SOLAR BEAM EditionPokémon Champions is a free to play online battle simulator available on Switch and mobile. It features ranked, casual and private battles for both singles and doubles, and will be used for VGC tournaments in 2026.>NewsEnter HAJ1MAR1G1FT for a free 100 Quick Coupons and CHAMP10N for a free Machamp.The Monthly Challenge series is currently live.>Resources and useful linksCommunity Tournaments usage data: https://pikalytics.com/Ladder usage data: https://pokechamdb.com/enNew Player Guide(NEW PEOPLE READ THIS):https://rentry.org/pcg-guide (now taking suggestions and feedback)Anon made guide for brand new players to make a viable team with the starting pokemon: https://teamsheet.gg/t/sample-beginner-reg-b-vl3698Quick FAQ>Do I need my own Pokémon to play?No, the game features a recruitment system, but transferring from Home is recommended to save time and resources.>What makes the game so much more accessible than before?All aspects of a Pokémon are customizable with VP, a currency earned simply by playing the game. IVs are also removed.Ask in the thread if you want any specific Pokémon, and someone will respond.>Is there single player content?No.>Do I need a Nintendo Online subscription?No.>What's the starter pack?US$6.99 one time purchase for 50 training tickets (fully train for free), 30 Teammate Tickets (recruit Pokemon without using VP), 50 extra box space and the LGPE trainer music. Only available on Switch for now.>Is anything locked behind a paywall?So far everything gameplay relevant is also purchasable with VP. Only E-Floette require ZA transfer.>/pcg/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread): https://pastebin.com/d2FJZdPhPrevious: >>59522024
first for free mythicals
god 60 is such an ass speed tierstill faster than trick room staples with iron ballstill slower than 100s with scarf still slower than 130s with tailwind
Just caught a fast ball combuskin; how good is blaziken in doubles?
>>59531305God Raichu Y is so fucking busted, I love it
>>59531414its decent, one of the good teams running around in tournaments runs mega blaziken. I expect you will see it in worlds but it's not a meta threat
>gave back the Pyroar from the ticket>don't have the box space for something I could easily get a better one ofEven after the starter pack I'm getting up there with the box space. Though I should probably just trash things I'm really not interested in using even if it has a cool ball or title.
>switch in, protect, switch out, repeatwhy are tyranitar players like this
>>59531580Doesn't help that Tyranitar is made of paper
Between H.Arcanine and Lycanroc who is the better Charizard killer?
So, I'm new to this. Downloaded the game yesterday. Why do people keep forfeiting?I already got into Great Ball tier just because of that. Also, I keep getting the message "The Battle had ended". Is this people quitting the game before the battle begins? It's annoying.
>>59531673might be people doing the "play 1 ranked battle" quest
>>59531629Wolf is faster but dog has more utility.
>>59529796I had a second pink frillish, got a tyranitar for it
I got a few pokemon for Spindas. Not sure why it's so popular. I know there's some kind of restriction to it, but still.
>>59531882not in any switch games and can't be transferred from GO, with bank shutting down people are panicking
>>59531763>now for sylveonI am building an entire competitive team out of pink frillish that I caught while taking a shit
>>59530992Look at this absolute fucking bullshit. Protect is so strong that it absolutely infests the meta. Almost every Pokemon runs it. They need to reign it in by adding some more moves like Feint, or adding an ability that shuts it down like how Iron Tail shuts down priority moves.https://youtu.be/pZAP6oLwdE0?t=3785
>>59532175MGolurk is literally RIGHT THERE
>>59532175Protect could still be better because why doesn't Close Combat into Protect drop the stats? Hyper Beam doesn't require recharge? Buff it more.
>>59531305Lmao I never see this thing in ranked
>>59532198Has a really bad match up into pretty much everything>dies to sneasler>dies to charizard>dies to rain>dies to sand>dies to trick room>mega floette is just a better version of it>sylveon is just a better version of it>fucking mega gardevoir is a better version of itGrass is just a bad typing.
I wanna build an Alcremie team, can someone help me get a Caramel + Clover one?
these bot matches are hilarious>fake tears surf azumarill>pressure kingambit using lash out>pikachu™ lead
>>59532198Its because she's busy in the bedroomhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsHgLlfHWRk
Whoever recommended the victory road website, thank you. Great resource to get replica teams or to try and build your own from some of the top players.Finally got a nice Aerodactyl team working
>>59531673I actually appreciate the forfeit in this game. As far as I’m aware there is no penalty for forfeiting, so it’s a way to respect the players time.Sometimes I forfeit if I feel like the match is already over or made bad predictions into typing. Gives the other player a win and I get to move on and try and learn or adjust what I had.
>>59531673VP farming. You get matched with bots in lower levels if you repeatedly lose. It's easier to repeatly forfeit against humans than get put into ultra and master where you actually have to face them seriously.
>>59532277Give me a sec I was shiny hunting alcremie earlier
>>59532277>>59532384Sent
>>59532390much appreciated!
Why does the Cynthia vore tranny invade this general when it's almost archived? If he's trying to rage bait why do it in a thread no one is in? He did it again last thread. This game has nothing to do with the mainline NPCs.
>>59532416he does it to every general
Was playing that Scovillain + Froslass team, but it has no speed control? I really can't find a team I like huh...
