Balance editionPokémon Champions is a free to play online battle simulator available on Switch and mobile. It features ranked, casual and private battles for both singles and doubles, and will be used for VGC tournaments in 2026.>NewsReg MC is now live. The team in the OP won the first major online Grassroots tour for Reg MC,>Resources and useful linksCommunity Tournaments usage data: https://pikalytics.com/Ladder usage data: https://pokechamdb.com/enNew Player Guide(NEW PEOPLE READ THIS):https://rentry.org/pcg-guide (now taking suggestions and feedback)Anon made guide for brand new players to make a viable team with the starting pokemon: https://teamsheet.gg/t/sample-beginner-reg-b-vl3698Quick FAQ>Do I need my own Pokémon to play?No, the game features a recruitment system, but transferring from Home is recommended to save time and resources.>What makes the game so much more accessible than before?All aspects of a Pokémon are customizable with VP, a currency earned simply by playing the game. IVs are also removed.Ask in the thread if you want any specific Pokémon, and someone will respond.>Is there single player content?No.>Do I need a Nintendo Online subscription?No.>What's the starter pack?US$6.99 one time purchase for 50 training tickets (fully train for free), 30 Teammate Tickets (recruit Pokemon without using VP), 50 extra box space and the LGPE trainer music. Only available on Switch for now.>Is anything locked behind a paywall?So far everything gameplay relevant is also purchasable with VP. Only E-Floette require ZA transfer.>/pcg/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread): https://pastebin.com/d2FJZdPh>>59579962
>>595819221. Mence should be running draco for orher dragons and the mirror2. This team loses to the bridge, and golisopod rain
first for pawmot being god tier
>>59581922seems like menceslop is here to stay. and i saw retards online say it would be overrated
>>59581927mein gott
>>59581922I had 5/6 of the same mons in my builder pre format. floette over the basc. never brought floette to any of my matches, so i replaced it with sylveon.im draco timid on mence, high horsepower over u turn on rilla, i was also sitrus, and throat chop over protect on sneasler (move still being worked out, was rock slide at one point)literally had no idea this team had won. i will be taking credit for realzing harc was a good mence partner
>>59581927>golisopod rainwhich is ass into everything else
>you can't just get a double ko T1>I'm going to throw a bitch fit and put the controller down
>>59581926https://pokepast.es/b58a4fb249fb3cbf
>>59581931It is.
>>59581940Not as much as you’d think it’d be. Been having a lot of success with pic. Dragapult as a mixed attacker has been a lot better than I thought it would be.
>>59581922I have such a toxic relationship teambuilding with this mf. He's simultaneously has insane stats and can be borderline unkillable against certain match ups but also flounders horribly against a lot of others.It's not even that he's bad or fraudulent. That's the worst part. He definitely can be good but I have no idea what to do with him.
I think I'm dropping First Impression in my Golisopod, between Psyslop and they always protecting I never click it. Maybe Sucker Punch just for Basculegion, CC for Arch or even Sword Dance
>>59581986Honestly I'm starting to think it isn't worth it too. As cool as it is to potentially threaten OHKOs that fast it literally just gets faked out turn 1 and then switching Pod in later isn't worth it.
>>59581927ach mein gott mein neger
>>59581981The set is probably Iron Head, Leech Life, Swords Dance/bulk up, and protect.
>>59581959How
>>59581938>no CharizardThe fuck happened?
>>59582047its just one dude remaking his team again and again, it is not tournament results
>>59582047rent free lmao
>>59582047>>59582052As a follow up, this is from the wolfey patreon Tournament >https://play.limitlesstcg.com/tournament/6a9df29eab080c8c957fc4e2/standings
Here's a big tournament going on right now.https://play.limitlesstcg.com/tournament/6a93805b629039f77d8a53c1/pairingsHere's another decent sized one that finished earlier.https://play.limitlesstcg.com/tournament/6aa00639a4272c53be64abbd/standings
>>59582074does no one stream this stuff
it sure would be nice if there was a special attacking move that removed terrainonly physical attackers get them for now
>>59582102Not really.An individual player has to stream it. As Skraw will attest to, it's a bastard to cover tournaments.
anyone like to play monotype on the doubles ladder? ive been messing around with a normal type team the past week
>>59582107It should be a fire move called Scorched Earth
>>59582117Zard Y should get it :)
>>59582110blows my mind the organizer doesn't do it. you're putting up money, in this case, might as well throw up a stream
how do you hard counter golisopod?blaziken?
>>59582122You know the answer.He who does not care.
>>59582126>gets rock slided
>>59582122torkoal, he uses trick room better and moves before golisopod
>>59582102streaming is a bit of a bitch, especially if the streamer is a player himself.I was the secondary, then main streamer for our draft series and it was kind of a bitch to setup and host. furthermore, you kind of have to fenagle match timings so the streamer can catch it, as well as not having overlapping matches.Its all a bit of a hassle.Anyways, im down to streaming a pcg room if there is interest this weekend
>>59582136I googled around a bit off the linked tournament, looks like the guy is both not playing and regularly streams his tournaments and has his twitch linked on the limitless page. He's just not feeling it I guess.
>>59582128depends on what used it
why do people say "just run imprison lol" as if dedicating two entire move slots on one pokemon just to counter one strategy isn't extremely cumbersome
How simple is sneasler to get in Legends Arceus?
>>59582156Imprison turns an issue into a liability for your opponent. Like if you have helping hand, TR, some psychic attack/dazzling gleam, and follow me, that's like 90% of an indeedee's moveset. If they have one out, suddenly it cannot do anything useful and you still have access to your full moveset. You get to still helping hand or follow me while they need to switch out to something hopefully less suited to the match up and fumble to make their plan work. Like if you have Indeedee locking Hyper Voice, think of all the Sylveons, Gardevoirs, Salamences, etc. that are suddenly having issues to click their main stab attack. >>59582166can be caught at the third area, simple to evolve.
>>59582126OK but how do I use the much cooler zard X?
>>59581927Doesn't CC Sneasler OHKO the bridge?
>>59582203when in doubt, check the VGC PokePaste, link in the op rentry.Sadly i only found two char X teams in reg M-B>https://pokepast.es/73b10f321bb443d3>https://pokepast.es/9a74299ea2d0fd17
>>59582128>Avoided
Best items on rilla atm?
>>59582251I like the fire resist berry. Its saved my ass lots of times
>>59582251im on sitrus
>use wide guard>psyspam literally cant touch me
When will they let us date Tatora
How do you build a team using psychic terrrain? Rillaboom as a pokemon has better stats and moves so im struggling to see the appeal
>>59582302why are you comparing a terrain setter to a support pokemon?yes rilla is better than indeedee this is not news.a more apt comparison if you compare armarouge under psychic terrain vs idk mega chesnaught under grassy or something.
>>59582302>Both Indeedee and Rillboom get send out on turn 1>Grassy Surge activates first>Then Psychic surge activates and overides grass terrain>T-pose for easy win dominance
Is it just me or does Alakazam learn fucking nothing? Are people actually having success with this thing or are they using different Pokémon?
