Post Mays, Harukas, Sapphires, and her Pokémon, too!(Please try to limit the AI slop)May OC:>https://pastebin.com/VcBgtdQpMay Identification Guide (in progress):>https://rentry.co/vp-mg-may-identification-guideOC Artwork Gallery:>https://rentry.org/vp-mg-oc-fanartOC Fanfiction Library:>https://rentry.org/vp-mg-oc-fanfiction/mg/ Anon's Hoenn Anime Episodes Recap (in progress):>https://rentry.org/vp-mg-anime-recap-hoennGame Resources/Assets Collection:>https://rentry.org/vp-mg-game-assetsSapphire Birch page:>https://rentry.org/vp-mg-sapphire-birch-pokespeImage Edit Gallery:>https://rentry.org/vp-mg-oc-editsRentry Backups:>https://pastebin.com/2UmEhtcFPrevious: >>59447900
>>59467168Feel free to participate in the May-types drawfag project!
This kills the 4Kids dubfag
>>59467175Most things do.
>>59467173>Dark Maykek
>>59467182Like what?
>Pokémon if 4kids was in charge of the writing:
>Ash I just opened up to you and you made it about Misty >that was seriously not cool man>I'm starting to question your intentions with my sister
>>59467190If you're a real oldfag you will remember how horrifically Pokeshipping fanfics used to mischaracterize May
All this just proves that Franticshipping mogs.
>>59467190Nah, 4Kids would just delete May without a second thought. That's what they did in the Mirage special they commissioned but didn't get to dub.
>>59467168Happy May 90th everyone!
>>59467194Max would probably just become an Advanceshipper just to make dub Ash stop talking about fucking Misty.
>>59467209
>>59467194>Ash is literally having sex with May>4Kids dubs the scene so that he's talking about Misty for some reason during the act
>still yapping about the flat chested redhead who used to beat him up with milky mcmammaries traveling with him4kids Ash was a joke
>>59467194>Shut the fuck up Max! Your sister guilt-tripped and manipulated me into letting her follow me after her bike got destroyed! Not like my BASED Misty! STAY AT THE RESEARCH LAB!
Dub Ash trying his hardest not to look at Mays beautiful chest
>>59467224>Ash gripping May's G-cup breasts while furiously plapping her giant, spats-covered ass>"Man, this reminds me of how great Misty's ass looked... too bad I only entered puberty after she left, so I'm only losing my virginity now."
>>59467175If I was in Ash's place, I'd have a raging hard on.
>>594672534kids leaving an entire sex scene in Pokemon just so they can reference MistyNormal for them since Pokeshipping is literally the only time the show used the word "sex"
I now wish AG was way more heavy-handed with pushing Advanceshipping, but doing so gradually as the series went on, only because 4Kids would try to edit out or recontextualize shit until Ash and May are confessing their love for each other 100 episodes in and 4Kids just has to go "Fuck" when they get the dubbing materials in the mail and realize they have to retcon their entire AG dub up to that point.
>>59467274It would be funny if it ended up like the Hikaru situation in Medabots where the dub would be forced to correct itself based on a late game plot twist
>Fuck I love Misty so fucking much guys fuck fuck fuck>ACTUALLY NEVER MIND I LOVE GIANT TITS NOW
>>59467292Literally me when I saw May for the first time as a kid
>>59467282It had to do that with Brock's not-dead-after-all mom anyway.
>my busty, curvy wife and our child
>>59467168>ctrl+f misty>7 resultsIt seems my superiority has stirred some controversy. Oh well!
>>59467301Don't you have death threats to send to anime directors?
>>59467301Literally having a scene where Ash and Misty tell May and Max to stay out of the action was diabolical honestly. Americans were obsessed with this fucking ginger
>>59467274Maybe, but then the general's quality would sink down to /dg/'s and /ss/'s. The reason these generals are chill is because the AniMay fanbase has been able to process the final stage of copium (acceptance) better than the rest of the other major female characters in the anime.
>>59467168>pls dont post ai>posts obvious ai
>>59467300Manaphy is so lucky.
>>59467295This was me when I saw Dawn for the first time. Misty was ugly, never cared much for her.
>>59467306>First ever American Pokemon anime production>plot is that some literal supervillain invites Ash and Misty specifically to come see his inventions >How he knows them or how he sent these letters is unknown>ash doesn't see anything wrong with this>everyone's voices sound like utter shit out of nowhere >except May who sounds more like a sexy woman all of a sudden>va literally didn't even try to make her sound like a kid >When May returns later in the film and saves Misty she goes "See, I can make the right decision after all" as if that's a conflict she had with Misty >the villain tries to kill everyone with a fake mewtwo and then fails and kills himself
>>59467318Professor Oak is also randomly a champion tier trainer out of nowhere for this one hour because these people don't know the characters at all.
>>59467301>superiorityHow long does it take for the Misty Monday threads to hit bump limit again-Oh, wait. You had to jump-start them again after several kept dying lmao
>>59467305>death threatsOh no! I hope no one said anything mean about May - her fans are as delicate as mayflowers!
>>59467322YOU ARE LITERALLY GOING TO SET US BACK THIRTY YEARS
>>59467301You don't get it, Misty sunk their fake ship that died the moment Drew was introduced.
Ash and Misty could have the perfect character dynamic but in the end of the day I like boobs and May has plenty in that department
>>59467317Why did seeing Dawn trigger you to start loving large breasts?
>>59467318>>59467320It's pretty crazy to think 6 seasons of dubbing a TV show and they still apparently didn't know the characters they were (re)writing. They literally wrote a movie that would've been too fanfic for fanfiction.net.>b-but it was actually written by Shinzo Fujita, veteran Pokémon writer who'd been around since "Pikachu's Goodbye" and would continue till the end of XYZ!4Kids obviously just faxed a wishlist to Japan and Fujita was stuck trying to make it work.
>>59467331Let Ash have Misty and I'll take May for myself.
>>59467323Really? I had no idea the burns were that bad. Quick, put these on the affected area pronto!
>>59467333Nah, seeing Dawn's design made me okay with May getting replaced.Both are still good
>>59467088I assume this post is why we suddenly got invaded
>>59467337Ash can have Manaphy Mommy May, as long as I get to have all the others.
>>59467343>obvious bait thread (the OP probably isn't even a Serenaposter but just wants to stir shit for a giggle)>post a trvke>insecure Mistyfag invades and starts posting copium in between tearsYa hate to see it
>>59467343It's funny cause we were discussing the ship's plausibility for a moment until 4kids' hijinks got brought to light.
