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Mega Salamence edition

Pokémon Champions is a free to play online battle simulator available on Switch and mobile. It features ranked, casual and private battles for both singles and doubles, and will be used for VGC tournaments in 2026.

>News
Reg MC is now live.

>Resources and useful links
Community Tournaments usage data: https://pikalytics.com/
Ladder usage data: https://pokechamdb.com/en

New Player Guide(NEW PEOPLE READ THIS):
https://rentry.org/pcg-guide (now taking suggestions and feedback)
Anon made guide for brand new players to make a viable team with the starting pokemon: https://teamsheet.gg/t/sample-beginner-reg-b-vl3698

Quick FAQ
>Do I need my own Pokémon to play?
No, the game features a recruitment system, but transferring from Home is recommended to save time and resources.
>What makes the game so much more accessible than before?
All aspects of a Pokémon are customizable with VP, a currency earned simply by playing the game. IVs are also removed.
Ask in the thread if you want any specific Pokémon, and someone will respond.
>Is there single player content?
No.
>Do I need a Nintendo Online subscription?
No.
>What's the starter pack?
US$6.99 one time purchase for 50 training tickets (fully train for free), 30 Teammate Tickets (recruit Pokemon without using VP), 50 extra box space and the LGPE trainer music. Only available on Switch for now.
>Is anything locked behind a paywall?
So far everything gameplay relevant is also purchasable with VP. Only E-Floette require ZA transfer.

>/pcg/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread): https://pastebin.com/d2FJZdPh


Previous >>59578501
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complaining about zard is israeli coded
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>>59579962
Got this from the ranch.
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btw probably should remove the viable team link for newfrens because half of it is now unavailable without any gift pokemon
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>>59579985
>now unavailable without any gift pokemon
how is this an issue?
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>>59579980
Yes.
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>>59579988
>https://www.serebii.net/pokemonchampions/giftpokemon.shtml
well newfrens who install now dont have a free dragonite, machamp or raichu.
hence the guide is kind of pointless, since if they are rolling anyways, telling them to make a staraptor team is probably easier
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>>59579980
I wanna learn milk drink
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MEGA SHIT CUMSHOT
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Milktalk should be a good pokemon no? Milk drink going through partner protect seems nuts
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>>59580038
does it do anything other than that? if it has follow me it could pair up extremely well with stuff like Delphox
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Lotta mencekeks today just staying in on a-tales leads raw
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So happy Golisopod got an actual good ability. I have my shiny in a Quick Ball still in Sun, but I need to get Battle Tree ribbons for it first before I transfer. Which might kind of suck since I'm not assed enough to breed for ideal natures or IVs, I'll EV train at the minimum.
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>been playing a monotype team for most of champions
>trying to build a real team, i struggle because there are too many options and it's overwhelming
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>lopunny still keeps most pokemon in check
yup, still running my bnuuy wife
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Is Rain Dance TR Farigiraf a good partner for M-Golisopod? You essentially get a free trick room up if they don't lead with a Fire mon since they have to play around Pod either First Impressioning or Swords Dancing, and then can Rain Dance if they swap into Zard or another fire mon. Just don't know if using one of Farig's moves for Rain Dance is ideal, compared to devoting a team slot to Pelipper or something.
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>>59580024
So is that just what it translated to?
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>>59579980
Welcome to 2013, anon
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>>59580077
>>59580024
>Guso = shit
>kumusha = cumshot
I mean I guess
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Froslass + Pawmot is a boltbeam lead with fighting coverage, fake out and aurora veil btw
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wait they gave golisopod what?!
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>>59580094
loses to cinderace golisopod lead
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Invest in Swalot stocks
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>>59580104
nobody uses cinderace though
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>>59580096
>>59580024
after embracing the mr cumshot, I have to say, he does cum all over people if you set him up proper. Goddamn does leech life hits everthing
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is mega f-meowstic good now that indeedee exists
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Aside from the terrain items, did they add anything worthwhile for items?

Rocky helmet for the memes, but what other item cases are people planning?
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>>59580135
i mean, its still bootleg mega alakazam, so if you think kazam is good, then sure.
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is psyspam cancer now
i'm stuck wageslaving right now but i just scrolled tiktok and saw ~5 livestreams in a row with psychic terrain on the field
i liked using it last season with male meowstic and hatterene i will be saddened if it's meta now
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>>59580136
eject button and red card have their uses, especially in such a pivot heavy format
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>>59580136
air balloon
red card mimikyu is kino
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Will Mega Raichu X get more usage now?
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>>59580154
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seems like lucario z is encouraging more protect the king faggotry based on the few i've fought so far
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people just be leaving mence in on shit that learns ice beam
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>>59580164
Idk the cario zs ive seen just press calm mind and die
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is Goli good or just new toy syndrome that isn't even better than mega scizor
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So did Garchomp get nasty plot...?
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>>59580182
its good in general but current meta might not be. it dies to fire (zard) and it looks like psyspam is becoming meta so you have to run rilla if you want first impression
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>>59580188
no
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>>59580191
honestly? i think first impression on mega pod is a noob trap
yeah big damage priority go brrr but an entire move slot is wasted on something that's extremely predictable and useless after turn 1 on something that's tanky and likes to stay in

