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Monkey See Monkey Make You Do Edition

Pokémon Champions is a free to play online battle simulator available on Switch and mobile. It features ranked, casual and private battles for both singles and doubles, and will be used for VGC tournaments in 2026.

>News
Enter HAJ1MAR1G1FT for a free 100 Quick Coupons and CHAMP10N for a free Machamp.

>Resources and useful links
Community Tournaments usage data: https://pikalytics.com/
Ladder usage data: https://pokechamdb.com/en

New Player Guide(NEW PEOPLE READ THIS):
https://rentry.org/pcg-guide (now taking suggestions and feedback)
Anon made guide for brand new players to make a viable team with the starting pokemon: https://teamsheet.gg/t/sample-beginner-reg-b-vl3698

Quick FAQ
>Do I need my own Pokémon to play?
No, the game features a recruitment system, but transferring from Home is recommended to save time and resources.
>What makes the game so much more accessible than before?
All aspects of a Pokémon are customizable with VP, a currency earned simply by playing the game. IVs are also removed.
Ask in the thread if you want any specific Pokémon, and someone will respond.
>Is there single player content?
No.
>Do I need a Nintendo Online subscription?
No.
>What's the starter pack?
US$6.99 one time purchase for 50 training tickets (fully train for free), 30 Teammate Tickets (recruit Pokemon without using VP), 50 extra box space and the LGPE trainer music. Only available on Switch for now.
>Is anything locked behind a paywall?
So far everything gameplay relevant is also purchasable with VP. Only E-Floette require ZA transfer.

>/pcg/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread):
https://pastebin.com/d2FJZdPh

