspeed Zard though and threaten Pop Bomb KO.
>>59437435Have you considering Armarouge to help with sun? He's immune to fire, can set trick room and gets wide guard, thats who I'm using to deal with sunI also have a weird setup with Dragon Cheer Dragapult onto DragelgeAlso my entire team is weak to the gambino, basculegion as its kind of a meme team, but eh
top wishes for when they add new pokemon?my tops are nidoking, obstagoon and accelgor
Can't even defend MDB after this. Just awful. https://x.com/michaelderbeste/status/2077751961131069889
>>59437568I need to never see Obstagoon so my Calyrex can do literally anything ever
Switched to playing hard trick room and immediately went on a 9 game streak.
>>59437644I was using a tr team, I was on a like 4-5 game lost streak, I switched to a staraptor team and I lost twice more. I have to accept I really am not good at this game.
>still no nude modsWhat's the point
>>59437735why you trynna look at naked kids?
>>59437800do you know where we are?
>>59437735Dude, it's an always online game, that's how you get the big N attention.
Shit Game
>+4 dragon pulse from arch doesn’t ohko mega gyatadosI give up, I quit. >>59437923This
>>59437942>85bp neutral hit onto something with 130bp didn't OHKOyeah no shit
>>59437957I meant base 130 spdef it's ok I'm retarded too
>>59437960PLUS FOUR SPECIAL ATTACK. I BATON PASSED AT PLUS FOUR SPECIAL ATTACK. PLUS FOUR SHOULD OHKO LITERALLY ANYFUCK THIS NIGGER GAME
I want to use metagross what is a good metagross team?
>>59437965Trick room, zero speed investment brave nature
>>59437965havent used metagross in doubles myself, and he is quite questionable in singles.try checking>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1axlwmzPA49rYkqXh7zHvAtSP-TKbM0ijGYBPRflLSWw/edit?gid=1458357160#gid=1458357160maybe something like >https://pokepast.es/5957567b618d6dfdwould work
>>59437965Pic has worked for me with Zard Y as the secondary mega. About 50% usage for both Megas.
>>59437963should have used draco meteorif you're planning to use the move at +4 who cares about the drop anyway
>not a shiny>not something that's plane like or bomb like>doesn't work because he is no longer a buildingPretty low effort this one
>>59438038is it all just one guy, or you guys are posting this shit and screenshotting it
Almost to masterball again with my middle school themed team. Only attacks besides trick room for tailwind. What coverage am I lacking
>>59438057I cant tell if this is a singles team or not.you play 6 damage dealers and no protect, which suggest singles. But then you also play moves like dragon pulse, discharge and icy wind which suggests its not
It’s doubles
Your opponent leads Focus Sash Whimsicott with Life Orb Garchomp. Your move?
>>59437644What mons do you use on it? how do you deal with metafags who slot sinistcha/farigiraf on their team for imprison stuff? ive been practising soak araquanid + mega eel in casual but it's inconsistent af, I find the Frost Breath Mr Rime + Mega Crab thing fun and I just realised that Mr Rime can be a pretty deadly TR sweeper on its own with a Galar Slowking that knows Heal Pulse to restore Mr Rimes sash & Acid Spray in case mega crabominible goes down, Frost Breath is a great move how it ignores screens and Sp Def boosts, a bulk invested hatterene is great at opening doors with misty explosion next to gking who i made sure goes first under trick room with Acid Spray, but i usually chilly reception if the opposing leads aren't too threatening to hatterene being the one who sets Trick Room
>>59438043I wouldn't be able to view it from that screen if I was the one depositing these.
>>59438083>Azumarill used Play Roughworks about 50% of the time if the chomp player doesn't respect the belly drum bot who can dish good damage even without getting it off
>>59438083If I see whimsicott I lead Gardevoir and click trick room. It works like a startling amount of the time. It’s not a perfect team just wondering if any of my offensive moves should be switched like glaring coverage mistakes
Garchomp, gambit, whim and zard Y aren't the problem, the stupid last respects fish is
I'm here to apologize to the Great Nation of Israel for speaking positively about a certain shitmon.Please don't strike me down, Remphan.
>>59438088Is your wife HP invested or regular speed Modest just to counter Tailwind teams and TR teams?
>>59438109
>>59438083ice punch the garchomp
>>59438112Anon your Garchomp is missing 2 EVs
>>59438118Holy fuck haha where do I put them
>>59438083Megagross with its Ice Punch and Talonflame. Kill the Chomp if it doesn’t protect, set-up own Tailwind, then if Talonflame hasn’t taken damage Dual Wingbeat the Whimsi off the face of the earth.
trying to build belly drum azumarillso far got raichu y, garchomp and sinistchaany recs on the last 2 mons to complete the team?
>>59438126Quash + Screens sableye is great to help it get off BD and use Play Rough on water resists, Ceruledge also is decent against non rain teams who use sinistcha and as backup vs delphox teams in case azumaril goes down
>>59438126A fast psych up user possibly?
Need another sableye cause 4mss thanks
I'm really surprised at how rare Slowking in singles is. Its extremely versatile>scald burns>many fire moves>yawn>t-wave>screens>slack off>trick room setup>nasty plot if a madman>good bulk that can be mixed or full spdf>regeneratorbut more than anything else, THE reason to use it>signature move is the only negative priority switch-in, 100% safe>added oddity of sets snow, great Char-Y / Pelliper disruption>synergizes with Regen
>STILL no returning characters Boring
Anon... The fairies need to pay for their sins, please... I need this...
what do I take here
>>59438262Sinistcha, Grimm, Torkoal, Froslass are all good picks, depend on what you don't have
Is this a thing
>>59437707Just lost the daily game because I forgot that Kingambit has defiantI need to get out of this slump, I am stuck in UB2
It sucks I just lost a match to a reverse sweep from a choice scarved Ditto and lost a hefty amount of points dropping me from MB-2 to MB-3. Honestly, it had to be one of the most points lost from losing a single match and I was on a 10 win streaks prior. Went from a placement of ~8900 dropping back down to ~11100. Are losses normally that huge as you climb, or did losing to a much lower-ranked player just tank my score?
