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Living It Up Edition

>I want to learn the game, where do I begin?
Download PTCGL at https://tcg.pokemon.com/en-us/tcgl
The game has a quick tutorial and a bunch of decent decks to get you started against other beginners or against the AI. Some of those decks are very close to meta too. You can also go to your local game store and see if people are playing Pokémon.

>I know how to play, how do I make my own deck?
You have a decent beginner's guide at https://www.justinbasil.com/guide
There's also the old /tcg/ guide at https://imgur.com/a/W4NkOu6
After that, look up meta decks and try to reverse engineer them to see how things work.

>Where to find meta decks?
For big irl events, go to https://limitlesstcg.com/decks
For online events, go to https://play.limitlesstcg.com/decks?game=PTCG
For japanese events, go to https://pokecabook.com/archives/1417

Previous thread: >>59420643

Old /tcg/ pastebin: https://pastebin.com/Ge95YuMA
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>>59438862
What an ugly card, good thing it won't see play.
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Is it worth it to play Lisia's appeal in Mega Darkrai decks? Mega Darkrai's first attack is already enough to kill most basics anyway.
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>>59439027
souless and without whimsy
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>>59439027
its cute
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>>59439027
Why are you bullying him? What did he do to you?
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>>59439027
go fuck yourself
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>>59438791
>try out tcglive
>these fags play like its fucking yugioh
>remember this "im gonna use my entire fucking deck before turn 1" bullshit is why I never got into YGO and will actively shit on it every chance I get
>have no issues with players who don't decide to do an entire disney dance number before ending their turn
>"can i play the fucking game now?"
I think I'll just stick to playing in person with judges. I dont care about losing, just let me play the fucking game. I've never had this problem with MTG or any western card game. Its even worse than AFK stalling in showdown
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>>59439182
I seriously do not understand why milling isnt punished by being an instant loss for the player who runs out of cards. Every other card game in the world OUTSIDE JAPAN does this as a basic rule to prevent this very problem.
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>playing efficiently is... le bad...
Okay, bye
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>>59439231
I'm glad that this game filters so many of these types of people. It makes everyone else's matches better when they remove themselves from the community,
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>play expanded in Live
>either get god rolled by Lugia/Regidrago VSTAR or face some newbie on a Lucario starter deck that fingered the wrong format
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>>59439182
The game is literally played the same in both tcglive and physical forms. If turns with lot of actions are a dealbreaker to you then you should just leave to mtg or something, that's just how it is around here. Maybe 4-player commanderslop where playing to win is frowned upon is more your speed?

>>59439185
Milling IS punished in pokemon tcg, if you don't have cards left in your deck by the start of your turn then you lose. I'm pretty sure it works the same way as other card games like magic.

Am I responding to bots?
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what do they even do against Slopbox? Just try to win the price by two shoting or preping with dhelmise for a final blow with sinistcha?
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>>59439258
I thought Spritomb was the finisher
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>>59439266
I have seen some list skipping spiritomb, guess the 13 ghosts in discard requisite is too much. Still, it doesn't finish ogerpons unless you attack two times with sinistcha beforehand which doesn't seem all that viable.
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Playing your turns efficiently is bad because you get to watch him do it without input but sitting across from a guy while he plays his star trek, final fantasy, and my little pony characters in his deck is okay because you got to play your cards while he infinites you or negates everything you play or summons 300 guys and kills you turn 3 but at least you got to put 2 lands and a quirky avatar badgermole down first
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>>59439273
It is too much. Ive had opponents take 5 prizes and still not have the requirements fulfilled.
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>>59439258
Hide and Sneak?
It depends on the build. Dudunsparce-ex can take 4-5 prizes on its own. Ursaluna-ex can ohko something but you still need 4 prizes elsewhere. And you can always hope that they need to play a meowth down for you to gust and ohko with dhelmise.
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I just dont get it. How are these faggots cheating and not having a retreat cost? They arent using any cards or abilities to do it but suddenly that fucking slowbro spam just allows them to hit for 3x damage + they can just swap out a 0 energy kangaskhan ex for free. Thats 10000% cheating and should be banned.