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>>59481743
Does pokemon-zone get its usage data from tournaments or a certain ELO threshold?
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dead gaem edition
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Going to run this team again on the new season, it take a bit of understanding how to use, but it works pretty well.
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Got my shinies using my old 3DS. Hell yes. I can even make my own now.
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>season ends in 4 hours
Who was the retard saying we had another month to go lol
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>>59481888
The season ends in 4 hours, the next set doesn't until next month.
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>>59481888
Actual retard lol
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>>59481908
Lil jeety here said season goes till September lmao learn english before u pipe up retard
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>unlike burn, there is no status that nerfs special moves
>no assault vest
>spatk harshly lowering moves have very limited distribution
special is undoubtedly king in this format, idk how to stop teams that lean into it
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Scammed my way into MB at the last minute with hard TR. Golurk and Drampa suck so bad I hate it
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>>59481961
Regular poison should debuff special attack since otherwise its just a worse toxic.
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>>59481961
We need special attack intimidate already.
Its been fucking 6 generations
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>>59482054
>"Occular Patdown"
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>>59482072
Could be something along the lines of "Mockery" or something
As if your pokemon was insulting the other.
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>>59481961
>physical is nerfed 80 different ways
>special is therefore intrinsically better
You didn't imply this, to be clear, but I've read this sentiment so many times.
Special attackers are the daddy's little girl of the two, and they're SO SMUG
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I wish they made Body Press but special.
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im ready for nothing to happen again...
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>>59482120
New battle pass with corbeau's accessories and jack shit other than that
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>>59482092
just don't give it to milotic please god
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lol are we seriously doing 3 seasons with no new mons or items?
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>>59481961
Would be great if we had frostbite instead of freeze hax, maybe then we could get an ice type will o wisp
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>>59482152
you get the pleasure to pay for new season pass cosmetics
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>>59481743
so many insta surrenders. are people trying to rush max points before end of m-b? and if they don't get a good start they forfeit?
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>>59482250
sometimes if an opening turn goes so poorly that their main answer to one of your threats gets KOd or severely crippled it honestly makes sense to just assume it's a loss and not waste everyone's time
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suggest teams to play for this "new" season brehs
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How long are maintenances usually? do they use the full 4 hours?
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>>59482287
M-Froslass with slush rush beartic
Featuring whimsicott and M-glalie who only exists to explode (people won't double protect turn 1 I swear bro)
And krookodile and sableye with quash
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You would not believe the lengths I went to bring my gen4 Staraptor into this game
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Shoutout to the absolute nigger who just waisted 20 minutes of my time with opportunist espathra
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>special Mchomp and faggot giraffe in TR vs kingambit and Archaludon
>arch protected last turn, chomp is on a sliver of health and TR is ending next turn
>I have girafarig out, surely they don't press sucker punch
>switch giraffe out for iron ball tyranitar to proc sand force and guarantee the earth power knockout into arch
>sucker punch into garchomp
Can't tell if the guy was a genius or a based retard
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>tilt from 1850 to 1760
>start playing teams with incineroar again
>regain 40 elo
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>>59482414
Probably a tard, I would've been like "fuck why did I do that" after clicking Sucker Punch and been like "cool it actually worked out in the end" if i was that player
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>>59482414
This might have been me kek what color jacket and shirt?
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Please get better pants/shorts options, some nerfs would be nice too if they aren't gonna edit the roster of pokemon and items
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Guess i'll try to get to MB with metaslop seeing as there's pokemon that need the "win x games with y" bonuses and then i'll try and make another creative team
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Anons, I’m quite new to doubles/vgc despite all my years playing Pokemon games. One thing I find myself struggling with currently is knowing when to protect. What is the general thought process for when to double protect and also when to expect the opponent to double protect?
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>>59482520
Waiting out a turn fo TW/TR, chip damage like Burn for necessary KO, outplaying potential Fake Outs for sash, etc. There's no hard rules as to when you should double Protect.
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>>59482291
the ChompZ update is happening.
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>>59482580
Sorry but this current roster is staying the same until September 2
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>>59482605
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So uhhh, you guys play any other games?
I played the twilight princess pc port last month, that was really really good
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>>59482520
A big factor is the state of the match-ups on the field. It's very common to Protect w/a mon that has a bad match-up while it's partner tries to neutralize the threat.
To a degree you have to put yourself in your opponent's head. Look at your team from an outsiders perspective. What moves are you probably running? What would be the best way to disrupt you?
From my Trick Room team for example: the default game plan is to set up TR with Runerigus while it's partner Protects to take full advantage. But if my opponent seems likely equipped to focus down my Runerigus, I will Protect with Runerigus while it's partner tries to take out one of the threats.
Double protecting is not usually ideal because it robs you of momentum. But it can be useful in certain scenarios, like stalling out field effects like Trick Room or Tailwind or screens.
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>>59482697
splatoon raiders. pokopia just got an update too. might play that for a bit.
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>>59482709
planning on getting raiders once I finish my rune factory campaign.
how was pokopia? i was very tempted to getting it, but news of the dlc convinced me to just wait for that to drop first before the DLC version
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>>59482697
Nothing really. Kind of want to play Resident Evil 4 Remake again, if only to do the first section.
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>>59482716
pokopia was very fun. i like how they explored the idea of a post apocalypse in the Pokemon world with subtlety. also ditto transformations are the cutest things ever.
>I played the twilight princess pc port last month
do I need a copy of the game to play this?
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>>59482749
>do I need a copy of the game to play this?
if you are a prude, maybe.
just get it online somewhere, there is a million sites for gamecube games.
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Might as well ask for a 3rd family of mice during maintenance, doubt they'll fix the issue of needing multiples of the same mon and the VP system will be as jewish as ever
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>>59482754
i know that. i was more curious if I needed to source my own game files like the OOT decomp.
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>literally looks like a thug
>doesn't learn sucker punch?
scraftykeks?
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Holy shit, they actually added nothing to the update. Not even a new song or anything. What are they doing?
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>>59482963
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>30 days or more
Wtf
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>one extra month of this
thankfully i have the gym leader shit and the draft to keep me catered, but cmon now
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> 252 SpA Life Orb Garchomp Earth Power vs. Lvl 50 252 HP / 252 SpD Archaludon: 556-658 (282.2 - 334%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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I told you niggers it would be nothing else but a new battle pass and corbeau's clothes
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>>59483026
What level did you set Garchomp as
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>>59483031
Ah wait I think I might be retarded
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>>59483032
why arent you using the pikalytics calculator by default?
>32 SpA Life Orb Garchomp Earth Power vs. 32 HP / 25 SpD Archaludon: 159-190 (80.7 - 96.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
it still does a fuck ton
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I think it's time for me to make a new team. Not that my old ones weren't working but just for variety.
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>>59481783
Post EVs plz. Want to use the shiny Mamoswine a friend traded to me back in XY but never found a use for.
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its dead, jim
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>>59482345
Don’t have a shiny one but do have the one I nicknamed Biggs and caught in a level ball in HG. Also nice to see someone else using titles on their mons.
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>>59482855
If it’s for Dusklight the answer is yes but it isn’t hard to do. There’s plenty of YT vids on it.
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holy fuck I need to take a week before playing again apparently after the reset
even ultra ball is full of the most faggot strategies right now
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>>59483085
like what?
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>>59483085
You should spam spread moves and mindlessly faceroll into masterball
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Special garchomp is such a cope for bad players my sneasler just ate an earth power at 85%. It really does show how bullshit arch and incineroar are though where shitters have resorted to off the wall sets to get around them
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>>59483132
Wait until you see someone skill swap levitate onto their Sylveon
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Just got my ass beat on my first poke tier fight. It was a chinese guy with M floette and Grimmsnarl lead (ran barriers, scary face and spirit break) and a matcha at the back. I have no idea what his 4th is bec the matcha killed me. My next fight was a bot. The next one was another chinese troon with G.slowking TR and chilly reception, M.Crab, Incin and Gambit, which i managed to beat with Aegis, Grimm, Pelip and Mpert which i just put together this afternoon.
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>>59483134
I dont understand the Aegislash.
Okay you are just playing rain, but why the aegislash, what sort of threats does he remove for rain? where is the synergy
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>>59483138
After that first fight i just wanna kill m floettes, sinistchas and everything that can be broken with sacred sword. There is no thought to my teams i just put them together as i go and learn from my fights. Too lazy to look up actual comps and just wing everything. Also wanted to run some sorta rain team this time after doing hard TR torkoal for so long
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>>59483138
not that guy but aegislash is an excellent fairy killer if your team struggles with them
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fkn hate maushold
is it follow me? is it pop bomb? is it beat up shenanigans? is it clean up? hell if I know
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>>59483153
>clean up in doubles
wut?
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>>59483153
Its follow me and pop bomb. I lost a champion entrance because a pop bomb hit 10 times without activating flame body AND got a crit
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>checking which ground type pokemon learns helping hand
>garchomp
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>>59483153
>>59483158
The worst thing about Maushold is the speed. Should not be one of the fastest mons in the game alongside that bullshit 10 hit move.
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>>59483153
run life orb weedcat
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>>59483012
>>59482998
Please understand, multi billion dollar company cannot add or make updates to a flagship app