>>59532467do the version with MAero instead of Frosslass and click Tailwind
>>59532477*instead of Scovillain
>>59532467it only works if you name Scovillain Jakiro
>decidueye is the only ghost type that can learn tailwind, upper hand, or aura sphere this is like some kind of sick twisted joke for mono teambuilding
>>59532498driftbros....
>put up a male normal sylveon up for a female>someone trades me a shiny so it's still the wrong color by gender
>>59532498Pokemon fans arguing that weaker Pokemon should have nice things just to complain when it happens.
>>59532198>>59532220Here, you dropped this.Hope your HRT is going well!
>>59532326also save this onehttps://silph-scope.com/ladder
>>59532482That's not bad, but I really dislike setup Kingambit.
>>59532482>snake eating its tail, the team
>>59532326>>59532624Silph co is nice to see the ladder but I don't think it shows their main teams so you have to trudge through their xeeter, https://poke.terurun.jp/competition-results this one is another alternative to victory road to see ladder teams but its a japanese one.
>>59532482I like taunt on Tsareena to fuck up the giraffe
Man I am on an abysmal losing streak>faced an Overqwil niggerSigh
it is fairly amusing how scovillain is having its day in the sun despite having one of the most atrociously inefficient stat spreads in the game spicy spray s just that good
why is the arch rain team seen as bad now?
>>59532850>archalushit gets fuckedPRESS S TO SPIT
>>59532850Swampert is kinda of easy to play around and basculegion is not really a huge problem by itself anymore so those game states where arch comes in with rain setup and shit already half dead isnt that common in high level play anymore I guess? Also the grimm screens -> pelipper lead is kinda one note ? Good players probably navigate it well, I'm bad at the game so take everything I say with a grain of salt
>>59532175protect is the only reason vgc battles are interesting
>>59532831Basculegion also has pretty shit base stats
>>59532850Because mega Charizard dominates the meta now, and they often bring a Tyranitar just to make sure your rain is shut down.
>>59532482Bro, what the fuck happened to the quality of this image? Did you have to fax it over a 56k connection?>.pnglmao
>>59531629the one that can't be burned
>>59533004I wouldn't mind so much if you could punish them if you correctly predicted the protect. Like if just as many pokemon could learn Feint.
>>59532294I completed the win without any pokemon fainting achievement thanks to the victreebell using poison jab on mega aggron in singles Great Ball tier
>>59533011120 HP is really good, if it had base 60 like most ghost types it would need 130/150 defenses to have equivalent bulk to what it does now but yeah adaptability carries the attacking hard
>>59532788I unironically wish more faggots used this strategy along with Perish Trap and that double weather team cause those are the match ups i have no clear plan against and i'd be good for the practice
>>59533098>punish them for protect even without encore and feint, you can also use a predicted protect for a free switch in or clicking a setup move that makes you even scarier after the protect there are plenty of ways to work around it if you're actually successfully predicting it
>>59533020>Because mega Charizard dominates the meta nowIs it really a scizo theory to say that VGC is a thinly veiled marketing plot? For fucks sake Raichu is in the top 10 and that's only because of Mega Raichu Y being a glorified Pikachu.
>>59533209>Y was made better than Xfigures
>>59533212It damn better, have you seen what xerneas does?
>make embarrasing misplay turn 1>opponent times out bumping me back up to 1980No point of predicting Fake Out on Ychu from blastoise and trying to encore it when I could've just used freeze dry and weakened it's water spout, poor risk vs reward management on my part
>1980 using the fissure snorlax stratI'm impressed, lost to it cause i kept trying to kill its supporting teammates when i had at least 3 turns where i couldve annihilated it btw
>>59532277What team did you end up building? I kinda just chucked it in a zard rain team in place of grimm and it felt fine but it wasnt really something that I lived or died by
So they would prioritise permanent pokemon in the 100/100? That's neat but what happened if I have all of them permanent?
>>59531459Enables so much, and it being used more ironically benefits other Mega RaYchu players, can't believe people took this long to discover its potential and were even writing it off as mid when it almost solos rain if you use something like freeze dry ninetales or venusaur for swampert alongside it, venusaur is also great backup vs archaludon and limits grimmsnarls impact on a match
>>59532277Looking at the sets and iron ball on trick room seems interesting, it reaches 74 speed so if you put 2 speed evs into torkoal it'd be able to launch +2 SpA eruptions after using decorate after going 2nd
>>59533340Just modified torkoal and it takes 3 stat points evs to reach 38 speed so alcremie can decorate the volcano turtle, works for other trick room special attackers like mega ampharos, mega camerupt etc too
>>59533319Fuck you guys, this is some bullshit
>>59533209I don't see how you could think its schizo or a theory. They're selling pokemon games. Of course they will make the most popular ones viable. Its like saying its a conspiracy theory that McDonalds makes good hamburgers just so people will be more likely to buy them.
Imagine if they don't nerf Basculegion and put Chien Pao in the game meaning they'll also put Chi-Yu next to Zard Y
>>59533422>Of course they will make the most popular ones viable.It's fucking bullshit.
>>59531305How the ruck do I recruit the special worlds ticket Pokémon?Nice promotion you got here gamefreak.
if I buy the membership, I know that once it expires it locks the extra box spaces and the pokemon in thembut what happens to the team slots?3 is too restrictingI'm not getting it if those aren't permanent once it expires
>>59533520Locked out too
>>59533498>514Bro wtf this aint GO
>>59532277I wish you could have 6 alcreamie or 6 furfrou on a team.