There's no other pokemon on the bench with abilities that let them do that. They just look at the metagross in their deck and suddenly hit for 240 with a move that only does 120 against my non-dragon type pokemon. Somehow their slowbros can attack from the fucking bench.
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>>59439249
Guess the judges must suck at my locals then because they didnt care when my opponent ran out of cards using the dhelmise build & battle deck.
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>>59439494
You can't lose to a deckout the moment it happens or by an effect of any card, it only counts for the default draw at the beginning of the turn. If the judges let that happen without an autoloss then they are retarded or corrupt. You should know the rules and make a complaint in the precise moment they are breaking any.
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>>59439511
I was using the miraidon deck with my literal first time playing the game and people just kept milling until they ran out of cards then claiming they beat my deck with their entire deck in the discard pile or in their hand. It was casual play anyway and I shant be going back there.


Managed to get 4 copies of that mega darkrai EX card and used gold tickets for mega gardevoir's SIR. Its wierd how well they slot into a dragapult deck. You apparently cant just outright buy commons and uncommons with gold tickets in the deck editor. I dont have a kirlia so have been forced to rely on rare candies getting ralts into mega gardevoir.
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>>59439582
for context, i went to two pre release events for pitch black where they pulled that running out of cards bullshit.

Ive tried playing TCG live today and have ran into at least 2-3 cheaters. I dont know how they hell they are able to ignore needing 3-4 energy or get 3-5 energy in a single turn without any abilities, items, or supporters that would let them do that.
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This is such a filler set. Browsing TCG Player and the only things worth getting are the full art Crushing Hammers and Energy Switches.
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>>59439603
what do you expect when sets are designed by people who don't play the game and all of their "testers" just fuck around and don't actually do anything productive
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>pult player takes 15 minutes
>queue up again into him
>I try to take 15 minutes and it's basically impossible even when I'm trying to slow play

how do they do this, can someone teach me?
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>>59439651
This is literally the opposite experience for me
>play gardepult deck
>literally every other player is either a cheater or some faggot almost running gthe clock out abusing some extremely niche mechanic with uber omega ultra rare cards that give triple energy on an alolan raichu

Expanded is fucking cancer and Im glad i skipped b/w to present. I really like the mega evolution block and at least i got the mega Gardevoir ex and mega darkrai ex SIR's I wanted both IRL and in game. Very cool cards
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>try to play ranked
>opponent attacks
>"flip a coin, if this attack lands on tails it does nothing"
>coin lands on tails
>ONE HIT KO's MY POKEMON ANYWAY
God damn this is almost as bad as master duel. Only difference is I can actually play the game somewhat.

Can we just fight the ai instead? These fags taking forever to take their turn is no fun. TCG pocket doesnt have nearly as many wannabe YGO players in it either. I only get enjoyment out of PVE.
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>abusing some extremely niche mechanic with uber omega ultra rare cards that give triple energy on an alolan raichu
how can they be rare if you can just open the game and craft them and how is it abusing niche mechanics when this game is so simple children are the target audience which means cards have to blatantly say what they do
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Why do these fags all try their damndest to run the clock out. GO PLAY YGO if you want to do that "imma use my entire deck in 1 turn and wont let you play the game" bullshit.

You anons were complaining about dragapult but this "hide n sneak" bullshit with cheaters ignoring the retreat cost of pokemon or attacking without needing any energy cards attached is way more cancerous than 1 heavy hitter pokemon that's not nearly as obnoxious as mega lucario ex.
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>>59439182
The auto deck shuffling saves more time than people playing fast with it irl
Also just treat the online one as a side monitor game there's no reason to keep your full focus on it.
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>lost a game to deck out because I miscounted on my Lillie's and all my Surfing Beaches were on the bottom of the deck
>literally could've won if I'd just stopped and thought one turn in advance
Hate myself.
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why does this guy keep crying about turn timers
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>>59439903
His mother won't put him on Ritalin.
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I'm trying to build Mega Darkrai for Expanded this is what I have so far
Pokémon: 7
1 Pecharunt ex PRE 163
2 Mega Darkrai ex PBL 116
1 Galarian Moltres PR-SW 125
2 Galarian Moltres V BRS 183
2 Brute Bonnet PAR 123
1 Crobat V DAA 104
1 Weavile-GX UNM 132

