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first for you just suck at the game

hey
still looking for that anon from Philly from some threads ago.
im around town for a while, let me know if you wanna hookup or something!
ill keep watch on the thread

>>59443870
no trolls posts pretending to be a weird faggot

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Any advice on switching up this team in Doubles?

Starmie is good for coverage but too much of a liability being so weak.

I like the idea of another mega, maybe Aerodactyl but will have similar weaknesses to Charizard.

I also like the idea of Lycanroc replacing Sneasler, but the poison is valuable.

Just trying to cover edges for a sun team.

Barely seen any Mega Mawiles which surprised me because it made my climb this season easy as fuck

>>59443934
Maybe Hydreigon in place of Starmie? It has lower speed but higher power and a similarly impressive amount of coverage options.
Otherwise if you want a special focused mega, there's always something like Garde or Glimmora for pretty effective nuke options.

>>59443934
Starmie seems like it would under perform here why not just use Milotic

>>59443952
>>59443991
I like the idea of Milotic or Hydreigon instead of Starmie.


I want Sylveon but find Whimsicott too valuable in weather wars.

>>59444017
peak sloppa team and you want to remove the only soulful mon (starfish) to further sloppify your team?
kys

>>59444030
Plenty of sloppier teams than this one. How do I make the starfish not die, then.

>>59444030
A real Karenfag wouldn't shittalk others for playing to the meta in an effort to improve or win.

I haven't made it out of Pokeball this season.

>>59444041
You should get out for your monthly ranking bonus.

>>59443934
>Charizard w air slash
change it to weather ball
>whimsicott
max hp and special attack, run energy ball to oneshot swampert, ignore sunny day and run encore instead of protect
>starmie
either as a mega or life orb w analytic. drop the coverage moves. non-stab under 100BP is mostly worthless
>sneasler
if you plan on setting tailwind most of the time go with poison touch instead of unburden
>kingambit
drop protect for low kick
>garchomp
fine as is

your team is pretty standard. if you think starmie is underperforming just run the better option (basculegion) which covers for mega metagross.

>>59443945
its just cus zard and garchomp are everywhere
what was your brew

>>59444050
Air Slash is to have some form of Flying type coverage, and Whimsicott losing Moonblast means no Fairy type coverage.

However I’m open to the changes.

>>59444071
Flying coverage is kinda worthless though?
What is a STAB air slash hitting that isn't taking more damage off STAB weather ball in the sun?

>>59444045
I'm sitting on infinite money, I don't need it

>>59444084
Thinking about Fighting types. If I switch out flying moves and fairy moves, I also don’t have many psychic moves except Starmie. So that would seem like a team vulnerability

>>59443945
Earth power, heat wave, eruption go boom...

>>59443934
If you still want to run Charizard, try out the Charizard rain team that's been going around. It's a little tricky at first because you need to not step on your own toes, but once you get the hang of it you'll find you can pin most teams. Like even if they have the perfect answers for your sun mode or your rain mode, they still have to pick the right counters to bring so every match is at worst a 50/50.

>>59444095
Yeah but
What fighting type are you consistently seeing is taking more damage from a STAB weakness air slash over a STAB sun boosted weather ball?
The only argument that could be made is the fire/fighting types but they are very uncommon sights. And they're sorta squishy outside of emboar so I'd still check the damage calcs to see if its a meaningful damage drop off between the two moves.
What is air slash actually for here? What fighting types are you seeing

>>59444156
Fair point, and it leaves it open where if I switch weather ball for Charizard and Energy Ball for Whimsicott, I can swap Starmie with Sylveon or Milotic for some more bulk

>>59444173
I do recommend Sylveon.
That is budget Floette where you can take Zard with it.

Shit Dead Game

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Honest player reporting in

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Need a thicc pumpkin gal for the trick or treat + kingambit super effective dark move gimmick please, the smol one I have one is too fast for trick room

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>>59443837
How true is this shitpost?

Love it when a "lucky crit" from the opponent gives me a better board state taking out my screens setter so one of my boost sweepers can come in

>>59444378
Pretty true. If you had an accurate poll of what the least liked generational gimmick is, I'd put money on Dynamax being the winner.

