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Pokémon Champions is a free to play online battle simulator available on Switch and mobile. It features ranked, casual and private battles for both singles and doubles, and will be used for VGC tournaments in 2026.

>News
Reg MC is now live. Baltimore Regionals September 18-20th. Stream:
https://www.youtube.com/live/LhsiXLo-MIw?is=xm2Nvc2rQaxTyxq9

>Resources and useful links
Community Tournaments usage data: https://pikalytics.com/
Ladder usage data: https://pokechamdb.com/en
Damage Calculator
https://nerd-of-now.github.io/NCP-VGC-Damage-Calculator/
New Player Guide(NEW PEOPLE READ THIS):
https://rentry.org/pcg-guide (now taking suggestions and feedback)

Quick FAQ
>Do I need my own Pokémon to play?
No, the game features a recruitment system, but transferring from Home is recommended to save time and resources.
>What makes the game so much more accessible than before?
All aspects of a Pokémon are customizable with VP, a currency earned simply by playing the game. IVs are also removed.
Ask in the thread if you want any specific Pokémon, and someone will respond.
>Is there single player content?
No.
>Do I need a Nintendo Online subscription?
No.
>What's the starter pack?
US$6.99 one time purchase for 50 training tickets (fully train for free), 30 Teammate Tickets (recruit Pokemon without using VP), 50 extra box space and the LGPE trainer music. Only available on Switch for now.
>Is anything locked behind a paywall?
So far everything gameplay relevant is also purchasable with VP. Only E-Floette require ZA transfer.

>/pcg/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread): https://pastebin.com/d2FJZdPh


Old >>59602603
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>>59606754
The sky is clouds...
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>>59606754
I like this new stream layout
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What's the website where people see the teams on baltimore in the previous thread?
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>>59606782
https://www.pokedata.ovh/standingsVGC/0000192/masters/ This one?
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*Flops*
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>>59606793
KANTOOOsisters...........
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Bro, the fucking reg MA Froslass team is 8-1.
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>use head smash with arcanine
>miss 3 times in a row with it
Okay, this Pokemon is meme. Off the team it goes.
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>>59606807
Git gud
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ME USE NASTY PLOT ME USE MAKE IT RAIN ME ONESHOT BOTH YOUR MONS ME SO GOOD AT THIS GAME
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The reg MB Zard/Rain is also 8-1.
There's one kind of new balance team with Zard/Floette that's also 8-1.
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>>59606811
"Just make the game stop making you miss the 80% hit rate attack!"
Meme Pokemon.
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>the one guys running base delphox
what does he know
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crit mence is bad meme
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>>59606816
>new balance team with Zard/Floette
wut
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mence is currently experiencing the xerneas/miraidon effect
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I want to add a Choice Scarf Competitive pokemon to my team. Am I better off with Milotic or Empoleon?
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>>59606823
Couple new pieces in Rilla and Gholdengo.
15th place currently.
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>>59606832
milotic doesn't really lend itself to scarf, its best at being fat and you can't click recover or coil with it

empoleon would be better for that if you really want it
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>>59606832
you are better off not scarfing either of those
but milotic
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>>59606841
>>59606843
Bearing in mind I only bring it when I see there are a lot of Intimidate users on the other team. My team is basically a 5-man squad with one I never bring.
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>>59606852
both of them are fat bitches who appreciate having options
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our guy mence needs to find a new team because the incin-rilla-sneas squad isnt doing it
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>>59606858
I prefer being able to catch people off guard with the speed. They aren't exactly my intended win-cons.
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>>59606799
which one? :o can i see?
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hippowdon and altaria are 8-1
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>>59606435
I think this anon may be on to something...
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What's with the sudden rise of Milotic?
Just Mence check?
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Does Knock Off still deals bonus damage if a mon already mega'd?
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>>59606901
Incin is better now too so lots of intimidates flying around Milotic is a softcheck for salamence and a hard check to incin I feel like, good overall just to have too etc
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>>59606792
No it's this one since it's searchable. But thank you! >>59606733
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>>59606913
I found this one, it's not as good as that one but you can search by pokemon and item.
https://vgchistory.com/tournaments/regional-baltimore-2027
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A little more completely meaningless data:
There are 2 Salamence teams that went 8-1 today, while 4 teams with Charizard Y went 8-1.
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>>59607007
2025 miraidon moment
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>>59607007
piggybacking with other useless info, Salamence had a -6% conversion rate to day 2, while Zard had a slightly positive +2% conversion.
Some mons had as high as a +10% conversion rate. Floette's was like +4%.
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>>59607043
What were the top 5 conversion rates?
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>>59607047
I think this is in order.
Gholdengo, Kingambit, Raichu, Staraptor.
Some mons that had positive conversions didn't even chart in the top 20 usage.
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Gholdengo just feels so good into everything
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>>59607072
Especially when Zard isn't around, even when it is there's always power gem as long as you outspeed.
Straight up walls a lot of meta mons too.
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>sneasler
>kingambit
>rillaboom
>incineroar
>gholdengo
>archaludon
>basculegion
close enough, welcome back reg H
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>>59607080
It's like Reg H and Reg G smashed together where the Megas are the restricted mon and we have banned all the sub-legendaries that supported them.
Leaves a massive power gap.
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A really slow Mega with a threatening spread move would single handedly save hard TR.
Camerupt does it best right now, but it's not able to outdamage the balance megas, meaning you commit a lot of resources to do less.
TR needed an Ice Rider, but none appeared.
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>ghold use surges
>aegislash (same typing and effectively higher stats) nowhere to be seen