aqua jet or sucker punch are better priority options and go leech life or u turn for bug STAB depending on whether you have good pivots or not
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>>59580194
the consensus i've been seeing is to bait people thinking you're gonna first impression, when you actually set up a swords dance. pair with giraffe for tr, profit
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>>59580193
>mixed attacker
>isn't able to boost its special attack
Mehga KWABchomp Z
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>>59580182
Im running it with trick room support under rain and it is pretty good, Though this is low ladder and once opponent catches on, it probably over. Still though, goli hits insanely hard, and noone really wants to eat his hits even on neutral.
I think team comps just swings to double threats as compared to protect the castle style, so its like alright, maybe B+ tier.
Never understood the scizor comparison. People rarely if ever play mega scizor, and even when they do its some combination of anti trick room plus countering floette, which goli just does it better.
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luZario and monke fake out everywhere making me want to regress back to ghostfag only team
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>>59580193
Dang, thanks
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honestly mega bax just seems redundant over normal bax, it seems like a mega chomp tier mega to me instead of a mega dnite kind of mega
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>>59580182
its still gonna be "bulky Scizor with Leech Life" and "Scizor with better Trick Room speed" so I think its always going to be relatively equal to Mega Scizor just used for different contexts, and Mega Scizor is fine
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>>59580207
i think it makes sense that this happens more to pseudos and their megas
if you start with 600 then going to 700 is only a 16% increase in BST, which is not a whole lot compared to a useful held item
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>>59580170
mega mence was overhyped for months and the result is people thinking they are invincible
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>have like 10 billion special attack
>your best special moves are 80 base power
what were they thinking
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who gonna try stuff cheeks body press swalot
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Tried psyspam, I’m getting trashed by rilla gambit.
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>>59580207
snow megabax is kind of a pain to deal with but yeah it's nothing crazy it dies to all of the other new megas
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>>59580216
draco meteor
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>>59580217
you're late buddy
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>>59580218
damn i guess we need a surefire answer to rillagambit, hmm, i wonder, hmm, who could, hmm, hmm, its on the tip of my tongue, hmm,
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>>59580229
lucario Z doesn't learn draco meteor though
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>>59580232
yay :)
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>>59580234
sorry i thought you were shitting on garchomp, carry on
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can you believe this was just asking for a japanese alcremie? crazy
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>counter to Salamence
poison
>counter to Golisopod
electric

but how do you defeat them in one attack? fuckers are durable, If you give them two attacks you are done

and I wanna past masterball level aaaagh
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fuck I have not been this interested in pokemon since emerald
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>>59580254
Yeah I love a year of Charizard with some other shitters. The best 'mon finally owns the game. Who needs other shit?
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trying mono water but nothing with prankster hurts a bit
need my control gremlins to function

that and blastoise being the only fake out user
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They really need to add a way to seperate new players and people who got to master rank when the season resets
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I can see scarf cinderace could be pretty good
>pyro ball checks max hp max def+ m-pod
>hjk checks gambit
>gunk shot checks fairies
>smack down surprise checks zard
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I just went 0-3 in Pokeball tier due to horrible luck. This game fucking sucks.
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>>59580280
>0-3 in pokeball
imagine losing to the fucking bot
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Theoretically, what could be added to truly change up the meta? Or at least get people to stop complaining about it being a Zard-Y meta finally?
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>>59580262
Doing Monotype is a really fun limitation, but yeah making a team balanced type-wise is often easier than having to work without common tools. My type's sole Fake Out user is not in the game yet (Palossand???), so you have to play the game in a different way than other people. Just switching can be a much more hazardous prospect on monotype teams than in mixed teams, so you need to careful planning and good reads.
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>>59580302
Coalossal?
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>>59580302
salamence teams will be a new check on zard venusaur at least
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>>59580234
Steel beam and focus--
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give me your best psyspam team
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>>59580257
>not brainstorming ways to make the shitters usable