>>59582343People seem to have primarily moved to Gardevoir due to having both Hyper Voice and Psyspam. But I’ve been seeing a hell of a lot more M Indeedee with Choice Scarfs to start blasting out the game right away, usually accompanied by something like M Staraptor and M Yaichu
Is Bulk Up instead of SD on Megapod too memey?
>>59582343E-ForceShadowballEnegy BallNasty PlotGo out have fun. Sure, Dark types will be a problem, but you brought a mon that will deal with them right?
>>59582288I switched from alakazam to ychu because of this and have megardewife as the main abuser, convenient that most common wide guard users are weak to electric
>mega goliospod actually has a good ability>but thanks to google, it gained a new type of infamyMonkey paw aahh wish
>>59582380>KO RE WA HI DO Iyou and me both jap furry
>slash got buffedThat's nice.>Salamence, Pinsir and Feraligatr get itHmm...
I'm surprised they still pushed some nerfs and yet most unused megas are not getting anything? What, they can't at least give M-Kangaskhan or Lopunny Return?
>>59582383>use dragon cheer on salamence>destroy all non resists
>>59582385Yeah that's what I was thinking. It's basically double edge without any downsides besides needing someone to cheer. It ignores attack debuffs. You can gamble with draco meteor to ignore stat drops too.
>>59582384I think they should at least give Kangaskhan crush claw back. It's a less broken alternative to power up punch.
Despite its many shortcomings, I like how champions lets me enjoy pokemon and the mons in their latest look and status without having to buy the games. And PoGo helps fill the catching gap
>>59582385>252+ Atk Aerilate Salamence-Mega Slash vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Froslass-Mega in Snow on a critical hit: 252-297 (89.6 - 105.6%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKONah. This is with the buff too.
>resists mence both ways>resists mega pod both ways >resists rillaboomer>resists psyspam and has wide guardit's time
>>59582399I literally run zard y and spa mence, sometimes together so im sorry aegibro
>>59582399>Fire Blast
>>59582402>>59582405that's what the other 5 team slots are for my friend
So rilla in a sun team.. i put glide, mamoru, knock off, and u turn. Which one should i ditch for solar blade? I need to replace solar beam on zard
>>59582416What is this move set...
>>59582416fake out, glide/wood hammer/solar blade, u-turn, knock/wood hammer/solar blade, high horsepower @ assault vest
>>59582424>he doesnt run mamoru
>>59581986First Impression / U-Turn set sounds a lot more useful in single and OU
Abzol kinda sucks to be quite desu with you
>>59582448Dark ghost is better as a defensive dual typing
>psyseed ArchIs it too bootleg AV?
Jesus Sirfetch’d is so ass how sad
>>59582483Takuma yamazaki will make him a world champion just like Ash. Watch
>Absol Z mirror>The opposing Absol used Close Combat!
Archaludon genocide plz.
What Pokemon do you see on an opposing team that makes you go like this?
>>59582530Salamence
we need urshifu for some REAL vgc
Press F forSneasler fake outand Accelerock
>>59582530>archaludon>vivillon>bellibolt
>>59582553>AccelerockWhat retarded happened this time?
they thought bringing back rilla mence was a-ok but somehow mega tatsugiri is a problem
>>59582569Dozo Tatsugiri destroys the concept of “haha I click spread move” so it shits on new people too hard that’s why they don’t want to add it.
>>59582574i'm sure they can figure that out faster than they'll figure out revolving door infinity fake out intimidate
>>59582569a lot of people are unfamiliar with grass knot
new code that does nothing 10M1NTRNR100 tickets
>They fix the Mega Shit Cumshot translationnooooooooo
KNEEL
>>59582587GOAT SHIT
>>59582587>sylveon + mencehyper voiceslop...
Please... Power Herb... I wanna use Meteor Miss
>>59582587ZARD AND MENCE LINKED UP NEED IT OR KEEP IT
>>59582587Lucario Brahs...>>59582592I want to use arch off rain personally.
>>59582592>B-B-B BUT AURORUS WENT LE EXTINCT FOR REASONERINO!!!! WAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!Silence, buck.
The Bastiodon tech they don't want you to know about
>>59582587looks like a pretty healthy and diverse meta to me
>>59582587Mence needs fire coverage, so instead of running head wave, you add zard or harc
People don’t want you to know this but Toxtricity with punk rock gives zero shits about Salamence
>>59582598It's something that people get disappeared by the CIA and Mossad for.
I need to poop yet I'm constipated as fuck.Maybe Mega Charizard Y can help with that as she uses Flamethrower on my bowls.
>>59582607surely a rectal water spout from 'stoise would be more effective?
>>59582603you know what im gonna run this dude with >>59582598 and spam sludge wave boomburst on this slow ahh meta
oh no you killed my mega? are you sure about that?
Does he have a place in Salamence's meta?
Remove Corviknight from BSSThank you
Not sold on Aqua Jet on Golispod. Even in Rain it feels like you're better off just taking your chances with something like CC or Liquidation for coverage.
>>59582660The fact that it unironically matches up decently into a lot of top meta mons off of typing alone while also having a funny gimmick button in Revival Blessing means I actually expect this guy to be a massive sleeper hit. Maybe a Speed+Bulk focused build with Iron Fist to shore up Double Shock/Thunder Punch and Drain Punch damage.
>>59582663IDK, but Dragonite will always be the one who BTFO'd Fraudizard.
>>59582660why can this rat revive anyway
>>59582696defibrillator hands
>>59582698makes sense
>>59582660The fact that it also has 105 Speed is extra nutty
Randlipper, fuck you I hope you get Faked Out by a fucking car. People running Rocky Helmet on Incineroar can choke on shit.Everyone running Rillaboom Incinear has gay sex with their cousins
>>59582663Yes what's Mence going to do?Draco into Multiscale?Dragon Pulse alone is probably a 1hko.
>>59582122Sunny day + weather ball.Also I've seen a guy today using scarfed hisuian Typhlosion using eruption. It was even fast enough to outspeed mega Froslass.
robbed by rock flinch again award
>>59582784I felt sorry for some bloke yesterday. Two turns of Trick Room left, one of the mons they had left was a Barbaracle. Flinched both times to Rhyperior's Rock Slide.
>>59582592The power herb should also skip the recharge turn of hyper beam moves
Oh joy, the faggot grass monkey gets Fake Out. What a fun and inspiring choice.
why the fuck are people running mystical fire on random pokemon now
Mega Garchomp Z is pretty much only a dragon killer and nothing else. I got surprised by one that killed my Salamence. It did shit damage everywhere else but I still lost because I didn't have anything to take it or Rillaboom.
>>59582815Golisopod and Rillaboom probably
>>59582815you asking this in the game of shit cumshot and harambe
This is my first team in the new reg. I wanted to try rising voltage spam with Raichu X but there was no good mon. Toxitricity can do it now. Also with rillaboom and indeedee in the game megaing into X overwrites their terrain. Big buffs to raichu x.