>THUMP
>>59467343>suddenly got invadedSuddenly as in 30 years ago, invaded as in here first, perhaps?
I thought last thread was pretty fuunny, and i learned some things about localizer biases too. It really is surprising how unprofessional that business is.I grew up a Pokeshipper all the way, but I stopped caring right around the time May left. She is objectively sexier than Misty. I don't get the point in baiting about it. It's not like Pokemon is going to show up with a Pokemon: The Last special and reaffirm shipping. What I'd really like to do is fuck May's fat tits
So is this thread some larping refuge for serenakeks hiding behind a more relevant character to attack misty without being laughed at or are you guys legit dye in the wool advanceshippers that somehow exist in 2026?
>>59467354It's all fun and games until the Shudo comments are brought up and the scale of the 4Kids edits is revealed. It happens every single time Pokéshipping is relitigated, regardless of the thread. Eventually they'll try to push back with some select sub episodes or that one Chronicles episode.
>>59467357>I don't get the point in baiting about it. It's not like Pokemon is going to show up with a Pokemon: The Last special and reaffirm shipping.They need to "confirm" Serena was the canon romantic interest just as much as Naruto needed to "confirm" Hinata was with that movie. They were literally married with children in the manga when that movie started getting conceptualized.
>>59467359Dude, I don't care about shipping, I want to have sex with May. It's just objectively funny that the english dubbers were extremely persistent on playing up Misty as an endgame love interest when May was firmly establisheed as the current lead.You could probably prove to me with science and facts that Misty is the best narrative love interest for Ash and I wouldn't argue with you because I honestly don't really care about the conflict, I just like following along and learning new facts about the anime productionBut what i'm really interested in is REproduction with MAY
>>59467359>or are you guys legit dye in the wool advanceshippers that somehow exist in 2026?There are AdvanceShippers here, but all May ships coexist here in relative harmony.
>the Mistyfag thinks everyone calling his shit out is secretly SerenaSAD
Melody and Giselle are the real threats anyways
>>59467367>But what i'm really interested in is REproduction with MAYSomething (You), Ash, Drew, Brendan, and Wally can all agree on!
They're makin' fun of ya, sis.>*dolphin noises*
https://files.catbox.moe/o3xux3.mp4It is funny that 4kids just didn't get the opportunity to dub this. They would have gone insane
>>59467378>"Sis, I'm starting to think Ash might have sexual intentions with you. I don't think I trust him anymore.">May is 3 months pregnant
>>59467367>I want to have sex with MaySpats on?
>>59467381Holy shit that dialogue writing is ass. Americans should never be allowed to write a Pokémon script again.
>>59467381It just sounds wrong with those voice actors
>>59467390That dialogue would've still sounded wrong with Veronica Taylor and Rachael Lillis.
May, your chesty milk muffins would draw Dr. Evil's attention. I'm going with [DUBBING STUDIO'S PET CHARACTER] alone in the dark evil crypt of evilness so we can have scenes standing next to each other for shippers to argue about
>tfw you're elected chairman of the skitty bitty titty committee
>>59467403>HER TITTIES AREN'T SKITTY BITTY AT ALL,
>>59467400>when you have to take a break from having sex with your new busty friend because the writers decide to bring back your old flat-chested friend to stand next to you for an hour in a TV movie for old times' sake>fortunately you can return to having sex with your new busty friend the moment the movie ends
>all these titfags>meanwhile I just want to rub my face against her spatsI feel so alone.
>>59467418May is for us all.
>>59467421Not for me. I'm way too small to make it past those cheeks.
I'm sorry but the May/Misty interaction in the second act bugs the hell out of me. It weirdly implies that May had something to prove to Misty and it wasn't set up at all. https://files.catbox.moe/xzpczy.mp4
>>59467421still funny that an anon did a SoP to this and it got deleted
>>59467430Sounds like it's just bad writing. Either that or 4Kids had a whole Misty vs. May subplot included with their draft, and Fujita just didn't include the scene because it was too cringe even compared to the rest of their draft. So instead you just have this random resolution to a subplot that wasn't introduced.
>>59467433it's a good thing Misty fell in the one area where there is space for may's boobs to stick in between the fucking concrete blocks
>>59467433>May tells Misty that she and Ash have had and plan to continue having sex>Misty's response determines whether May lets her live or die
>>59467433>horny animators find a way to horny even in 4Kids fanfic commissionNice
>>59467433>>59467439>Before I pull you up, why did you and Ash tell me to stay back?>What do you mean before you pull me up?>Answer the question Misty>Like I said, you had to guard the lab>"Guard the lab">Yes guard the lab! Please pull me up!
>>59467435I'll chalk it up to bad writing, but it really does sound like a cut plot point>There see! sometimes I can do the right thing!Said as if Misty scolded her earlier. This is their second interaction in the entire film. Misty just plain ignores May when they first shows up and brags about having a special trainers invite.
>>59467439>Do you at least use protection?>...Yes, I guess you can call it that>Then I guess it's fineSpats sex saved a life that day
>>59467433Get tf out of the way, May!
>>59467452Is there any indication as to whether this movie is supposed to take place before or after Misty and May meet in the regular show, and thus already know each other or not?
>>59467454May doesn't tell her that he pierces the spats anyway, does she?
>>59467471Absolutely after. When Misty and May met May still had Torchic, in the movie it's Combusken
>>59467476All right. So Misty is just randomly rude to May for no reason (the actual reason is 4Kids wrote a fanfic and wanted May to gtfo) and May is apologizing for shit that wasn't even shown in the movie?
>>59467444Kek moar?
I hesitate to ask, because the answer is obviously no, but since there is a subbed version of the Mirage special, is it any more tolerable that way, or are Rica and friends completely phoning it in, or does the better voice acting just draw more attention to the shit writing?
>>59467430You're supposed to read fanfiction.net's PokéShipping stories from around that date to understand the lore. They're canon in the mirageverse.