couldn't be me
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>>59580302
nothing short of deleting megas will change anything
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>>59580302
There's no single mon that's going to dethrone Zard.
You need to think of this as opportunity cost, we need enough mons that outvalue Zard Y for it be a lesser choice than another.
This could happen in a sub-legendary format, maybe. It will definitely happen in a restricted format.
So basically you need about 30-40 mons added that are actually good and don't just enable Zard more.
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>>59580248
ZA shinies are easy to get, if i play a day i can get a box full of them
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>>59580302
I don't give a shit about zard I just hate basc/gambit in every game
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>>59580330
play rilla zucario until they are extinct inshallah
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>>59580314
Salamence fills the same role as Dnite in terms of Zard matchup. What's likely to happen is that Charizard's partners get a little shake up to mitigate that matchup or they just use Floette.
I've seen a lot of people tout Salamence, but none have posted a set and they aren't being realistic about why the main team archetypes are good.
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>>59580318
Galar really liked fucking over weak Pokémon for no reason. Why did they give it a special attacking spread but a physical move pool? Is having a little synergy too much for a mon with a low BST?
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>>59580330
This guy here, he gets it.
Charizard is good, but very fair. On the other hand we have so few options for good partners that Basc/Gambit end up being on the majority of teams.
That likely won't change until we get all the more powerful non-restricted legendaries.
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the camel's stocks keep going up
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>>59580341
mence is at least more threatening to floette
will likely lead to more incineroar though in response
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>>59580302
Meat will check zard and gambit hard enough to lower their use rates
sneasler however...
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>>59580292
I obviously wasn't counting the bot, retard.
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>>59580318
Yeah I can't wait to see what combination of Kingambit - Charizard - Sneasler - Incin - Whimsicott will help my shitter win games
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>>59580360
They'll lead Whims and Floette.
You'll want Sneasler on every Mence team for sure.
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>>59580369
The Thievul is supposed to be paired with Rillaboom, so not all 5 of those.
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>>59580357
I haven't had much chance to play the new reg yet, how's it faring? I've had a good time with it the last few months. Eruption wiping the field is sometimes enough to get people to resign, even with two mons in the back. I know it'll roast Rillaboom (provided you can suppress the priority Grassy Glide).
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niggas in ultra ball sometimes pull some outlandish shit i mistake them for bots
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stop calling him golisopod his name is shit cumshot
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>>59580357
Wait, Camerupt got a buff?
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There is way less lag in the menus now, is that a Switch 2 thing or overall improvement? I honestly didn't have much faith they would bother to fix it
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>>59580389
nope seems like it is an optimization fix, everyone's saying everything is much smoother now
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anyone try mega alakazam expanding force yet
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>>59580266
I've been using him a bit, he's going to be niche but he's a surprisingly good niche. Using stuff like WIll-o-wisp has been good for crippling physical attackers and I've been catching Indeede's and Giraffe's off with U-turn just enough to finish them off. He's still an absolute monster in Singles though, especially in this Meta.
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>Politoad loses Pound
Oh, no.......
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I just woke up.
How shit is Garchomp Z?
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is it just me or does salamence feel kinda mid
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>>59580421
I haven't seen anyone talk about it yet
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>>59580421
It's half decent, best fast draco user in the game and earth power niche even doe it lost its stab on that
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>>59580421
as bad as everyone thought it would be
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>>59580429
It's going to be mid by itself.
You know those Floette/protect the queen teams?
I think Salamence could be a good second mega in that setting. Set up a light screen, have Mence dragon dance, use Sinistcha to heal up, and Incin to fake out, Intimidate, and flare blitz ice types.
Mence will find several teams that it can run on, but despite its insane single target damage output, many other megas outrun it in spread damage these days.
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>>59580421
I mean, it's alright. Good if you wanna compete in the Z speed tiers I guess.
just use life orb dragapult
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>>59580397
You should.
Bring psychic seed Sneasler to deal with the inevitable Gambit.
The challenge may be overcoming priority Tailwind. Whatever Whims' partner is will probably KO Zam.
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>>59580429
it's just the ones piloting it right now are dumb netdeckers
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>>59580450
>priority tailwind
your follow me?
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>perishNIGGER resorts to timer-stalling the moment he's on a backfoot.
Every fucking time.
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>>59580421
It's a humiliation ritual.
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>>59580442
swalot :)
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GOLISOPOD BROS I JUST SAW THE NEWS. WE'VE WON!
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>>59580154
Look at this shit. Tell me. Do you think Toxtricity is going to use electric terrain well at all?
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https://poal.me/caoqr1
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>>59580442
It's just not worth as a main mega, duh, but it's not even worth a side-mega.
Frankly, it doesn't even function as a side-mega because then if you wanna use it special you'll have a special base garchomp that'll hit like a sissy. It's contradictory as a whole.
The muh surprise aspect is worthless in open sheet and in closed sheet it never works in practice because normal mega is fucking worthless and since base special garchomp is a sissy then you have to mega it right away so it's useful.
The only "way" to use it as a "surprise" is to use it physical but it all but requires a set-up move so it can hit hard but then you're wasting half the point of the mega and the only really viable way to use it that way is to tech draco meteor but then you do the calcs and the meteor doesn't hit as much as you'd think.
It's simply not worth the opportunity cost in any shape whatsoever. It's mediocre in all aspects and tailwind and trick room are back at the forefront to deal with psychic terrain neutering priority so even the 151 speed won't be doing as good as you'd think.
The absolute blunder of the century. I seriously don't understand why GF still thinks this is gen 4 where Garchomp is a monster capable outclassing even the cover legendaries so it refuses to make it "broken" and keeps thinking it has to "balance it" so it doesn't "break the game".
Well, third time's the chance. Maybe the G-Max move in Legends Galar will be a Wildfire clone or something.
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guys has anyone seen swampert
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If people were complaining about the giraffe being unkillable they will kill themselves if Grassy Seed Farigiraf becomes a thing
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indeedee female is fucking cracked
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round memes with dragapult + m-gardevoir is pretty fun
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>>59580482
It's already a thing.
Same way electric seed was when paired with Miraidon.
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>>59580486
they really let her keep trick room
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>>59580481
no but I did see a chimp fucking ripping his face off
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Fede Campo is still running Zard/rain
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>>59580497
Yep, Rillaboom's presence just negates Swampert entirely.
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>>59580500
Isn't that the line skipping scalper?
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>Decide to try Mega Lucario Z
>???
>Where's Follow Me?