>>59438083Raichu fakeout Garchomp while Slowbro sets up Trickroom.
>>59438135tested a few games with it before getting kicked out because maintenanceits great when it works but theres a noticeable lack of speed control and its hard to bring azumarill vs encore usersquash sableye is nice though
Holy fuck I've been on a losing streak. Went from the Cusp of masterball to the bottom of Ultra Ball.
My team gets hard raped by just one Milotic
>>59438272Sleep powder venusaur zard y lead is more common
>>59438302can you even de-rank from masterball? I've been using all sorts of shit teams in there and I'm still in there
>>59435929>>59435967Alright, they're ready to go. For this guy and anyone else who wants one.I can set their nicknames before transferring them out of X, too, if desired.
just pulled gholdengo from gacha
>>59438361No you can't.
damn they're throwing legendaries in the wonder trade
>>59438440We just had a huge 2 day Go Mewtwo event. 20 is the default level for raid legendaries in go (goes to 25 if you have the right weather). Personally, I deleted something like 20 yesterday.
>>59438441Why are they always in a premier ball? People on Home seem to avoid premier balls like the plague because it's a sure sign they're from Go.
>>59438447Why would anyone avoid GO mons? That just means they're legit. Also raidmons are exclusively caught with Premier balls.The only reason i can think of is only poor IV mons get traded.
>>59438447With a few rare exceptions, raid pokemon are only available in premiere balls. You get a set number after a raid to catch the pokemon before it flees. Sometimes raid legendaries are available as rewards for other stuff, which lets you use poke/great/ultra, and very rarely, like once, they gave out beast balls to use instead of premiere balls. There's also a safari balls which will hopefully be transferable to Home when they come back in November.
>gyarados last vs my gambit>ok he's either gonna do dragon dance or just waterfall. Surely he wouldnt mega bec i might be running low kick right?>i go for defiant boosted kowtow cleave>he mega evolves and goes waterfall on me twiceShould have went for a low kick... fuck...
>>59438450They have a little G stamp on them in Switch Home, which looks ugly. They're also the only way to get some stuff, like roaming Gimmi and the only reasonable way to get a legendary with the Great or Teeny title, so it's a blemish I'm willing to overlook, but some hate it. Also it's really easy to get a lot of Go shinies so they're viewed as less valuable.
>>59438454The duality of Home traders. You ask this elsewhere and the Go sticker would have more value bec it is literally the best way to determine a non-genned mon.
Assault vest is gonna make Arch even more busted and annoying. Hope it never comes back...
>>59438388Im having fun with him in singles. Espathra baton pass to sashgo is fun when it works
>>59438459at least he won't have protectno body press either
>>59438450I just imagine they're seen as cheap. Go isn't seen as a real "mainline" title by most Pokémon fans so it probably extends to Pokémon from it too. Shinies and legendaries in Go at least from what I can tell are handed out like candy. A week or so ago there were thousands of shiny Baxcalibur from Go. No one traded shiny Baxcalibur unless it was in anything but a normal Pokeball, great or ultra. No one wants legendaries from Go and you can only get other Go legendaries with them. No one likes Pokémon from Bank either because most likely they were hacked in. Even though there are very obviously hacked in Pokémon from all Switch titles it takes more effort than a Bank transfer. Neither Go nor Bank helps you with game specific Pokedex progress either.
>>59438452I don't know what the game sells but I'm surprised they don't put Apricorn and other balls in some kind of premium shop or higher subscription tier. Sounds like easy money to milk from super autists. They get to have their balltism too.
>>59438455The evidence that people don't want Go Pokémon is Home itself and seeing what people are willing to trade for. Go shinies get left untraded while a main line shiny usually gets snatched up super fast or in due time if it's less popular. People will retrade Go Pokémon for the same Pokémon except not from Go. And people will sometimes try to hide the fact that a Pokémon is from Go by transferring it to a mainline game and disguising it as something that came from that game. I don't think Home traders care if a Pokémon is genned if it's in a good Pokeball color.
>>59437568I guess I like alola more than I thought because some of my favorites I’m excited to use again are Naganadel, Blacephalon, Bulu, Marshadow, Zeraora, Melmetal are all near the top of my list. Other than them, Ogerpon, Pecharunt, Ferrothorn, Gastrodon and eventually Jirachi
>>59438484Got this guy from a thread here in 2018
>>59437568favorites but unplayable in the current meta like magnezone and crobat.gastrodon, ludicolo, exeggutor
>>59438483I kept seeing shiny Go Inteleon too. I know it has ugly tranny colors but you could not get rid of these things fast enough.
>>59438492Sobble community day lol
>>59438473Im so glad i dont give a shit where it comes from as long as it's legal in Home and works in Champions
I found this Heracross team https://youtu.be/R3OLaNcV2l0?t=627 but I am lacking Samurott. Do I go with Kingambit? but it's another fire weak steel pokemon. Or just my own scarfed Basculegion and yolo it vs other Basculegions
>>59438497I imagine you're probably perfectly happy with using Pokémon in regular Pokeballs from the gacha too. That's basically what Go Pokémon are. I'm okay with using gacha Pokémon but if I can get it with a title or not default ball I'll trash the one I originally had. With stuff from Home I don't pay for the subscription so I have very limited space and only go for shinies with good Pokeballs.