Do people run Rock Tomb Garchomp purely for Volcarona? I mean, it's a fantastic perfect counter, but what else is that meant to be for?

>>59444419
people run rock tomb as single target coverage for charizard
volcarona is unfortunately also covered by the tech people run for charizard

>>59444356
white people act civilized and don't act like disrespectful niggers and try to cheat every second so argentina certainly doesn't qualify as white

>>59444378
>z-move apologia

>>59444378
Accurate
Dynamax was just bullshit

>>59444284
>weather wars participant
>honest
Show me that unnerve tyranitar and we'll talk

>>59444444
A waste

>>59444444
BASED

>>59444443
Do you only consider throwing as honest?

>>59444428
Never played comp during Gen 7 and 8, what was wrong with Z?

>>59444456
Everything people complained about closed sheet tera with but twice as bad, not even counting the set up move shenanigans. Also the dances are extremely cringey.

>>59444451
I just don't consider weather, tailwind or trick room honest.

Sinistcha makes whimsicott look honest

>>59444447
>t. swampert
Bet you like Freeze-Dry as well.

Mega Ampharos is best for soak shenanigans in TR, mega eel has such an awkward speed tier and everyone knows what bellibolt does and its attacks are too weak

>>59444513
sleeper pick for the actual most cancer mon in the format

Apologies for crashing out, finally got to Master Rank.

Good learnings, and thanks for anons advice. Need to take those breaths and hit the books after a loss.

>>59444622
I hate it, at least whimsicott is frail, predictable, doesn't have a busted spread move, rarely cucks your trick room and hits pretty weak unless you give it a Life Orb/Fairy Feather next to mega floette

>>59444352
sent :)

not really champions related, but damn showdown is pretty dead right now. just waited like 30 seconds for a randbats game vs someone 100 points lower than me and I'm not super high ladder or anything.

>incineroar lives life orb high horsepower from mamoswine with oblivious
F this bs pokemon, good riddance I got the double protect off to waste sun turns so I could KO their garchomp with shadow sneak into a +6 aqua jet

>>59444768
Thanks heaps and God bless

>>59444782
i thought you must have missed something but apparently incin doesn't even need defense investment to live this, it's only 6% chance to OHKO on adamant with +HP
what the fug why is it so tanky

>>59444782
Please use Adamant Life Orb Mamo.

>>59444782
Incineroar is a more minmaxed Swampert. Same defensive stats, more attack because fuck you

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Somehow made it to master ball rank with my shit team
What's the reward for reaching champion rank?
Fuck Sneasler between

This simisear team looks mad retarded

>>59444839
>sinistcha and archaludon
Doesn't count

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>>59444853
Raichu X and Talon flame where the star of the team
Archaludon helped me win once?
Sinistcha is good, I agree

>>59444770
all the newbies migrated to champions so all that's left on showdown are autists

>>59444865
Idk i just beat a dumbass the other day with a random ass team despite forgetting dark types are immune to prankster

Is Ceruledge good? I just got a shiny one in Home. Is it better in singles or doubles? The shiny "color" on this thing is dogshit though. I took like half an hour before anyone would even take these because no one could tell.

Politoed weather ball on zard y while switching to Tyranitar is the funniest shit

>>59444912
yes but you gotta protect it until its a beast

>>59444912
>shiny ceruledge
lmao

>>59444839
>shit team
>look inside
>it's all meta picks or anti meta picks

Alright

>>59444071
you keep moonblast and energy ball
you drop sunny day and protect

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>>59444839
>feather dance talonflame
holy stall team

>>59444964
>anti meta picks

>haven't opened the actual game in days
>just been playing Wonder Box gacha + day trading simulator in Pokemon Home
I'm getting big returns as a Clauncher fisherman.

>>59444963
Yeah I just traded it back. I have one in the gacha that is 99% the same as the shiny one so if I REALLY wanted to use a Ceruledge I would just use the in game one.

>>59445009
>I have one in the gacha that is 99% the same as the shiny one so if I REALLY wanted to use a Ceruledge I would just use the in game one
Space in the gacha costs a lot more than space in Home, though. I keep as few pokemon from the gacha as I can.