WHAT THE FUCK WHY DID THEY REMOVE FOLLOW ME FROM LUCARIO FUCK YOU I HAD SUCH A NICE IDEA BUT NOW IT'S RUINED
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>>59580500
*with Golisopod instead of Venusaur
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>>59580381
>life orb, drill peck corviknight
what the fuck are these niggas smoking?
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>>59580476
electric seed sneasler
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>you finally manage to beat that stallmon
>revival blessing
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>>59580193
Not even work-up?
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>>59580527
>Opponent sacrifices a Pokemon to kill Mega Victreebell
>Bring it back
Could be funny
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>Terrain Pulse Mega Blastoise
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>>59580510
Good, stop using the SHIT EATING FAGGOT DOG
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>>59580482
I'm more concerned about Psychic Seed Archaludon
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so whos the best new mega
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>>59580564
kill yourself
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>>59580527
how does it interact with a ditto
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I downloaded this game last night. Is this team sufficient enough to start with? I don't have any other games as resources
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>>59580600
male?
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>Look up Garchomp Z out of curiosity
>Get a ton of Japanese videos titled things like "Garchomp Z breaks the meta"
>Wonder what kind of nihongo mahou are they using
>They're just playing Battle Spot Singles
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>>59580600
Yeah, it's good. Shouldn't have much issue getting to Ultra.
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>opponent opens with indeedee and hatterene
>have to guess which one is setting trick room
>guess wrong
well damn
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>>59580621
your prison deedee?
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>>59580607
I haven't played in a few gens, do I have something that should be female?
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sometimes you can just end games turn 1 with icetales mdd lead
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what if mega blaziken z?
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>>59580647
>it's just mega blaziken but with a skill that lowers its speed every turn
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been trying out the froslass pawmot lead because
>muh boltbeam
and everyone just fucking doubles down on pawmot kek, my froslass gets free blizzards and then revives thanks to focus sash if I position the dog well enough, I think it's a good replacement for Lycanroc, that team matches up so damn well into so many things
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>>59580656
Ngl, I kinda want an attacking move that raises the target's speed, like opposite Bulldoze. Gotta get that sweet sweet max Gyro Ball damage
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Its odd how AbsolfZags and GarchompZkeks are in complete and total absolute denial of them being shitmons and keep coming up with the most ridiculous mental gymnastics about how theyre totally good while LucarioZfurries accepted it would be useless day 1 and moved on with their day.
Why are Absolfags and Garchompfags so full of copium?
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>>59580673
I got bodied by absol Z in singles after they sticky web'd me
I did misplay that game a few times though
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>>59580669
Flame Charge, Trailblaze, Sclae Shot
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>>59580679
absol z seems like it was built for singles and thats ok
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Best use of Lucario Z: kill yourself
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>>59580679
>Singles
We all know they'll be good to very good in BSS, those three. Talking about VGC here.
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What's the verdict on our boy Shitcumshot?
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So Incineroar, Basculegion and Rillaboom are the new FWG bara trio
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>>59580690
Big winner.
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Anything cute i can pull off with my fat chud son here? They gave him Stuff Cheeks and Body Press
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>>59580608
why are they like that though
literally every single clip I've seen on xitter from a jap account is on BSS
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>>59580662
Losing Lycanroc would mess with your Zard matchup since they can bait Double Shock into something else and you'd have to switch out to use it again, wouldn't it?
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>>59580683
The target, not the user
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>>59580699
Nips are massive corporate slurpers. GF told them there's only 3vs3 singles competitively officially so that is what they will play even if their life depended on it because that's what their overlords told them how things should be like.
See: All the recent twitter shitstorms over piracy and how they all went THINK OF THE POOR MULTI-BILLION CORPORATIONS.
Nips are extreme sheep in this regard for whatever reason.
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>>59580699
Japs are fucking retarded. It's the same in tcg were they all do retard shit
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>>59580690
He's really good. I gotta update my mono-bug team to fit him in. Or maybe mono-steel?
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>>59580698
this is how I run it but you could also try corrosive gas memes it'll live through most things that aren't boosted psychics and puts the fear of god into the thrilla rilla and floette
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>>59580302
Mega Blastoise Y that sets rain when transformed. That's literally it.
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>>59580698
Audino Simple Beam to double the defense buffs
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>>59580734
still dies to venu arch
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>>59580736
Ok, then pair him with a Sneasler or something for coverage. We are talking about doubles, right?
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>>59580698
>Don't remember Stuff Cheeks being added in the update
>Greedent isn't in this game
So when did--?
>They gave it to the elemental monkeys
Interesting. I wish they would have taken the chance to give it to Diggersby, Dedenne, and Maushold. You know, the cheek pouch Pokémon?
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>>59580700
yeah that's the one thing, you have a much better matchup into rain and a gambit counterlead, I'm tinkering with it and seeing if he can swap out lycanroc and sneasler both so rilla can get in instead, then again the zard matchup is worse in that case
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psychic terrain should affect flying mons so zard can be protected from accelerock
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>>59580762
Farig is better insurance.
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>>59580762
Chairzard Y should have its ability changed to Delta Stream, but with added Drought.
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how is my boy mega aerodactyl
did he survive
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Archaludon genocide when?
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Camel stocks might be going up if Golisopod gets popular, its slower so it goes first in trick room. Golisopods only hope is if they lead Camel and can OHKO it before TR goes up, but even then you can use Torkoal first to set up sun
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r8 it
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>>59580801
6/7
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>>59580801
revive is a meme on non hyper offense
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>>59580813
if your mega dies does it get revived as a mega/can it re-mega evolve?
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I am shocked that GameFreak ILCA actually added quality of life improvements and menus. Some big steps in the right direction
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>>59580821
What did they add besides the pick type adv shit
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>>59580817
it stays mega
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>>59580821
NTA, but I noticed that in the achievements menu, mons with 10/50 wins now have a silver/gold border
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I guess Aura Guard is worthless.
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>>59580317
I've been having fun with this since it has good odds of shutting down opposing psyspam even through TR thanks to quash + gravity hypnosis
If it looks retarded, that's because it is
sceptile rotom is there because I got sick of rain
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>>59580847
>he actually tried it
Insane, hope it worked out
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>>59580823
They added a menu to see all the in game tickets you have like quick coupons, team tickets, type tickets.

