Finals edition>infohttps://pastebin.com/sq432CYC>previous59446203 Semi-Finals tomorrow, four remain but only one can be champion. Clamsy v HaffiSneed v Jams
>>59492140Cool
>>59492140previous >59446203
>>59492145previous >>59446203 im retarded and can't link
>>59492140I am nervous bros...
welp just finalized my team, jesus takes the wheel now
>matched up against sneed who 2-0'd me and if I manage to win I am most likely up against Clamsy who also 2-0'd me unless haffi causes a major upset.I could not have wished for a better final bracket.
>>59492140How do you guys handle signups?
>>59492702Nta but it was just promoted in pcg for a couple of threads. Previously we used challonge as a more standardized way>https://challonge.com/yx8zr5t0but just keeping track and having a dedicated thread does help also, though pinging people to do stuff like picking the mons during the draft is kind of iffy since we just hope they pay attention to the thread and dont just bail. With challonge, the host can ping everyone using the announcement page
planning this team is stressful, i do hope im not overthinking it
This is the rematch I was most afraid of, and I have no idea if I'm approaching it correctly
Who is the Ash Ketchum of this league?
So who is up first?Jam btw
>>59494301I'm in the middle of last-minute changes and also dinner, so I wouldn't mind you and Sneed going first.
is anybody streaming? I would prefer to wait for haffi so the games can be streamed/recorded at least
>>59494329i am around.Would be fine to start in a bit once i setup my phone stream
So it's sneed me and me right off the bat>>59494335
>>59494339okay setting up stream now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy7CSZAG898Is it up for you guys?Nvm gimme a minute i need to update the app
>>59494354It's up.for me
46680809Room number
uhh single battle rooms?
Oh shit my B.
17742970New room
i am so not ready but lets do this
wait pidgeotto?
I want to be in, I asked a few threads back, can I be in the draft?
>>59494385prevos are legal?
jams according to my team sheet there is no pidgeotto
I fucked up I thought I had pidgeot in my team
-Kingambit-Whimsicott-Pyroar-Ariados-Quaquaval-Absol-Gliscor-Dragapult-Reuniclus-Torterradid you mix it up with pyroar?
You win that round.Can I'll change my team.FUCK
@sneed calling for arbitrartion.I dont mind starting with clamsy if needs more time
i never made any rule about this lol, not sure how to treat it. I think just switch pidgeiot out for a legal mon and redo?
>>59494404I am honestly 100% fine with you just winning through me breaking the rules.
But I am really sorry for some reason I thought I had pidgeot in my team instead of absol.Fuck if you wanna continue you should atleast
>>59494387at the very least gotta wait til this one ends, in about a week after the finals.Im not the host though, so gotta check up on him
>>59494410I just don't want to ruin a good match for a stupid error, but I think in the future it should be an insta 1 game loss since you see the opponents hand somewhat. I am okay with it being a wash a redoing with only pidgeot being switched out and every other mon staying as is since i never stated a rule for this.
>>59494423You should get the 1-0 regardless in my opinion speaking as your opponent.I have unfair advantage now after all.
>>59494427yeah ok i guess thats fair, i had an advantage in the game as it was when you ff'd i suppose.
34453134Here is the new room
New room>7269 9238I also don't mind going first, Jams probably needs some time
wouldn't be a good finals series without drama i suppose
>>59494433I don't feel like it's fair to get anymore preptime since I saw his team.
>>59494433Never mind, this one >>59494431
>>59494431waiting on haffi
huge damage
I can't believe this is how I go out.
im sorry jams, that was a generational spaghetti spill. I'm going to back through threads and see what happened with the pidgeot thing :(
should we start now then?this is a tad awkward
>>59494462yeah sure
noooo haffi didn't you learn about encore fakeout from me :(
I hate encore so much.Why do i have to get cucked for two weeks now
>>59494472glad to see you being with us still
>>59494459No I was being a fucking idiot.I had pidgeot in my squad for a long as time to replace emo birb when I was finalizing my last trades before finally deciding against it.I ultimately decided against it, but I still had it in my retarded fucking head that I had pidgeot in my team.I am sorry I couldn't give you a better semifinals
Oof. Once again, i hate encore
BRO
no way
I just lose now.I have zero outs to ghosts once arealate is no more
those games felt winnable
>>59494535first game not so much, but second game definitely i was on the edge.GG clams.I lost, but i like to think i kept my honour and carried the hopes of those before me
Calling @sneed, so what next?Do we have to fight for third place also?