>>59444993
ive been playing gts stocks since may and can pretty much be one of those tasteless guys who bring in a full team of shiny pokemon

>>59445010
I bought the starter pack but I don't want to pay for any subscription so I'm more limited by Home than Champions. I only want shinies that I actually like in my Home space.

>trade sneedler for gholdengo
>could trade up to floette
>gholdengo is an alpha mon from ZA caught in a love ball
damn, I already have one in champions that I pulled from the gacha

>>59445029
Is it also level 100? Look at it again. I'm pretty sure that one is shiny too. I have one of those.

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>>59445037
heh what the hell

>>59444912
>>59444912
i'd consider ceruledge more of a singles mon but it can absolutely work in doubles
bitter blade / shadow sneak / protect then flex 4th slot bulk up, poltergeist or swords dance
flash fire > weak armor
bulk up with HP investment is a monster with the right support

>shiny Ceruledge is identical except for different-colored eyes
>shiny Gholdengo is identical except for blue lines instead of orange lines
I see the trend of garbage shinies has persisted into the modern generations.

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>it’s another parish trap and protect spam episode

>>59445040
Yeah it's that one. This Mincus guy seems to do giveaways regularly to promote his channel or something. I think you might as well keep it. The fact that it's shiny you could probably trade it for something better than Floette if that arises.

is mega delphox actually good or is it just zard y for hipsters
i.e. is psyshock ever relevant or is it just a zard that doesnt die to mega aerodactyl

>>59445045
ACKSHUALLY it's silver lines

>>59445059
I've had success with it. I used Charizard last time so I wanted something else just for a change. Unlike Charizard it out speeds a ton of things naturally. I rarely get a chance to click nasty plot though.

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>>59445050
>Kisame we are leaving
Except you aren't going anywhere

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>>59445050
>see gengar and incineroar
>bring mega raichu and kangaskhan
>flinch both t1 and nuke gengar with zap cannon/last resort

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>it's another "i stopped their turn 1 gimmick strat so now they're timer stalling" episode

>>59445079
Yep, that's me

>>59445097
based faggot

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what are some counters to sneedler that can snipe it turn one if it does not go for fake out?

>>59445209
Any mon which can oneshot it. giraffe with twin beam and aero with dual wingbeat are the generic answers.
I would also say scarf tsareena with zen headbutt, but then again, i also posted this >>59443106

>>59445215
probably aerodactyl then even though it's not that useful to my team strategy. I need to get rid of hard hitting pokemons so I can setup with hisuian goodra

>>59445209
It hates Psychic and Ground, and it’s got pretty weak defenses. Psychic from Politoed demolishes it.

There’s the off chance it runs a Focus Sash, so would double into it or use Twin Beam or Dual Wingbeat to be sure it’s off the board if it’s giving you problems.

Also it can barely do anything to ghosts.

>>59444052
Mega Swamp/Sableye mode for Y-Zard specifically, although it helped way more against Torkoal teams. M-Mawile threatens Garchomp and Y-Zard pretty well under TR in some cases since it threatens with Rock Slide and Play Rough.

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Someone took it but it took a good few minutes

>>59445445
Can you overwrite nicknames in Champions?

>>59445551
yes

>>59445552
maybe i should have kept that shiny Vaporeon with a slur for a name

VIVILLION IS SO FUCKING GAY

Question about speed tiers.

Would it be worth going minus Speed on a Kingambit as an anti trick room strat, or is the threshold not worth it considering sucker punch?

And what speed level is best for setting up Encore against an opposing Whimsicott? Above speed or below?

>>59445823
I had someone Hisuian Zoaroak as a Vivillion, now that was some next level bullshit

>blizzard freezes corviknight, OHKOs whims
>m-delphox comes out
>heat wave misses m-froslass
>shadow ball crits and OHKOs

whoever I just did that to I'm sorry

When Fluttermane

>>59445838
when is xchu going to be good

>>59445836
Bro thinks he's getting off sucker punch when the giraffe has assumed direct control. What you're sacrificing with speed is low kick on opposing gambit and incin out of tr

>>59445884
So a Kingambit might want a few extra points in speed draws.