You can now see the Mega abilities for respective Pokémon.

They made it more clear when season ends on the front page.

A few other minor things, just helpful info to have in general
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pincurchin
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>>59580801
What team builder are you using? Looks nicer than Pokepaste
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>>59580852
After trying it out for a bit it's not as shit as it may seem at first glance since no one expects the fast 100% accurate hypnosis turn one
and Delphox is bulky enough on the special side to take a couple neutral hits comfortably, so any usual psyspam lead becomes setup fodder for your own spam engine
Especially opposing indeedee as it gives you the terrain without having to switch into your own
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>>59580847
Doesnt levitate disable delphox expanding force shenanigans?
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>>59580871
That's what gravity sableye is there to fix
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>>59580875
Mb literally glanced right past it, isn't the setup troublesome though?
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squawkabilly is actually alright it's basically support staraptor with a wider movepool
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>>59580891
NOOO EVERYONE TOLD ME ITS SOO BAD
it gets parting shot too kek
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>>59580879
It is a bit gimmicky and depending on gravity puts your main tactic on a timer you can't really extend, but Delphox is fast enough even with modest that you're very likely to instantly sleep something unless there's tailwind or scarf involved (which quash helps with), which usually buys you the free turn you need in order to switch Indeedee in and start spamming helping hand EF or heat wave
And then afterwards you still have unburden Sneasler in the back for cleanup
And don't sleep on helping hand foul play, since Delphox brings out a lot of physical attackers that threaten it
I saw that shit OHKO a Swampert once
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>>59580801
breddy gud, been trying the same but with mega scov and basc instead of mence and incin, I have to try out mega mence now
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>>59580733
Is there a point to using this over stockpile+leftovers+gunk shot? Body press doesnt seem that strong to be worth it.
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>>59580899
stuff cheeks gives you a +2 to def as well as eating the berry, but without a fighting tera backing it its not gonna be that good
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>>59580899
10 intimidates and steel types and ghosts later you will ask yourself why you did this
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>>59580892
Oricorio would've been more interesting.
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My opponents are faggoty cunts today, seasons need to have a ban list so the Fish Fuckers can all figure something else out. God damn losers
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>>59580908
Agreed, but I've played enough randbats to know Squawk can be an annoying faggot with 30 different sets and Oricorio can do nasty stuff
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newb here. what're everyone's impressions on grapploct? technician storm throw + mach punch is an absolutely insane upgrade, but i'm having a bit of trouble whenever i run into megamence. i usually pair it with farigiraf to protect+trickroom, but farigiraf sometimes has trouble dealing with aerialate hypervoice and the other pokemon using a powerful move on it. maybe weavile (with white herb?) could be a good partner?
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just beat thebattleroom
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>>59580911
Just don't bring it to a match match bro
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>>59580912
Conor bros... we've fallen off... /pcg/ is getting their lol on all over our channel
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I'm having such hard battles in Great Ball. I guess the good people still haven't made it to MB4.
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>>59580933
I'm hardstuck in ultra ball this season...
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>>59580793
Golisopod has Aqua Jet, though.
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Does great ball have bots?
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>>59580947
i think yes but you gotta lose more to trigger them
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>>59580733
Is there even a good berry worth eating in champions? It only has the super effective berrys and sitrus right?
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>>59580942
Tell me if I did the calc wrong, but if not then camel wins even in rain
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>>59580954
lum berry has a small niche on things that just really really don't want to be burned or paralyzed
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Can anybody help a nigga out please and thank you
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>>59580959
or at least has a 50/50 shot to win in rain I should say (which you're probably gonna have a sun setter to fix that before it gets there)
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>>59580959
>150 base atk with tough claws can't guarantee OHKO even with rain up and quad weakness

what the hell, camerupt isn't even that tanky
you could intentionally not mega in this matchup though to not get insta kwabbed by the eruption at least
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>can't name golisopod shit cumshot
literally unplayable
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Bros, I'm trying to make a team with Mega Ampharos with Cotton Guard to rape Mega Mence and Mega Bax but I don't know what to add after Farig. Do any Trick Room players have any suggestions?
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>>59580973
you could try the new milk drink gogoat to keep it alive if you wanna play protect the king, otherwise just the usual support mons with redirect and fake out
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>>59580982
So just Sinistcha, Kikecineroar and the rest of the gang?
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>>59580968
call it Kumushot like the japanese name
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>>59580938
>hardstuck this season...
bro its day 1
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>>59580962
Enjoy anon. Also still have plenty of Golisopods if anyone wants one.
On a semi related note: does anyone have a spare male Alpha Basculegion or one with a Paldea title? Have my own from when I borrowed a friend’s Switch earlier in the year but was unable to get a male alpha Basculegion and forgot to take a photo with my one. Don’t like the strange balls one bit but can tolerate them if the Pokemon in question was a former alpha.
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>>59580962
Did one of you niggas give me a shiny HOLY SHIT thanks if so
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>>59580967
Possibly, but you might get cheesed by emergency exit if you're doubled up. It's likely due to Solid Rock cutting its power down 25% but still.
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https://x.com/akerubii64/status/2097648344806158442
Pfft. (Surely they just used a Physical Chomp for this.)
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>>59580990
Holy shit it was shiny you are so goated I would suck you dry if possible thanks anon
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>>59580973
an intimidator so farig doesn't get raped
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any mr mime sets
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>>59580992
megarupt doesn't keep solid rock
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>>59580993
56% what are we doing here
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>>59580987
I'm unemployed
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Need baxcalibur please, gen one if it's hard to get idc
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>>59581001
A friend used Mr Mime religiously when we were all in high school doing VGC in 2014 to 2016. I’ll see if I kept it on one of my 3DS carts and what the moveset and EVs were. Wasn’t the best Pokemon but was really fun.
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>>59580959
Camerupt has Sheer Force, not Solid Rock.
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>>59580967
>>59581002
Oh the damage calculator goofed, I didn't realize it was adding Solid Rock on to the pre-made M-Camel set. This looks more accurate. It only OHKOs in rain though so gotta have a rain setter and hope it doesn't have Torkoal to set sun, though.
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>put in three eevees for kingambits
>got three kingambits back, not even the shiny genned ones just seemingly legit ones
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>>59580993
It's genuinely embarrassing that this is the kind of Garchomp Z has been reduced to try to make it work. This is the kind of thing meme shit you see shitters trying out with their favorite shitmon just to prove those evil Smogonites wrong.
Really have no idea what was GF thinking for once. It's almost malicious.
Garchomp's second Mega reduced to being played like a Slaking or Regigigas. How sad.
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Masterball with Golisopod Rain team.
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>>59581012
I have to imagine it's one of the easier mons to shiny farm given the way Bisharp and Pawniard spawn in SV.
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>>59581015
They just had an event
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>>59581013
It prob has a very small niche as the premier Earth Power user with a top 3 Draco in the game but its competition is like, hydreigon? Kinda sad opportunity cost makes it pretty shit
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Garchomp Z is gonna be good bros 151 speed bro draco meteors out of 141 spatk bro copers sure have been quiet all day.