>>59467336I think it's safe to say the plot hears of the movie where specifically asked for and the writer filled in the dialogue The plot of this movie is definitely tailored to its purpose as an anniversary story, with the villain reading Pikachu's memory of all the previous movies to create a Mewtwo with every move and multiple legendaries Turning the previous film events into a plot device through Pikachu's memory was clever Its pointed out already but the movie draws attention to the fact that Ash and Misty in particular got invites as they both blast about it which feels 4kidsy. When they talk about calling the police Brock literally leaves to go do it in person and is just gone from the rest of the entire movie
>>59467488The Japanese version of an American special of a Japanese show ... this should be interesting. If I was less tired I'd try and watch it. I hope it's stored somewhere
May more like GAY
>>59467479Hard to tell. May sarcastically brags that sometimes she makes the right decision. It sounds like snark aimed at something Misty said about her but Misty literally did not talk to her aside from explaining why she has to stay outside. Honestly it's a small moment in a pretty shit movie. May is reduced to a device in the movie to stop Misty from getting killed. She barely speaks after the save
While Advanceshipping being a legit thing makes the concept funny for the usual reasons, it's actually even funnier if you picture a scenario where Misty is just being a total asshole to May over romantic feelings that May doesn't actually hold toward Ash, and upon learning this, Misty just feels shitty.
>>59467488Well I watched glimpses of it and the line May says in >>59467430 is>"When push comes to shove, I can pull it off!"Which... still sounds very off and has the implication that May is a incompetent character and is looking to prove herself.Also, they apparently left the opening unedited which makes it seem off with the rest of the special.
>>59467496>When they talk about calling the police Brock literally leaves to go do it in person and is just gone from the rest of the entire movieThat's foreshadowing for how the DP movies especially would find excuses to just write Brock out of the way because they were running out of ideas on how to incorporate him into the anime, hence him finally getting written out after DP ended.
Love May tushy
>>59467175Hatted May is especially a cute
>>59467522PLAP PLAP PLAP GET PREGNANT
>>59464855AG012 swimsuit
>>59467699Boners were made here
>>59467699Beach paizuri!
>>59467551Calm down Satoshi
>>59467529
>>59467433>"LONG LIVE THE QUEEN">drops
>>59467168Welp. If you haven't cranked your nob to May yet, this definitely will make you.
>>59467629this would be perfect if their faces were around 16 years old
May telling Misty that she intentionally makes her cleavage visible to Ash
>>59467433It's hilarious that Mays character design blatantly does not agree with the set design here so they just draw a portion of the bridge missing so her tits can fit
>Tells May to stay outside because too many people will draw attention>Ash and Misty go inside, draw attention, and job >Ash goes "FUCK, WE NEED MAY" >the effort put into getting a signal out to May nearly kills Misty feels kind of poetic
It's common knowledge that girls name their boobs. What do you think May named hers? Pic unrelated.
>>59468106Ruby and Sapphire
>>59468106Maymay and Maymaymay
>>59468104>>Tells May to stay outside because too many people will draw attentionThe main problem with that scene is how forced and OOC it is. The main cast generally didn't split up much in the series unless the situation demanded it or when they got forced to by one of TR's antics. There they had Ash making them split up on a whim and barking orders as if he was Batman in the Justice League. He does portray a level of bossiness in early AG, but even then it's a display of overconfidence at his skills, not a dynamic where he establishes himself as the leader of the group.
>>59468132I know the special was written by a japanese man but it definitely feels intrinsically western. The first thing the characters do when shit hits the fan is call the police. In the main series anime when Ash has to save the day he usually isn't presented as like a superhero leader barking orders to the rest of the cast, he saves the day WITH them. He isn't their "leader" even if he is in a friend group sense.
>>59468132The scene kind of feels like it was attempting to say Ash and Misty are on the same wavelength. Ash shifts to a serious face complete with a sound effect for the shift in tone and tells May to stay put, then Misty explains his reasoning without having to be told. It's really weird to portray Ash this way
I am late for yesterday's misty discussion but i wanted to poiint out that there was an american pokemon comic series with a ton of stories that is pretty obscure nowadays. In it Misty is explicitly in love with Ash and trying to get him to be her boyfriend in various ways, her sisters even give her advice on how. It got shut down and never referenced again because the writer turned out to be the kind of guy who might look at May and say too old if you catch my drift
>>59468135>I know the special was written by a japanese man but it definitely feels intrinsically westernIt was written by 4Kids, Fujita just did the script.
>>59468106Do guys name their balls?
>>59468141I remember for the PokeSpe manga's Viz localization in the early years, there was a localizer guy who got jailed for pizza. Same dude?
>>59468155>He doesn't name his balls
>>59468135Not to mention, the way the split-up was handled was intrinsically fanfiction tier. Ash just looked at the unwanted characters and straight up told them they weren't needed. Usually, the japanese writers tried to come with more convenient excuses to make the split-up happen seamlessly, like how Brock was written away in that special.
>>59468166The anime's writing has its highs and lows but it's interesting to see a serious case of mischaracterization
desu Fujita probably didn't care too much about the logic here and just gave 4Kids what they said they wanted. The special didn't even air on TV in Japan, it just got streamed online as a "hey, if you want it, here it is" thing after DP had already started and none of these characters were relevant any more.
>>59468104>Ash goes "FUCK, WE NEED MAY"Ash's penis finally reasoning with him.
>>59468080All part of the plan.
>>59467365They don't want to end Ash's story in such a final note. They evidently wanted to leave it open-ended for fans to form their own conclusions. The open-ended conclusion leaves enough gap for fans to fill in their favorite ships, but officially (and realistically), we're left to assume that Ash has been continuing his journey as he has always done. He's probably been traveling in Paldea and fending off TR's ambush during Horizons as always. We just don't get to see his story anymore.
Built for teen pregnancy
>>59468106Huey, Dewey and Louie>It's common knowledgeHuh?
Dawg the fucking speed of this general
While we're still on this, Misty's only party member in the movie is Gyarados who is kind of useless indoors
>>59468245Pokemon isn't a harem series, there was never meant to be some sort of big debate about what girl won. The entire idea that it was "left open ended for fans to come to their own conclusions" is just salty Mistyfags still acting like their "romance subplot" existed outside the dub they watched. You don't write a love interest like Serena and then act like viewers are supposed to think some other random girl that was never written as romantically interested in the mc is "just as legit a choice".
>>59468282Mistyfag here. This is correct. The average Misty fan just can't really cope with the fact that it's a non canon ship. The "hints" were all jokes because she's the only girl in the first group and the dub breaking character repeatedly to force an endgame. I will always see Misty as best girl but Serena won
>>59468282most people aren't really registering that the dub is not the authorial intent
May was built for giving handjobs while having her tits sucked
>>59468282>>59468289Exactly. Ash doesn't end with anyone. I'm just saying it's theoretically open enough for anyone to come up with their headcanon endings as long as it remains untouched, but that obviously wasn't their intention. It was their way of saying "Ash's journey is not over!"And yeah, as far as official statements go, AmourShipping is the closest to winning, given that it's the only one where the executives pushed and actively rooted for it, with some interviews even clarifying that their departure didn't necessarily mean the end of that ship and that they were fated to reunite eventually.