This was Pokémon’s 30 year anniversary huh…
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>>59483053
I just discovered that titles are connected to ribbons and i could transfer stuff all the way from colosseum and get cool ones, might be worth the 3 bucks investment for home
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>>59481743
I love Oranguru but don’t really care for Doubles where it’s clearly designed to be used. Shame
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Name a pokemon, I want to try going to masterball with it.
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>chlorophyll venusaur with sleep powder
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>>59483328
Just recruit and take the first pokemon that pops up.
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just fought my first mega venusaur
what the shart this thing is unironically unkillable
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Accidentally sent my pepe back to the ranch whoops
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>>59483338
Psychic and flying
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>>59483051
It will take me a while to post all of them, but Mamo specifically is Adamant max attack, max S.Defence. It's main roll is stalling out Whimsicott tailwind. It's able to threaten Garchomp and can survive a CharY heat wave and kill it with Rock Slide.
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>>59483012
>there are people who thought that they had a plan for this game and they aren't just scraping by with the skin of their teeth
You could really tell from the state the game launched in, bare bones and glitchy.
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I am so sick of
the
FUCKING
FISH
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>>59483406
Hmmmm this season think I will run…
Charizard Venasaur Garchomp Basculegion Incineroar and Kinggambit
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>>59483443
Floette/Sylveon, Aerodactyl, or Archaludon are right there if you're feeling only 95% NPC rather than 100
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last respects should have negative one priority
a. because it's degenerate otherwise
b. it's literally called LAST respects so it should go last
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What if they made First Respects
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>>59483328
Clefable
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>>59483517
Hmm maybe make it a bug move... we need to workshop this
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I like matcha. Can I use sinistcha if I like matcha or am I a filthy meta slave regardless ?
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>>59483710
Women can use meta Pokemon it’s fine
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>>59483710
only traditional green tea from a ceramic cup enjoyers can use it without being metafags none of that starbucks matcha latte bullshit
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>>59483710
can you find the masterpiece form in the gacha?
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>>59483752
Guess I can't. I like my milk and honey, without it the marcha is too strong of a taste
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>No. 1 in Doubles
>No. 1 in Singles
KNEEL
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>>59483770
Try one of the alternate matcha that are really popular. Like genmaicha. Don't buy a big bag unless you've had it before because it's a very particular taste and there's a good chance it's not for you (and they only sell it in 1lb bags here)
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I like the funny fish
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>>59483517
>Move that gains power the more pokemon are alive
That's just beat up
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>>59483039
Any existing archetypes that you haven't tried, yet?
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All these years I thought shinies were the epitome of coolness but now rare ribbons and titles are the real flex. I never stood a chance.
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>>59483770
post bob and vagene
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>>59483822
I tried "sun" (basically just Charizard) and my singles team is rain. That's pretty much it. My second doubles team I had a tailwind setter. My first one I was raw dogging speed control and ignored it. Second one I stopped using Charizard though.
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>>59483827
>evolved a pokemon into its hisuian form before getting the galar or sinnoh ribbons
I'm so retarded
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>>59483875
You could have gotten Paldea ones too
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>>59483039
Often times, assuming the team isn't trying something retarded, it's your lack of knowledge of how the team works or it's match ups into others that is causing the problem.
I think you're blaming the tools when the tool is you.
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>>59483406
Toxicroak, Lycanroc, Samurott, Victreebell
all good counters that learn sucker punch.
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I just had a thought. It's more of a Home related one but this is basically the Home general too. When Fire Red and Leaf Green eventually get Home support what would the origin mark be? A leaf that also could look like a flame or maybe a Gameboy Advance? I'm leaning more toward Gameboy Advance that also encompasses Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald.
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>>59483887
What are you talking about? It's a new season and a longer one. I just don't want to use the same things over and over. It would get boring.
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Anyone ever use Florgres? I'm debating between raising a Bold healer or a more offensive variant for doubles.
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why even run quick guard if its not gonna work sneaser vs sneasler? i have max speed, quick guard shouldnt come in second
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Faint should work on ghost types
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>>59483822
Anyways this is everything I've hoarded so I'm open to suggestions
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>>59483827
Time to make curry in Swsh for 500 hours so you can have a shiny curry connoisseur anon
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I have no other modern pokemon game and I have not found a sinistcha from the ranch yet. KMS
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>Scarf Vivilion with Compound Eyes and Sleep Powder

This is a person who has experienced a tragedy. They have lived through something so heinous and soul crushing that it has put them in their worst possible timeline. Whatever they went through. I am truly sorry they had to go through such an ordeal. I'm praying for you. Whoever you are. I hope that you can heal and come back from the brink.
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>>59484068
It's a shame you can't trade with people by paying in VP like in GO.
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>>59484068
Throw some shitter up for trade on Home requesting the matcha and someone will probably fulfill it for you. You can also post it here and anons might help you. I don’t have the gen 9 games so I personally can’t get you one but others might
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>>59484095
Nah it's meta so he'd probably have to offer something also somewhat meta. Personal suggestion would be some fully evolved starter. It's probably not that hard to trade up to it though just would take time.
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>>59483886
Hisuians can still go to Paldea, so actually in progress or completed depending on which one
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>>59484068
>>59484094
>>59484095
Isn't there a way to trade with friends in home? I have a Sinus I can trade over home.
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>rank reset
>pokeball tier is sweaty af
I'm CASUAL leave me alone I want my comfy BOT games in pokerballs
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Anyone want to trade pentas, breedjects or apriball mons?