Apparently if you use encore on gigaton hammer it removes the restriction of only being able to use it once at a time, instruct apparently let's you use it multiple times in a row as well
>>59533526they I guess I'm not spending anything until they add the starter pack to mobile
>>59533445Scarf Chi-Yu will rise again.
>>59533546yes. same for bloodmoon
chi yu later
Remember when mega Pyroar was hyped?
>>59533319Yeah I use Ninetales with it, and Hydreigon. But my true secret sauce is Friend Guard Maushold
>>59533713it's still pretty good, unironically it would be used more if it didn't look stupid
>>59533783It's not missing out on tournament results because of how it looks.Delphox does its job way better.
>>59533795Delphox is more popular because she's cool
>>59533809She's also easier to use
Hard trick room is for absolute faggots. Can’t believe I am wasting my time with this trash fucking game.If your name is “rule 34” I hope someone kills you
I hope everyone who clicks the move “Population Bomb” is a victim of extreme police brutality. Fucking cock sucker move for cunts
>new stuffs in 2 weeksBoy I can't wait for Assault Vest Archaludon
>>59533939Archaludon doesn't deserve anything good.If I was God I'd legitimately bring it into existence, give it a soul, and sent it to Hell.
>>59533922just taunt the giraffe, 95% of them run sitrus or colbur
>>59533986Wish they made him look cool at least instead of some Thomas the tank engine bridge looking thing
multiple times now I encounter this hard tr team that uses giraffe to protect while renucleous or some other pokemon sets it up. the giraffe is really just a gay faggot signal much like the cup and grimm
Too much volcarona use in bss really made me bust out the pex again.
>>59533929Maushold isnt even hard to kill.
Politoed in this economy? This guy is cooking.
Lmao nevermind it's just perishsong.dek
>>59534402I don't know how the Gengar and Incineroar didn't give it away for you
>>59534422Suppose I got my hope high seeing the frog being used over that Toilet Birb
Bunba chan would have won the last match if she only ran wide guard. Sigh....
>>59531629Dusk Lycanroc. it kills the fish good and dead. nukes aero, volcarona, Zard, Delphox. it's also decent for killing Chomp some times.
>>59533111I love how these trips of TRVTH got bluntly ignored because there is simply no counterargumentWe are all here having fun with VGC thanks to the existence of Protect and to claim otherwise is to declare yourself ignorant
>>59534539its seething singles fags don't even bother engaging them
It's definitely weird that they keep pushing singles for online tournaments though. When was the last time we have a Doubles?
>>59531305>1 match before Master Ball Tier>Last round of match, guaranteed win>Heat Wave misses>Losebruh
>>59534527I just pulled 1. What's the best set for it?
>>59534669Doesn't sound guaranteed to me anon
>>59531629Arcanine has many nice pool of moves that covers many typesWolf has priority which is blocked by Jirafe
>>59534696accelerock, sucker punch, psychic fangs, close combat.
I love my giraffe murderer. The plan fails if they run colbur berry, but only 19% of them do.
>>59534915I run a very similar lead and used to be conflicted about not having sunny day instead, thankfully rain teams going extinct made it much less necessary
>>59534669I lost in round three of a Regional in 2011 to a double Heat Wave miss. This was back when VGC was best of one, single elimination, closed team sheet. I drove 9 hours to that tournament. I do not run Heat Miss unless I absolutely have to these days.
people being so bullish on mega froslass doing well in worlds seems insane to me when the meta is zard Y, basc, and gambityou can cap this if she wins and make fun of me but i don't see it
>>59535680I dunno, maybe the pros have some hidden tech or something. I've also never once been impressed by a Mega-Froslass ever since launch too.
>>59535680oh forgot phox, ychu, aerodactyl, all of the fairy special walls, other steel types, and all of the random shit with rock moves meant to kill zard
>>59535680It's going to be a Zard team that wins 50% of the time. Ancient Power Zard Y will be the only thing that ruins its own chances. The anti mirror tech is probably single handedly responsible for Zard not winning the last couple tournaments.
>>59535680fros's biggest problem aside from typing it that the only way for snow to benefit her teammates requires using a turn to set up veil on a mon that really wants to be attacking all the time
>>59535680the guy who ran Aero/Froslass combo said he basically never brought her because everyone he fought had Zard
Does anyone have a Houndstone in a cool ball? I can trade anything from the bank for it. Sorry for the balltism.
incineroar/sinistcha is one of the most obnoxious pairings in the game, sometimes it makes me want to not even bother running physical attackersabilities that activate on switch in need to be taken down a notch
>think the match is down to a 1v1 both at 5% hp >opponent sends out his fourth perfectly healthy monI might be a little tarded
unironically one big reason I prefer running off meta teams is because I hate speed tiesI really wish they came up with a more elegant solution to that than just rolling the dice
>>59535680>people being so bullish on mega froslass doing well in worldsWhat do you mean by this? Is there some sort of betting site?
the thing I hate most about the rain arch team is how you have to make your team worse at dealing with the rest of the meta to be better at dealing with it being less common now actually kind of works in its favor because fewer people are packing hard counters to it
>>59534915Not running protect on froslass seems really dangerous
>>59536119true, he should run substitute shadow ball might actually be the most droppable move there - with blizz/tbolt/rain weather ball there's actually very little it's needed to hit
>>59534399...both is politoed and genger are on perish song aren't they? They have identical moves outside of one and they don't really have a huge amount of overlap in movepool outside of perish song and stall moves.