>>59582815>niggaboom>fagambit>shit cumshot>mence needs fire coverage to take on shit like froslassfire coverage was some of the best in M-B but now it's unironically necessary. You should also expect to see a lot of ice coverage to take on big mence, which indirectly nerfs mons like staraptor
Another Wave Crash Basculegion faggot. They should be killed in real life, so fucking angry at this horseshit game, fucking loser
>>59582844Why didn't they add him
yea, mega mence is a mega menace
>>59582852Sorry, needed room for Farfetch'd and Squawkabilly
>>59582856DUX cucks
>>59582852The Pokémon selection makes no fucking sense, the three elemental monkeys before choices like Gastrodon but they have that fucking fish and Sneasler
>>59582852Just use heliolisk bro.
>>59582859It makes sense if you think of the mechanics. Redirection + move absorption, too complicated for basic players. Another fake out user that does damage? pretty straight forward, throw the sneas in.
>>59582844>Still struggling against basc after this long Im sorry bro but that's on you at this point.
>>59582587>normal floettei know its an error/meme but how does this affect the m-c regulation meta?
I wonder if I need to swap to the SD set for golispod, the ambush set of first impression, sucker, u-turn, iron head is so fun but indeedee spam is making that a little difficult.
>open rillaboom froslass>opp instantly scoopslol lmao
>>59581928missed it by 8 seconds lol
Rillaboom gets one shot by basically everything in the meta. Its not even good in this meta when all the good pokemon are flying fire and poison.
>>59582865symbiosis psychic seed into rilla
>>59582862Lightning Rod is already in Champions. Has been since the beginning. They're just sucking fish cock
>>59582670To my understanding, Aqua Jet only seems to be valuable in matchups against Mega Camerupt in Trick Room since it outspeeds you. But it can only OHKO it under Rain with Aqua Jet, and it can MAYBE 2HKO Torkoal in rain depending on its spread, more likely 3HKO. The better option to me is to get Rain set before TR comes up and murder with Liquidation before they can get rolling
>>59582663even if not, like >>59582679 said it will always be a world champion who destroyed zard
how do you deal with unburden terrain seed sneasler
>>59582844Adapt(ability) and overcome.
>>59582120most of the people who host these are normal people who dont want to be bothered with it. these tours are mostly for practice
>>59582855grassy seed on rillaboom is absolutely worth it over miracle seed, terrain extender, or rocky helmet. sitrus incin is fine but sometimes I want something else. given the state of the meta I’m really on the fence about possibly switching the kingambit to a supreme overlord dark glasses set, it seems like it would be a win button on exactly half of all games atp. besides that this team beats so much of the current meta it’s unreal.
>>59582882Hit it with a psychic attack for x4 damage.
>>59582882The giraffe unironically. you tank a hit and can either just raw twin beam or trick room then twin
>>59582876pika privilege, simple as
>>59582882bring a ghost or just spam intimidate fake out
Struggling to get my last ribbon (super battle tree) for Golisopod in Sun so I can transfer him out to play in the regulation in time. Normally I'd be fine taking my time, but I feel that Heatrans going to make Pod completely irrelevant when it drops. Though it gets Drill Run so maybe it'll be fine on rain teams?
>>59582320skilled players have it in the back, even more skilled players know when to switch it in.
>>59582897you got like 3 months bro
>>59582897Terracott will beam Blue in doubles like 90% of the time. Celesteela is based as well
>>59582897this makes me wonder what the hell they'll put in the game for reg M-D, we know Meat is coming but that will probably mean other minor legendaries are also coming, I sure hope the genies aren't in that group
>>59582916m diancie
>>59582905Yeah I just don't wanna wait to the last minute and then I get like a week of playtime with it>>59582910I probably should be doing doubles but I'm doing singles. I got a team for Red set (bulky Koko for most threats, speedy Nihilego for M-Venu and Zard, third is ribbon slot) its just a matter of getting to 50. I got close but I got cheesed by Magnezone paralyzing me and then my Sacred Sword missing twice somehow.>>59582916I'm crossing fingers for maybe some of the mythical megas if they finally break that rule and let them into normal regs, but we'll see. Hoping Mega Tatsugiri too. I don't have many hopes beyond that after seeing we got fucking Squawkabilly as one of our M-C mons.
it seems psyspammers do not think to tech around wide guard and just hope armor cannon will win the game
>>59582916The King of the Harvest
>>59582916I want to see them just release the trios (besides the genies) for thr forst batch of legendaries. Birbs dogs musketeers and whatever them little itty bitty nigroes are.
>>59582897unless meatran gets earth eater golisopod always ohkos it with drill run, it might actually be a check for it desu
>>59582924there was a regulation where they allowed mythicals during SV, only on ladder and not tournament play, maybe they'll do it again
>>59582916It’s almost guaranteed to be>Heatran, Legendary birds (and Galarian forms), Legendary hamsters, Lati twins, Regis (but not Gigas they don’t want to put Weezing in), Lake trioThen in a second set they’ll start adding Cress and the genies
>>59582924Most ribbon master videos I've seen have been doubles, but I'm sure there's at least a team on smogon or I know the guy who has the WR on battle tree singles streamed his entire run but I think they refuse to accept it because it was emulator
>>59582916I want the genies.I want the jet duo.I want the treasures.I want the swords.I want the paradox trios.I want the beasts.I want the birds, both versions.I want the lake trio. (indifferent really)I want the tapus.I want the regis.I want the loyal three.I want Ogrepon, Heatran, Cresselia, any Urshifu.
>>59582940I want you in jail.
flutter mane save us all
>>59582941good for you
>>59582942Just when you thought rockslide couldn't get worse
>>59582932I remember that, I'm kind of hoping they'll just let the ZA Mega Mythicals be usable since they're permanently catchable now. I don't want to wait 2-3+ years to find out their abilities proper>>59582934>guaranteedYou're getting Spidops and you're gonna like it.
>>59582957Basically you just outspeed and KO the rockslider with your 30% SpAtk boost + Life orb or Specs.I didn't make the rules.
>>59582964Incin... My mans!
Why not try using the new pokemon while the meta is weaker instead of wishing for more OP meta pokemon.
>>59582971They're crap.It's not a mystery what's good and you aren't going to discover some ANTIMETA sauce that someone better didn't try and fail with.Skawkabilly ain't it.
The real secret to a good meta is to have a lot of strong mons that allows for several different compositions.We have a meta with a bunch of dogshit mons and then Basc and Gambit as support for your OP mega of choice (Mence, Zard, or Floette).If we had stronger teammates you might actually see more variety, but instead we have a couple clear #1s in a few roles that anything else is just not worth using.
>>59582981Sir fetch'd can kill both basc and kingambit but everyone treats it as a joke.
Here's my dragon girl!