>inb4 caring about IVs
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>>59483959
I don't know how they can salvage Florges. Something with that high a stat total shouldn't be that mediocre.
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>>59484109
Just wait a week or 2 and all the good players will have made it to MB.
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>>59483972
try a mawile trick room team
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>>59483995
Took me just under 300 encounters, though it'll be a bit until they can go to champions no clue if my Shedinja's ghost curry mark will show up though
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>>59484185
I don't know how to build a trick room team. I was told here pure trick room is dogshit. I guess maybe I could include sand with Houndstone or Excadrill or something. And something else fast just in case.
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>>59484202
It's just like tailwind in reverse. You're over thinking it. You shouldn't and hopefully don't need to use it every game. Hard trick room is bad specifically because they need to use it every game and if you know that's their only plan and have 1-2 counters in your 6 to deal with them, you're going to ruin their day.
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>>59483827
May I humbly brag about my new old mons that I just brought up from my 3DS? I started playing Champions when it released on mobile and quickly realized that I needed external support to get the meta players as fast as possible. Also in learning this game, I realized like you said that titles and ribbons are the new status symbol, and that just drove me crazier wanting to resurrect my event pokemon and other guys who had been with me for almost two decades. So I spent weeks desperately searching through moving boxes that had been left unopened for 2+ years before I first found my Switch with Sword installed and then later my 3DS and a box for Animal Crossing that actually had Alpha Sapphire inside it. Both hidden in my sister’s old room. Thankfully, my ds already still had pokebank and transporter. I posted this guy >>59482345 who I caught myself in the glory days of gen4 action replay hacking. My favorite of all of them is this Japan exclusive 2016 Eevee with the birthday ribbon that I must have received in a wonder trade. It’s almost certainly a hacked mon, but it passed into home so idgaf. Some of my other favorites are the Steven’s shiny Metagross, Cynthia’s Garchomp, shiny Charizard Y, and pokeball Vivillon event Pokemon that I remember from my childhood. Honestly, it really tripped me out to look these things up and see the dates and realize how I’ve spent the overwhelming majority of my life playing these games. I also found a bunch of old pictures on my 3DS, and that was very heartwarming. I don’t have rare vintage cards, but I have these memories saved in the cloud now. Thanks for reading my blog.
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>>59484244
Birthday mon would have been way cooler if it was your birthday, but the Vivillon and Staraptor are pretty cool.
I don't know if they had the ribbons for them back then, but the 'trainer's pokemon' now have a title, like I have Liko's Sprigatito in Home. Not a fan of the new anime, but it's a cool title.
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>>59484202
Farigiraf is a great setter for it. Paring it with a FO user is great for getting TR off. I see Blastoise, Raichu and of course Incineroar a lot, but it all depends on what you want to run, but like this anon said.
>>59484243
Flexibility is key. Don't put all your eggs in one basket. Farigiraf is good even if you don't want to use TR every game. Armor Tail alone is worth the consideration.
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>>59484260
That is cool. I saw a Wolfe’s Incin, but I don’t have that. In gen6 the eevee came with the move Celebrate where it pops out of a present box and the game says “Congratulations, Anon!” which made me kek
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>>59484202
TR is good on the ladder people just complain because it makes them mad lol
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Someone here wanted to make a round meme team. Did it end up working? I was trying to brainstorm ideas but it seems too gimmicky. Prankster copycat memes get shut down by protect. So you can't slow round into prankster copycat round if the opponent protects.
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>>59484202
TR is either you get it off and win in 5 turns, or you don't and lose. You can't really half-ass it. An imposter Ditto with an iron ball is a great choice for any TR team if you can't think up of specific one to use.
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Are you guaranteed to always find at least some pokemon you don't yet own in the ranch or are there times you roll and only get a lineup of ones you already have
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>>59484338
I was running H.zoraoak with round for slyveon/primarina.
It works better when your opponent takes the bait and tries to fake out on the disguised zora and then you just kill the other pokemon before it attacks. You gotta get zoraoak to disguise into something thats a really good fake out bait. Or like, disguise as farigiraf and they don't fake out anyway.
But yeah its really memey. Funny when it works though.
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>>59484276
>>59484348
I collected a bunch of random things I thought would be good in trick room.
>>59483972
You can see here I have Farigiraf, Oranguru, Sinistcha, and a bunch of other random crap as potential setters like Cofagrigus and Slowking. And I got Torkoal, Camerupt, Golurk, Crabominable, Sylveon, and so on for attackers. It's just putting it together and maybe looking for things I'm missing.
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>>59481783
>no Aurora Veil
???
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>any kind of setup
gay
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Shit Dead Game
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>>59484361
Were those your only Pokémon that knew it? Practically everything learns it.
>Galar Slowbro learns it
Hmm. Could be diabolical.
As for future uses I'd laugh my ass off if Salamence learns it. I would unironically build a round meme team if it did.
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>>59484426
Practically everything learns it but normal isn't really an ideal attacking type and spamming a single target attack that for most of your mons outside of type changers like sylveon and primarina doesn't really carry and gets walls by ghosts and a lot of special tanks
So I also had a kleavor and a staraptor (people go to fake out kleavor a lot, thats usually what i had h.zoraoak disguised as)
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Let's hear it for 5 months of Singles Challenges!
It's fairly apparent they had no plans for this game post launch because there wasn't time to make them. The game at launch was buggy and prelaunch there were even bigger problems.
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The moment I enter Ultra ball, the game stops being fun. Fucking fish everywhere.
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>>59483897
do any of those sucker punches actually kill the fish?
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>>59484558
Hisui Samurott does I think. I used one a while ago I really liked him though I used ceaseless edge aqua edge and sacred sword (night slash is better but I like the animation)
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>>59484558
Max attack H.Sam does 99% against 0HP/0DEF
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>>59484557
If you hate it so much why dont you prepare for it
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>>59484558
Dusk Lycan with tough claws does.
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>>59484607
Who said I didn't? It's just not fun that's all. But it's to be expected. Higher you climb, more metaslop and less fun.
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I've faced more Delphox protect spam than I've faced basculegion sweeper
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If my garchomp uses rock slide and it misses one target but hit the other one, does it activate the double power on stomping tantrum?
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>>59484607
fish is probably the worst thing in the meta because it has such specific counters
more or less the only things that actually beat fish are:
- STAB sucker punch
- heliolisk (lol)
- focus sash on a foul play/shadow ball/etc user (irrelevant in sand and predictable to double target)