>>59581018
Maybe if it'd kept Ground.
There's genuinely no point in running EP because of how pitiful the damage is.
It's a Draco Meteor and x4 weaknesses merchant because otherwise every fucking thing survives (and half the things survive the Draco too)

I'm genuinely starting to believe the OG Mega may actually be better.
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>>59581011
Thinking about it, Sableye might be a good M-Golisopod partner. It's got Screens, can set rain to help mitigate Charizard memes, and Quash to ensure you can pick off faster threats (or slower, like M-Camel in TR). The question is if it's worth running in this format compared to other options.
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>>59581013
The funny part is that you can use that strat with regular Garchomp anyway and it's probably better.
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>>59581021
Is there any stab earth power user in the game even? Crazy they didnt add the nidos but yeah its not great but hes pretty much the best user desu, it sucks but its ALRIGHT in balance but yeah the opportunity cost etc really sad
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>>59581024
It's actually better with Mega Garchomp because with the lower speed you can run some meme TR comp alongside it too. And you'll have EP coverage.
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>>59581028
The camel
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>>59581028
>Is there any stab earth power user in the game even?
Mega Camerupt
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>>59581034
Damn bro, even funnier the 30th time
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>>59581028
The problem is that it's fucking Garchomp. The fucking second fucking Mega Garchomp. It's not something that should be just "alright" in a million years.
I tried to cope with something that could also be supportive because of the speed and then I realized Garchomp doesn't fucking learn SHIT there.
It's crazy how lacking Garchomp's moveset it but at the same time it learns just exactly all it needs.
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is mega baxcalibur even worth it over life orb or some other shit
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>>59581028
Camerupt is the only one that comes to mind

>>59581028
I would have loved for Nidoking to be in the game. Not the best Pokemon in existence but I think it could have done very well in the current formats.
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>>59581037
It's probably gonna day 2 something here and there, I mean the other mega chomp was number 1 on the ladder ( but it's EP was a lot stronger... ) but yeah it's really disappointing, I've been running it and barely 2 shotting arch feels a bit absurd, taking away nasty plot was retarded too.
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>>59581043
I honestly don't understand why GF still thinks this is Gen 5 where Garchomp needs to be "controlled" somehow. All while continuing to create the most min-maxxed motherfuckers ever.
Maybe there's an anti-Cynthia schizo working at the competitive division.
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>>59581023
tbdesu sableye can be a good partner for basically anything, that little fucker is so versatile i struggle to teambuild without it
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it should've been mega haxorus
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>>59581047
Probably because Garchomp even in a mega meta is top 5 or 6 in the game?
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mega garchomp forms don't work because the whole reason garchomp is good is versatility and ability to slap it on any team
megas usually fulfill specific role and require you to build around them instead, and chomp just isn't made for that
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>>59581052
Which only happens on cucked low-powerlevel metas. The second the big boys come out Garchomp becomes a total literally who.
Garchomp has never been able to keep up with a single any natdex meta of any sort ever since Gen 6. It unironically needs all the help it can get at this stage of its life.
Besides, Garchomp Z was already halfway designed by the time Champions was even a twinkle of anyone's eyes, much less the initial picks for MA. What you're saying is irrelevant to the point and frankly fucking retarded.
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>>59581073
in other words, garchomp is great in the only formats that are fun and worth giving a shit about
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>>59581075
Whatever you say copelord.
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>>59581073
>ummm actually its bad because it gets owned by primal groudon
lol?
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>>59581058
OG Mega Chomp would be everyfuckingwhere had it kept the 112 speed they were gonna give it.
Z Chomp would be everyfuckingwhere had it kept Ground and even better gotten an actually good ability.
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>Pokeball type guaranteed tickets
Is this new? This is one of those things I was saying before it's crazy there weren't any items to influence the Pokeballs of your pulls. I assume these would be for sale somewhere.
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>>59581084
>Thought I was talking about restricted metas
Retard.
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What's a good mega to pair up with Lucario Z? I tried Salamence with incin on the team it feels troublesome with the anti intimidate mons, I was thinking bax but I'm not sure, can I get some suggestions?
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Can anybody suggest a good Mega Shit Cumshot team? I could do rain but I hate toilet bird so would have to be w Politoed who I love anyway and I’m just gonna be climbing anyway. I tried this team that originally had Megagross but it’s not been a perfect swap plus idk if it can handle new threats that well
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>>59581089
Nta but what are you talking about then because Garchomp has basically always been good at worst, even in the infamous Pachirisu finals he’s one of the Pokemon.
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>>59581091
pelipper with wide guard/ice beam/weather ball/tailwind
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wolfe glick limtless tour team
https://play.limitlesstcg.com/tournament/6aa00639a4272c53be64abbd/player/wolfey/teamlist
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>>59581100
nvm I'm retarded pelipper isnt a mega
imagine if he got one though jesus christ how horrifying
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Sucks they nerfed Garganacl he was a fun wide guard user
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>>59581103
I am pushing the agenda that he's getting an Evo next game, I mean its WIND and WAVES come on. Trust me.
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noob here
can you mega evolve and z mega in one battle?
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>>59581108
Z megas are just a subset of megas like any other, that'd be cute though.
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>>59581102
rain psyspam seems cool actually
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>>59581102
>running a team with no basc check again
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>>59581035
Get used to it because that's his name now.
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vgc twitter doesnt seem to like this new format, i like it. its different then MA and MB which is most important
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>>59581117
the basc check is his own scard basc, and e force garde
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>>59581122
Psyspam is viable for one so it's atleast MA2.5
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>>59581122
vgc twitter tends to overract to stuff because overracting gets you likes and reposts.
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>>59581122
i like this format cause i can use mega salamence for the first time, and i plan on going to a regional soon, so i can play it there as well. dont give a shit about anything else
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>>59581048
Its crazy how he can basically do anything
>fake out
>encore
>foul play
>light screen
>reflect
>rain dance
>thunder wave
>will-o-wisp
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Indeedee I am needy for a female indeedee
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>>59581151
only one person used it at worlds. it was common on rain teams, but they all dropped him on the sun rain swampet stuff
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>>59581155
Post a begging trade image coward
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please let will o wisp proc thermal exchange
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>>59581166
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>Metronome is now in the game, Pawmot can learn it
>but not anyone else who normally can like Clefable, Wigglytuff, Machamp, Gengar, Swalot, etc
Why?
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>>59581166
>>59581177
wisp doesnt proc the thermal exchange, but bax wont feel the effects of the burn
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I cannot get mega salamence to work...
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>>59581158
if you just want screens, you probably want grimmsnarl. sableye got that rain + quash tho
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>>59581158
I don't care about the top meta. I'm happy just fucking around in Master Ball 4.
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I don't understand why they keep refusing to give Pincurchin volt switch. Would it really be that broken? Its only options of pivoting are memento and self destruct.
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what is inteleon good for
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>>59581236
counters the slug