Trainer: 17
2 Training Court RCL 169
1 Air Balloon ASC 181
4 Dark Patch ASR 139
2 Ultra Ball ASC 264
2 Battle VIP Pass FST 225
2 Boss's Orders ASC 256
2 Night Stretcher SSP 251
1 Energy Switch MEG 115
1 Air Balloon SSH 213
3 Professor's Research CEL 24
3 Quick Ball SSH 179
1 Secret Box TWM 163
3 Dark Bell PBL 106
1 Energy Switch PBL 107
2 Team Rocket's Petrel DRI 226
2 Acro Bike CES 123
2 Ancient Booster Energy Capsule PAR 159

Energy: 2
13 Basic {D} Energy MEE 7
3 Hiding {D} Energy DAA 175

Total Cards: 60


Any suggestions for improvement would be appreciated.
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>>59439493
Latias ex is always played with Mega Kangaskhan, and was probably being used there but you must have been too busy busting a gasket over a card game to notice it lets basics retreat for free
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>>59439946
They were not using latias ex, it was swapping out with clefairy ex and somehow slowbros were doing 480 damage AND ATTACKING FROM THE BENCH even after I knocked out the clefairy and they swapped in their second copy of kangaskhan ex.
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Elaine!
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>>59439972
Did you mix this up with some pedo thread in other tab?
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>>59439582
>people just kept milling until they ran out of cards then claiming they beat my deck with their entire deck in the discard pile or in their hand
Yes, like you were told, if you cant draw when your turn starts is when you lose by deckout.
If they have no cards in deck just wait your turn and pass? If you lost before your turn came just get better at the game.
>>59439594
You are clearly missing out on something. Its normal to not know every card when you are starting (or coming back), but calling them cheaters because you didnt bother to read the cards just makes you look bad.
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>>59439273
I guess you can hit three different EXs with dhelmise and then spiritomb?
Takes a lot of work but unless they can attack with waterpon 3 times in 3 turns you should still get a 6 prize turn. If they managed to do that you got haxed anyway, kudos for them.
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>>59440060
Slop box would beat that approach with the cat or the fish to bump their own area zero. It also prevents you from ever playing prism tower.
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>>59439301
How's it going for you? To me it looks weird without 4-4 tea, spiritomb, prism tower and gwynn. And filling your bench with 2 prizers in a supposedly 1 prize deck... at this point just remove the ghost veil cards and put a 4-4-3 pult line in
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On a winstreak after teching in Koraidon ex. I had one game where a high roll Pult took 4 prizes turn 1 with a Cursed Blast and was completely unable to do anything after Bastiodon + Clefairy Crispin KO. Here I had the option of devolving the Lucario and killng the Riolu while his board state was empty if he Hariyama'd it up instead of the Latias(?). And this was a game where all my stadiums and an armor fossil were prized, usually Lucario buckles to Bastiodon.
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the item that lets you reroll being normal pokemon only is so lame, that would have been fun in the heliolisk deck
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>>59440064
True, you'd have to keep hitting waterpon so they cant keep it in the field. After two hits they're are in their last prizes alredy.

>>59440107
Yup, many decks could be fun to try if it had no restriction on the typing.
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>>59440052
>If they have no cards in deck just wait your turn and pass?
They ran out of cards and passed the turn to me, the next turn came and they still kept using their pokemon with no cards left to draw.

>>59440078
Im having fun with my Mega Gardevoir EX/Mega Latias EX deck. Idk how they managed to get so much energy off so fast with that mega lucario deck. Even when I can pump up enough damage via mega symphosia to do 500 damage, they still somehow keep two tapping unless I use that healing card.
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>>59440078
This deck is the most fun homebrew I have ever made and is only bad against certain shitty single prize decks where you can't get your board state set up faster than them.
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Azul stream in a nutshell: takes 5 minutes to play 3 actions, misplay, concede.
I feel bad for anyone who has to play with him IRL if he plays the same way.
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So why did they make a deck (Ghost Veil) that completely shuts down any single prize deck? Are they retarded?
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What's the best way to get rid of the opponent's Boss's Orders with fossil box? Or better yet, do I just run 4 switches?
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>>59440404
Any viable single prize deck can race ghost veil just as quick, because that's whats required to beat 2 prize decks
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>>59440404
What are you smoking? The best single prize deck eats ghost veil alive, Slowking.
>Damage is not an effect
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>>59440765
Shaymin shuts down Slowking so what is your point?
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>>59440766
These are the only lists that placed so far in Japan (2nd and 6th place).
Show me shaymin in there.
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>>59440775
There was one tournament. We currently are not in a season.
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I really like gardevoir’s mega symphosia. Solves all of the problems i had with dragapult and only needs 1 energy to start farming at least 150 damage a turn.