>>59438473>No one likes Pokémon from Bank either most likely they were hacked innot even true. my shit gets traded within minutes.
>>59438503Yea i care very little for balls and titles. But if i get shiny i go with shiny whether its from gacha, go or home
>>59438499scarf hydreigon?
>>59437979On Garchomp, Adamant with 7 Atk/25 Spe gives you the same speed with 2 more attack for the same SP. In general, you want to use a boosting nature either on your highest stat or to increase something beyoud what you could with a neutral nature.
>>59438513ooh that's a good idea, I will give it a shot later
Is there something up with Clauncher in the GTS? No one seems to want Clawitzer, but I'm often noticing trade offers for Clauncher, and sometimes really strange ones.I just traded a Clauncher for a Groudon.
got a Ninetales with a cool title...but zard exists. is she even passable in doubles?
>>59438684support with venusaur or vileplume is still good and also it frees up your mega slot
what benchmarks does the bulky zard spread livei just slammed 32/32 and have been doing fine but i'm guessing there's a reason people are running bulk
>>59438675Version exclusive. DLC exclusive in Gen 8. Probably want it from a specific game for Pokedex. Depending on if you actually sent it from right game you might have just stole his Pokémon.
>>59438733>Probably want it from a specific game for PokedexWhy does the origin game matter for pokedex filling?
>>59438735Home rewards you with the only legitimate way of obtaining certain shiny mythical Pokémon for completing game specific Pokedexes.
>>59438742Interesting.Well, I hope Pokemon X is what he was going for.
>>59438746Obviously not. You don't get rewarded for Bank which is why it's less valuable. Not that it matters since I assume you stole a Go legendary and he can get another one easy.
>>59438754>You don't get rewarded for BankAh, so similarly the Sinnoh pokedex only counts pokemon from BDSP, and so on?I've never been to that section of Home. I see now that I don't even have Clauncher in the Lumiose pokedex myself.>I assume you stole a Go legendarySeems to have been Z-A, actually.
>>59438765What's the origin mark? The game it shows when trading is useless because it just shows the last game it was in.
>>59438769Mega stone origin mark, and the description says "met in the Kalos region" rather than "met in Pokemon GO" like ones with the GO mark have.
>installed home last night>transferred weedles from go, stuck them in wonder box>got a shiny excadrill>stuck that on GTS>instantly got eternal floette for itits that shrimple folks
>>59438773If it isn't obviously generated congrats on your plunder. Maybe when Champions adds in restricted legendaries and requires a Groudon from Z-A for the red orb you'll be ready.
When are we gonna get hogans to pull for?
>>59438361Yeah that's what I mean. I was one game away from getting Master ball and then just lost until I got booted back to Ultra ball rank.
>>59438802Now do it again until you get every shiny you could ever want
>mega audino simple beam, double screens, heal pulse>into clangorous soul kommo-oi kneel.sadly i got a lucky crit which just outright won me the game
>>59438803>requires a Groudon from Z-AWould Champions do that? It's been just fine with using Bank mons up to this point.
>>59438834I mean Floette is transfer only even though they eventually made the Kalos starter mega stones available in the shop. We don't know how they'll treat legendaries but I would understand if they require you to play the newest games to get them.
>>59438821Is Mega Audino actually good or is it entirely simple beam memes? It has the worst ability.
>>59438852asking if anything which isnt meta is good or not is a bit 'problematic' for a lack of better terms.But is it good at what it does? Then I guess yes. Its a good supportmon if you wanna spam simple beam. But for the most part you are better off using a mega which has more impact.Some mons which are absolutely dogshit at what they are supposed to do are like roserade which has 1 (uno) move to use technician in grassy glide
>>59438727okay I put the spread that lives garchomp rock slide on and immediately won a game because of it i'm a believer
>>59438852It's bulky and can heal. I think it can be a good support in the right circumstances.If you don't want to spend a mega on it, you could always use normal Audino.The only thing the mega evolution really does for it is more bulk and protecting it from Fighting types.
>>59438810ah I see that sucks. last season I pretty much ranked from UB to MB in around 7 matches but it was probably because they were the last days of the season and everyone good was already in master ball. this time I had to go full meta to get into my comfy masterball tier 4 where I can safely shitpost without worrying about elo
Encore + Disable needs to be banned
>>59438478They literally are too retarded to.
>>59438038well, hes right tho
>hmmm maybe I could use A-Raichu with Mega Raichu X to use his ability for once>you can't get two different forms in the same teamyeah it would be nice if if the dev team thought about what would happen if two different regional pokemons were together to avoid any broken combo ....except they obviosly didn't because they don't give a fuck about what broken combos you make, you have to with all the random bullshit, so why put this this dumb rule at all
>>59438120Sp Def, faggot
i love to be on my master ball promotion game and miss rock slide twice in a row and then get flinched by theirsthats just one of those things that puts a smile on my face
>>59439115iktf
>>59438894This but with stealth rock An entire type combo that gets BTFO by a move before they step into battle is complete bullshit and either it should be removed or we should have more rocks with different elements. I am legit exasperated of playing Zard with half health every game in singles because fuckers cant git gud
>>59439192>singlesOpinion discarded
>>59439034pincurchin soon
>mr mime can learn wide guard>mr rime cant
>>59439252Dance away the pain
I am at my fucking wits end with Ultra Ball this season. Made it to Master rank 3 times so far.This team was doing well last season and through yesterday, now since yesterday on a massive losing streak in Ultra Ball.Did something change in the meta that quickly? Just getting complete horseshit matches that I’m not even sure how to improve from since I was doing fine last season.