note the slug is not in the game presently
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>>59581094
Garchomp is completely useless in any meta where Landorus exists, for as long as Landorus has existed
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niggas out here flame charging they own bax to get +1 speed and give it +1 attack
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after 5 straight hours of testing, I can confidently say Pawmot outclasses Sneasler in the classic Froslass Scov team, switching out Lycanroc for Rillaboom is debatable but I liked it a lot too, both pair up really well with both megas and revival blessing memes work since the megas are so good
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>>59581261
I tried to strength sap my own gambit last reg, you play and learn the hard way sometimes
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>indeedee + megazam
>tailwind eject button talonflame
>make rest of team hostile to gambit and incin
>trick room on indeedee for opposing trick room
>profit
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>>59581264
Alright, I'm sold.
What was that team's gameplan in MB, and how does it change with Pawmot?
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>>59581269
flame charge works tho
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So is megamence going to be as broken as usual or is it somehow going to end up with less usage than zard y anyways
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>Lost Knock Off

Well fuck me, Drill Run or Poison Jab for a Bulk Up set?
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>>59581282
Oh, that's good to know
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>>59581288
maybe, it's good into zard and cumshot i dunno what tech is out there for it other than floette who can't switch into it
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>>59580104
Based
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man I hate playing against good players
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>>59581280
https://pokepast.es/9c40e1ccf2cf54f5
it's pretty simple, just mega evolve froslass and click blizzard until the things in front of her die. Pawmot keeps pelipper and gambit in check, double shock just hits really fucking hard in general, you can take out revival for protect if you're not gonna play him by pivoting a lot, but having rage powder and veil with fake out lets him live for longer than he should. Bring Scov when the opposing team hard checks froslass or if they just have a lot of physical attackers, he also keeps a bunch of common threats in check.
Gambit can run the swords dance set, I just like iron head more
Rillaboom is a personal pick, if you want to rape and gape all zards, bring lycanroc instead, I just think rilla makes matchups against other weather teams more manageable so you don't get forced into picking scovillain whenever you face them. Anyway it's a really intuitive and easy to pilot team that can also change its movesets a bit, have fun
now I just have to figure out a good team for M-Lopunny, my m-b team doesn't cut it anymore
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>tfw i can finally fit hamurott on my team and I won't be bitching so much about basc anymore
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so whos wearing the rocky helmet
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Is Sirfetch’d just a silly meme? Seems like it’d make anything explode if it can land a hit
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>>59581342
don't let your memes be dreams meteor assault everything
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>>59581342
He can maybe delete something once.
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>just tried to encore Tyranitar
You know, with all the noob-friendly mechanics they're adding, you'd think they'd tell you that prankster moves don't work on dark types.
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>>59581355
>Sirfetch’d used meteor assault
>Oranguru used instruct!
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waiting for the cybertron team before starting the season
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>>59581365
Unfortunately any two slightly brolic support mons will not only outspeed him but can kill him with a stern look.
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>>59581335
>two things with sitrus berry
Uh anon
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Winner team
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>>59581423
Priority...IS STRONG!
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>>59581423
mfw i had 5/6 mons in the builder since before champs, and got to master ball with them
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>>59581423
you guys told me menceslop wouldn't be a thing
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>>59581438
Literally nobody told you that.
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>>59581438
you mean the voices in your head?
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>>59581423
>basculegion kingambit sneasler
there is no escape
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>>59581402
oops, Pawmot is supposed to be Sash for obvious reasons
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is delphox just bad now
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>>59581423
Noob question here: Why no dragon stab? and how do you pick a nature for a mixed attacker?
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I want to make Helmet Garchomp work but I'm so terrible at building my own teams
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>>59581289
Drill Run fucks several types that Bug and Steel don't do anything to, I don't think you'd need Jab if you're running Iron Head
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>>59581500
dragon offers no useful coverage
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>>59581500
Dragon only checks other dragons and Mence's Aerilated Hyper voice and DE hit harder than any of its dragon moves could. Most other dragons get checked by other mons on the team, other mence's, dragonites, bax all get checked by arcanine and chomp will go down to a few neutral hits
>ev spreads
you usually never run a mixed attacker, megamence is like the one exception so you can just look up what it runs as a mixed attacker
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>>59581500
there aren't a lot of things that like getting hit by flying stab which is neutral on most things and the only relevant dragons don't really like switching into it anyway
that mence is running -SpD since it's not really tanking specials
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>>59581500
i have draco on my mence for the mirror and for the bridge
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>lose one game
>get nothing but botslop
>just give up and let the game pick my moves for me
>kicks me and makes me lose to the bot for going AFK
I fucking hate this game.
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Surprising Charizard Y's with Smack Down Cinderace is the funniest shit
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>>59581565
I fucking love that rabbit
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i think h-goodra would be ok in this meta