most of the other meta threats, even charizard, have a much wider variety of creative ways to counter them
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>>59484653
Even STAB Sucker Punch isn’t always enough to beat it, especially if they’re running a bulky fish. Only other thing that also works against it are heavy hitters under TR. Regardless, I hope the game starts banning Pokemon for use on ladder soon like they did that one time in SwSh.
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>>59484376
It's a very offence-oriented team, designed to be naturally faster than most pokemon and with just enough bulk to take at least one hit while KO-ing the opponent. Auroa veil doesn't really work on this team since A-nintales is usually a backline option and most of the main players are too frail for it matter and lose the momentum.
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【Mysterious Gift】"Gao Gaen" Distribution Confirmed

Pokémon World Championships Commemoration
August 28, 2026 (Fri) to 30 (Sun)
Pokémon Champions Receipt
Obtainable by watching WCS2026 on Twitch for 60 minutes or more
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>>59484699
No, thank you.
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Need another benisore thanks
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>>59484734
Merry Christmas
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Does anyone know the EVs on sitrus Basc
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stat spread on shell smash blastoise? is it just the usual 2/32/32 on hp/spa/spe or is there some secret sauce everyone else is using?
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>>59484786
>>59484802
Just go look at the most popular EVs spreads ingame.
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This was really tough.
>wanted Politoad
>kinda wanted a Fo3 Maushold
>but get golden shiny
anyone got a spare Politoad i can play around with? Also how do i even use Azu
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>>59484851
I have seen him used in singles, but it never does much
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Any ideas for a fun gimmick to go for in order to spice up this month's climb?
Should I try a fast Camerupt? Give Huge Power to Runerigus? Fish for OHKOs through Protect?
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>>59484699
I fucking hate this game
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oh my god why does EVERY FUCKING TEAM have farigiraf on it now, even the non trick room ones
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>npc meta
And the snake eats its tail.

>>59484875
Now the snake is deep throating it
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>>59484862
You should do the HP Runerigus. I thought about using Medicham for it. Fun idea for shits and giggles.
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>>59484875
>Unusual typing with few weaknesses
>Armor Tail is fantastic for doubles because it shuts down Fake Out, Sucker Punch and status moves that target it's partner with Prankster
>Good bulk and can hit decently hard depending on the investment
>Is cute
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>>59484875
because the team building sucks
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Remember that when you complain about Farig, this is what you're complaining about. They purposefully kept its stats mostly middling.
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no need for dubs to say that this is a nigger franchise that won't adhere to the image I want it to be in
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I am too mentally small to navigate this tailwind + trick room meta
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>>59484914
Taunt? Using those moves yourself?
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>>59484914
it would be neat if there was a poke that could imprison both
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>>59484895
Mediocre stats with an insane ability is still overpowered. And there are still very few viable options that OHKO it.
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>>59484862
Minimize sandaconda
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I wish raichu x was good, it has a fat ass
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Scarf fish is one of the most cock-sucking faggot behaviors in this game. Thanks GameFreak for 5 months of stale horseshit.

So much fun to require Sucker Punch
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>>59484920
>taunt
The most common tailwind setter is a prankster pokemon.
Who's also the fastest prankster pokemon making prankster taunting it unlikely.
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>>59484895
these stats are quite good for a non-mega with a broken ability
especially with very efficient spending in bulk via HP
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>wide guard gallade
I fucking can't with these meme sets anymore
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>>59484943
You just need to know how to use it better. Running Volt Tackle isn't worth it, it works better as a support mon.
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>>59484851
Azu can be used in one of two ways in VGC
>Belly Drum + Aqua Jet with Sitrus Berry
>Trick Room teams with a Life Orb or Mystic Water
I use the second one with a Mystic Water because Azu’s HP is okay at best so the recoil damage racks-up fast. Also gives you more move slots to play around with. Nature is Brave with 32 EVs in HP and Attack, then the rest into physical defence.
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singles 3v3 is so shit jesus christ
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>>59484979
japs woke up, its the worst time for singles
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>>59484895
Its middling defences are still really good with a 120 HP stat. The only Monster I know that can reliably KO it out the gate are Samurott’s Night Slash, Tyranitar’s Knock Off and Mega Kangaskhan’s Double-Edge. And those first two are under the assumption it doesn’t have a Colbur Berry.
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>>59484946
Don’t necessarily need that. A lot of people playing Whimsi seem to forget Talonflame exists and, for the few that do, forget Taunt is a move it can run.
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>>59484989
you dont even need to taunt whims with talonflame just delete it with dual wingbeat the one time this doesnt work is on a traumatized whims user that put all its stats on hp and def
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>>59484985
hell, even two strong neutral attackers often can't kill it because of the fucking sitrus berry
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>30 days left
Ok this time im parking singles in pokeball tier to max out vp and weeklies...
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>>59485015
30 days until maybe something happens...
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>>59484484
The only real use I can see is if you have it on something slow like Drampa or something fast like Pidgeot. Probably combined with trick room for extra fuckery.
>Mega Drampa
>Hisui Zoroark
>Sylveon
>Oranguru
>Galar Slowbro
>Mega Salamence maybe
But this is a weird team with too much overlap that probably won't pay off. And would get specially walled hard.
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>make team better against one thing
>makes it weak to another thing
>realize only a few specific pokemon can do both at the same time
>rinse and repeat until you have the same meta team as everyone else