>>59582990Post its results. Which MC tournaments is it dominating?Don't insult people's intelligence, is the role Sirfetchd plays on your team "it KOs Basc and Gambit!" or does it have a real purpose.
>>59582964god I wish I were that incin
>>59582994Sir fetchd has scrappy, is fighting type, has high defense, and learns solar blade and leaf blade. Using it as a basc and kingambit counter is a perfectly good reason to build one. Its been in the game for two days.
>>59582998I can see the vids already.META-WARPING SIRFETCHD TEAM
all the cultured and discerning men know you gotta have urshifu landorus or it's a shit meta
>>59582916Mega Tatsugiri and Dondozo
For reference, out of 243 players, Sirfetch'd took 160th and 194th. Difficult to say how much input it actually had in that result.
>>59582992She's very cute. I will refrain from saying something perverted.
Some snapshots of prior metas while they were still developing.
i miss tera
>>59583015
is it true that if you started playing on mobile you can't connect that account to your switch without resetting everything?
>>59583020No, the only thing is you can only have your mobile account on one device at a time, if you login in your phone for example you're gonna be logged off from an emulator you were playing on your pc or from a tablet. Can't comment on if you were playing on a switch 1 and wanted to swap to switch 2 doe.
>>59582964twink bunnies everywhere and Incin
HOLY SHIT I HATE ARCHALUDON
>>59583015One more snapshot going back to 2018.
use me
>>59582994Watch pokeaim's latest stream.
>>59582965>he thinks the flutter won't be helping the rocksliderSomeone doesn't know
>>59583039I'm not going to watch a sloptuber.It's not going to be meaningful.
>>59583037if you insist*unzips*
>Trace sets up Grassy Terrain I had just shut off
A lot of people seem to not know that absol z is ghost
Is Mega Baxcalibur good ?
>>59583090Make a team and try it out.
>>59583090I've been using base Ex mostly. Pretty solid, but suffers a lot of the same issues Feraligatr does where a good chunk of your biggest threats are faster than you so finding the chance to set up a DD is difficult.
>>59583090It's kind of the same issue as Garchomp where you'd rather just use its base form with an item over the mega, but if you like it it's not bad
>>59583037I mean you are the absolute fastest Trick Room Pokemon, and you got Rising Voltage back. You are certainly usable.
>>59583090Nope
I hit master ball without losing and lemme tell ya every game was unironically good
Predictions on remaining mega abilities?>zygarde: upgraded power construct to heal it up again, assuming it can only mega in complete form>heatran: flash fire>darkrai: bad dreams or dark void>magearna: soul heart>zeraora: transistor>tatsugiri: drizzle or upgraded commander where it can mega inside dondozo, and drizzles when it leaves dondozo
>>59583124On the flip side, match making fucking sucks and I hate all of my opponents today. In ultra ball cancer ward
>>59583124yeah all my games have been really good too, it's like newfags learned how to position and read plays so games felt much more dynamic
If you have rillaboom on your team and you ever lose to an indeedee or raichu team it’s straight up a skill issue
i got to great ball and i unironically got ranked anxiety im such a fucking loser
does revival wish on pawmot allow you to increase the effect of supreme overlord even higher or does the same pokemon only count as fainting once?
>>59583153Save the anxiety for MB at least, anon. There's nothing to stress yourself out about in GB.
kek everyone's running feint on random mons after Takuma's win
>>59582343Alakazam has never been strong in vgc, hes just too frail. I think if his mega evo wasnt trace hed have a better gameplan. Seriously trace has to be the most poorly designed shit ever, it needs to be updated
>>59583037i am going to use you with mega ampharos under TR when i finish getting master rank singles okay little buddy
>>59582885>>59582864Wave Crash should not OHKO fucking anything in the sun. It’s a bullshit faggot move on a Pokémon with no other equivalents in the game.“Oh just use electric” well the faggots at ILCA decided we shouldn’t have any good electric Pokémon in the game
>>59583155I'm pretty sure SO and Last Respects take into account>currently KO'd teammates instead of>total KO'smaybe supreme overlord works differently, but my Basc only had +50 BP on LR after a post revive KO
>>59583162>the faggots at ILCA decided we shouldn’t have any good electric Pokémon in the gamecum again?
>>59583162>Wave Crash should not OHKO fucking anything in the sun. It’s a bullshit faggot move on a Pokémon with no other equivalents in the game.Literally just water type Flare Blitz/Wood Hammer/Volt Tackle/Brave Bird/Double Edge
Dude basculegion is such a horrifying pokemon, if i lead bad against it it feels like instant ggs
>>59583162>>59583170bwo? your kingambit?
>>59583164>Last Respects inflicts damage. Its base power, which starts at 50, is increased by an additional 50 each time a Pokémon on the user's side faints during a battle. Revived Pokémon who then faint again also count, with the base power capping at 5,050 after Pokémon faint 100 times in the same battle.Not sure if this was changed in Champions or not, but if it doesn't count KOs from Revival Blessing mons then they changed it
>>59583170is it me or is basculegion a bit of a boring pokemon?like u see it at the end of the game "oh wow basc has 3 kills" but u can never remember them.can u remember a single basc kill ?but try gambit...u can see the sucker i remember a gambit punch.
>>59583169None of those other moves have Pokémon with abilities that increase the damage by 2x.The suicide fish should not get to kill a whole team with its suicide move.
>>59583020wrong i did exactly that to buy the extra boxesim stil only playing on mobile
>>59583170>Last Respects now faints on hit similar to Final GambitThere, fixed the gay fish
I still fucking sometimes forget to mega
shouldn't Rotom-H be really good now?>electric keeps all those flying types in check>fire rapes all the steel and ice running around>will o wips fucks up physical attackers
>>59583175Funny enough the team i am using has no king gambit so maybe thats why the fish is fucking me
>>59583218nigga rillaboom is RIGHT THERE
milotic players need to kill themselves
>>59583218>menceslop and still getting fishedbro
>>59583226uh oh mencefag melty
>>59583204Based jew
every single person on the ladder underestimates how hard pawmot can hit. he has ohko threat on so many meta picks right now.
>>59583232that's my lil biribiri
>>59583226rillaboom deals with it, but then they hit raw hypnosis like yea fuck offpersonally. i just double it every time its on the field
I kind of feel for the newer mega evolutions that were released with not very strong abilities given what we got with Golisopod.
>>59583226TRVTH NVKE
what jams are you guys crushing pokeball to? sombr
>>59583228>>59583226>>59583251Running Energy Ball Opportunist Espathra alongside Intimidate leads to lure in uppity foidsnakes.
pawmot seems like it'll be an annoying threat, tempted to have it on my team with m-pod but wondering if its worth to have drill run on to deal with it before it sets up revives
why do people use H-Arcanine instead of Lycanroc?