>>59438188sent
>so many anons stuck in ultradamn you niggas SUCK
>>59439302No place to actually talk about Pokémon Champions, then you have worthless fuckers like these.
>>59439302>>59439305Don't be mean.
>sturdy archaludon>safeguard whimsicottwhat is this man doing
>>59439286>ask for advice>none ever givenWhat exactly is this thread for
I hate Charizard so fucking much
>>59439329I mean, you didn't list any of their moves which is the important part, nor give any information as to what you're struggling with beyond the ladder being a bitch. On it's face with a comp like that, it probably is just a skill issue and you need to make better reads against your opponents.
>>594392861. you want Jolly LO Chomp.2. Keep Scarf Basc3. Replace Weavile with Gambit.4. Replace Raichu with Sylveon5. Zard needs bulk, not speed that's why you have Whims.
>>59439331lollmoa
Do Farigs run max Def EVs *with* Bold or is Bold for mixed sets
>>59439333Here are moves. Open to swap mons around
>>59439351Why Throat Chop over Knock Off? Are you that afraid of Sylveon? No Solar Beam on Zard is also weird since it's biggest boon is fucking over other weather.
>>59439351Solar Beam on Zard over D pulse, the only negotiable move on Zard is Weatherball or Overheat. I like Sunny Day Whims, people play around it as if it's encore. It basically autowins the rain matchup unless you're up against Sableye>>59439364Stops Sylveon's Hyper Voice, I kind of get it. Rather just have Sylveon to threaten things Zard doesn't like though.
>>59439351Oh, it's you
>>59439404Have we battled?
This season is completely fucked in Ultra Ball, and of course GameFuck can’t be competent enough to make in game resources that actually matter. Fucking infuriating.
>>59439501I’m hardstuck ultraball and it’s making me suicidal
At the BARE FUCKING MINIMUM, the mega stones should include in their description “gives x Pokémon y ability”.How the fuck is that so hard for those brain dead losers to code in? Do they not have one intern? I hate that any meaningful information is on ad infested 3rd party slop sites.Also some moves are completely over saturated. Why does Blaziken need Rock Slide? Why does a fighting water bull have a fucking electric move?
>>59439334Thank you, did not help though. Not sure what this meta is
>>59439523Competitive Pokemon operates on the assumption you are using external resources for information. It's nice they finally give us exact percentages for attack effects but no ingame resource has ever given us the raw base stats ever
>>59439541It’s lazy and there’s no excuse for the mega stones to not at the very least have the information of the ability change.
Won my first game in 2 days, like 10 losses,and only because oppo forgot to mrga evolve meganium. I don't think I will win worlds this year.
>>59439561whats your team
ya that guy from Philly still around?ill be in town a few more weeks after all, work and all that.really eager for a meetup man, let me know ill keep checking the thread
Fuck this game. Piece of shit.
Anons, please just slap taunt on something. I'm begging you
>>59439687My honest response:
>>59439687taunt is in a weird spot since most people use trickster mons for their setups, and the only way to successfully taunt them out of their initial setup is with an even faster prankster taunt userso sure it can prevent encore+disable but it's such an opportunity cost to use up a move slot on it, especially on utility mons that have lots of other really valuable stuff competing for that slot
Daniel: Fire, Water, Grass coreCooler Daniel: Dragon, Fairy, Steel core
>>59439687Why bother?T1 the dark type prankster gets to do what it wants anyway and Whims has a 50/50 on winning the speed tie.Taunt isn't good in this meta.
I wonder if mega tatsugiri will be any good. I just got the orange one (the tastiest looking one) from wonder trade
Any tips to improve my sand team? I was thinking about swapping staraptor for another mega but i couldnt think of any that would fit. Trevenant is also kind of gimmicky, i feel like i need a better support over him.
>>59439786it's 1000% going to be a big part of dozo teams in the future since tatsugiri isn't doing much else with the item slot and going mega gives it something to do once their castle goes down
>>59439786>>59439864that being said most people tend to use the red one in vgc because dondozo gets defense boosts if it uses order up while the red one is in its mouth, though theoretically that won't mean much for mega tatsugiri in isolation
>>59439872Wouldnt orange be better for attack? People will just run grass knot and/or haze
>missed 4 of my last 5 play roughs, on 7 game win streak>actually lost last game because of it, and just being matched against a complete counter teamvery cool to see force 50 winrate in real time
>>59439880you already get +2 to everything when commander activates and stacking defense to boost body press and your best defensive stat is better than boosting wave crash or earthquake, which are already plenty strong enough at +2you can make any tatsugiri work with dondozo so long as it's not the yellow one that boosts speed, that shit is never going to make a difference for the big guyi'm just saying most sv vgc dozo strategies used the red one>hazewould be good against dondozo no matter which guy he's chewing on
I'm playing hard tr, and I lead farig + normal khang, pretty much every game. Only exception is when I open vileplume + torkoal against another TR team. What is a good alternative to have in the back instead of Khang against farig? Wasting a turn on fake out to set up last resort is really bad, and it doesn't hit anything especially well on TR teams.
What the fuck is this supposed to mean, anyway? It looks like the garbled text that AI generated photos used to have
>sleep powder kingambit>LUM BERRYI swear to god this game cheats, who the fuck runs this man. Less than ZERO POINT FIVE percent of people run this. It was masterball promo game too.