How do i know when opponents are cheating? When i ko their only pokemon with energy on it and they dont play cards like crispin that allow you to get more than 1 energy a turn. The only legit energy spammer deck i cane across was someone using a wailord ex deck and having massive 400-600 hp health pools and hitting for 270 that i had to body with mega symphosia. Using cards that gave 4 water energy. Thats a fair loss slugfest match. What isnt fair is some fag spamming megas with no energy and somehow using 3-4 energy attacks with no energy attached
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What's the best way to use my trainer points? Like what set is best to pull from? I'm spamming Build & Battle atm so I don't really think I need Pitch Black packs.
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>>59440910
Celebrations
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>>59440910
idk how i got a master set just by grinding to level 40 in the battlepass in a single afternoon. i have some build and battle codes but am too lazy to dig them out of the bulk pile
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>>59440919
Understood. I was going to ask why, but realized it's to farm credits.
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>>59440938
Pretty much, set is small and consists of only rare+ cards so you max it real fast and get the highest credits back
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>>59440404
Shouldn't festival lead do well into ghost veil?
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dead bot thread
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this thread is always dead
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>>59438791
TCG live turns take way too long. If they halved the match time so retards dont play like its YGO it would be way more fun.
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>>59440765
>>59440766
There will probably be a healthy back-and-forth war of techs between the two decks, with ghost veil heavily favored due to slowking's energy costs.
>slowking plays kyurem, ghost veil plays shaymin
>slowking attempts to attack with clefairy, ghost veil plays their kieren or bangle
>if clefairy lives, tries to push 170 back with cofagrigus, ghost veil plays patrat
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What the fuck is up with the RNG in this shitty game? I'm getting fucked in the ass every single match because I can't get the one fucking card I need. Jeet coded piece of shit.
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>Abyss Eye is bugged and just doesn't work sometimes
Okay that's all I needed to know to not even try and play this
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>>59441041
are you implying they coded the RNG to always be bad but only for you
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>>59441058
Yes because I am the main character in this world.
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>>59441115
then why are you losing
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>>59441125
Because jeets coded my RNG to be always bad.
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>>59441129
>main character losing to jeets
lmao
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>>59441045
>He tried to confuse a dark type with bell
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Why is standard not the current block only? I get the pseudo YGO slop around hide n sneak but N's zoroark is just obnoxious to deal with without spamming boss's orders and SMITING anything that has any real attacks.
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>>59441218
>spamming boss's orders and SMITING anything that has any real attacks.
You fucking retard, you are not supposed to gust the reshiram/zekrom. The match against zoroark is all about prize racing. If your deck can't deal with a 280hp 2 prizer consistently then maybe you are just playing a shit list.
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my deck... has a losing matchup...? change the system please...
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I'm thinking about selling my Japanese collection.
It's 151/151 original with all 48 holos. People are charging about $4,000 AUD for that
65/65 Team Rocket, which goes for about $1,700
Corocoro Mew promos which are priced at about $1,000 in similar condition.
CD Promo Charizard/Venusaur/Blastoise estimated $1,100 Moderately played.
Early Entei / Sucuine / Reiko LP, $400
All 8 Gym Leaders Holo Trainers, LP to Near Mint $350
An additional copy of base holo Zard / Blast / Venus (roughly $820)
Two $400 Jirachi holos
Dark Charizard / Dark Blastoise spares $1000
Erikas Venusaur (This one's uncertain, showing between $100 and threefold)
$100 Ancient Mew

I really just wanted to post this here so i could map it out as i go, these were all cross referenced and price checked on eBay real time with comparable condition listings. Those are the high-ticket items though

All up it's worth about $11,270 but I'm thinking of going for $10,000 for a nice round even number and to pass on more short-term resale potential for any buyers intrigued enough to realize they could make a quick 15%-20% profit should they be inclined to immediately flip it on their own eBay store
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>>59441218
>Why is standard not the current block only?
Staple cards have to be reprinted less often if one start-of-generation set is always in the format (D, G, J) when 3 blocks are legal.
But a J-only format would fucking suck balls.
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>>59441238
>you nincompoop, you are not supposed to gust the reshiram/zekrom
why do you 4chanGPT tardbots all sound the exact same? There's no organic posters left on this dogwater website and all you do is aggressively attack anything that isnt part of your botnet.
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>>59441243
> format (D, G, J)
What do these mean? I only started playing the game with pitch black.