Does a Low Kick OHKO an Incineroar assuming Defiant?

I am running a staraptor team with dual screen setters in Grimm and a-ninetales. Sometimes it feels like a waste, because they are both good against dragons and weak against steel so I am thinking about replacing Grimm but then I fear ninetales will reveal itself as a not so good pokemon because there is so much weather around and I lose those shields if the weather changes.

>>59445838
Hopefully never

>basc loses adapability from mummy
>it's burned
>last respects STILL OHKOs
jesus fucking christ man

>>59445931
oh and it was an ice type in the snow too

>>59445900
>+1 32+ Atk Kingambit Low Kick (80 BP) vs. 32 HP / 0 Def Incineroar: 170-200 (84.1 - 99%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
at +1 never

Isn't competitive pokemon just a battle of flipping coins

>>59446009
Yeah but it's fun deciding which coins to flip

They putting out official teams built by non-retards. Did not expect that. They should really have them in game, though. Like a try this promo team, free! Then you can spend vp to get the mons/customize

>blast through opponents first 2 or 3 mons
>they always have something in the back that just completely walls or btfos my team
I feel like this happens every time

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>>59445935
>oh and it was an ice type in the snow too

>>59446077
Ice types gets a 50% def boost in Snow.

>>59446080
>>59446077
Also it had aurora veil up and had used iron defense

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>if I roll a shiny, I make a team with it, no exceptions
>roll the fucking tranny seal

>>59446088
Damn what a shit ability

>>59446101
seriously what's the point? it just turns hyper voice in to surf and allows sing to affect ghosts, is that about it?

>>59446088
hey at least this thing completely walls incelroar

>>59446103
It does either of those lol
Sing always worked on ghost and surf targets the entire field, hyper voice only targets the enemy.
The best use case for it was throat spray but guess what isn't in the game.

>>59446103
>STAB Hyper Voice allowing you to bypass things like Sub
>No need to run Chuddy Water which is weaker and has piss accuracy or Surf which damages allies
>Makes Psychic Noise STAB, making it an excellent stall breaker
>Water type Round Memes
It's not a God tier ability but it's genuinely really good for Primarina.

>>59446122
>>59446103
It's for hyper voice, because sparkling aria is dogshit in doubles. The problem is that it doesn't boost those moves power like pixilate does.

>>59444839
>no see, I have to set the rain MANUALLY!
>haha my team is shit
Honestly I think its pretty cringe that you're trying so hard to avoid being "that guy" by playing sub-optimally on purpose.

>>59446128
sparkling aria is the most niche tech move ever. literally just the anti-ursaluna move.

>>59446193
It's called trying to actually play the game instead of mindlessly copy pasting the script you read online

>>59446205
>ugh, mindless SHEEP following online builds
>I use QUALITY ORIGINAL teams that are FUN to play
Sure buddy.
I'm sure your lucario who's proud of his power is proud of you too

>>59446122
Huh, I never really considered round memes mostly because I keep forgetting round exists...
Could be funny.

>arcanine has 100 special attack
what

>>59446230
Yep
Arcanine's an all rounder.

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>>59446233
555 BST too. More points than Volcarona.

>>59446241
A shame none of its stats are particularly good.

>>59446244
if he was a little faster, he'd be a great snarler without scarf, still intim with snarl does put in work sometimes

>>59446205
>instead of mindlessly copy pasting the
But then we look inside and it’s
>Sinistcha
>Archaludon
>Mega Raichu

>>59446244
Before Intimidate Incineroar existed he was doing fine for himself.

>>59446269
He really just suffers from power creep.

What do we think are the next batch of inclusions? Golisopod, dondosigiri?

>>59446277
the real thing that killed him is when his rocky replacement ate what remains of his lunch

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>too stupid to play non TR and learn speed tiers
>play TR
>enemy has a 50% chance to prot spam, every 2 turns

>>59446295
Wait until this guy learns the double tr trick

I'm like 95% sure forced 50 exists. I've missed 6 of 7 play roughs, and I've had about 50% of thunderbolts I use, during the first turn of TR, hit a para and allow that mon to underspeed my other mon and flinch/ohko them. There is just no mathematical way I'm continuing to win an effective lottery - while on a 10 game win streak.