I honestly couldn't tell you why I picked Decidueye over Salazzle, but I'm glad I did. GGs Haffi
and now only 2 remain. Our final is Clamsy v Sneed
>>59494544next week we will start with the 3rd place match as openerJams v Haffibefore the final Clamsy v Sneed
>>59494546gg again.I really had to make big plays in the second round there, but was too timid to do it.
>>59494539>like to think i kept my honour and carried the hopes of those before meI wish I could say the same
Aight, any other housekeeping?Uhh, there was that one guy who wanted clarification on the next draft if there is one.Same time next week for finals.paste needs updating
>>59494557A small chance at redemption next week.How do I beat Clamsy bros.
>>59494563with a lot of effort.My idea was psychic terrain expanding force under trick room, but as you can see, its really really aggressive and lose to some leads.I thought pinsir + tauros was great also to beat a ton of leads, but not if they counter trick room.My best advice is just go hyper aggro
>>59494563If you need someone to practice against I am willing to help Though I guess clamsy's strongest point is his teambuilding skills and I can't replicate that
>>59494387>>59494562Right. Well to be honest this draft was our first and a test run of sorts. Im not sure how long a break we are supposed to have before a next draft and what regulation we will play in. Doing prep for games is actually quite a lot of work I've found and I don't want to burn people out. I should also get feedback on what changes could be made and gauge interest/advertise better. It would be great if the next one could have a full 8 players
>>59494586Considering how fucking long each regulation is.Maybe 1 draft league per regulation?
>>59494568After week 2 (the game I lost to Clamsy) I changed how I did team prep and haven't lost since then so it will be interesting what looks different when I go into the lab again. I also have 2 changes since then which can change the matchup.
>>59494586Can confirm, I'm getting burnt out. I'm still having fun and I'm glad I'm still in it, but I'm also glad that it's wrapping up.I wouldn't mind taking a long break between drafts, but doing that could lose us what little interest we've drummed up. We could go in the opposite direction: run new drafts so often that no one feels the need to participate every single time. I don't wanna suggest that if constant managing would be too much work, though.
>>59494648how often does wolfey do his draft leagues? that can be a good barometer for how long there should be between each draft. It's best to learn from people who have been doing it for years i guess.
>>59494694I thought his league ran for way longer, isnt the current one like 9 weeks deep?
>>59494694There was about six months between the end of WDL season 1 and the beginning of season 2.
>>59494586>Doing prep for games is actually quite a lot of work I've found and I don't want to burn people out.For me personally, my prep is theorycrafting and just testing in casuals for a hot minute until im more or less happy with what i have. Im rather chill all around, and not taking it super seriously, other than this week of course.If anything, I feel like im burnt out on champions in general and this draft makes me push on. There just isnt a reason to care about this game for months on end unless we are doing something like this draft.>I should also get feedback on what changes could be made and gauge interest/advertise betterthere is a ton of stuff i have thoughts on to make this better/more streamlined, but ill hold off on that until we end it proper
Team for this week.Pinsir is one point faster than the fastest mega glimm.Incin with charti berry always lives max SpA power gem and -1 garchomp earthquake.I messed up putting stored power instead of expanding force, but from game 1 as youve seen, it didnt matter.H-Decidueye always outspeed opposing decidueye with no speed investment and rotom fan without scarf.