Its just wierd how every other match feels like the opponent is just running the time out and cheating when they somehow havent milled their deck by turn 2 after discarding 30+ cards in 1 turn.
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>>59441242
Some advice as a small-time seller: try to sell locally, and try to get cash if you do. The former saves you the hassle of dealing with shipping issues and the anxiety of wondering whether the post office will inadvertently destroy your package, and the latter is to keep all the money for yourself.
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>>59441238
Nah, we should just ban broken I-block cards like boss, lillie, and zoroark.

>>59441249
The little letter in the corner of the card. They mostly correlate to the year the card was released in and determine if a card is legal in the standard format.
It solves the issue of every single promo card being released automatically becoming legal in standard. One particularly egregious example was when a BW-era EX got an alternate art reprint during the final year of XY and suddenly gained 3 more years of legality.
It also unifies card legality between Japan and International.
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>>59441254
I have almost 200 sales and nothing has been destroyed / gone missing so far. I think it helps that i always mail it it in Cardboard packages and never bubble mailers or envelopes.

Australia post is quite professional honestly we don't have retarded thieves handling the goods. & if it's something as high priced as this i will likely use a global courier for an extra $100 so it's in more reliable hands the moment it arrives overseas (Usually America)

I don't know why you recommend cash? I much prefer having digital bank. As for local it's greatly preferred but then I cut off a large portion of potential buyers, getting Japan is niche many poke-collectors here prefer English. There are so many stores over in Japan selling exclusively Pokemon too that i could get immediately bought by a retailer who is intimately familiar with the price potential
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>>59441263
If you have such a hateboner for zoroark then just play apples, it's that simple
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I have never encountered a single bug in tcg live and I have been playing to arceus every season for a little over a year.
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>>59441311
Sorry, but in my perfect J-block-only world the apples do not exist.
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hey give me my twitch drops already
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Pultsisters.. I thought 3-prizers were a meme? How can I be losing to Mega Exadrill??
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>>59441443
because you're bad
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>>59441443
It literally has no draw bro, a single unfair stamp kills it lol
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>>59441491
>It literally has no draw bro
uhh but the Genesect? The Metang??
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>>59441504
That's search, not draw. And it's specific search at that. More copies of Steel evos and attaching energy from deck doesn't always equal an actual card in value.
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>>59441504
Those aren't draw effects.
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You’re going to win 1-2 of these winner stamped pikachu + the deckbox and sleeves, right /tcg/? You surely aren’t a shitter?
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>play the game
>get nigger fucked by RNG
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i tried the mega dog again with the new lightning energy
its nice, especially with the new mini mane but i feel like i constantly brick on energy
i have 4 voltaic 6 normal meming with voltrean as well,maybe i need hilda, maybe its just me
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>>59441540
>inb4 my pitch black vikaceptor deck also shits on dragapult ex
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There is no legitimate reason for these stalling faggots to be able to take 5+ min for a turn. Tabbing out to change music for 20 seconds gets the timer on me while these assholes are playing like its fucking YGO in casual.
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>>59441558
>laying like its fucking YGO
How many times are you going to say this? We get it already.
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you would be winning all of those games if you were playing control and forcing them to lose by timeout
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>>59441549
its kinda like typhlosion (damage wise), without the built in ethan engine, getting to the magic 320 is possible but you are a phase 2, with 2 energy required
im a typhlosion fan (since before the rape) so id go with that anyways