competitive pokemon is gay
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armor tail should only protect farig, not its partner
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>>59484653
In singles people carry scarfed Meowscarada and Hydreigon for it. Of course they use shadow sneak mons like Mimikyu and Aegislash too. Sometimes Greninja. Basculegion being a hair faster than Mega Greninja and Dragapult only on level 50 is pretty crazy though.
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>>59485060
surely there's no way shadow sneak kills that thing even on max atk adamant aegislash
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>>59484568
>>59484577
Needs black glasses or life orb which is probably why most run those on it.
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>>59485071
Not reliably no. Needs swords dance. But some people have it. Mimikyu needs life orb and swords dance.
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>>59485019
They need to sell new or give out free perma slots. Maybe put that in battle pass. Im close to the 100 cap.
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>>59484748
Thanks and God bless
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Can the guy whose Incineroar's Quick Claw activate 3 times in a row kindly fuck himself?
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>>59484914
Talonflame for whim, meowscarada + a heavy hitter for giraffe
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Need another giraffe of 4mss please
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>>59485166
best i can do is tiny giraffe
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The Japs sure do love their resto chesto in singles
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>switch in pelipper to set rain
>protect/wide guard
>switch in sinistcha to heal
>protect/matcha
>switch in pelipper to set rain
>etc.

i want to strangle every person who does this with my bare hands
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Last req for now, want to complete that anger point team with m pinsir and tauros water in case krookodile doesn't work out
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>>59485244
forgot the part where it rage powders any attempt to hit arch with a fighting type move
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>>59484945
>Sucker Punch
Hehe then u just get aqua jeeted
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honey it's time for your new cybertron shill team
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>>59485265
just follow the weakness section lmao
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>All Reg MA Pokemon
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>>59485265
I tried this team and I don't think I landed a single Head Smash. It's not for me.
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>>59485313
surprised archaludon, pelipper, venusaur, or aerodactyl aren't higher than sneedler
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>>59485324
#12, #13, #15 and #16 according to the ‘ddit
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>Lead with Rotom-W
>Opponent Mega Raichu Y uses Grass Knot
>It's Super Effective!
>Less than 20% damage
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>m-delphox frequently just barely survives fake out plus modest max spatk m-froslass shadowball

wow, that's extremely fucking annoying
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>short pause
>"Opponent Kingambit's Chople B-"
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>>59485313
>Shit that’s been powerful since day 1 is still dominating
They really need to start doing bans or rotating Pokemon out. This game’s longevity is donezo otherwise.
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skill swap is so much more fun in theory than in reality, it's disappointing
since most of the broken abilities in the format are ones that activate on switch in, particularly the weathers, which copying just makes them happen again
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bros that's hilarious how did he know?
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Alolan Raichu should get an speed boost from all terrains
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>>59485551
>Alolan Raichu is the monthly tourney freebie
Who is going to use this? You can't even use it with Mega Raichu X. They'll have to add Pincurchin and salvage it somehow.
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>>59485554
Pincurchin can't save anything because Pincurchin can't even help itself.
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>>59485560
I meant salvage Pincurchin. For starters the most obvious move to give is volt switch which i was extremely surprised to find out it never got. As for other moves I'm out of ideas. Parabolic charge maybe.
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We're getting a promo Incineroar in a few weeks
https://x.com/Sifu_pokePress/status/2085024581975474640
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for what purpose was my opponent running maxed out spdef farigiraf

isn't this thing supposed to be built to survive knock offs and kowtows instead
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>>59484650
No
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>>59485588
probably got demolished by dark pulse too many times
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>>59485588
Mindbroken by Charizard weather ball
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so many of the best moves in the game being 90% accuracy feels like such a fuck you for no reason
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>>59485647
You vill have your mega Mawhile miss for no reason und you vill be happy
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>fighting for my life to get out of Ultra Ball
What the fuck is going on, man.
It was never this hard.
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>>59485452
Didn't help that they started Champions with these mons, fuck anyone who actually believed these chucklefuck devs cared about balancing by removing a shitton of mons and items
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>>59482697
Bruh other video games are so fucking ass these days a company cant even remake a game without completely fucking up what made the original liked to begin with. And dont get me started on """New IP""" a.k.a. another entry in one of the like 4 Solved Vidya Genres with a new cast of black transbiens.
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>>59485647
Dragon rush still being 70% is insulting. They really need to up it to 90%. It's just 100 dmg and fairies are immune to it ffs.
>>59485654
But that's how it's been for the past 2 seasons. I assume it's worse now since most casuals have quit and you have mostly tryhards left. I'm probably one of the few casuals left.
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>>59485588
I dont think it survives a knock off from adamant ttar or a life orb kowtow even with max def. You would need a colbur berry for that.
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Today i learned that when you send out a ditto against another ditto that copied one of your pokemon, it just sits there as the basic ditto it is and just gets slaughtered by the mega scizor +6
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i lose a few microns of my hairline every time for those few seconds after clicking heat wave
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>>59485659
It's an iron tail clone and no one uses iron tail. Even stone miss is better.
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>>59485654
You too huh?
I have to make a new team for ultraball. There's too much metaslop in here now. My moves have been missing and I'm fighting against braindead Fish spam or Life orb Garchomps. I just want to reach MB again so I can go back farming achievements with meme teams.
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>>59485659
>>59485825
I keep getting hit with crit or double burned in some cases or double flinched in others.
And it's not just a one and done thing, it's every game every turn.
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>>59485785
Fucking lol
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>Dragalge finally earned me some knockouts on ladder