>>59446295
do you have a strong spread attacker? no more worrying about guessing who clicked protect (or follow me/rage powder)

only wide guard but it's fairly rare

>>59446344
It's extremely common to just double protect against TR, because that puts the burden of both: running a boosting move, AND predicting when to use it on the TR user. It's not really a good strat in high elo, especially in the sense of hard tr, for a reason.

>>59446358
I'm not sure I understand

yes double protect guarantee stalls one turn, but you're now completely vulnerable on the next one

>>59446379
Sure, but you can do things to mitigate that, like have a switch ready to go. The point is that double protecting on 2 of TR turns really hurts the strategy. It's an additional layer TR has to deal with.

>>59446379
The problem is if they know you'll just outspeed and kill them they have literally no reason NOT to just play the protect roulette and click it again.

This is why I run Imprison on Farig

The trick to trick room is having a mon or 2 that can do well in and out of it, something pretty bulky with speed control moves to make up for its low speed like kingambit or azumaril, also tanky mons behind screens waste turns better than protect spam, aim to kill the giraffe asap if you use attack boosting priority users

CharY isn't the problem, it's when its paired with garchomp or venasaur, i specifically run mamoswine alongside ychu for this reason

How many decades until they retcon air slash to hurricane on Rotom fan

>>59446088
>perish song
Don't worry he doesn't like himself either

>>59446295
That also works with tailwind. They made these only last 4 turns and non extendable for a reason. Otherwise you wouldn't have a defense against it if you didn't bring something specifically to counter it.

How good will Dondozo be without Tera grass?

>>59446568
i've never really had problems with garchomp since it spontaneously disintegrates if you blow a snowflake on it - and it doesn't do anything that feels like cheating, it's just strong overall

venusaur is true though, wtf were they thinking putting chlorophyll and sleep powder on the same guy that shit is cancer aids

videogame

14 days until nothing happens... again.

>>59446633
But anon, you'll have an August Singles Challenge!
Think of all the fun!

>>59446633
Dead Game

They should make a pokemon who is like Aegislash, but with Speed instead of Attack or Defense.
Make it switch from super slow to super fast every round and give it two-turn moves like Dig and Fly to mindgame the opponent.

What are some good partners for krookodile?

Honestly they should should just add 2-3 mons or megas per ranked season so there's always something to look forward to.
Adding mons every three months is completely retarded and killed the game's momentum.
I can't believe I'm saying this but even fucking Master Duel is doing a better job because there's a new pack + gimmick event every month.

>>59446784
Anything that can activate anger point.

>>59446793
Biggest problem with this is the only moves that 100% crit are SE on Krook, so unless you're going to 100% scarf sweep, you're going to have some trouble if someone else can land a hit on you or wide guard you out of the game

How do you beat scarf Vivillon spamming sleep powder

>>59446802
Rape it??

resisting the strong urge to put tbolt instead of protect on froslass just to watch pelipper die

>>59446793
Anything that doesn't involve memes?

>>59446821
I'm sorry anon.

>>59446810
Don't run Aurora Veil.
Blizz, Shadow Ball, Tbolt.

>>59446826
:<

>ko mega gengar turn one
>immediately cue the timer-stalling
oh, brother...

im new to vgc and in ultra ball but I just don't know when to protect when to double attack a mon when to switch. I just face random stuff that I'm not prepared for either cuz I barely know what half roster does. this shits rough. I'm playing that top1 aero/char/sylveon team

Is Assault Vest Diggers viable? I usually run the power band or focus sash alongside Talon.

>>59446871
AV is not in.