>>59441571
im making a rampardos deck with hammers next to specifically annoy dragapult by discarding all their energy
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>>59441540
Why is everyone black now? Pitch black even.
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>>59441677
Darkrai-M turned off the lights
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>>59440998
No because of Fluttermane. Festival Lead KOs one pokemon, she goes to the front and stop them from attacking a second time by shutting off their ability.
Two teapot attacks can pretty much wipe their board.
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>>59441218
>Why is standard not the current block only?
New year starts. You can only use one collection of 200~ cards for the first five or so months.
Can you see how SHIT this format would be?
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>>59439940
I forgot to include Sneasel, Janine and Koga. This is what I'm going for.
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>>59441872
I'm not sure if it pairs well with mega darkrai, but you could include the eternatus+kecleon infinite energy package.
>Eternatus Vmax big bench
>Kecleon CRE with dark energy is a dark type
>Darkai-GX brings an energy from discard
>Weavile-GX move the energy off darkrai, then kecleon to make it no longer a dark type
>Eternatus VMax abiltiy disabled, discard the darkrai
>repeat until all energy in play

And umbreon darkrai tagteam as your GX attack.
Galarian Slowbro V is an alternate source of poison, but you would probably include a latias-ex to retreat and no longer have a pure dark deck.
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Im gonna drooooow! IM DROOOOOWWWING CARDS!
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>>59441894
Give it to me in 60.

or hell I'll try it myself later
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>>59441894
You can use Pecharunt to swap out Slowbro and, there is the special dark energy that gives you free retreat.
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>>59441984
Is Toucannon real? I like the idea of playing Palkia-lite, it was my favorite deck at the time back then.
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>>59442057
Yeah its good if you don't get hit with Watchtower and fail to remove it. The only loss ive have with it that wasn't because of bricking was because of turn 1 Watch Tower plus my opponent milling my Area Zeros with a Tyranitar. You can play it with typical slop box stuff too but just sticking with Toucannon and Ogerpon has been working for me.
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This is bastard's game.. Why you are playing Boss's Orders every fucking turn? Do you always have this card?
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Why is the finals lucario vs pult? Weren't the purple cards supposed to erase them from the game?
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>>59442218
The twat on the left isn't even using legal sleeves.
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>>59442218
Didn't Lucario win Full Grip's new set cup last time too?
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Eat shit.
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>>59442285
A single special metal energy would have fixed this lol
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The Fossil junk is such a noobtrap. No wonder so many people in this thread think they're playable.
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>12 basics
>4 poffin
>4 pokepad
>still get peepee poopoo hands with 1 basic and no pokemon search every now and then
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Live, plyaing against pult. Dude put watchtower down after playing lilie, immediately after he puts meowth ex down. Does nothing for a long time, then concedes.
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it was funny the first couple of times...
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>>59442917
Been there, done that. Sometimes the shame is too much.
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>play build and battle
>have bastiodon on bench
>opponent attacks with only two energies FOUR times
these are the retards complaining about cheaters
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>>59444436
What attacks were they using?
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>>59444438
miraidon's thunder
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>>59444445
>>59444444
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>check new format filter on Limitless
>sort by winrate
>BlazePult is nearly 60%
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>>59444886
excadrill is really popular right now so that could be why.
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How do i find my energy with mega manetric,eels and ionos voltrean?
once i get 2 discarded its smooth sailing but getting them is the problem
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>>59445106
You play a better deck.
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>Down to 1300 playing jank.
I'm going to have to Grimmsnarl up to 1500 again aren't I?
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>>59445973
It really doesn't matter. The shitter cutoff is 1800 and I doubt you'll ever reach it anyway.
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would this be better with prism instead of fighting?even though there'd be no real way to search for it
has anyone tried the new absol?
i'm trying it like this for festival lead
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>>59446033
That's what I would say if I were a shitter that couldnt break 1900
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I'm about to get fucked by the cutest deck I've ever played against desu.
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>>59445106
Been trying to build an electric deck and honestly the whole color's just a shitshow

>Iono's Kilowattrel
Requires an actual attach unlike Delphox and Lunatone where you can just discard an energy. I guess you could pair it with Iono's Iono's Bellibolt but both have shit attacks unlike Solrock/Lunatone and also Bellibolt is a stage 2 anyways AND you can only attach to Iono's pokemon which are all shit.

>Mega Manectric
You need Voltaic Energy and three total to oneshot Excadrill or Chandelure... once. First attack is basically only good against slopbox but they probably have a way to counter it. You can't even hit early like Mega Starmie.