OK, Garchomp-Z is pretty funny. No one ever expects it to be the Mega in a team builded around Golisopod, and it gets surprise kills against faster mons like Salamence, Sneedsel, Delphox, etc. Resisting Grassy Glide from the Rillaboom is good too
>>59582887I just faced a pawmot for the first time and it was absolute AIDS. I already knew revival blessing was a good move, but it had leppa(?) berry. Having access to TWO senzu beans is already bad enough, but the revived Pokémon retaining their mega is fucking insane.
>>59583317I faced a fucking Perish Trap team with Revival Blessing, and yeah I forfeited
>>59583306Intimidate/rock head, cooler, can't be burned. They're both gonna crumble to one SE
>>59582887How am I supposed to deal with farigiraf when running that team
will mega delphox ever be played again? if it didn't have levitate it would fuck really hard but now it gets outclassed by the psyspammers and doesn't benefit from any terrain, it also has a terrible matchup against mence
>>59583345Believe in the phox, I'll force it even if I have to spam A-Ninetails and a redirector
>>59583342mega salemence guaranteed ohko double edge into farig. if it does get its trick room up there's plenty of prio on the team. if its trick room and weird ground just position rillaboom correctly.
>>59583351>252+ Atk Aerilate Salamence-Mega Double-Edge vs. 80 HP / 80 Def Farigiraf: 337-397 (84 - 99%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recoveryyou sure?
>>59583359I did the calc with this farig in mind https://game8.co/games/Pokemon-Champions/archives/594166every time ive done it (like 3 times now) it has killed, at least.
>>59583306H-Arcanine is easier to slap onto most teams + it gives much needed fire coverage
hyper voice
Okay so how cancerous are MegaBax and MegaChompZ?
>>59583408they’re slightly below mid meme picks. they’re both better just running something like life orb or maybe rocky helmet.
>>59583408>chompkills dragons and that's it>baxglaive rush + ice shard, it's run with coaching and scale shot sometimes but the opportunity cost of the mega stone over base bax is very debatable
>>59583328>perish trap revival blessingmy eyes have been opened
Help a nigga out pls
>>59583449I got one in a love ball earlier, let me send you the one I was using.
>>59583420okay now im thinking over a preliminary team because this seems really cancerous and really funny>m-gengar: main staple>politoed: secondary singer/weather support>incin: fake out/parting shot support>pawmot: revival blessing alongside fake-out>rillaboom: reserve option for terrain/psyspam teams, likely can take incin or politoeds place>m-golisopod: secondary mega option on reserve, seems to pair well with politoed and rilla. here for teams that perish sucks against as a damage dealerlikely could be adjusted with better mons but this is just a quick team thought i had at work
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What kind of Pokemon might benefit from Gogoat? Dragonite to give it back multiscale?
I'll forever be a Palafin truster, he can just slot in Ice Punch to deal with the monkeyfag and mence now. It's not because I have a shiny one or anything
>>59583464mayeb belly drum users
>>59583464fat boys like toxapex
>>59583351it has ohko'd zero of the farigiraf i have played against today
>>59583499double into it then nigga idk, the team does great into tr teams though i went on a 12 win streak with it and like a third of those teams or more were hard tr
>>59583502>incineroar used fake out
>>59583420No, keep them closed
>imprison psyspam TR>forfeitthese guys really oughta have a backup plan
>>59583479ZardXDEITIES, our time has come.
>>59583524Imprison is a total bitch move people who use it should have their balls chopped off if they haven’t fallen off on their own already
>>59583452Thanks bro Anyone got a spare toilet perchance
>finally tried the wifevoir psyspam teamholy fuck has she always hit this hard?
>>59583536Zard X is good and I'll never understand why he gets no use, losing 4x pebbles weak and water weak is nice and it hits hard.
>>59583581because zard y clicks 1 move and everything in front of it dies, x needs to set up and then it's just single target
>>59583464>>59583479Rillaboon. Gogoat has grass pelt
Whats going on with all the basculegion seethe? Its been in the game since day one.
>>59583592there’s 1 or 2 people in this thread who just seethe after every game that they remain trapped in great ball
>>59583592some niggas keep getting swept by last respects
>>59582994By all means keep underestimating Sirfetch'd.
How important is it to have fake out on your team?
yellow or blue toxtricity
>>59583621it's another form of speed control that's also disruption, it depends on the archetype you're running but usually anything wants it except for hard trick room and even then they use it
>>59583546get other moves retard
Is mega bunny usable or just for waifu purposes? Fast scrappy fighting type with stab fake out in a meta full of ghosts and darks seems pretty good
>>59583665I ran her in a team with M-Phox last regulation and made it to MB1. I think she's a sleeper pick and have been trying to build a new team for her since the fox kinda sucks now, I'm still tinkering with it but she's definitely good since she checks basically every single mega but zard, pod and the psychics
>>59583665was pretty good in MB but I imagine it'll be a lot harder with double intimidate psyspam fuckery
Oppa gangnam style
>>59583670double intimidate doesn't matter because Scrappy negates it, it's psyspam that's hard to cover her for
>>59583674I keep forgetting scrappy is included in that
(((They))) are running Copycat Liepard to undo trick room
Can't fucking STAND Corviknight
>>59583692Skill issue retard
Life orb Garchomp outspeeds Salamence. But Mega Salamence outspeeds and draco meteors life orb Garchomp. But Mega Garchomp Z outspeeds and draco meteors Mega Salamence. But scarf Garchomp outspeeds and dragon claws Mega Garchomp Z.
>>59583696so scarf garchomp wins
>>59583692>Playing Singles>Garchomp vs Corviknight matchup>Smug Corv uses Iron Defense>Garchomp uses Flamethrower>They instantly resignEvery time
big mence don't wanna tell you about wigglytuff because it gets 2-shotted by anyone at max investment buffs pls gamefreak
>>59583547I am begging please
>>59583714just give it fluffy desu
>>59583726Competitive is fine
>>59583726need boomburst so I can spam it at +6and bump attack down for defenses
male or female indeedee for my megardevoir enabler?
Expert Belt Cinderace
>>59583744If you want it to enable something its pretty much ALWAYS female, if you want instant expanding force potential without having to set trick room with another partner alongside it ( sneasler openings etc ) male
>>59583744Female for redirection and supportMale diddy pair up better with Sneasler as a high pressure lead
>>59583744F
I cannot find a team that I like in this meta
>>59583744mandeedee is for the funny imprisons or turn 1 offense
>>59583547don't see the offer, you got one?
i'll be scared of something and turns out it's eject button tyranitar
i swear on my life kingambit somehow has an increased evasion rate against heat waveit literally misses in critical moments against it like 50% of the time
>>59583816kingambit just does shit like that. Takuma won worlds only because his gambit survived a heat wave at exactly 1%
>>59583816Yeah and Farig has a hidden focus band
I said fuck it and put taunt on my frosslass, got like 6 wins because of trick room drones.