Mawile will still end up carrying my team but at least I can rack up some wins with my bro
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Anyone knows whats the Str rate on the battle memories app?
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This season is still M-B and it's longer than 30 days? Also there's yet again absolutely no new shit besides the battle pass?
What the fuck are they doing? This is genuinely pathetic.
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>>59486207
Why would they change the meta with less than 20 days until worlds?
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Chances of my best friend winning worlds? It is now or never
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>>59486317
To not have three whole months with absolutely zero content?
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>>59486317
Why wouldn't they give people an incentive to play even if it's not a new meta?
There is no content plan for this game, it was rushed and buggy while the IRL tournaments are dictating the pace of the regulations. It took them a month to add a suit for a ZA character, please understand that'll be $7.99 or whatever.
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>>59486370
>>59486399
>three (3!) whole long months of the same characters and no new yummy skinerinos
It's ok zoomers, you can go back to Fortnite for a couple weeks in the meantime to get your fix of brainrot.
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>>59486399
The game is not going to be treated very differently from what the VGC cycle already was when it was part of the main games. I don't know why it's so hard to understand for some people.
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>>59486418
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>>59486421
You don't know why people would like more than 10 pokemon worth considering playable?
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>>59486370
>>59486399
You people are dopamine fried. This content drip feed is dictated by mainline releases. Where was this despair between Scarlet Violet VGC and now and the "zero content" there? It hasn't even been half a year since this game released. You haven't experienced actual dogshit live service games. The game asks nothing of you and it's enough for a piss break.
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>>59486418
>>59486446
Yes, how dare someone expect content on this shitty low-effort gacha game masquerading as VGC. I sincerely apologize to Mr. Nintendo for disrespecting him and his great work. I have now bought Home premium, the Battle Pass and Pokemon Champions Pro Plus and will now go grind my fifth month of Charizard Y slop.
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>>59486446
>Dopamine fried
We can't even get all the megas for worlds and you call this dopamine fried
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>>59486468
You got it backwards, it's VGC masquerading as a gacha.
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>>59486468
Good I'm glad you learned and changed your ways
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>>59486434
There are only 6 party slots here is what happens when new Pokemon get added
>the current top picks become rogue tier picks
>the current rogue picks become bad
There isn’t some critical mass of Pokemon added where suddenly everyone starts Karenfagging
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>>59486434
Okay so you want the next 10 only usable Pokémon? I genuinely don't know what you're asking for. If your problem is balance because they don't add Pokémon fast enough, you want Salamence Amoonguss Rillaboom cancer instead? No matter how many Pokémon they add the most powerful ones will fall into place and replace the previous cancer. It's not going to make already shit Pokémon suddenly good.
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>>59486506
Idw ant balance patches, where are my fucking balance patches
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>>59486418
>>59486446
Do your knees ever get tired?
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>>59486519
Like what? Removing Pokémon? They're probably only going to do micro balance changes like moveset additions or removals in generation changes. If you look in the box there's a filter option for usable Pokémon so they're clearly going to rotate Pokémon in and out. It's literally only been 5 fucking months dude get a grip.
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>>59486533
>It's been 5 months since launch and the game still doesn't let me use all the megas
You think this argument works in your favour? That I enjoy waiting a whole year for a mega Darkrai that is going to feel underwhelming as fuck to play?
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It’s been 5 months can we add Urshifu already
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>>59486563
Urshitfu is washed
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>>59486543
Do you actually not have other things to do?
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>>59486543
>Darkrai
You’re gonna be waiting more than a year
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>>59486639
Have mythicals ever been allowed in any official format?
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>>59486543
You will never play mega Darkrai until the last Mega regulation.
Where are these fucking new players coming from who think mythicals are going to be allowed now? You will have a single and double restricted format before they're allowed.
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>>59486655
Not at tournaments, but they were allowed in one of the seasons in SwSh and Reg J in SV.
The normal restricted mons tended to just shit all over the mythicals who are often worse choices than other 600bst sub legendaries.
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>>59486657
>stop asking for new pokemons, stop asking for mythicals, stop asking for balance patches. NewfagNewfagNewfagNewfagNewfagNewfagNewfagNewfag
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Ultra ball is so ass right now.
Thank god I did all my serious climbing and ribbon collecting in S/V.
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>>59486655
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>>59486678
>>59486655
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>>59486662
There's lots of mons I want added, but I'm fine with the current pool if the devs could be assed to make an interesting tournament format occasionally. I'm just not retarded and asking for mons that aren't coming.
We've had 5 fucking months straight of singles challenges. Right this moment ZA, which is a dead game, has a water type only format. This shit isn't fucking hard.
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>>59486678
Basically you made it a scarfed mon because it doesn't have much viability.
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>>59486695
Nah it was AV paired with CM Kyogre. Awful team, would not recommend.
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>>59486657
To be honest they just sound like Smogon refugees. Smogon still exists even though it's dying.
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>>59486695
You don’t have to actually bring it to a battle to get the MB ribbon in SV it can just sit in your team as one of the two you don’t pick
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>>59486711
This is what I did with Phione lol Just slapped it on a team with Miraidon and Fluttermane lead and hoped they'd sweep
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Everyone who thinks mythicals shouldn't be a permanent choice in any tournament format after Walking Wake is a moron and should stream his suicide
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>>59486727
Walking wake only saw use when box legends weren't legal. Darkrai (you know why), Magearna, Arceus, and a few of the fast, very offensive mythicals might be ok, but besides the fun of playing with them, you aren't missing out.
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>>59486733
that's why I am saying they should be playable always. Most of them are bad. And the "they are event exclusive" excuse doesn't work anymore
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>>59486743
Agreed, they should just be bundled in with restricted or wherever paradox/UBs are.
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I really wanted competitive empoleon to do things, but even leading it into staraptor or incineroar doesn' let it do much of anything with the boost
At least the shuca berry + ice beam strat has allowed me to kill several garchomps that think they can just come in and earthquake for free
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>>59486727
Walking Wake is just okay.
It's a sub-legendary like any other, just obnoxious to get.
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Is that anon who rocks Conkeldurr around? Wanted to get a QRD on some Conk usage, I’m building TR for the first time this season so that I can use my shiny Vileplume.
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>>59486829
People TR Vileplume? Isn't it the Chlorophyll memer?
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>>59486833
Yeah, I didn’t really like that, just felt like bootleg Venusaur. I’m trying Effect Spore Strength Sap with Big Root under TR, stops the fish in its tracks, not sure what else I can neutralize with it yet
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>>59486839
Well strength sap on the contrary mons raises their attack while healing you. Just some food for thought.
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>>59486833
There used to be teams with fast mode and slow-mode centered around Vileplume and Torkoal back in early S/V.
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In terms of bare minimum game information, I would expect the following in a game like this with this huge of a franchise;