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>>59581565
I didn't know he get's Smack Down wtf
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Post your outfits so I can steal ideas
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>>59581607
but are you a boy or a grill
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>>59581607
>be white person
>equip a green jacket
>every avatar ends up looking like ben 10
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how long til everybody's running mence
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>>59581623
I picked girl since I'm used to them having better clothing options but it doesn't seem like it here
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>>59581578
I think you might be right, I just went against one with my dual core mega golispod and salamance rain team, and there was legit nothing I could do to it. It sheltered first turn and a -1 draco meteor did 12% damage.
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>dont want to use gambit
>psyspam is back on the menu
>psyspammers have fairy coverage
>have to use gambit
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>>59581438
You can't just add "-slop" to every word and pretend you have a point.
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>>59580993
embarassing
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>My Kingambit vs Mega Mence
>His shit deals no damage at all
>Sucker him almost dead
>Starts protect spamming
>Suddenly Roosts
>Start to rotate protect and roost for no fucking reason other than wasting our time
>it's a nigger with white dreads
mfw
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>>59581655
trust me man mixing and matching here is a lot easier for girls, look at your boy opponents and they'll be mostly boring or gay
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brb transing my char right now
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>>59580993
>https://x.com/akerubii64/status/2097648344806158442
OOF
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>>59581499
Outclassed by megazam and mega gardevoir now we've got indeedee
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Daily reminder. If you see this bastard on the field, do not use protect.
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I bet you didn't even know they added this thing
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>>59581635
I faced 1 out of 10 teams with one, got tailwind up for mega gardevoir so wasn't much of a problem
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>>59581697
this is a lie, you should absolutely protect and especially stay in on the turn after protecting and not switch out, there is nothing sableye can do to stop it
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Someone spoonfeed me a psyspam team please, I just got a shiny Armarouge, so him and deedee + sneedler. maybe gambit? whos in for my last 2 slots
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>>59581712
>>59581697
>protect
>switch
easy free switch :^)
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>hurr terrain extender will be a useless item cause there will be terrain wars
>only ran into rillaboom once and can't see pincurchin getting much use
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So glad mega alakazam is now viable, ohko'ing basculegion and not having to worry about it outspeeding with a scarf is a nice change of pace from maining ychu as a mega
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What's the tldr on the bridge, how did it get nerfed?
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>>59581698
I don't even know this things name.
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>>59581759
Lost Metal Burst and Mirror Coat, apparently it was too strong in BSS
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Whats up with the "hey, people downloaded the game wrong, we'll ban you" notice in News? Is it just phone emulators?
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>indeedee f doesn't get expanding force or gravity
I guess psychic/psyshock is alright for wide guard niggas but not so fond of rolling the dice with focus miss even though I have sneasler
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>>59581780
apks probably
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>>59581777
i mean ive seen it a couple of times in bss, but more often its still stamina/sneaky pebbles, draco meteor.
i take it this is a hit to stall in bss specifically
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>>59581759
People ran sturdy on it instead of stamina in singles and you can guess what it could do
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i feel like the battle logs could be trimmed a lot more.
there is no reason for
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abomasnow used aurora veil
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but it failed
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just slap it all in one line
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>>59580968
I named my golisopod ANCHOR ARMS
they fit on like a glove
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>>59580968
I wanted to name him Kachidoki Arms
but best i can do is
KachidokiArm
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>>59581800
Pops in one hit like an Air Balloon
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>>59581557
WOMP WOMP, play a different game.
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>>59581594
Nigger it's signature move is it igniting a pebble to make a giant fireball, it kicking a rock at you isn't that crazy of an idea.
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Absol status?
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>>59581565
CinderBased
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I guess indeedee m is supposed to be the HO one and indeedee f is for TR Psyspam
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Mega Garchomp Z's idle pose unironically looks like he is T-posing
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Focus sash pawmot for reviving dead megas is so good. After he’s done he can just drop nukes too, SSS tier poke.
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If you set your controller down, you're a faggot.
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Can someone explain the indeedee archetype, i never know what its trying to do. I kinda just raped everyone with milotic incineroar and rillaboom. Regarding the fucking monkey, how is this pokemon not considered broken? This is the most unfair bullshit i have ever used so far in vgc, although i am new to it.
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Not changing my Golio's name from Snuggle Bug because she's a cutie
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>>59581905
Once everyone figures out what it does in a bit it won't be as bad, but yeah, it's hitler
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>>59581922
>>59581922
>>59581922
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>>59581102
>wolf
Anyone have the spreads?
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>>59581342
i thought about using it but its speed is too awkward



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