>>59439714>>59439781I’ll live and die on the hill that Talonflame is the best option for Taunt and Tailwind shenanigans. I think I’ve had three or four games where Taunting the Prankster mon on the first turn wasn’t the correct decision but it has definitely helped more than it has hurt. They only ever seem to run one attacking move on them so they’re usually getting switched out on the following turn which then allows for Talonflame to start doing its own bs. The only time I’ll go for Dual Wingbeat right out of the gate is if I see an opposing Whimsi given Talonflame outspeeds Whimsi and Gale Wings giving it that +1 priority to kill it. Talonflame has also worked wonders against hard TR teams because, outside Oranguru, they will never usually hold Mental Herbs.
>>59439897>he can't read Pokemonji
>>59439818You could run Incin instead of Staraptor for its support utility and it'd especially help Ttar setup DD. But if you really want a mega, I think you could use a special attacker to avoid intimidates, like Mega Floette or maybe even Mega Gengar so your opponent can't switch out their weather setter.You can try replacing Trevenant with sitrus berry Tsareena, which can support with Queenly Majesty, helping hand, and still help you deal with water types.
>>59439898that guy probably faced one too many venusaurs and snapped
>>59439901it and below it chlorophyll whimsicott <- you are not running this and no one else ever will
Fought someone using a gholdengo holding leftovers and it used surf in the sun that they just set up. My pokemon weren't even weak to water
>>59439898its for burn lol
>>59439941thats a bot
>>59439951Even though I was on a winning streak?
>>59439943That has nothing to do with what I said, is less likely to happen, and is wildly less useful than blackglasses or chopple.
Saw something cool with the trick or treat move and SD gambit and want to try it thanks
>>59439959
>>59439959was it the curse snorlax killing gourgeist?
>>59439901ok but what if the trick room setter is a magic bounce hatterene?
>>59440003you double up EASY kill her
>>59440003then we clicking parting shot
>prankster quash would be extremely useful against sucker punch>but the vast majority of sucker punch threats are dark types well that sucks
>>59440007yeah, thats fair.>>59440009i did not know talonflame gets parting shot.
>>59440058(:<
>fake out>taunt>parting shot>slow enough to do stuff in trick room>dark stab to deal solid damage to farigaraf>flare blitz to deal solid damage over allJust admit it, the cat is up to bat
>>59439957I think they're trying to hide how low the player count has gotten by throwing in more bots.
I trick choice scarf and they still get to use the new move they clicked????? Since WHEN?????????? That defeats the whole point of the punish. Why is pokemon so shit
>>59440118how did they even click a new move while they still had the scarf? doesn't the game say "pokemon can only select X due to choice scarf" or something like that?
>>59440128My rotom wash vs enemy rotom heat. I use trick, they use reflect. Next turn they use volt switch. It should be stuck on reflect but fuck me I guess, whatever sells more funko pops
these niggas in ultra ball dont play like they have brains at all. just pressing shit
Mega Corviknight pls i need him
>>59440137are you sure your rotom didn't go after theirs?if you trick them the scarf before they use their move, they get locked, but not if they use it before they have the scarfchoice lock doesn't apply retroactively to anything that happened before it was applied
>>59440150Yea but I’m trying to make logical decisions and they win with pure retard strength. Not to mention the absolute nigger teams these people create that are serendipitously hard counters to everything I have. I’m losing my mind I want to break something
NOT TO MENTION almost every game comes down to a 50/50 decision of will they / wont they that I also serendipitously always manage to predict wrong
>>59440180i just had a nigger press protect as whimsicott into both my 40 speed pokemon. it what fucking world would he do this. like sure, dont tail wind because the trick room is probably coming up so at least attack or something.
>>59440156Best i can do is a yellow piss skarmory with bigger talons
>>59440180>>59440186Is this just a symptom of this 3v3 singles format? I used to play 6v6 and it never felt this illogical and unfair
>>59439898I suspect they have really smart bots in ultra that just happen to have the perfect counters. They may have AI that learns from Champion tier plays and the team sets y'all upload
Yea, mega gengar outspeeds mega delph, that makes sense.
>>59440241I mean, yes,
>>59440243The monster whose whole design is that it is stuck to the ground is faster than the monster flying on a rocket propelled broomstick?
>>59440241mega delph has higher base speed, check your nature/EVs
That was my first time facing a Overqwil Audino team and yeah it's pretty gay
>>59440247All 4 legs built to go FAST.
>>59440247No, but they're pretty close. Unless you're timid 29 speed, you'll speed tie with max speed timid gengar
>>5944025229 speed modest, no spdef. I lived on 3%, is that a roll to ohko? It shouldn’t even be close in speed tiers. Ridiculous design
Give mega meowstic a better ability.
>>59440262worst case for you, its a roll to ko but you'll ohko. not gonna check the stats page but I don't think many gengars are trying to outspeed your delphox with max attack and 0 bulk. i was under the impression most gengar are bulkmaxxing
>>59440192Would've nice if it's ability wasn't shit
>>59440384>practice room
>Official tourneys can now only be played on switch consoles, phone Champions is bannedWay to kill the momentum for the phone version
>>59440384Practicing his luck.He's getting the non-procs out of the way:
>>59440407There are apps basically cheating on phone. It's for the better.