>>59536158So when I ran a frosslass team comp it was basically my only answer the team would have for goldengo, non-scarfed basc, and even though it wasn't super effective it was better than other options against my secret nemesis Milotic. Thunderbolt might fix that one though.Though does frosslass learn sub? I remember having the thought to look after one of my games but I mashed a too hard went to the next round and forgot to check.
>>59536175ah I forgot about gholdengo, that thing is annoying as fuck for ghost teams iirc some builds of it don't even die to modest fros shadow ball which also sucksand yeah she can learn sub, almost every pokemon that isn't a "cant learn real moves" gimmick (magikarp, beldum, etc) can learn it
>>59534915thunder is a 50% to OHKO fast/non bulky mega blastoise if you want to go full memes with thissince you're already setting rainalthough I guess if you set rain and it doesn't kill him you might get fucked so maybe not lol
I'm trying to build a new Sand team that's closer to my taste. I was thinking Mega Ttar, Houndstone, Sinistcha, Toxapex, Staraptor and Dragonite, but I could also run a more normal core of Mega Ttar, Houndstone, Sinistcha, Incineroar, Corvinight and Garchomp. Any thoughts? I'd like to avoid running Excadrill if I could, I never have a good time with it.
Daily reminder Delphox is winning worlds. Charizard is a honeypot
>rock slide misses zard in the most critical moment>win anywaystressful but extremely satisfying
>>59536308every sand team with corviknight on it has been extremely annoying to fight in my experience, so take from that what you will thing's damn impossible to kill without an electric special attacker and it constantly threatens fighting types that otherwise eat ttar for breakfast sinis incin is also a really strong pivoting core, probably the objectively strongest choice albeit more cliche
>>59536346This is why I like the stats that silph-scope gives. Just make sure you have one of these guys on your team.
>>59536119I tried in the past and it usually ended up being the worse choice than just attacking. Now I just unga bunga attack every turn and it ends up working out because the enemy usually predicts the protect and wastes a turn attacking Sableye, lol.
>>59536308>any thoughts? kill yourself or drop the cup completely, faggot. nothing screams pathetic loser like using that nigger pokemon
>>59536405"Which one?"
>>59536413I'm thinking he's a dragonair superfan that fucking hates dragonite
>>59536308>Mega Ttar, Houndstone, Sinistcha, Incineroar, Corvinight and Garchompswap the ttar mega for chomp mega and houndstone for milotic, and you basically have the special mega chomp team which is running around.anyways i think the second team is more normal with the first, especially since im not a fan of bringing dragonite to sand since you just lose your multiscale immediately.
>>59536340Phox is hard carried by the unpredictability of Mega Blastoise. Even if it wins, it didn't win.
>>59536489It's Dragonite with Inner Focus, great against Fake Out and Intimidate spam. And you'd still need ttar to set up sand for Garchomp, no?>>59536372Interesting, Corvi does seem really strong against everything EXCEPT the megas.
>>59536372my only problem with this format is it just shows the same top 15 pokemon on every matchup chart because they're the most nominally used, even if a stronger counter that's less used exists
i am going to lose my fucking mind. i can't stop losing to fucking staraptor whimsi leads holy FUCK. what brainless shit
>>59536549>it just shows the same top 15 pokemon on every matchupcome play the draft when it comes up then :3
>>59536565Im waiting for it but they're skipping the next regulation apparently </3, I really wanted to join lol
>>59536570last i recall it was giving one month after reg-c releases just to let people settle the meta first, and then theyll start it again.expect people feeling out interest for it when reg-c finally drops
>>59536565I actually meant the format of the website not the competitive format, but noted nonetheless
I'm sooooooo borrrrred
>>59536529Fly me to UU,Let me play among T-tars,Drop me in the meta wearing,A rocky helm or scarf.......
>>59536574Reg-d not reg-c. We want to spread them out so each draft isn't just more or less the same regulation. Hopefully they make more substantial changes after worlds so the meta-game is different and fresh enough by the time reg-d rolls around. Also not to spam drafts as each draft runs for about the length of a regulation.>>59536586do you mean silph-scope is making a tool specifically for the draft format or what are you referring to?
>>59536671>what are you referring to i think he means this image >>59536372 just shows the top used pokemon anyways just by how usage works.Click on any mon, you you will see charizard in the top 10 regardless of what mon it is, be it sneasler or dragonite. Its probably more useful if it shows a weighted chance discounting usage to show how X mons has a 99% kill rate against Y mon even if its usage is outside of the top 50
>>59536632kek
>>59536688yes this is exactly what I meant
>>59536308>HoundstoneBased. With the help of a kind anon here I had one brewed up that was specifically perfect for fucking over Kingambits. I had him fully bulked out rocking Scarf and Trick/Wisp/Disable/Night Shade. Kingambits go insane trying to Sucker Punch this thing then you leave them Burnt and Disabled, it’s fucking hilarious
I had a absolute wild battle tonight where my opponent came armed with two Taunt users to completely counter my TR team (Taunt is rare in Doubles, Encore is more common, so I don't use White Herb), and my Runerigus outright Struggled a couple of turns, but I still managed to get TR up later AND win the game.Also, what day in September do we get new mons and I'm bored out of my mind with the current lineup?And what was the fucking point of that commemorative worlds lineup? None of them were new mons. I chose one and instantly returned it.