>Vikavolt
This would be cool if it were a basic but it's stage 2 and therefore it's a meme.

>Heliolisk/Mega Zerara/Kilowattrel ex
You need outrageous amounts of energy for these to do anything. Meme.

>Dragonite
Yeah it's a dragon but it's electric attack cost so it sort of counts. Anyways, you need to run water energy and also the search ability is comically worse than Genesect. And it can't even do 350 with Voltaic because it's not actually electric. It does give you bench control which is tantalizing but you need rare candy + 5 pokemon slots to do what Pecharunt does with 1.

The ONLY good line in the whole thing is Eelectric/Mega Eelektross as a sort of diet Blazekin, but without a free retreat like Mega Sharpedo the paralyze lock is a pipedream. I guess you could run 4x switch / 4x air balloon and hope for the best. This in the energy type of their main mascot (which is also unplayable). What were they thinking.
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>>59446388
Now imagine if your type was unplayable for 6 years instead of 1 format
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>>59446393
>Now imagine if your type was unplayable for 6 years
Water?
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>>59446388
mega raichu will save us, trust the plan!
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>>59446398
Water had decks last year even. I was specifically talking about grass
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>>59446408
festival lead
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Is a new weakness box possible if it's 3x now?
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>>59446411
Every playable grass deck has popped up within the last year is my point. Before that grass was functionally dead as a type for nearly 5 or 6 years.
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>>59446413
Is there any big changes for 3x besides moltres being able ohko beedrill and hydrapple? Then it probably is not worth building a deck around them.
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>>59446425
It could introduce new attackers to work for it now not just moltres. Especially when you add in modifiers beforehand like bangle. Even packages like gadget show rotom would hit hard enough at 3 times
The scope of possible mons that could ohko for weakness will be far larger now
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>>59446413
no
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>>59446176
anyone here playing absol?
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>>59446176
>munkidori and 57 other cards
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>>59446564
>Took up your tool
>No choice belt
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>>59446413
Maybe Pokemon shouldn't have over 300 HP. Wouldn't need cards like this.
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>>59446414
forever paying for forest of giant plants' sins
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>>59446706
It really was
>Meanwhile psychic has committed war crimes since gen3 and keeps getting rewarded with more
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i don't like using darmanitan in my zoroark deck
but i also struggle against 1 prizers
what's my option here?
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>>59446788
Play an Anthea and Concordia so you're forced to play it.
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>>59446537
Oh i will 100% revisit rotom box with 3x weakness
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What is with all of these 4x Dark Bell, 4x Xerosic stall decks on live?
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This magnetric control list is super fucking toxic.
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>>59447393
list?
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>>59447398
I need to test mine some more but it heavily punishes decks that don't have switches.
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Dragapult/Blaziken players
What is the best stadiums to use in your opinion?

I see a lot of lists with Area Zero I'm not sure if I want to run that instead of Jamming + Watchtower but I also need to run Shaymin for my locals
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>>59446388
Bellibolt is stage 1 anon.
The only non-completely-meme electric deck would be the Bolt-Bolt. Use Iono pokemon to get lots of energy on board and draw then Raging Bolt EX to KO stuff. Levincia and Energy Retrieval to grab them back.
In a pinch, Bellibolt can attack too, 230 isnt that bad, it KOs every support pokemon.
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>>59447423
azu is probably the best for it because blazpult needs the space so its bench isn't awkward. just one meowth play completely neuters the deck especially in the pult mirror. unless I needed a reason to block tools and kang/meowth I would keep the azus in my deck
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PITCHBLACK26

Free packs
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Why does this game have so many bots?
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>>59447671
because 90% of decisions are made for you at any one time or have a single obvious answer
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>>59447671
Most people dont read the cards. You'd see posts like why can't I attack mimikyu all the time on the forums lmao.
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>>59446388
Ebbs and flows my friend
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>>59438791
maybe retarded question, but if i use stunfisk to make the enemy pokemon take 100 more damage in the next turn, but he switches it to the bench, does it still take the 100 extra if i attack with zeraora bench snipe?
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>>59447969
No. All effects get removed if something switches to the bench.
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>>59447979
oh that would have been cool if it worked...
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It feels lonely being at the top for so long...
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>>59447671
how do you like the dudunsparce engine compared to ionos birds?



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