>>59468277I went to a game yesterday, and after leaving I refreshed the thread and suddenly there were 70+ new posts and we were well over the bump limit. When a spark is lit, the general can become very active, I guess. It seems like a combination of 4Kids' fanficy bullshit and Pokéshipping's very Western existence, the overall oddity of that Mirage special, and a dash Advanceshipping memeing brewed up a storm. Not much of a serious shipper myself, but I find the jokes imaging 4Kids haphazardly editing Pokéshipping into more and more overt Advanceshipping scenes, or even just completely unrelated scenes, to be pretty funny.
>Man, I really wish Misty were here to see me lose my virginity. She'd be so proud of me.
>>59467359>this thread some larping refuge for serenakeks hiding behind a more relevant character to attack misty without being laughed atLiterally just this, and it's always the same fucking guy who deflects criticism every time you tell him to fuck off like here >>59467084In past threads he won't always bring up Misty but will always bring up how Serenafags are some of kind of victim in some old internet smear campaign nobody cares about, shitting up /mg/ with Serena talk because nobody will listen to him in his dead Serena general.
>>59468304Yesterday I was the one who said that if 4kids could they would try to make a movie about pokeshipping so they could shove it into the later generationsI forgot that they actually just straight up attempted that until another poster pointed out that yes that is reality
>>59468316They also wrote that Pokemon Live musical, which was partially about Pokeshipping and just spelled the idea that Misty was in love with Ash out with zero room for debate.
>59468314>m-m-muh SerenaMisty lost, May won, cope nigger.
>>59468320Somehow I never realized Together Forever was meant to be a Pokeshipping song. The special ends with Ash giving his diamond badge to Misty and saying they will be together forever
>>59468316>>59468320I'm now picturing 4Kids still dubbing into DP and even BW and STILL trying to find a way to shoehorn Misty into dialogue akin to the Jirachi movie edit.>Ash: Castelia City has a bug-type gym? Misty would really hate this place.>Iris: Who tf is Misty?
>>594683334kids commissioning new flashback scenes so that Misty met Ash first instead of Serena
>>594683334kids dub is more entertaining as a standalone show but as a representation of the actual source material it's absolutely terrible. Just straight up fanfiction.
Bootylicious
>>59468339Whoever wrote the actual dialogue during the 4kids era was objectively superior at making it sound like people talking than whoever took it up after for the next 20 years. 4kids era pokemon dub sounds no different from an english speaking carton. The cost of that is faithfulness to the script. That said there is really no excuse for 4kids behavior with Misty. You don't see them doing that to May
Slop delivery
>>59467435>Either that or 4Kids had a whole Misty vs. May subplot included with their draft, and Fujita just didn't include the scene because it was too cringe even compared to the rest of their draft.I wouldn't be surprised if the original draft resembled Strong World. It randomly made this veteran pirate kidnap Nami and entice her to join his crew because.... reason? Shiki has no reason to be compelled into demanding Nami (some random girl from an upstart rookie's crew) to join him and could just basically declare her to be her concubine or even his crew's bicycle as one could imagine a pirate probably doing, but the story goes and pulls "an offer you can't refuse" moment even though it doesn't make sense. Luffy and his crew end up confronting Shiki to get Nami back à la Arlong Park and eventually beat him. Then the story then ends on this note: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaYlqejyWkAThe only difference is that Strong World was actually written by the original author. Anyway it'd be really funny if Mirage's original draft resembled Strong World's writing and got bluntly rejected by the staff/executives.
>>59468358it is suspect that Dr Yung invited ONLY Mist y and Ash to his lair to test his villainy
>>59468358to be his concubine*
>>59468339I'm trying to remember if the rest of their dubs were that rewritey. I know they toned down violence and gore in Yu-Gi-Oh!, but I don't recall them totally rewriting Yugi and Téa's dynamic for example. For some reason, they treated Pokémon like it was their own cartoon property and they were writing an original show rather than being supposed to dub an existing show with existing characters and existing relationships into English. The only thing that makes sense for shit like the 4Kids CDs with love songs or Pokémon Live is that, while the franchise was still at its height and effortlessly printing money in the US, Japan was willing to greenlight whatever bullshit 4Kids wanted to do, but the moment Pokémania was waning, that tolerance wore out and they shut that shit down finally. I can't recall where it was, but I think I was at a TPCi-era cast panel once and someone in the audience asked about the Pokémon Christmas Bash album among other things, and one of the TPCi people joked that its current obscurity comes from the fact that TPCi has been secretly buying up old listings of that CD and destroying them. Obviously a joke, but the overall suppression sentiment is probably real.
>>59468363Didn't he also invite Professor Oak?
>>59468368Yugioh was even more heavily rewritten than Pokemon.
>>59468344As was mentioned last thread, that was the TPCi sacrifice. In exchange for more literal script adaptation, added slang and euphemisms aside, you lost the natural delivery that came from 4Kids due to them just rewriting the show when they felt like it.
>>59468347cute
>>59468368Pokemon is the most faithful 4kids dubThe rest are horrifically changed
>>59468372this is why i'm mixed when people debate about dubs, mot njust pokemon dubs but old dubs vs new dupsThe conversation is always like>Why do new dubs sound like that breaking bad parody>why don't characters in new dubs speak like actual humans I don't think people realize that this is literally because old dubs just massecred any part of the script that didn't work up until around maybe Naruto. Entire interactions and plots got completely replaced. Just look at the Latias movie. The story is NOT THE SAME as the original. A story translated from Japanese to english can't sound natural and be faithful at the same time. Something has to give.
>>59468368The problem is exacerbated when you remember the 4kids dub is the basis for all international Pokemon dubs and not just america
>>59468371>>59468381That genuinely terrifies me. I'm kinda glad that Pokémon and Yu-Gi-Oh! were the only 4Kids shows I ever really watched, so I only need to make time to eventually rewatch two shows (or at least the original Yu-Gi-Oh! series and the first 8 seasons of Pokémon) in order to "correct" my childhood misunderstandings.