>>59440407for what reasoning
>>59440414for >>59440412 reasons basically, the venues could supply burner phones but i guess that's too expensive
>>59440412it's just a damage calculator. nothing stops a switch player from using the same thing except that it would take like 20 extra seconds overall
>>59440416>venues could supply burner phones but i guess that's too expensivedont they supply gigantic tablets for pokemon go tournaments (yes they have tournaments).Oh wait i just remembered this dogshit app cant have more than one device attached to your account. It really just ILCA being retarded more than anything, since Niantic can do it just fine
>>59440418It's not the same and the first person to try using it in a tourney would fucking find out.
>>59440421>dont they supply gigantic tablets for pokemon go tournamentsThey do, I dunno what the deal is. Maybe nintendo wants to push the switch 2.
>>59440422I'm pretty sure fucking Wolfey did this in one of his videos
unironically the games should just start showing you how much damage your move is going to do on the UI so there's no more autism about whether using third party damage calculators is cheating or not
>>59440407>Hello? Ma I told you not to call me while I'm at my tournament!
>>59440424I've definitely seen him looking over at another screen and typing shit in a tournament
>>59438038it literally a steal beam
>lose to a meme eeveelution team because got burned by vaporeon scald right before the would be final strike
imagine just copying the exact meta team and playing it over and over when it's braindead auto pilot. it's pathetic. ranked is unplayable
>>59440716Number go up tho
>>59438038It's about sending a message.
GOD FORBID you don’t use a gen 9 Pokemon. Are you retarded? The power has been crept. You lose.
>load up>lose three games>leave
>>59440589Using damage calculators isn't against the rules in wifi tournaments.
>bright powder overquillKill yourself
So can people cheat on Mobile? Are there reasons not to play Mobile?
>>59441013Yes, people saying it's just a damage calculator don't understand that it works far better than a human's brain since it remembers calcs of damage taken and given to then predict ev spreads etc
>>59441017It's essentially a screen reader that does everything a showdown extension does + shows predicted sets, items, etc
Thinking of trying out Singles, is it worth it
>>59441017>>59441066Damn, is there any way to avoid playing against people using it? Presume that Switch has cross platform with Mobile
>>59441082>Singles, is it worth it
>>59437868The Epstein class needs to be purged
>>59437963Haha, stay mad retard
>>59441082>is it worth itWhat do you mean it is worth it do you think you will get permanent psychic damage for playing singles?the answer is yes btw
I just started, why do I only have 35 box space? How do I get more without shekeling out
>>59441191You can get a whopping 5 extra slots for reaching a new rank for the first time. If you want more your shekels are forfeit.
>>59441191>https://game8.co/games/Pokemon-Champions/archives/593902if you rank up in a season, you get more box spaces. Right now the max for free2plays are 50 spaces.You get more pseudo box spaces by linking Home.Anything above 50 requires shekels.>I just starteddont forget to follow the beginner sample team. Its just a good stopgap to use so that you dont get your teeth kicked in before you make an actual team you likehttps://teamsheet.gg/t/sample-beginner-reg-b-vl3698
>timid ArchaludonSeriously?
>>59441082Only for some weekly missions, I guess.
I've seen this OT except as the name of his junk Pokémon a lot but I don't know what WE means
>>59441368WhatEver?
>>59441377I assume it's supposed to be a Holocaust reference because 6 million Jews
>>59440886The ursalunas are still sleeping...
Yeah, the opponent was a shit eating FAGGOT
The "Infection" has "spread"...
>>59441530This "game" is a gu ritual
>mega baxcalibur shits on garchomp and zard y>mega salamence shits on garchomp and zard y>mega garchomp z shits on garchomp and zard yHmmmm
>ToxapexWhat were they THINKING
>>59437868Yeah. 4chan, we used to dox pedos for fun back in the day and ruin their lives if possible.
>>59441999We also used to have a /l/ board.>>59437735The playable character in Champions isn't even hot desu. Looks too old.
>>59441405Were Exterminated? i dont fuckin know
>>59438038Power herb electro shot can't melt steel beams. Sorry its just a fact.
Ugh just lost my first battle of 5Forgot to focus sash poltea
its extremely not fun to have such limited space and relying on a gacha to get pokes
>>59442102Your pokemon home pokemon?
Sadly it seems I have to swap out Scizor for Agislash on my team, M-Staraptor players are actually getting more competent and giving me trouble.
>>59441801Spoiler:Bax being in the game won't particularly matter.There's no single mon that can be added that solved this meta. Several mons could be added that at least add alternatives, terrain could help the centralization, but sometimes the rich just get richer.
>mega glimmora attacking my fire types with ground moves instead of rock movesPeople aren't this stupid right? This was surely a bot right?
>>59442271usual signs of a bot>team usually has gyarados, kingambit, or tyranitar>uses scary face at every available opportunity>uses retarded moves in general>game starts immediately after you select team, every turn starts immediately after you select your moves (the bot takes no time to think and select)
What are the strongest paradox pokemon aside from the lizards? Like which ones should I hold on to in Home if I come across them?
What would make for a good Electric Terrain/Rising Voltage Team? So far I thought of RaichuX, Jolteon, maybe Talonflame for Tailwind, an Ice-type for Garchomp. What else would I need?
>>59442306I'm just holding onto paradox Johto and Unova legends since even if they don't end up having any use I can easily trade them for anything.
>>59442306Delibird.
>>59442306All of them have seen usage, except maybe Sandy Shocks.
Incineroar is just a free belly drum for azumarill on non perish trap teams
>>59439302I-I'm new
Need another giraffe thankyou
I'm hardstuck in singles UB2. Wtf??? Dubs were so much easier this season
>>59442468Singles isn't hard at a base level. Really, all you need to is>An answer to Mimikyu>An answer to Scarf Chomp/Hydreigon>An answer to Focus Sash whateverJust gotta role compress what mons you like until you get an answer for that core and you should be good.