>multiple participants showing up with similar teamThis game definitely suffers too much hivemind mentality
>>59537098>hive mind>japananon...
>psychic so bad even when a fighting/poison type is meta the type is still outclassed by fairyWhen are we getting a psychic terrain setter?
you ever notice how it feels like after getting hit with an accuracy lowering move (e.g. muddy water), the immediate next attack constantly misses even though it's supposed to only be like 25% to miss
why is this shit everywhere now?i'd rather fight the old zard team 10 times before whatever this is
>>59537151and yes i did lose to it because mega aerodactyl was un-fakeoutable and proceeded to land rock slide flinches every turn, why do you ask
>>59537151I fought a bunch of these while trying to climb up to masters last season. Mega Aerodactyl is a pain in the ass. Thank fucking god Gamefreak never gave it brave bird and head smash.
>>59537129But isn't M-Delphox one of the better mega?
>>59537203Thanks to heat wave
>>59537151this is the old zard team>>59537098how do you know what teams people are showing up with when it hasnt started yet
>remove thunderbolt from my coverage>next 3 or 4 teams in a row have milotic stop noticing the coincidences gaijin
>>59537229non-stab special attacks only tickle it anyway only like, meowscarada, obamasnow, chesnaught and like trevenant I guess can actually kill that fucking thing easily, and nobody is ever using half of those
>>59537214Because they previewed a few and it's the same Zard + Floette.
>>59537252Bro anon you are absolutely trippin, as a Milotic user myself there are at least 7 more meta mons that destroy it I can list right now off the top of my head>Archaludon>Mega Raichu>Venusaur>Most Whimsicotts>Charizard Y or Torkoal Solarbeam>Tsareena>Rotom-WAnd that’s without even looking, what the fuck are you talking about Chesnaught for? Do you play this game?
>>59537129>even when a fighting/poison type is metaSneedler goes down if you even cough in her direction. You don't need a super effective move for that.
Everyone please follow bunba chan!!! She cute
>>59537151That is the old Zard team.That was week 4 of MA anon, it won NAIC.
>enemy crits twice >i miss twiceyeah fuck this game
why do you crybabies always post "boohoo I lost a game to rng" and never "woohoo I won a game to rng"you're making these threads miserable
>>59532513>reverse trap sylveon
>>59537647You forgot to post the gigachad image
>>59537657go back to league of legends
>>59537647when i crit it doesn't matter unlike the enemy that takes a devastating ko
>ugh I hate missing>play no guard teams? no that's not meta
someone spoonfeed me with thisi'm trying to open a Home accountdo I need to link it to my Nintendo account if I don't have a Switch?with a modded 3ds I could transfer shit to Home after I get the paid Home plan but how about linking with Go?
>>59537684
>Big 6>Zard Toxapex>Zard Rain>Zard Farig-Aero>Froslass-Scovillain>Delphox Blastoise Set-up>Delphox Floette Set-up>Staraptor RaichuSo what wins worlds?
haven't dropped by in a while but they haven't added anything since the last batch with life orb and mega metagross?
>>59537717september 9th
>>59537738Geez they sure are intent on burying this game's launch momentum
>>59537751well there's worlds happening next week so they can't do another batch until then
>>59537700I think it's Zard because a lot of competitors are going to take the Cischke approach and grind whatever team they're comfortable with and hopefully deal with the bad matchups.
>>59537756The momentum is dead because the content schedule has been dogshit. They could have done interesting things to keep players engaged that doesn't involve new mons, but they didn't.They also aren't releasing information about regulations nearly early enough.
I thought I would only battle bots in the lower ranks. Why did I get matched up with an actual person in Pokeball?
>>59537815Only if you lose.
New balance patch tomorrow
>>59537813>the momentum is deadyeah that happens to every single live service game after few monthsthey'll do a tie-in campaign once WiWa comes out and it'll live again, lmao
>>59537738This game is so fucking slow with shit
>>59537821>they'll do a tie-in campaign once WiWa comes out and it'll live again, lmaoYep for about two weeks :)
Wait till people realize this VGC retirement home is trying to kill it off because suits somewhere see the legacy combat system as a barrier to $$$ for the main series.This despite the popularity of TCG and VGC dwarfing slop like Unite or GO.The drip feed of nontent is intentional.
>>59537684you use a Nintendo account to link to all of these except for Pokemon Bank on the 3dsyes, a Nintendo account is requiredPokemon Bank requires both a Nintendo account(for Home) and a Nintendo Network ID linked to Home(Bank uses NNID)you do not need the paid Home plan to transfer from go or any Switch gamesif you don't pay, you are only locked out of sending mons from bank, which is 3ds games and below
>>59536995September 9th, after Worlds. And the special ticket gave you a battle-ready pokemon, so if you don't need it, it's whatever.