>>59468401Sonic X was pretty notoriously mangled beyond recognition, especially the final season because of the amount of "dark" subjects like death. A character sacrificing herself to try and end a war is changed to her just running away
Would it have been more or less disastrous had 4Kids, instead of trying to prop up Pokéshipping years after Misty was gone, decided to just repeat their process afresh with May by shilling Advanceshipping just as hard, making dialogue edits, and OC material in the form of songs and specials? Only to once again get fucked, this time by the existence of Drew and later having to move on to Dawn?
>>59468368>d they were writing an original show rather than being supposed to dub an existing showMy pet theory is that a lot of the disinterest normies have in the later seasons is because many episodes have no ofificial english sub and the 4kids dub of the original show is just plain more coherent than the english dub of something like XYZ which makes sure to use the most literal and simple language possible so little kids can understandThe 4kids dub is popular for having things like Jessie subtly implying that James is gay to mock his moltres outfit. The 4kids dub killed the characterizations of the actual characters but replaced them with their own. The TPCI dub just sort of machine translates things and slaps on slang
>>59468368Mix between Pokemon's international debut being very important to Nintendo and related rightsholders and this being an era where Japanese rightsholders just didn't really care what foreign licensees did with their shows, they were just happy they wanted to pay for them in the first place. Nobody involved with the Pokemon anime's writing was paying any attention to what kind of rewrites the dub was making because why would they? The idea of a shared fanbase didn't really exist at the time.In an alternate universe, Johto is followed by what's essentially XY, just with the characters replaced with their gen 3 counterparts, so we get a Haruka who has Serena's lines and story, with a flashback to the summer camp and a kiss at the end of the gen, all while the Japanese writers are completely unaware that they just wrote out the character the dub had made into a love interest before introducing the actual love interest. The dubbie chimpout would've been amazing.
>>59468421That's why most of the criticism of the TPCi dub has been, not about the scripts, but about music replacement. 4Kids also did music replacement, but because their script edits were so much more significant, it was the bigger topic of discussion, and the music discussion became like a side point. Like, you're going to have a sub-optimal experience watching the TPCi dub, but it's not going to make you 100% misunderstand whole characters or plots. You'd watch the sub to get a better overall viewing experience, not because you need to find out what the plot and characters actually are.
>>59468421It's mostly just because Pokemon stopped being cool in the west during gen 2, so the normalfags just stick to the stuff they remember watching as kids instead of looking up all these hundreds of episodes they never saw.Dubs are for fags anyway.
>>59468418It would have been spectacularly disastrous, but it happens pretty early so it'd have had less build-ups compared to PokéShipping.
>>59468427>In an alternate universe, Johto is followed by what's essentially XY, just with the characters replaced with their gen 3 counterparts, so we get a Haruka who has Serena's lines and story, with a flashback to the summer camp and a kiss at the end of the gen, all while the Japanese writers are completely unaware that they just wrote out the character the dub had made into a love interest before introducing the actual love interest.Absolutely devilish. The ugly laugh I just got from this is embarrassing.
>>59468435Facts all around. The 4kids dub is more entertaining, but if you actually take it for who these characters are you will just be wrong. The TPCI dub is extremely stale but it won't confuse you on anything except maybe the names
Man. I don't think I've ever seen a 4kids thrashing as thorough as this.
>>59468450*sigh* not again... *unzip*
>>59468454May fags are surprisingly well informed in the history of the infamous AG dub transition Most Pokemon fans are spiteful about it but May's character wasn't changed all that much so we didn't really lose much on our end. and can look at it objectively. 4kids disappearing meant the end of forced Pokeshipping hints though
>>59468463Mayfags, by their nature, tend to be older fans that didn't drop the series in asshurt the minute their girl was written out. A thread like this is where you're most likely to find people that know their shit about the majority of the anime.
Viz also committed Sapphire abuse by censoring Pokemon shit, preventing her from playing in shit the way her heart yearns to do.
>>59468467Viz's Pokespe is cancer, but at least that series had an uncensored earlier release so everyone knew what was being cut.
>>59468463/mg/ proves itself as the superior general once again
Refined character study on the potential and failure of the 4kids dub on mg It really gets overpraised in a lot of corners of the fandom and that does come down to whoever was scriptwriting doing a good job with the dialogue but it is still an unfaithful dub
>>59468450I always think back to 4Kids' aborted "uncut dub" project with Shaman King and Yugioh. DVD releases with the original Japanese footage and thus no paint edits, all the original music including the OP and ED with subtitles, and (mostly) faithful script translations but performed by the 4Kids VAs. Had they had the money and public interest to do that with Pokémon to completion (at least of the OS), would that have eventually displaced their original dub as kids grew up or would it have fallen into obscurity as the less faithful dub kids grew up on continued to overshadow it?Here's a Yugioh comparison video featuring that uncut dub.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtVHpY-oU4Y
>>59468475It's because we ban commies
>>59468450Fertility goddess
>>59468492>I'd be starving too much to have tits this big...like Misty!
>>59468465Advanceshippers also cooled down a lot after their show ended, rather than continuing to be aggressive. And after May's VA got that throat disease, the acceptance that May would never return led to an acceptance that their ship would always be confined to their fanfic memories, and they were okay with that. This is also why a surprising amount of shippers tend to have Advanceshipping as a secondary ship to their main one. Either it's old Advanceshippers who moved on to someone new but still keep their original OTP as precious to them, or it's other shippers who feel unthreatened by Advanceshipping and so ship it purely for fun.
>>59468500It helps that AdvanceShipping had a lot of surprisingly high quality fan arts back in the days. Any Pokémon fan during the 2000s almost certainly got exposed to SatoHaru fanarts.
>Mistylol
>>59468510Suzuko almost single-handedly grew that ship into existence. Every early SatoHaru AMV on YouTube was just a compilation of their art set to a pop song. All the SatoHaru forum threads were people posting that same art. I don't know if there's ever been a similar situation since where one single fan artist exercised so much influence over the fandom.
>>59468277Welcome to the best girl and her thread.Unlike the dead threads, such as Dawncucks or Mistyfags, us May connaisseurs are active, as she deserves our attention.
>>59467168May lesbian breastsucking with other pokegirls after she puts a cock cage on your dick.
>>59468537>>59468541>>59468543CUTE
>>59468558>as she deserves our attention.and we deserve her tits
>>59468572The bad ending for Ash. (He, like the rest of us, got lured in by titties.)
>>59468575I would settle for her sitting on my face.
>>59468585fair enough
>>59468585I'd suffocate happily
>>59468552>I don't know if there's ever been a similar situation since where one single fan artist exercised so much influence over the fandom.No kidding. I've yet to see anything similar in other fandoms.