>>59583834kek basedI feel like I never use Shadow Ball on mine anyway, might as well try it
basculegion gets a lot of flak for being a braindead flowchart pokemon but I think sylveon is just as guiltyis the opponent on low HP? click quick attackis the opponent a steel or poison type? click detectotherwise click hyper voice
deciding what to lead is probably the worst part of low ELOpeople will have just a random assortment of slapped together bullshit that makes it impossible to tell what their team even does
>>59583861you can guess what sylveon will do easily and it's very slow, FISHED enters the field and it's a sudden 50/50 and you better hope you already had something that could kill it or someone can die
>>59583873you only need to counterlead if you know your opponent will try to read your leads, otherwise you just go with a consistent lead every timeyou do have a consistent lead, right?
>>59583885>FISHED enters the field and it's a sudden 50/50 and you better hope you already had something that could kill it or someone can dieThe humble sucker punch:
>>59583888*aqua jet doubles your partner*
>Stuff Cheeks Liquid Ooze Swalot walls Leech Life Golisopod thanks for the build anon, my son is home
tfw great at blowing up people's leads but I always fumble it against the things that come in after
>>59583934based spread the swalot love
>>59583861sylveon and basculegion have never been easier to counter, you have to be kinda retarded to lose to them or run something explicitly weak to them. kingambit on the other hand is an absolute menace right now.
>>59583696you just bring your other mega in mence vs chomp situations. you’re running mega froslass or floette right anon?
i really dislike how much the psychic terrain archetype (on top of the already everywhere farig) shuts down prankster and priority moves as a method of mixed speed control for balanced gamesyou pretty much have to either run tailwind with a bunch of fast guys or trick room with a bunch of slow guys
>>59584007*balance teams, I meant
>>59584007its almost like terrains and weathers overcentralize the game
>>59583834Its crazy how many people are running trick room today. It seems like 80+ of matches have tried it. I'm considering removing prankster from my Sableye just so he can encore trap Farig and Deedee.
>>59584007it also dies pretty easily to just click spread lmao unless there's an armarouge
>>59584007turning that shit off is the actual biggest reason rillaboom is good they really should have added more options for non-psychic terrain setters
>>59584025its fucked up how they didnt even bother making a misty terrain setter, they just said fuck weezing in particular
>>59583861>is the opponent a steel or poison type? click detectWhat's the next step of your master plan?
>>59584007rillaboom makes those games practically auto wins, the average psy spammer is mentally retarded and literally don’t have the mental capacity to respond to their easily read plans being foiled
Reminder Ice Spinner breaks terrains.
>>59584029t. actual retard who doesn’t know what to do next
>>59584036Die to dire claw, got it
>>59584035They should make a move that breaks weather.
my counter to psyspam is leading toxtricity indeedee to trick them into staying then imprison into forfeit get baited nerds
>>59584022>encore>fariganon
>>59584054>removing pranksterAnon?
every one in a while I'm tempted to remove encore because most people see it coming and switch out anyway but every once in a while there's some retard or madlad who stays in after protecting/boosting in front of me and i really wish I had it
>>59584056>removing the only reason sableye is good at allIt's better in that one matchup and worse against literally everything else
>>59584057One of its best uses is last 2 mons and one of them protects
Levitate users and flying types kinda get fucked in a terrain meta, huh?
>>59584066Gravity ability in gen 10, trust
>>59584059what good is CTS if you don't engage in vietcong warfare
Corviknight stonks rising with sneasler and rillaboom everywhere, mirror armoring intimidate from mence and incin is nice too
>>59584070NEW MON: YomamaSignature ability: So Fat “Yomama so fat, she creates a gravitational field that pulls all Pokemon to the ground”
>>59584059Yeah, but its funny
>>59584066this is kind of a good thing honestly, a lot of dominant mons are flying/levitators
>>59584007prankster pokemon deserve to get nigged on. fuck prankster
>>59584073rocky helm corv is so good for torturing menceslop teams
>>59584022trick room is the easiest archetype to play in the game, you literally just click one move for free and then bring in Mega Nuke Launcher™ to sweep without worrying about positioning, control, matchups or anything that actually requires piloting skill, no wonder it's so popular
>>59584114To be fair higher speed stat or tailwind isn't exactly more skilled. Especially with both Attack stat and BP creep rendering bulk somewhat irrelevant unless you spam Intimidate cycles.
we haven't even gotten to REAL trick room
how do sand teams do against indeedee golisopod? I see that team every other game
Don't know if I slept on him last season but samurott hisuis been really good so far for me this season
>constantly have to worry about how I'm going to kill megamence it's like I'm playing gen 6 on showdown 50 years ago
staraptor squawk double intim final gambit lead
>>59583748actually not bad in this Meta
Mega Squawkachadly
Just getting back into the game again with the new regulation. Farig is a nigger and I hate it.
>>59584168Easy, the answer to Mega Mence is Mega Mence. Always has been.
>>59584178sis your Golisopod?
>>59584178bro your abZol?
I wish Hydreigon was viable
>>59584186its really strong, but gets easily rekt in doubles.Is still king in singles through, i love him there
>>59584059Oh shit, I'm a genius.You don't have to switch Sableye's ability in the training dojo. You just give him Sableite. That way you can use prankster Sableye + your normal mega in all other matchups. But in this specific one, you can have him mega evolve to switch Prankster for Magic Bounce.
>>59584197you better have a REALLY good answer for mawile if you're relying on sableye as your mega against hard TR
>>59584202Did mawile protect turn 1? Congrats, you can now encore him.If he's not on the field yet, just encore the giraffe to reverse trick room.
>>59583748Life Orb Cinderace is nice too, being able to possibly one shot Female Indeedee's is really nice
>psyterrain TR player makes the misclick of Sucker Punch twice with megawile
>>59584155I’m honestly shocked more people haven’t gotten onto H Samurott. It definitely has its flaws but it also hits like a truck. Black Glasses boosted Sucker Punch from it really hurts things like Basc, and even neutral hits with Sharpness-boosted moves still chunk opponent’s health. >Started the game with it on a team with M Froslass and a few other mons >Eventually settled with it on a Megagross and Mega Zard Y team for the past few months >Back to Froslass with the new reg
>>59584213it's popular in BSS it just kinda randomly dies in dubs if you don't get the hard reads
God I fucking suck at doubles. It’s so depressing to understand every single thing fundamentally after playing this game for 20+ years but not being able to see the winning lines in the 4v4 format
>same turn>opponent switches out Sneasler first for slower Indeedee>psychic surge activates>I switch out my slightly slower Salazzle for faster Rillaboom>grassy surge activates and cucks psychic terrainIs that always how it worked? It's funny how it turned out but still. Does that happen with weather too? I always just assumed it was dependent on when the attacking started instead of who switches out first.
>cofagrigus doesn't get wide guard to completely wall megamenceFuck, at least it's got will o miss
>>59584208the amount of times my opponent has tried to Fake Out after setting their own Psychic terrain has been funny
>>59584217playing in the first season of a new game is good for practicetoo bad wiwa is a year away lul
Hisuian Arcanine is seriously so good right now.