>>59537950I've been reading a few articles and it is as you sayMy problem now is that my n3ds does not have bank access because it does not have any NNID associated to itI think bank just needs any NNID on the console and it links to Home via a pairing code when doing transfers, is that right?it's not like I need my NNID linked to my Nintendo account and the Home paid plan to transfer?idk if bank makes things any easier to obtain some stuff, but at least I can just transfer the gen 1-6 stuff if I need it
>>59537997You can add a NNID at any time, go to your settings. And you need a paid Home if you want to transfer from Bank to it.
>>59532513>put up a shitter gyarados from go for a milotic>get a shiny with 3.5 rows of ribbons
>>59538098genned
>>59538101yeah figures, still confusing to give it away to me instead of trying to get some good stuff for it. oh well, I won't bite the hand that feeds me I do prefer normal milotic's colors
>>59538106you can put the milotic on gts and ask for floette, then trade that floette for basically anything
Why is Meganium Meganium?
Why is it the lower elo I fall the more psychotic and harder matches get?
>>59538169Because you can't actually tell what they're running, or what they're going to do.
>>59538169you don't thrive in the circus by being normal
wasn't there a code for an incineroar?
>>59538169People at the top are making decisions based on the optimal play for themselves and the optimal play for you, then combining that info to make a play. You probably just memorized their patterns without gaining the insight as to why they have those patterns. If you also really think like a top player, it should be easier to predict what the lower ones are going to do.
>>59538345No, it's through a Twitch drop.
what do I grab with the commemorative ticket?idk what's even hard to get
>>59538400For my pulls only one Pokémon had a title so I just picked that one.Which one of these two should I get? I just sorted through all my Max Size mons and was looking to get one more for a team, but Grimmsnarl in the Beast Ball, tho my main grimmsnarl is already in a Moonball.
>>59538410do the titles even matter these days
>>59538410Top one is fugly. I'd go with the nu-Butterfree
>>59538427Pull that thong out your Blissey, playa.
>>59537700Delphox staraptor
can I ask for some mons here?how do I trade
>>59538455Use pokemon home and post your gts listing, usually people get back to you
>>59538455If you want shinies and such, I can also gen anything from gens 1-7.
>>59538413The Great, The Former Alpha, and The Teeny mean your Pokémon is largest or smallest size, which next to being shiny and balls is one of the actual rare and visibly noticeable unique things you can have to make a Pokémon different from a normal bland one.
>>59538461>>59538469how do I share the gts listing? I just placed a spheal (female)i'm looking for a tyranitar, at least something I can edit in gameadamant with protect/knock off/low kick/rock slide if that's even possible
>>59538495Ill getchu but next time poast a screencap of the listing
>>59538498Like this?
>>59538505Yeah literally, give me 10 minutes im getting you a shiny
>>59538469Can you make a Sableye with Wonder Guard, or do they actually check for nonsense like that?
>>59538532They do check for that. It doesn't go through.
>>59538532That shit is detected in home you can't move them but they work in some of the games proper outside online play I think
>>59538532>>59538495>>59538455IQ check on this motherfucker, are you 5 or retarded?
>>59533289>>59533340oh I just noticed these posts, sorryI've not had time to play yet but the plan is Delphox, since they cover each others weaknesses and the fox was my Gen 6 starter.
SO. FUCKING. AGGRAVATING. MB4 coin flip hell, fucking how the fuck do I get to MB3
>>59538540i'm not asking for a sableye, anondon't even need shinies
>>59538469I'm going to post a level 5 Charmander from home asking for a CHARIZARD and you'd be supremely based if you gave me a shiny male As penance for asking such a thing I will not use it until I get good
>>59533922hard trick room is one of the biggest retard filters out there, you retard.
>>59538589there's actually people asking for this, whoopsI have a Hilda avatar named Tummy
I was raping Master Ball until everyone suddenly had Torkoal again.
>>59538413Titles matter a lot if you personally care about them.
>>59538583Sent you the tyranitar
>>59538608based, thank you anon
>>59538602bring something with prankster rain dance and dab on the turtle as it does mediocre chip damage and the giraffe can't do shit about it
>the opposing sneasler used coaching>gholdengo was unaffected Legitimately cannot tell if he was retarded or was intentionally throwing the game
>>59538640everyone forgets how good as gold works every once in a wh->coaching on gholdengookay maybe they are just retarded
speaking of, if you trickster support move on your own dark type, will it fizzle?
>>59538675ally dark types are still affected by prankster
>>59538681thanks, I'm tired
>>59538589Okay, I'm back. Gonna send you one now, give me 5 minutes.
>choice scarf kingambitreally nigga?
>there's not a single Delcatty on GTSwhat in the goddamn
>>59538596Did you get it?
>>59538699jolly max speed gambit outspeeds max speed timid charizard by 1 pointmaybe he's cooking
>>59538720Yep, sorry was out getting groceries. Thank you kingNice ball choice
>>59538711its annoying to find and evolve in bdsp
>>59538629It usually doesn't even get to that point. He always protects on turn 1 and I lock him in an encore trap.
>>59538757protecting turn 1 against encore mons is pretty bold
>>59538757non-prankster encore or leading something that kills the giraffe turn 1?
>>59538757>prankster encore>giraffe Hmmm
>>59536555Mega Frosslass
>>59538774Killing the giraffe on turn 1 with foul play. I run >>59534915
>>59532198it's shit
>>59538808does froslass's move ever trigger sitrus and ruin the foul play kill?