>>59446855
Just play and you'll eventually learn about when and which mon to protect
The good thing about overcentralizing meta like this one is that you don't need to learn that many mons because a lot of teams have huge overlap

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>>59446855
attack the pokemon that seems more threatening to you
you will also start to predict when the opponent will protect or switch out as you play. you could also try looking at gameplay videos/streams especially the ones that explain their own reasoning behind every move and try to mimic them

Worst thing about champions is you open twitter and see a video of some guy acting like something holding a common resist berry is insane tech

>>59446982
You always did have bog standard OU teams but the Smogon guy hypes up one of the Pokemon having a specific tech move as playing outside the box

>>59446982
>you open twitter
can't relate

>>59444030
>the only soulful mon (starfish)
It's only soulful if it's not shit and he's not using mega starfish so it's obviously shit.

wish they would let us know in advance which pokemon will be added next season so I can at least prepare some to transfer

I forced myself to quit for awhile. I was never a big Pokemon autist despite buying all the games. I gave Champions a go, hit masterball the first season, ultra the next, and got bored. Even only doing like a maximum of five matches a day, it's all the same shit. I have enough VP to buy any new cosmetics assuming we ever get any that aren't just locked to battle pass, so I'll continue not to bother until then. jesus fucking christ that tracksuit shit is so boring I'm sick of looking at it

>>59444378
This would be accurate if the Z-move descriptions had a stressed burnt out 'jak to go with it

>>59444469
>t. Prankster screens and quashGOD

>>59447140
shame because I like base starmie better
>100 base sp.atk and 115 speed
best it can do is run life orb and snipe garchomp

I just can't figure out a way to make Tyrantrum good in singles. He's horrible. No matter what set I run he is so lacking at doing anything other than just doing one head smash and then dying.

>>59444770
Omgon actually did suicide itself with a controversial ban right as Champions launched, so Showdown exists purely for testing teams and randbats (which are old asf now) these days.

>>59447144
Gotta keep you on the hook for Pokemon Home. Here's hoping we get more guys that can deal with ground types since everyone has a Garchomp or hippo on their stupid team.

why exactly is the starter set not available on mobile? might as well just quit since I have no box space

>>59444870
>forgetting dark types are immune to prankster
Everyone does this it's not super intuitive.

>>59447161
Once it happens to you once or twice it shouldn't happen, again. Same thing with armor tail or queenly majesty

>>59445557
>should have kept that shiny Vaporeon with a slur for a name
What you mean you didnt already?

>>59447156
Your best bet is probably a Head Smash scarf set as a cleaner.

>FINALLY got a shiny Archaludon from Home
I am content

>>59447144
>Megas that aren't already in
>a few more starters that aren't already in
>random crap in Z-A or Scarlet Violet
Use your imagination.

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>>59447222
>rillaboom next

>>59447160
It's implemented as buying DLC on Switch for some reason

>>59447176

Just head smash and outrage and hope for the best? What do you think of increasing his shitty speed as much as possible vs investing in hp and trying not to get one shot by special attacks?

>>59446320
>game released after 2006
>forced 50% winrate
Of course retard

>>59446320
>>59447247
We don't schizopost here

>>59447156
>Tyrantrum
Made for doubles rock slide / ice fang + quash sableye memez

>>59447164
>Once it happens to you once or twice it shouldn't happen, again. Same thing with armor tail or queenly majesty
... until you forget again

Imagine running protect on support pokemon

>>59446244
>>59446269
Defensive Arcanine is great, I use it over Incineroar. It misses Fake Out, but has healing, Roar, WillOWisp. People never expect it, especially as defense and prep for offense

how do you deal with rotom wash?

>>59447320
do not stuff full
use the recommended amount of detergent
separate lights and darks
i usually add a little white vinegar to the load
come on anon it's not hard
mega sceptile

>>59447320
energy ball whimsicott

>>59447342
cursed

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Reached Ultra 1 this morning with my mono-Ground team (rank-up was a Torterra sweep too)! Had two nice winstreaks this month.

>>59447343
>t. swampert

I'm tired of being a TR cuck. I want to do a what I assume has to be a tailwind to compete. Is there a way to go about doing something creative/cool? Even if it's just the main carry that is unique. I tried to make elektross work but it just isn't strong enough to start the snowball generlaly.

>>59447416
No reason to stop being a TR Chad

>>59447416
use both TR and TW

Is grassy glide actually that overpowered or is it literally just Rillaboom?