>me reading this and the previous thread
>>59468619You are trans?
lol
There is honestly something weirdly interesting about 4kids going out of their way to try and canonize a pairing that was on its last legs and never officially recognized in japan UNLESS you count Red as an incarnate of Ash
>>59468277>Dawg the fucking speed of this generalshipping cancer spam
>>59468683It makes significantly more sense when you realize 4Kids just treated Pokémon like any other Saturday morning cartoon, and didn't foresee that it would later swap out members of the cast. Shipping the male and female leads of a cartoon was pretty standard, and so they (wrongly) felt safe in their meddling.
>>59468692Misty lost and 4kids lost
Sapphire, don't look!
>>59468683I assume they were still operating with the idea that Misty would return to the show soon. I don't think 4Kids was ever all that aware of how the video games worked and that Misty was just a random boss from the first one the anime gave a lot of attention due to there not being any female characters with a bigger presence in that game .
>>59468700to give them the benefit of the doubt, the adult not-misty from the first movie trailer and the fact that OS repeatedly acknowledges the passage of time is difficult to ignore. You wouldn't know this was a cyclical show with a comic time scale until Black and White confirmed Ash is still ten years old.
>>59468700To be fair, Shudo initially assumed a 1.5-year anime, so 4Kids had no reason to expect the anime would outlive them as a company.
>>59468705>the adult not-misty from the first movie trailerNobody at 4Kids had seen that
>>59468726People give 4Kids (and for that matter TPCi) way too much credit for seeing things fans see. They see what the Japanese send them in advance, and even the English VAs are either watching the fansubs like everyone else these days or aren't seeing the episodes they dubbed until everyone else does when they're released by Netflix. People seem to act like 4Kids or now TPCi are intimately plugged in to the Japanese writers' room.
>>59468726WHEW can you imagine if they did
>>59468639>live 4kids reaction
>>59468639This is a pretty great comic for capturing the whole thing in a nutshell
>Original: Ash gets surprised when he realizes a girl got infatuated with Brock.>Dub:https://youtu.be/ybYJh-hyW8I?t=186
>>594688374kids is genuinely so fucking funny because they will just shove in pokeshipping in places that don't even function. This scene confused the shit out of me as a kid. I like to think she is simply saying they will get married TO PEOPLE some day but even if thats the case its just a random thing to put in the scene and gien 4kids track record with Misty's character I would just assume they decided to make it a scene of her thinking out loud since the same episode has Brock almost catch on to her interest in Ash in another gag
>>59468837This upload has almost 1 million views and the views spike at this scene
>>59468837>>59468882>>59468902PokéShipping is such a fraud holy shit lmao
>>59468837>>59468902To Misty's credit, she did have great hips.
>>59468907Pokeshippers should watch medabots. It's the same dynamic but with actual intent behind it
I love May's face, tits, butt, and thighs
>>59468912Her hips got much fatter in Journeys
>>594689244kids would turn this into a love confession scene
>>59468929My sense of humor is broken. I have laughed at each and every one of these 4kids hypotheticals
>>59468936Holy booba
>>59468936It's just wasn't that far-fetched for 4kids to do that. One Piece fans used to make similar jokes back in the days.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Obrbj8g6OJI
4kids was so attached to Pokeshipping they forgot to censor May's breasts
>>59468882>since the same episode has Brock almost catch on to her interest in Ash in another gagWhich was also just dub bullshit, the original scene is just that super common anime joke about a young girl acting like an expert at love only to admit she doesn't actually know what she's talking about since she's never been in love herself once pressed a bit.
>>59468924God I hate this fucking art style and its ugly redesigns.
https://litter.catbox.moe/k9ox33ic07eti59c.mp4this bit from the analysis video will always be hilarious
>>59468907>PokéShipping is such a fraud holy shit lmaoit has a lot more going for it than Advance..Plus Misty returned to Ash in both SM and JNand theres no Drew to sink it
>>59469086They both had exactly nothing going for them, and I'm not sure why you think anons here care.
>>59469086>and theres no Drew to sink itDrew became a footnote after AG. He didn't compete in the Wallace Cup, and his last appearance didn't show him with anything involving May or viceversa.
This is why I only ship MayxBrendan.
>>59469158
>>59468999True, but I do like Misty's hair there.
>>59469086>it has a lot more going for it than Advance0+0 still equals 0 senpai
>>59467699uooooh
I wonder sometimes if the reason Misty leaves first out of the group at the end of Journeys is to prevent a situaton where she is the last to say goodbye inviting shipper autism
>>59469284Maybe, but Brock's always been the last one to say goodbye with Ash.
>>59469284I don't think the writers have any idea there's all these insane Mistyfags in the west operating on shipping autism because of dub lies.If they do, they probably wouldn't have brought her back at all.
>>59468999I prefer Misty's JN design over her original one.
>>59468999I think the characters look good enough, except for Ash himself.
>>59469317Mental illness
any porn comics of May losing fights on purpose and fucks whoever she loses to but over time puplip got sick of her shit and starts evolving and winning against her will but then may realizes she can just askc-cups will be plenty for her size
>>59469404Lucky Satoshi
>>59469313They still brought her back after her Westoid fans threatened Yajima on Twitter, but you could tell they tried to do as little controversial shit with her as possible.
> may image with giant tits> have to scroll down a fucking mountain to see another may image with giant tits?What the fuck are you troons even talking about?
>>59469510This, post more of Haruka's boobs
>>59469510Laughing at 4Kids
>>59469699No...
>>59469699>when you were waiting for him to say he loves you, but instead he talked about Misty again
>>59469774I don't stand a chance against them.
>>59469998bro was one digit off
>>59470524KEK
>>59470524Same vibes in the show
Ash never made the mistake of telling May to stay outside ever again
>>59470563>AI slop>sources cited are Reddit and YouTube videosFucking grim.
>>59470587He apologized for his rudeness by eating May's ass and giving her foot massages.
>>59470585>Misty when she realizes Ash has found a new girl>this new girl has better tits and a better ass>Ash is probably finally going through puberty and lost his virginity to this new girl instead of herRough. Well, at least she has Tracey.
>>59470590Good. More busty Emerald May is required to correct the anime's mistake.
>>59470585>>59470616>You must be Misty, the girl Ash kept mentioning! He kept talking about you while we were fucking each other!
Doggystyle is easier with May than Misty because May is shorter
>>59470708It's also better because May has spats she keeps on.