>>59584219Terrain Surges and weather abilities activate on switch-in regardless of what's currently on the field, it will always overwrite it. If 2 terrain/weather setters switch in at the same time, the faster pokemon sets it first, then the slower pokemon overrides it. This is why a hard TR lead with Indeedee is so hard to deal with, if you counterlead with Rillaboom, psychic surge goes last so it ends up on the field turn 0, if you switch rillaboom in, you only have one pokemon that can move turn 0 and then they just set up trick room by reading the obvious fake out coming their way
>>59584227I'm a believer. But still>Head Smash missed!
icicle crash doesnt have 90 accuracy
Is it retarded to double protect turn one against fake out when my lead has focus sash
>>59584219>>59584230oh I forgot to mention, switches are also based on the speed of the pokemon you're switching out, it's why Grassy Terrain ended up on the field in this case>Sneasler switches out first (120 speed with unburden)>indeedee comes in and sets psychic terrain>your pokemon that's slower than sneasler switches out after psychic terrain has been set>rilla overwrites psychic terrain and sets up grassy terrainchess with 500 moves and such
>>59584114Well until your one trick room setter gets killed and you're out of it for the rest of the game. Or you do get it off and get protect stalled out of turns. Sometimes getting in your nuke safely takes some thought too if you don't lead with it and braindead click protect.
>>59584239nah that's a common move against fakers
>>59584232I'm used to Rotom W losing me games, it's fine.
>>59584227I’m pretty sure I have a 100% win rate against it this regulation
>>59584227Are you supposed to run intimidate or rock head on it?
>>59584251Rock Head with Flare Blitz and Head Smash.>>59584249Funny, I also have a 100% winrate with it. 5 out of 5 matches.
>already made it to master with froslass pawmotthis shit is so fucking good I didn't even get to test other teams I had in mind
>>59584256You got the team?
>>59584240I think I've never run into this interaction before because of mega weather setting fuckery overwriting a weather mid turn anyways. Switching takes priority over mega so if you switch in Pelipper the same turn as Charizard mega evolving Charizard wins that exchange. Assuming no mega fuckery so is it only on turn 0, when both terrain/weather setters are sent out at all once where it's determined by speed order? And then after that it's determined by switch in order?
>>59584256I did the same >>59584264nta but here is mine >>59582887
>>59584271What about the EVs, bro
>>59584239Its the default response. But it will also give them a free turn to set up or switch in. You can also use that opportunity if to switch out into anything that doesn't have a sash.
>>59584230I was wondering how Indeedee was viable as a trick room setter because it's frail compared to Farigiraf and gets trashed by any basic physical dark or bug move.
>>59584273
>>59584281I feel like those spreads can be improved (aka stolen from twitter lists).
>>59584264>>59581335pawmot's item is sash instead of sitrus
>>59584282probably, but it’s worked really well for me so far
>>59584284Oh, for sure. I'm just being as asshole. I use the most basic Incineroar spread, my Frosslass is bulky as hell, and my KG is setup with SD.
>>59584279nta but i have hatterene set with indeedee so it can either go:>protect hatterene>indeedee sets trick roomor>follow me indeedee>hatterene sets trick room
>>59584265of both are sent at the same time, setting order is by speed, for example if you send out pelipper and the opponent sends tyranitar in the same turn, pelipper will proc drizzle and set the rain, then ttar will proc sand stream and set the sand if on the same turn both players switch out a pokemon for another that sets a terrain/weather, then the speed of the pokemon on the field will decide which pokemon enters it last and therefore wins the terrain/weather war, like what happened in that match basically the slower pokemon always wins in regards to setting terrain, both in a turn 0 simultaneous entrance to the field, in a post turn 0 simultaneous switch-out from both players and in case both players mega evolve on the same turn, so Char Y will always overwrite Froslass' snow and mega TTar will overwrite both
Aaron "CybertronVGC" Zheng uploaded a Mega Shit Cumshot video so if the Wolfey team didn't make you see it everywhere on ladder, now you will, be prepared
Amarouge don't care about the shiny new pod in terrain, even in rain it ohkos with ease
>>59584312well its been fun for the day, time to move out to counter team this. Maybe ill play armarouge instead now
>>59584322that's nice politoed use muddy water
holy fucking shit Pawmot learns Coaching too this thing is amazing
Why do people just copy instead of figuring things out as you go?
Does this general mostly play doubles? 3v3 singles are kind of lame so I wouldn't blame you.
>>59584340ive written about this in the new player guide.some people like piloting more than team building. You might place a premium on self expression and creativity, but some people prioritize winning and skill expression more.Its the timmy vs spike issue, look it up.>>59584344yes.i reach masters on it too, just to say i have, but otherwise BSS is gay and retarded. I would play 6v6, stall be damned. but alas it is what it is
>>59584347>timmy vs spikejohnny here, do I have any options besides baton pass?
>>59584353idk figure it out.Maybe something like beat up + justified
>>59584353pincurchin
>>59584353there's swalotfags itt if those aren't a Johnny idk what is
Idk if it’s just because the additions were good or if the overall quality of play has improved as people play champions more but I’m having a ton of fun this reg.
>>59584360for sure partly its new toy syndrome since a lot of the additions isnt just obvious dogshit like mega scolipede
>>59584360the changes were very small but they gave a fuck ton of viability to pokemon that were already in the game but were basically unplayable in M-A/B, and even the less viable new mons like Cinderace and Pawmot have a bigger impact on the meta now
>>59584360Yeah, it was just enough new shit to shake things up. Now we're in the fun phase. After maybe 2 weeks, the meta will settle then everyone will be running the same 6 Pokemon again.
I've been playing this game for two days and got to great ball but now I have ranked anxiety
usually don't have trouble getting trades. can someone help me?
>>59584378don't worry it eventually goes away and you end up losing 9 times in a row and dropping from MB1 to 4, speaking from experience
>>59584301Is that why people have trick room on Gallade? Gallade is also very frail.
sometimes i get an opponent with chomp z, i ready up for an unexpected ass whooping, then it tickles and i win
I feel like my teams are always trying to stop the opponent from doing their thing instead of threatening them enough that they need to play around me instead
>>59584401Every time I use Gallade it feels like a shitmon but some people seem to really like it
>>59584380There you go.If someone could help me pass around this guy.
>>59584419you can get over this ez by picking a favorite
Grassy terrain reduces the damage of earthquake? Wouldn't have known that because the terminology page that's supposed to explain the game doesn't say word one about it. Do the other terrains have hidden mechanics too?
>start using tinkaton>go against a team with 4 fairies heh nothin personnel kid...
>>59584422thanks bwo
>>59584475it's on the earthquake description bro
My kingdom for the Assault Vest...
I genuinely think Mega Garchomp is better than Garchomp Z is right now.