>>59442480I've made answers to those mons and i get unfavorable matchups 19 times out of 20
>>59442480AAAAA IS THAT.... A GHOST/FAIRY THAT CAN'T BE KILLED IN ONE HIT? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA MELMETAL SAAAAVE MEEEEEEEEE I'M DERAAAAAANKING MELMETAAAAAAAAALLL
>>59442484Just gotta keep at it anon, you'll get there. >>59442486High key the strongest mon in the format besides Garchomp.
>finally play the in game ladder this season (was doing Bo3s on Showdown until recently)>16 games to MB, 15 wins, one draw against Overqwil evasion faggotry, 0 lossesMaybe I just got lucky matchups.
>>59442494It's just crazy to me how simple the singles climb last season was. I had an infinitely harder time in dubs. This time it's the complete reverse. I think the mobile cheating crap has really made things worse especially given how singles is a toss up while dubs has more opportunity to fix bad leads or matchups so their autocalcs wont help as much
Zeraora when? I wanna know his ability already
Every time I faced someone that really tried to make Sceptile work it just doesn't. Lightning rod is just bad and useless on it.
>>59442613It will be good when we get a flying/water legendary, and Sceptile will emerge as its protector. I believe.
>>59442613If they aren't paired with Jolteon, they are doing something wrong.
>>59442613Mega Floette is the best mega/mon in the game right now so whenever he megas he just kills himself. Also all electric mons currently ingame are dogshit which isnt helping any.
>dark types are immune to prankster buffed movesWow thats great, now I-->except every prankster abuser is using 90% self targeted moves onlyDoes this ability just need gutting? Wheres the counter?
>>59442632they didnt think that far ahead. and by ahead i mean from the first second
>>59442635?It's a very good ability. Grimm not being able to be taunted or encored by whimsicott is amazing
>>59442613Pair it with someone with discharge, or Pelipper
>>59442632Sceptile just gets hard raped by every common threat and doesn't have a good enough move pool to deal with them. Garchomp who is usually scarfed or has tailwind support blows it down with a sneeze. Sceptile can't touch Charizard or Delphox. Sneasler kills it. Kingambit kills it. Floette kills it. Whimsicott kills it. Sylveon kills it. Staraptor kills it. I can go on.
I will never leave UB2
>>59442613It's not just Lightning Rod. Its damage output is also bad. A +1 non STAB Earth Power still isn't that threatening, and grass and dragon aren't really that useful as offensive types right now. It's still slower than Mega Aerodactyl, which is a benchmark people EV around, so all that extra speed doesn't really help you because you're still getting outsped by scarf Pokemon. It doesn't do enough damage, doesn't outspeed anything important, and what could be its one saving grace, protecting its team from electric is already arguably done better by Garchomp or Archaludon who love to switch into electric moves and have great utility as well.
>>59442715Just run a flowchart hard trick room team. Yes, it's not very good at high levels, but it's good enough to get you out of UB.
Nothing shocking or edgy about this one but it's hard to not immediately have your eyes drawn to it
>literally zero point getting to masters if you've already done it once>obviously not going to get to champions because I'm not playing with the 6-10 choose to instantly win meta pokemon like a drone>already at 50 max pokemon and I'm not paying for any sub over and over til the game's EOS like a cuckcan't even be fucked to open the game anymore lol
>>59442735I spoke too soon
>finally decide to trade away this legitimately caught shiny Sceptile from Z-A I traded for a week ago>a few minutes later see the exact same Sceptile up by the guy I traded it to after he decided he didn't want it eitherHonestly I'm starting to feel bad for Sceptile
>>59442743he kinda spittin fax tho
it's actually so bad that the daily quest is a fucking ranked battle. yep, I'm done with this trash. can't stomach fighting the same combination of 8 pokemon over and over. it's especially egregious that a number of the top pokes are extremely fucking stupid looking and not in any way cool or likable. another pokemon game into the trash
>>59442853ok
>>59439818>>59439904On top of what this other anon said, Sinistcha is another option instead of Trevenant, same typing but different utility.If you wanna go a little out of the box and use a special attacker in sand, I would also suggest special attacking Mega Garchomp. It's kind of a meme, but a lot of players will think it's physical and waste burns/intimidates for you to get free damage off. Corviknight and Rotom (wash probably) are also good additions if you just want to EQ spam
any tips on using mega floette? specifically i've been trying the zard y big 6 team but seems like most teams now are built around it and flo just kind of dies but that's probably because i keep leading it like a tard
>>59442853>it's actually so bad that the daily quest is playing the game. yep, i'm done with this trash?????
>>59442882Just it as a Sylveon 2.0Protect it from steel pokemon, mainly Archaludon and Kingambit, and from fire pokemon. Maybe try it under a rain team with Sneasler?
>>59442883the quest is specifically for ranked where people play zero thought auto pilot teams and use third party cheating tools. if I could just play a casual match to get the quest done that would be great. they clearly took inspiration from the other piece of shit tcg pocket but at least in that game you can literally play against a bot to get your daily battle done. casual match is much more likely to be a fun battle with pokemon variety
>>59442878Makes me wonder how many legendaries or shinies I've kept from GTS that have swear words in Korean/Chinese/Japanese for their names
>>59442737Not using meta pokemon isn't the reason you won't make it to Champion tier.
>>59442898if you dont care about ranked then just que a game and instaforfeit
>>59442898>casual match is much more likely to be a fun battle with pokemon varietyI've never played a single casual lobby of anything that wasn't exactly the same as ranked.