>>59470708Standing sex is also way easier since May being shorter means it's easy for Ash to lift her and thrust upward into her as she clings to him.
>>59470707MAY NO DON'T SAY THAT IN PUBLIC
The animators accidentally drawing May taller than Ash in the first few AG episodes was Misty's ghost looming over the series
>>59470708Not for me. My penis is way too small.
>>59470707>He kept talking about you while we were fucking each other!Since May sounds positive about it, I'm going to assume it went like>"Man, I'm so glad I had my first time with you, May! Looking back, I think Misty had a crush on me, but her chest was flat as an iron! Thank God I only started puberty when I met you, or else I might've fucked her instead!">PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP
>>59470732It's a good thing they fixed it because a tall May doesn't suit their cute dynamic.
>>59470802Is there any species of May that's actually tall compared to the rest of the cast?
>>59470707>>59470745I'm still getting a kick out of both these and the 4Kids-esque edits that hastily push PokéShipping lmao
if only 4kids was obsessed with advance shipping
I always thought it was insane the dub added the word "Sex" in place of "Gender" for one of the already baity scenes from 2000. In the orginal they're just saying Ash and Misty are too young for that stuff but the dub has to use the word "sex" twice. I remember feeling like I was going to get in trouble watching it as a kid cuz most cartoons go out of their way to bury the mention.It's a nothingburger really but 4kids making that kind of edit is unusual. Of course it was tied to Pokeshipping
>>59471157Then PokéShippers would've sent death threats to their offices.
>>59471184Better than sending it to the nip writers that didn't do anything wrong.
>>59470732>>59470802I get the feeling they made her taller because they were working with the original RS character draft, which would have made her slightly older than Ash. The animation was probably finalized by the time they settled on making her younger than him.
>>59471225I love Serena's game character design but I couldn't take early anime Serena seriously due to it being literally the same design as the game but shortened down to be shorter than Ash. It makes her head look huge.
>>59467301>>59467321Why argue when you can enjoy the best of both worlds?https://files.catbox.moe/enkqi3.png
>>59471184Let's be honest. Pokeshippers aren't yuniquely evil. If Misty had kissed Ash at the end of Journeys we would have the exact same amount of melty from all the other shipfags
>>59471258I'll admit that much.Anyway, I blame 4kids rather than PokéShippers, though as other people already mentioned, they couldn't have foreseen the franchise lasting 30+ years and they wanted too spice things up. If Ash's adventure ended in Johto, most people would be assuming Ash and Misty would end up together, even the Japanese audience.
>>59471274Pokeshippers are people who grew up with the dub and were probably just offline enough to not know that the dub was unfaithful. With that impression it is really hard to imagine being in that frame of mind.Can you imagine if you got repeated official information stating that May was in love with Ash? That Ash was nervous keeping eye contact with May? You got a stage show about how Ash and May are destined lovers. A christmas album. Various CDs. A movie where May (vaguely_ professes that she will always love Ash with a music swell. An untranslated Trailer that everyone unanimously believed was of an Adult May with her and Ash's daughter because nobody was here to debunk it.Then, around the 2010s it comes to light that most of that was exaggerated. May never loved Ash. Despite the information overload, that was the result of 2000s Pokemon media not having much quality control in the west. It happened to other franchises. Marvel in the 2000s. Sonic in the 90s. You were just another on the list of westerners who had a complete misread of a Japanese franchise. Now a mature person would just accept this and move on with their life. It's just a cartoon. Who cares who Ash dates? But we aren't talking about mature people, we're talking about adult, pre-Go Pokemon fans. who are ALSO shippers who are ALSO genwunners. There are normie-nerds (The kidn of people who dress up as jessie and james with their significant other for halloween. High functioning autists who aren't super deranged) who grew up with the dub and were too ignorant to question it, so they would just think it's dumb to introduce a new love interest.There's turbo autists who grew a parasocial attachment to the characters and were waiting for years for Misty to confess like in Pokemon Live. Didn't happen. won't happen. All 4kids Facade. This is the death threat camp. This is a recipe to create irrational, angry shippers.
>>59471286Nice argument. Small issue:>multiverses
>>59471286It probably would have been even worse with AdvanceShipping cause of the last two movies adding real cute moments between the two of them. Not to mention, their shared ribbon.
ngl i would probably crash out if an adult character who looked exactly like may appeared in a film trailer and then the director of the movie came out and confirmed that it wasn't May. I would lose my fucking marbles
>>59471258Let's also be honest and admit that this scenario would've never happened because the writers would've never written a scene like that. The show they wrote and the show the Pokeshippers were obsessed with to the point of sending death threats did not have the same script.
>>59471425I'm going to play devils advocate very hard here.Throughout OS, there are jokes about Ash and Misty being boyfriend and girlfriend. Numerous shots of Misty hiding behind Ash or clinging to his arm. Even sleeping on his shoulder. Her first instinct when she's scared is to run to Ash. She gets angry at other girls for flirting with Ash which is extremely odd behavior for a girl who doesn't love him. When another suiter wanted to take Misty away from Ash, that guy called Ash an idiot for not concluding that Misty loves him.All of this is just the japanese version. Then pour on 4kids """""hints""""" on it and you have a stew of disaster.That's besides the point. Mistyfags seethed when Serena got the kiss, I don't think it's crazy to say other shippers would seethe if Misty got the kiss. Misty wouldn't get the kiss, we know that is the realty. The point isn't if it would happen. The point is that no particular group of shippers is a special kind of bad. We are all capable of great evil. Especially those who don't really care about character dynamics and just want to mentally possess Ash to fuck the girls. We're all guilty of that sometimes too. Arguably only Misty, Serena,and Dawn have fans who ship it because they genuinely believe it would be the narrative end point for the characters. I just want to fuck May's tits. I don't really care about if that would be characteristic for Ash.
>>59471432>The point is that no particular group of shippers is a special kind of badBut they are, we saw that when Serena got the kiss and it was really just them that shat their pants so hard. Everyone else may have gotten a bit pissy when Serena got introduced as the actual love interest because it meant their headcanon went from "not happening in the actual show but we can still pretend it'll happen in some unwritten future" to "Ash canonically got paired with someone else", but at the point the kiss happened Serena had been around for long enough shippers were accustomed to her. Mistyfags were the only ones deluded enough to think Misty would show up any day now and win Ash from this new rival because (insert dub bullshit here).