- a menu with a list of moves, move descriptions, and which Pokémon learn them.

- a menu of abilities, ability descriptions, and which Pokémon have them.

- a menu of mega Pokémon and their mega abilities. If you’re super lazy, merge into the point above.

This is super basic stuff that is pretty much already coded into the game.

But GameFreak are a pack of retarded monkeys duct taped to a briefcase of money so why would they ever improve.
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>toxapex stockpiles twice
>raichu used zapcannon!
>60%
>fag retard forfeits
Im gonna cum
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>>59486727
>walking wake and mega zard slop
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Has anyone here used Mudsdale? I fought one on the ladder and was thinking about building a team with it. It seems good into Garchomp/Kingambit/Incineroar + all of the Raichus running around. I was thinking:
>Mudsdale
>Sinistcha (healing/rage powder/TR)
>Mega Froslass (Aurora Veil, good against Staraptor and grass types that Mudsdale can't touch, helpful against rain)
>Kingambit (Discourages Intimidate, checks ice and fairy types + Basculegion, good in TR)

Idk what else. I need something that's good into Zard at least.
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>>59486919
Tyranitar would fit in nicely, give you a second mega as well.
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I tried it. Its ok. Weaker than you want
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>>59485324
Sneasler is more splashable. You're not running Arch without rain. You're only running Pelipper if you run rain. Venus is either chlorophyll in the sun or the increasingly rare Mega Venu. Meanwhile Sneasler can be slotted into almost any team if you need a 6th.
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>>59481743
I'm stuck at ultra ball 2 and I swear it's all due to hax. Fuck this game bruh.
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>>59486970
look at this noob, lmao
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>>59486985
man stfu, friend code me and I'll face you and kick your ass fr.
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>>59486998
sorry kid, I dont duel below my rank (ultra 1), get good first
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>>59486872
Genuinely curious if people are fine with this information not being in, what is allegedly the definitive competitive app.

Personally I hate needing to google this information, and that there should be glossaries in the game
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>complain about meta
>complain about "meme" teams
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>>59486872
Im pretty sure gamefreak knows the 100 pokemon wikis will support that information
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Imprison on a farig with protect is some of the blackest nigger shit I've ever seen
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>burned kingambit only had enough strength to KO with sucker punch because a random shadow ball it took switching in procced defiant

I fucking hate this game man
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>>59487023
Based Malamar chad I've also had success with him
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any fun ideas for mega dragalge in singles other than stall
just been using him as a big fat fucker that safely gets volcarona into position
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only missing vivillion to complete my champions gacha dex
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>>59487295
You should've predicted the switch the game punishes you for making bad reads
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>>59486919
Feels like if you're running mudsdale you could just be running garchomp yourself?
And garchomp can help with your charizard problem with rock slide.

I dunno, mudsdale just feels like garchomp with 70 less speed.
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I'm climbing fast with the Sand team that became super popular overnight. The meta shifted and it became so, so much better. Nobody knows how to deal with Gholdengo anymore. Granted, I only played a few matches and got to Ultra Ball today, so the bar isn't exactly high. Last season I had to run another team because I was suffering quite a bit with it in Master 3.
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>>59487023
Is that 5 support units?
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>season 5
>rainigs still playing a solved playstyle hoping they don't run into mega raichu Y (whose usage has skyrocketed) and ninetales alola
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>>59485451
Makes me think "wtf Focus Blast from mega Ychu missed" but still knocks it out rendering it a useless item
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>>59487553
It's probably for low kick from other Kingambit or maybe to tank one Sneasler close combat
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New bread
>>59487657
>>59487657
>>59487657
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>>59487023
>another easy climb for 5 supports and a setup mon
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