I can't tell what's wrong with me but I lost again and again today. It's like other players are a step ahead of me.Last game, I lead glimmora and hydreigon vs sneasler and blaziken. Switch hydreigon into talonflame anticipating protect from blaziken and cc from sneasler, instead they go for fake out and cc into hydreigon (thus talonflame).Like it wasn't a crazy play from them, it was logical, I just didn't predict that.I can't deduce what players want to do, and it's on me.
>>59442928blaziken would only click protect if it's scared of scarf hydreigon which fake out stops anywayexpecting a ladder blaziken to mindlessly click protect turn 1 isn't a crazy misplay but i'm not sure what you thought you'd accomplish even if it went down how you thought it would, sneasler turns off gale wings and then talonflame just gets outsped and dies so in every scenario going talonflame was the wrong move
>>59442904yeah it is
>>59442975I expected to kill sneasler with earth power from glimmora, but I didn't.
>>59442743>goneshame
>rock slide miss>rock slide miss>triple axel hitting once>heat wave missyeah the game really really wanted me to lose that game just now
>>59443102just as i post this, zen headbutt missed immediately losing me the second match.Fuck me for thinking i was gonna have some chill games tonight i guess
>>59443106and immediately as I post THIS, overheat missed.Alright alright i got the fucking memo, im putting the game down. Fucking hell.I want to turn every single one of my mon right now in the woodchipper. All of you dissapointed me tonight.
Some of y’all who are susceptible to tilting need to learn to recognize when you’re tilted and go for a walkThe game isn’t programmed against you, there aren’t bots custom made and sent to defeat you, the percentages aren’t being adjusted on the fly just for you. You aren’t the main character you’re just one of a million players and you’re making dumber and dumber plays the more frustrated and paranoid you get. Go jack off or work out and try again later when you’re in a calmer headspace.Or you know, get some speed control and stop going last and rolling the flinch dice altogether
>hippo yawn>hippo yawn>hippo yawn>hippo yawn>hippo yawn>hippo yawnThe singles meta is riveting
>>59443184You VILL run ze Chesto Berry
>>59442898what do you even need the daily quest for. theres nothing to get in the game
i kinda want the battle pass just for the meganium outfiti'd already have bought if it gave even like 10 extra box slots but literally everything else in the pass is fucking worthless
Is Sucker Punch impacted by evasion? I don’t know any other excuse except the opponent used Minimize
>>59443391>Is Sucker Punch impacted by evasion?Yes, why wouldn't it be?
People who use Toxaplex should get their own server where they can suck each others cocks
>>59443157Part of the frustration is that the game is developed by a multi billion dollar franchise, and you need to have a laptop up with a bunch of bullshit websites to look at resources that should just be in the game.Mega abilities are a huge miss, it’s the focal part of this game so far and you need to Google what the mega abilities are. It’s dumb.
>opponent leads metagross whimsicott>heat wave ohkos both>sends out pinsir tauros>moonblast tauros, sash activates>pinsir storm throws tauros and kills itbased retard
>>59440689I queued up against a full eeveelution team, yesterday. They got their shit pushed in, but I admire the dedication to the autism
>>59443438Eh, this is an information game. Part of the skill is knowing things: what abilities pokemon have, how fast they are, how much damage they deal and take.
Hurricane working in the sun is complete bullshit. Confusion is complete bullshit. Fuck this fucking game. Fucking cunts.
What's with this stat spread Is it LGPE related?
Ultra Ball is complete cancer full of faggots. Absolute hate this fucking game. The matchmaking is horseshit. Ruining the fucking weekend because of these lazy cocksuckers
>try out Clefable>follow me, life dew, icy wind, moonblastshe's a good supportmon
>>59443102>>59443106>>59443109you should run pic related if you're that unlucky with rolls
>New season>Reach MB>Get boredWhen new mons
>>59443712Next next season.
I should be able to send a message to people after battling them telling them what a worthless cunt they are. Win 1 lose 1 gambling machine bullshit fuckery. Unfun loser shit.Something seriously changed this season to infect huge amounts of cancer.Oh boy it’s so fun to guess Tailwind first round or just lose the match.
>>59443721cry moarlol
>>59443712How did you get past Ultra Ball this season, it is full of horseshit
>>59443726I’ll complain because fuck you. This board is useless anyway.
>>59443727I got past UB by playing metaslop. was pretty tired of finding rain teams 70% of the time. masterball 4 is chill so I can just play whatever.also if you're having trouble now you could wait until the season is about to end and climb then because there's going to be less sweats. that's what I did last season.
>>59443727I dunno I'm not shit I guess?
>>59443721faggot pussy
Spend all day playing, end up exactly at the same place I started. What the fuck I hate the people that play this game. Last three seasons in Master Ball, this season is cancer. So fucking angry
>>59443754Furry dipshit
The person who invented Incineroar and all the people who use it deserve capital punishment.
>>59443758take some time off
>>59443772Take a break and then go on another losing streak. Fuck this game.
>>59443732You aren't asking for help, so I'm not inclined to give you advice.
>>59443782go jerk off and then I guarantee you will win 2 games in a rowthat's the strategy btw. you jerk off every two games and you reach masturball rank
>>59443760who cares if I jack off to rouge the bat and some other furry characters I'm not a real furry faggot and at least I'm not a bitch
>>59443786this is grooming
>>59443758you played all day and you suck bbc at the game. sounds like the definition of retarded.
New bread>>59443837>>59443837>>59443837