>>59471256>literally the same design as the game but shortened down to be shorter than AshBut Animerena's specifically taller than Ash. That's a consistent design element.
just post more haruka
>>59471286>>59471313>>59471432I just think Ash and May look nice together. Their designs complement each other better than Ash and the other girls' designs. That said, I accept that it's fanfic. I'll still choose to read the AG movies and DP return in an Advanceshipping light and ignore conflicting evidence. Sue me.
>>59471432>I just want to fuck May's titsWho doesn't?
>>59471432>>59471449I don't mind Serena as much as I mind the execution of AmourShipping, which I found underwhelming. I initially looked forward to Serena meeting with Ash, especially with her initially portrayed personality, but then she just ended being cookie-cutter nice around Ash and other characters (not that she needed to be conflictive, but I would have liked to see more variances from her).If they had made AmourShipping interesting, not only would I have accepted it, I also would have considered it the one true pairing over all the other AshShips. And it feels like later executives/directors ended up punishing AmourShippers since she's the only other girl besides Pre-JN Iris that didn't get a proper reunion in the next season after her own one or even a lengthy interaction with Ash (despite being the only character written as a love interest, shockingly enough). Even May, the character we all recognize got screwed over the hardest due to unfortunate IRL circumstances had a proper reunion with Ash. It reaches the point where the writers inadvertently ended up making Misty, May, and Dawn look like more serious contenders with the way they gave them proper screentime after their own seasons.>>59471542Me too. I'm just recognizing AdvanceShipping had a real potential at reaching a similar level of autism.
I wanted to fuck May's tits before I even understood the concept of copulation
>>59471601I'd sell my soul for May and Serena threesome.
I'll say the version of Pokeshipping that exists in Pokeshippers heads would make a very compelling story. Unfortunately it simply does not exist. Just go look up romance anime and sort by Coming of Age and Tsundere.
>>59471601>And it feels like later executives/directors ended up punishing AmourShippers since she's the only other girl besides Pre-JN Iris that didn't get a proper reunion in the next season after her own one or even a lengthy interaction with Ash (despite being the only character written as a love interest, shockingly enough)It wasn't shocking, the kiss made it very difficult to bring her back without the characters addressing said kiss in complicated ways. Fans really did like the return appearance she got, no matter how many salty Mistyfags try telling you the opposite.
>>59471601Most Ash pairings are just inferior versions of pairings you will find in other anime If you want Pokeshipping literally any tsundere story is just this except it actually happened. Really the show you're looking for is Toradora or Inuyasha. Ranmam Urusei Yatsura, Yuyu Hakusho. There are hundreds of these, thousands probably. This dynamic is so common that it's the reason people thought Misty liked Ash. Amourshipping is just as common if not more common in the modern day. The endgame pairing in 99% of Shounen anime will be some variation of this. Bleach and Naruto both have this.I actually can't think of an exact parallel to Advanceshipping. There's tons of friends to lovers but that would be condensing Ash and May's dynamic to an extremely broad trope.
>>59471625>Most Ash pairings are just inferior versions of pairings you will find in other anime trvke
>>59471601My problem with Pokeshipping is that it isn't the creator's intention. I LIKE pairings where they struggle to get along at first and then over time come to understand each other. That is fun but that is not PokeshippingMy problem with Amourshipping isn't Serena, it's Ash. His character gets lobotomized even harder into a videogame mascot personality until there is nothing left. The only character in this pairing is Serena. Ash basically becomes a self insert. Advanceshipping and Pearlshipping both just feel like friendships to me. There is definitely a lot going on with romantic potential here but they are just friends.
>>59471617>Fans really did like the return appearance she gotNo one thought it'd be their last on-screen interaction. I think it'd have made more sense to have Dawn and Serena swapped during Ash's battle with Leon. They could have sent Serena away right after the battle like they did with Dawn. Everyone would have understood that Ash and Serena were still going to be busy with their adventures a little while before addressing the elephant in the room.
the very concept of serena encountering OS-DP Ash
>>59471698I mean, when you look back on it, Ash is far more commonly a shithead to people who were being shitheads to him in the first place.
>>59471698Serena having her Ash reunion with OS Ash is still the fanfic I'd like to read. Expects a white knight, gets a shithead loser with severe insecurity about his lack of skill and overinflated self-confidence. >>59471625>>59471647Advanceshipping is a mentor/newbie dynamic.
>>59471760Kanto is a very mean location compared to Kalos for some odd reason. Hoenn is full of crazy people so Ash rarely actually came across as an asshole. It's hard to describe. The people in May's generation were less hostile than the Kantonians but also really cartoony and eccentric. There have to have been like 5 cults in Hoenn without even counting the evil teams
>>59471794>Kanto is a very mean location compared to Kalos for some odd reason.Tokyo mixed with Shudo's own cynicism.
>>59471794>Japan is a very mean location compared to France
>>59471794>>59471820Pocket Monsters before being neutered.
>>59471695>They could have sent Serena away right after the battle like they did with Dawn. Everyone would have understood that Ash and Serena were still going to be busy with their adventures a little while before addressing the elephant in the room.Then the Koharufag would just troll the Serenafags like he does the Dawnfags now
>>59471820>KantoAsh is bullied by nearly every random stranger he encounters. Even the nicer ones are a little standoffish. The doctors are negligent. Multiple grown adults flirt with children. Physical violence is common. Brock hits Misty. Misty hits Ash. Many people try to physically strike each other. Even the nicest Gym Leader, Erica, is a bit of an insecure dick. Don't like her perfume? Banned. No she doesn't care if you're ten years old. In fact most adults in this region have no issue just straight up insulting little kids to their face. Crime everywhere>JohtoHonestly most people here are pretty relaxed. It's kind of boring >HoennHighest concentration of wacky weirdos. You have a Togepi cult. A Huntail cult. Furries. The meanest non-criminal here is a gay bully.The people here are probably used to weird mystical shit. We get the only example of a timeskip adult version of a modern characterAlso the boobs here are insane>SinnohEveryone here is reasonable for the most part. Much fewer quirky supervillains compared to Hoenn and not covered in assholes like Kanto>UnovaA lot of people eyerolling at Ash for being a stupid 10 year old even other 10 year olds. Nobody is hitting each other at this point though. The people here are as wacky as Hoenn.>KalosThe meanest non-villain here just wants to tease Serena. Even the rivals are pretty chill. >AlolaThis is where we actually see adults treating children like they are kids who need to be taken care of by adults
>>59471841At least /dg/ wouldn't have gotten ruined
>>59470732Only in the first episode, AG001.
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