>>59494909oops, the pinsir's set is fucky since i changed it back to my gym leader pinsir.Pinsir-Mega @ Pinsirite Ability: Aerilate Level: 50 EVs: 13 HP / 32 Atk / 21 Spe Jolly Nature - Body Slam - Giga Impact - Detect - Close Combathere is the real set
>>59494586This seems like not that hard to setup and do in a day as a sort of practice run, just have 6-8 people active in a thread with namefags on and just actively participate, only draft 6 mons, then do a bunch of battles in a row, better than waiting weeks and stuff.If you’d like to be pet of my casual test draft with these rules just namefag and put the next number in line after test draft p in the name for your player number, so we can use a rng for deciding matches and pick order, we’ll start drafting at 4 players, and you can also pick a moon to draft when you sign up to make it even faster and reward early signups, I’ll go with Venusaur for mine. And then list ur mons at the end so we can keep track.Hope this doesn’t bother the current players but the week long tournament thing for 6 people just seems too slow, we’ll se show this goes at least for practice or shits and giggles, I’ll be up tonight and if we get a few anons who wanna play we can go for it. >Venusaur
Any thoughts on separating megas from their default form?
>>59494914might wanna promote it elsewhere also.im not joining because of timing (have work), maybe there is a group there which is willing to join you>>59495030personally im not in favor of a complex ban, this draft, as stated above, is just a trial one of sorts. theoretically the host could do seperation if there is an existing draft board already in place to follow to prevent headaches, or putting some complex rules to prevent the mega just being another version of the mon. >see final gambit lucario/staraptor which you can still do in mega form
>>59495061It’s not gonna work tonight but if people wanna sign up here for this I’ll keep managing it and see how fast we can get a test quick-draft going instead of waiting a week.
Trying somethin different with the image. Here's my week 1 writeup for reference: >>59409601>CofagrigusShould survive most double-ups. Helping Hand Shadow Ball OHKOs min-bulk M-Gengar. I really wasn't sure how useful Trick Room would be to me, so I had Garchomp in this slot up until a few hours before the match. And yeah, Garchomp probably would've been good seeing as he didn't bring Vanilluxe (good callout), but he wouldn't have allowed that Mummy Moment to happen.>SalazzleOutspeeds Modest M-Gengar, which includes Raichu. Survives a Shadow Ball, or a Mystic Water Aqua Jet, and likely survives a Raichu+Vanilluxe double-up. Fake Out+Flamethrower probably KOs Vanilluxe, and no-bulk M-Pinsir falls to just a Flamethrower. As it turns out, the M-Pinsir he actually used is perfectly in range of Fake Out+Flamethrower. I almost had Corrosive Gas on this set, but HH had to go somewhere.>ChesnaughtOutspeeds Raichu under TW. Survives Psychic or Blizzard without megaing. Wood Hammer OHKOs min-bulk Tauros without megaing. These benchmarks are all for non-Mega Ches partially because I could've brought her to games where I planned on megaing Glimm, and partially because she didn't have the mega stone on the Garchomp version of the team. The 8Def was originally to take two M-Pinsir Feints with Sitrus, but it also happened to be perfect for taking two Feints by megaing.>DecidueyeSame set as week 1. I figured I'd at least have to give the Sash to Salazzle, but somehow it was still better on him.>GlimmoraSame point allocation as week 1, just with Modest over Timid because I decided he wouldn't be Jolly Tauros (I was right). I also thought it would let me underspeed Tauros for TR by not megaing (I was wrong). The extra SpA puts min-bulk M-Gengar in range of Electroweb+Power Gem. It also puts 32HP/2SpD Kebia Berry Hydrapple in range of Flamethrower+Sludge Bomb.>RotomSame set as week 1. The mons I was most afraid of then are all still there, so I was expecting a similar team.
Bump
>>59494914I'm interested in joining, the only problem with a shorter format is that you have less time to fuck around with your team but it's more engaging if people have enough free time.
>>59495030>>59495061I know its my preference to not separate them ashaving stuff like garchomp vs garchamp without an item in the same match, or kangaskan vs mega kangaskan is imo against the spirit of draft. I'm not sure why the accepted convention is to seperate them. Maybe because it can unbalance drafts by making mons with both usable base and megas too good. I tried to somewhat make mons with megas more expensive to compensate and mega mons didn't overtake our draft, but that might be because we didn't capitalize on it.
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>>59494586>what changes could be madeI think it depends on what you want this to be. Is it for fun to fuck around in, or do you want it to be way more organized and run it as if it's more serious?
bump>>59499189also not the host, but im just playing around. Preferably we angle it as low a floor as possible to bring forth the most interest to this. Timmies, Johnnies and Spikes all should be interested in joining