>>59538830It happened to me twice so far, but both times Sableye still managed to get the knock off. The most recent time was this morning and the berry healed it back up to 67%. Which means I got extremely lucky on the damage roll.
>>59533922I don't have much problem with it, I reduce their damage with screens + cycling in a fire water grass core and i never let them set it twice cause i prioritse getting rid of the giraffe
>>59538532I hope they add shedinja so I can use soak on it and checkmate opponents with no grass moves, electric moves, tyranitar or toxapex
>>59538763I'm surely going to win the speed tie to encore lock their whimsicott! Surely!
>>59538987the torkoal and the cottonhare, you gotta believe
>>59538732He overcooked. Occa SD gambit OKHOs Zard with Sucker Punch.
>>59538987There's not going to be a prankster speed race. If he sees an enemy Sableye on the field, that bitch is 100% clicking moonblast on turn 2.
Facing Perish Trap is always a good way to regain points from the previous loss
>>59539024hell it's getting more common these days for my opponents to straight skip tailwind and just moonblast into sableye turn 1
Sick of being a VP brokie, i wanna try that delphox + blastoise team with azumarill instead of blastoise, same concept but get to use the water and fire type in the same matches
save some vp in case there are new items to buy next season
Finna run modest torkoal with 6 speed evs so my gloking goes first for acid spray
Whimsicott brah how many floettes are you sitting on?
>start game>lose battle>quit game
>>59539213unironically gain more/lose less VP when I do this keep playing on wins, close the game and come back later on losses
Flutter mane soon
>>59539246my little blowjob machine
>>59539264shes huge
>>59539275but I'm still bigger
>>59539246Assault Vest and Ting lu next to archaludon soon
>almost lose endgame to a high horsepower misstime to take a break, i'm not tempting RNjesus any more while he's angry
Trying to improve on a Sand team is so hard. It feels like if you use Houndstone instead of Excadrill you lose a lot of offensive power, and Sinistcha is the perfect match for Ttar. Then Staraptor matches almost perfectly for the secondary mega. And what's the bulkiest water type in a good speed tier? Milotic.
What kind of team should I play to improve in general? Some flavor of meta-balance/goodstuff?
>>59539264I just got her in Home what do the chink runes mean?
That harcanine raichu sylveon farig team is very weak to mega swampert
>>59539332it translates to megusaki
>>59539354Mega sucky fucky wucky
>>59539331I started off with trick room, then played with metaslop and adjusted to my own anti meta team to counter as many archetypes and common mons as possible, only been playing doubles for 2 and a half months and peaked 727 this round and hovering around 2k. I'd give the code out but I hate mirror matches which is a big reason I diverged from metaslop and trick room, nah its a fairly small general with not too much visibility so I may as well be generousGQKCJV9Y9
>>59539366its missing a number sir
>>59539374GQKCJ7V9Y9
>>59539346are your running fake out/grass knot Y-chu?
fuck this stupid bitch fox and it being faster than everygoddsmnthing and protecting gambit from fighting types
>>59539377Interesting ninetales I thought it'd have veil for sure
whenever an opponent is threatened by a certain attack, I find 90% of the time their pattern is predictably protect->switch out, but I'm so scared of the 10% of idiot geniuses that will just stay in that I get too scared to try and make a hard read
mega arbok is coming and will be godly, trust
>>59539389Not running that team, but just what I analysed about it, too focused on taking down big 6 + trick room and while rain is rarer these days i can see it having a very hard time with it if they don't get an intimidate off on swamp and if raichu did run grass knot that'd mean keeping staraptor in base to get off tailwind
>>59539331If you want to really learn, then mix things up. You can't just copy a meta team and expect to be good if you don't know why the team was assembled that way. Try out some of the shitmons. Experiment with meme builds.
>>59539426Alcremie Lucario here I come
>>59539396Encore is just too troll of a move to give up and freeze dry just annihilates rain if i can win the weather war along with raichu and venusaur handling arch + with the focus sash its nice to keep in the back vs basculegion, sableye is the screen setter but i rarely bring him vs big 6 but is an auto include vs trick room usually
>>59539430Also sableye + ninetails is the best lead vs Perish Trap cause i can protect ninetales and encore either fake out or flare blitz from incin so it cant do the parting shot bs
>>59539430It would be funny to use Mega Sableye to remove prankster, letting you use encore on Farigiraf the turn after it sets up trick room. Not sure if its worth losing a mega slot though. You could always just give it keen eye, but then he's useless when not fighting trick room teams.
>whimsicott protect turn 1, prankster tailwind turn 2literally what are you supposed to do about this besides bring another whimsicott and win the speed tie coin toss
>>59539446easy bro, just switch in your fake out user on turn o->gets baked alive by charizard on the way in
is anyone with pkhex willing to trade me a mega floette? i dont have ZA so i dont think i can get it
>>59539439I usually just let them get the trick room up, it helps azumaril if they're using something like mega blastoise and hard trick room teams almost always use torkoal so ceruledge can get a double boost from sun + flash fire, i'd like to pull off something like protecting azumaril turn one, letting zard y set up sun and then using rain dance for a free belly drum vs big 6 but that's too matchup fishy and i've found that prankster quash is just more useful in more situations with closed team sheets at least, raichu y + ninetales is usually a good anti lead vs zard and chomp, need to protect raichu on turn 1 in case of scarf chomp though
How do i get the twitch rewards???