>>59447427
I'm tired of relying on mawile missing rock slide and play rough. I'm also tired of farig tbolt randomly para-ing the enemy so then im fucked. I am also using khang opener for scrappy fake out into last resort spam, which seems good, but is extremely boring.

I open farig + khang, mawile + torkoal in back like 95% of games, and the only alteration is taking vileplume + torkoal opener sometimes, or swapping torkoal for araquanid.

>>59447438
I actually want to do this, but I am too stupid to build a team and hate copying stuff 1:1

>>59447427
nta but is there a good tr setter other than farig? some games it feels like i don't need tail armor, and farigs damage isnt very good beyond that

>>59447464
Hatterene, Sinistcha and Oranguru are all pretty usable as TR setters. Seen people use Galarian Slowking and Malamar also but never used them myself.

>>59447481
I might try hatterene or sinistcha, but I feel sinistcha is super weak to double up, hatterene is weak to double up AND fake out, and oranguru is basically just farig but worse. I wish there was more variety or way to play tr.

>>59447462
trick room setter: sinistcha or whimsicott
tailwind setter: aerodactyl, talonflame or whimsicott
then you fill the rest with whatever you want. winning the speed war is often winning the fight

my team last season was farigiraf with min speed swampert and pelipper core with sylveon and two other pokemon I do not remember

>>59447493
When would you play tailwind over tr?

>>59447496
the other two were good in it. I think they were froslass and basculegion? but maybe I'm wrong

>>59447498
Oh, that makes sense. So one mode is good against certain comps, the other mode is good against others. That is a really cool idea.

>>59446855
What you're experiencing is the real barrier to VGC. It was never breeding, or IVs, or EVs, or Natures, or Abilities. Instead it was the sum total of the knowledge needed to understand all possibilities and more correct predictions.
Pokemon's doubles format is really neat and there isn't a game like it.

>>59447506
>It was never breeding, or IVs, or EVs, or Natures, or Abilities
This is also a barrier. The barrier that makes people not even bother with competitive unless they can hack the mons fast

>>59447519
thankfully champions fixed that

>>59447492
Oranguru has funny instruct gimmicks though

>>59447535
Does gambit OHKO with cleave?

>>59447519
Maybe those were barriers to you, but the bedrock barrier is always knowledge.
It's when someone has a team of competitive Pokemon, they have no idea how to pilot, that they realize how difficult it is to make correct predictions.

>>59447537
32+ Atk Black Glasses Kingambit Kowtow Cleave vs. 32 HP / 32+ Def Oranguru: 164-194 (83.2 - 98.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

>>59447560
Yeah so he absolutely dies to literally any double up, including people who mindlessly fake out + kowtow.

>>59447567
Give it the berry.

UNSHACKLE MY GOLISOPOD FROM THE HYPERBOLIC TIME CHAMBER WHERE HE WAS TRAPPED AND BETRAYED BY EMERGENCY EXIT

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new megas when?

>>59447599
Better question, WHICH new megas will it be? Obviously bax, golis, salamence.

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ty any anon in advance :)

>>59447320
Honestly I just ignore it and focus its partner until its 2v1
It doesn't really do enough to warrant attention. Oh no, it missed a hydro pump, scary!

>>59447222
I want them to add all the terrain setters, including the Tapus. If we're getting Mega Heatran it wouldn't be out of place to also have some other sub legendaries so the Tapus would fit.

>>59447622
Heatran gets fiery surge

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>predict protect
>feint
>Opponent immediately consneed

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Is orthworm good? With shed tail?

>>59447661
Corviknight but doesn't do the attacking itself

>>59447616
sent

>>59447607
Most likely the rest left. Its just them and the Z megas. Get ready for the terror of 151 base speed modest mega chomp y Draco meteoring everything you hold dear

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Zeraora tomorrow

>>59446855
>>59447506
Doesnt help that he's playing a known top team, so he's easier to predict for even his less-skilled opponents.

>>59447462
>>59447493
Trick Room AND Tailwind on Whimsicott.

>>59447685
a..anon i didn't get it :<

>>59447781
sent!

>focus sash survives fissure
>shadow sneak goes before sucker punch

fuuuuuuuuuuck this game

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>>59447790
ANONNNNNNN... stop playing with my feelings...