Anyone able to please help with this request? I need rillaboom for healing mega golisopod and Megagross Steelroller stuff >>59583784
Holy shit mega mance and mega zomp are amazing also I'm barely seeing any mega zucarios I guess /vp/ was wrong lule
>>59582399the biggest problem I've had trying to use this guy in doubles is how awkward everything having protect isSO many situations where an opponent predicts aegislash attacking and then it's stuck in blade form on the next turn unless you use a turn shielding or switch out, which leaves its partner wide open
>>59584499How you running mega garz?
>>59584499uninvested zcario still gets gaped by sneasler kek that's why
>>59582530GoliClefableToxi
>>59584488we have AV at home
>>59584499Xcariobros we're still alive...!
For all the dooming over its coming, M-Salamence didn't really warp up the meta as many speculated. Was the meta really that different compared to a decade ago?
>no toxic orbWhy?
>>59584555we're in new toy phase buddy give it a few weeks i've already seen more mences today than yesterday
I burned through all my tickets
>>59583965Swalotbro whats your team
>>59584127The real question is why they haven't added Ursaluna yet. It was in the trailers. They've already nerfed Bloodmoon. It can't be it's power level.Who are they protecting?
regular mega garchomp is in a really good place right now because nobody is expecting him to pull out any ground moves lmao, particularly if he’s your only mega slot
>>59583306Rock head and stab rock and fire recoil moves
I'm just a mb4 shitter but this team has been putting in the work. I just have to be an absolute nigger with the swaps and the opponent has a pretty good chance of getting assfucked.
>>59584611muddy over WB on pelipper is a bit odd considering you seem pretty confident that you'll win the weather war with thunder on fraig
>have stuff cheeks swalot with body press>enemy has multiple physical attackers weak to fightingi keep getting hilariously good matchups using stupid pokemon
>>59584283Is there a reason to keep using Scovillain on this team instead of whatever fire type when you already have Rilla? It seems like Incin, H-arc, or maybe even Zard or Ceruledge could be good in that slot instead.
'ate fairies forcing me to carry coverage that's shit against everything else
>hes not running steel roller metagross
>>59584616I'm a MB4 shitter, being overconfident and making retarded plays is the norm.I never open with it anyways, it's there in case of fire. If Charizard is in the enemy team I don't bring Golisopod. Or do I?
Time for her to shine with megamence and rillaboom everywhere and garchomp becoming endangered species
>>59584645>dies to psyspam
>>59584650>not using it on psyspam for rillaboom matchups
>>59584651rillaboom runs high horse power
>>59584645I wish garchompfags were that easy to discourageI've played a mono ice team before and those fuckers STILL bring it
>>59584652Gimmora outspeeds
I love this shonen protagonist rabbit, he's so cool
CinderFLOP
hey, i am using LDPlayer 14 to run champions on my PC, stuck on log in screen, and it throws the error 1001. is it over bros?
Is bulky offense a thing outside of trick room? Or is that just a 6v6 singles team?
>>59584657CinderBased
>>59584665It can work with Garchomp.
>>59584665offense has been power crept more than defense (outside of specific situations like arch stamina) enough that it's very difficult to rely on bulk to tank hits and dish out revenge this is responsible for the extreme level of reliance on speed control across all teams and probably my least favorite aspect of modern pokemon balance
>>59584676oh and not to mention half the reason the single example of defensive power creep I could name is good is because itself benefits from offensive power creep via electro shot
>>59584664probably but I don't even get why you'd emulate this game. It's free on mobile if you don't have a switch for whatever reason. Just stream from that.
>>59584683I like playing on my PC.
>>59584676a necessary evil in order to prevent stallshit from taking root on the ladder and reducing the playercount to 0 overnight
anyone get success from mega chimecho?
I really hope golispod continues to be viable for the rest of this format. I just started last month and while I got MB pretty quick I couldn't find a team I really jived with. But Golispod just kind of clicks with me and my playstyle.
Poor scizor chan.
>>59584693Stall is already a plague on BSS as is.>Umbreon>Corviknight>Mega Venusaur>Sylveon>Hippowdon>Toxapex>SkeledirgeI'm probably missing some but if you see any combination of these you're in for a bad time. Though things may have changed with the new update (probably not). Nerfing wish was a necessity. They should nerf yawn too.
>jolteon discharge paralyzes both my pokemon t1 and they both fail to act>their pawmot starts spamming discharge too and another of my pokemon gets paralyzed>he wins from reviving a pokemon that immediately uses a sitrus berry upon revivingthis faggot didn't deserve to win. what bullshit
>>59584658Ehhhh doesn't really roll off the tongue >>59584670Much better
>Have Kleavor>opponent sends Indeedee anywayThanks?
I've lost interest in mainline games. Champions is all i need...
>>59584744What's your kleavor set
>>59584758Stone axe X scissor protect tailwind there isn’t really anything else as far as Kleavor sets
>>59584768I feel like that's the first time I heard some mention tailwind on kleavor sets but otherwise agreed, very linear mon.
>maintenance
>>59584768>kleavor has tailwindwhat the fuck
>>59584768Cc over protect, u turn over x scissor on mine.
>>59584806I'm the other guy kind of surprised, funny enough I should've known this by transitive property, aka I've heard of it on scyther sets for singles bullshit on false swipe vids, and scissor also having it. So why the fuck would I think Kleavor was exempt.
the never goat as spoken. you are all ungrateful and he is CORRECT https://x.com/MichaelderBeste/status/2098133470190924006
>>59584697I've seen a trick room team with Audino giving it simple then stacking boosts for stored power/dazzling gleam with a storm throw pangoro, but that was a while ago.
>>59584768Nigga why aren't you running scarf kleavor?
>>59584859Sash is better
Yeah, I am really tempted to get that skin-tight suit
>>59581922What goes well with Mega Mence
>>59584924your dilator, faggot
>>59584928I've been using Mence since gen 4 and missed when it got a mega form.
>>59584066I don't see the problem
>>59584929so you been a faggot for a long time. good for you.
Has this always had the colo song?
>>59584986This song btwhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d6-P7YqF0F4
>>59584665that's what menceslop is
>>59582592I still can't belive Aurorus didn't get powergem.
every single psychic or fairy type i fight now is carrying mystical fireit's golisopover
pod/dnite/arch/grimm/politoed is working fairly well for mecan't quite figure out what I need for the last member though
>>59585107actually I'm gonna try tsareena, anti fake out spam and some insurance against rock types is nice
>>59585107pincurchin obviously
why did they put gluttony in without pinch berries
What’s a good movepool and stat spread for a mixed Life Orb Dnite? Moves I’m wanting to run are Ice Spinner, Extremespeed, Fire Blast and Draco Meteor. Main purpose of Ice Spinner is to fuck over Indeedee with M Golisopod and Extremespeed is for obvious priority but other moves are open to change.
>>59585245running fire blast on anything is insane person behavior unless your team also has gravity draco is powerful enough on its own without special investment that you can probably just go adamant so everything else hits harder (going dragon claw instead is also fine here)
>>59585245If you're not running protect you might as well ditch the mixed part and just go life orb inner focus
>>59585263life orb inner focus phys*