>>59539446trick room turn one
>>59539542watch streams tomorrow
anyone? want to get ready for the new pokes they add
>>59539574I guess although any TR setter besides farig is just getting encored
>>59539582From experience, easy to play around. Encore is eminently predictable, so it's basically a free switch-in.
remember Ttar stans always protect first turn. that knowledge alone will rise you up the ladder really fast.
>>59539458I put a shiny goldeen I caught in go into the home gts and got my eternal floette in minutesanother anon here put in a normal pink frillish and got his the same dayif you need it now, then just throw in something with even the slightest value and you'll likely get it the same dayjust remember to properly select the form when requesting the e-floette for whatever you put up to trade, I was a little confused trying to work the menu for the first time
>>59539755I don't understand why some people retards say that ttar is shit and underwhelming. It is, quite literally, one of the most versatile Pokémon ever and I keep three on hand.
>>59539755stfu I can't surprise rain weather ball them if they protect
I have nearly 80 games with frosslass, I have had 3 freezes with all of them being on non fire mons/moves that have thawed in the exact turn. I want to fucking die.
>>59539806i don't kknow how you do it bwo. slower weather setters like zard and ttar are running around committing war crimes. spraying profanities every where they go. i even CC'd a Frosslass with Lopunny one time. it sounds like hell.
>>59539820delphox is even worse than those two, at least you can pull some shenanigans on the other two by outspeeding themphox refuses to die to a max spatk modest shadow ball even if you do speed control it and still kills with heat wave anyway
>>59539820Mostly because I'm clueless, I've been playing vgc for 2 weeks now (though I've been watching content as dinner time youtube for years now. I am languishing in 1500 elo and want to fucking kill myself. This frosslass+dragonite team and the raichu+staraptor team has been my most success out of about 15 teams I gave 20 games to. But 1500 elo is obviously "kill yourself you should quit instead of wasting others oxygen." tier
>>59539855you need to fix your mindset if you are going to play this rng-fest of a "competitive" game. if you are in MB than you are above the vast swaths of troglodytes and browns that play. just relax and play shitmons, there is no reason to be angry or beat yourself up when you are in MB. if you can climb with dogshit, then you are actually good. spamming the same 10 popular pokemon as most other "sweats"(people with your current mindset) just results in games coming down to flinches, misses, and crits, even more than it already is. you are not expressing skill or really outplaying your opponent much when you are both using the same stat blocks and praying for things to go in your favor as you wait for a turn to play out.
>mega venusaur + gliscor stall.real japanese hours.
>>59539855Bro you made it to master ball from zero. I never played VGC or BSS before either. There's so much shit you have to already know or learn like Pokémon speed tiers and their movesets and shitty annoying tricks they'll pull. Just learn that and improve or just play casually and dwell on the bottom until next season. There's no penalty.
>>59539989Speed tiers aren't what's getting me too much other than not respecting a scarf or vice versa getting spooked into thinking they are scarfed and making substandard plays.My problem as a player is 3 fold and while being aware of them I almost never implement them when in actual game.1) I get team selection and turn 1 wrong a lot. Sometimes it's minor wrong (I could've snuck a cheeky tailwind in)/switch but a lot of the time it's the "They didn't respect fake out and I got blown the fuck out".2) I don't protect enough3) I don't switch enough and will often wail with neutral moves because I feel in the moment it's too risky to swap.
>start playing new team>never know what 4 to bring
Where are the garchomps??? I still need 3 more extremely effective hits
>forgot about the gift Alolan RaichuShould I keep this thing or is it unsalvageable dogshit that'll waste my precious box space? You can't use it with Mega Raichu X. You can't using it with future paradox Pokémon. They probably aren't adding Tapu Koko any time soon. They might add Pincurchin though. Was this thing ever useful?
>>59540127Electric terrain is pretty bad rn. Would need tapu koko
/vp/ meetup at Worlds?
>you can play every turn perfectly right, know your team front to back and still lose on dumb luck Fuck this game
>>59539577I sent you the wrong Mence, but it's fine.
>>59540359much appreciated anon
>>59539772nta but yeah, you're right. I put a shiny I got from a wonder trade and already have my Eternal Floette. Also got an Enamorous by putting another shiny.
>>59539446I always lead with a pokemon with fake out, so its really easy to counter. That also breaks sash which makes Whimsicott really easy to kill. It has no defenses.
>>59539806Lol, same. Except I don't even consider the 10% freeze chance when attacking. I simply pretend it doesn't exist. Its already strong enough being 110 base power + stab + it hits both enemies + it deletes whimsicott, flying types, and all dragons.
>>59539820>slower weather setters like zard and ttarYou can counter that by double protecting turn 1. Or if they catch on and do the same, then rain dance + weather ball.
>>59540348outskilled
>>59540220Fuck no.
>>59539575Do i really need to link with pokemon central? Wasnt that shit hacked?
I'm genning some stuff for myself. Does anyone want anything? Up to generation 7.
opening ceremony starting soon
>>59540938Cosmoem please, it's a pain to get one on GTS
New bread>>59541158>>59541158>>59541158