>>59444378
Extremely untrue and should be immediately apparent by tournament results being so centralized lol

I crit a ceruledge with my garchomp and now I feel bad about winning due to it. If had some bulk it might have been a crucial crit.

>>59444378
No.
DMax was really knife's edge where you either get steamrolled or your opponent does depending on what tech you brought and when you or your opponent gets BIG.
I didn't enjoy it at all because it was truly horrible, you get 2x HP, attacks are anywhere from 100-150BP, you get bonus effects like buffs or debuffs, immune to fake out, 25% damage through protect.
Things just spiral out of control when the power level is that high. Tera was a massive improvement even though that similarly changed the way the game is played, the penalty for being "wrong" was much lesser.

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I went on a 10x losing streak.

>>59447818
>Tera was a massive improvement
incorrect

>>59447800
sent

>>59447863
Sending you a bot

>when I win
i earned it
>when I lose
cheap broke game

>about to kill this mega froslass and it gets a DOUBLE FREEZE on the same blizzard

God didn't want me to win. I have to respect it. Well played Froslass, well played.

>>59447898
I don't care if you sucked at using it, it was the most balanced mechanic since mega evolution.
There's no debate here, I'm right, you're wrong.

I stopped using meme teams and reached master ball easily. I think there is a lesson here.

>>59448001
You pretty much have to pick the top tiers. By top tiers I mean the meta shit. When people say they used a "shit" team it usually means they played 5 meta picks then one non-meta meta-counter. Your meme team that has fun is stat sticked and oneshotted by pokemon that the devs simply cared more about.

Why would you ever Toxicroak when Sneasler exists, for instance? You wouldn't. You'd get your teeth kicked in. "I want a fire pokemon that hits hard." Go ahead and pick Ninetales bro, enjoy when you see the other guy pick ChY, set his own sunny day, and blast your ass into the stratosphere.

Even meme teams with "strategies" just get bulldozed. I'm pretty sure there are teams that a Sinistcha could straight up 4v1

>>59448007
I mean, I used a good not great team with M-staraptor, it's just that Heracross is THAT bad.

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Is there a single team where Politoed isn't just a straight up downgrade compared to Pelipper?
They did my nigga Politoed dirty. I want buffs

>>59448017
Perishtrap if you don't want to use gengar.

>>59448032
And how do you trap people without, hmmm, a trap?

>>59448073
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbs8Yk851_8

>>59448077
>Video starts with how this strategy is shit and hard to pull off

>>59447237
Always go max speed. Wasting points into sp-def isn't going to help you do your job of just nuking shit.

I haven’t played this game in days they need to add the rest of the dex right now

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>>59448182
This is good advice in the basic sense, but as you progress in the game and begin using the damage calculator, it'll be worth looking in to the calcs so you can survive specific scenarios.

For example, say your Flutter Mane is being shit on by Rillaboom's Heavy Slam. 0 HP / 0 Def Flutter Mane would get OHKO'd by it, but 116 HP / 204 Def with a Bold Nature would guarantee it always lives with at least 1 HP. That's just an off the top of my head type example but something to consider when training.

I'm dumb and I wanna make a round team
So sylv and primarina are on the team.
Maybe hisuian Zoroark as a fast round user that also has stab?
I'm wondering what megas would work well in this.

>>59448215
I'd go with Simple Beam Audino

>>59448224
How does simple beam interact with round?

>>59448230
It doesn't interact with Round specifically but it sounds fun

>>59448233
I dunno if stacking 2 memes that don't interact is a good idea.

>>59448215

I imagine you would want Soak to deal with Ghosts too

>>59448239
Yeah ghosts were 1 reason I was considering H. zoro but yeah I guess there's a consideration for soak.

>>59448010
>meme team
>M-staraptor and heracross
What's the meme? "It's dogshit on purpose"?

>>59447746
@grok is this true?

i keep forgetting milotic has competitive

>>59448310
remember to forget

>reach top 20,000 yesterday
:D
>number 125,792 today
D:

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Can anyone help me? I want the mole to counter the gay weather teams.