what having no spread move and intimidate spam does to a mfer
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>>59607090
FREE HIM
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Man this shot looks so fucking funny
Cinderace and Salamence looks fucking ready to fight and then there's Intelleon and Rillaboom not even bothering
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>>59607090
You have Gardevoir nigger
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>>59607115
Not slow.
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>>59607043
*Salamence remained basically unchanged in Day 1 to Day 2 in terms of conversion rate. I don't know what I was reading.
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>indeedee
>boyh genders vary enough to serve different purposes and are equally good
>meowtics and m-meowtics
What happened?
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>>59607165
>fuck go back
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>enemy opens with bridge and Whimsicott against my baracat and 'pod
>know for sure he's either going to tailwind with whim or switch in pelipp to electroshot my 'pod so I fakeout his whim and mega+SD the 'pod
>he protects on both, next turn he encores my pod and aura spheres my cat
>except I switched out baracat for Farigiraf so the encore fails and the aura sphere does nothing
>drill run crit on the bridge into a forfeit
Behead bridgeniggers
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the fact that you can't even outspeed sneedler with tailwind up is so retarded
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>>59607248
Talonflame can
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did charizard lose yet?
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>>59607300
>Gholdengo and salamence don't dodge the rock slide just to make it extra funnier
One fucking job
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>>59606832
you're looking for choice scarf defiant annihilape
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>oh cool I'm in a 2v1 with politoed I'll just swords dance while it protects to stall perish turns
>encore

fucking bloody bitchod bastard
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>>59606754
>Altaria
>Psych-Up Metagross
>Goddamn Coil Milotic

This NPC looks kinda weak but in fact packs some crazy skills.
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>>59607322
bro?
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>>59607349
frog encore isn't priority bud
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God I love the Mence Sand team
Being able to bring both mega in the same game is cool
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Man I'm actually really enjoying the current meta alot more then the last one. I feel like I'm seeing alot more unique teams this time around
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>stockpile/calm mind spamming partners into psyche up mega zucario
this is actually the most vantablack AIDs faggot thing I have ever fought, holy christ

it's so fast there's nothing you can even do to stop it unless you have tailwind up or predict the exact turn it switches in to fake out
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full para chance was never nerfed to 1/8 chance
you can't ever convince me it's that low after how many times ychu zap cannon has resulted in a full para on turn fucking one
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>>59607369
I basically only get psyslop
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Invest in Dragapult
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clicked encore on gholdengo again award
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>>59607489
My goat
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>>59606754
Bro wtfff
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>bridge coilotic start
>fake out coilotic, blizzard both, bridge freezes.
>feint the bridge just in case, blizzard both again.
>coilotic gets his coil, still slower then froslass.
>he brings the zard, but feint the coilotic just in case and shadowball his ass
>last mon is chomp
>both fall to liquidation.
Nice set up mons, but what did he mean by that?

>>59607543
Based team tbqh
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Mega Meowstic vs Louis Markl VR semifinals in mdb stream
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VR finals teams are Salamence, Floette, Gholdengo, Incineroar, Rillaboom, Sneasler
vs the same but with Dragonite over Salamence
Worlds all over again
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>>59607613
Dragonite lets goo
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>opponent starts with double protect
wow thanks for wasting my time
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>>59607721
wowe! free coil!
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>Wolfe is up against Adi next
>MDB is texting him literally on stream how to beat wolfe's team
shouldn't this be cheating?
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>>59607752
Probably, you have to prove the allegation to the right people though.
Both of their teams are already on stream and it's not a mystery that everyone pregames matchups overnight.
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>sizzle reel of popoffs that people get banned for
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There is no reason to not show the 1st round of the day on stream.
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Why is rain so dominant still? It isn't even that good is it? It's even easier to solve mpert + arch this reg.
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when did pokeaim become a bogged out wholesome chungus? like wtf
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>>59607765
I thought people don't even run pert nowadays and just use dual weather with zard
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>last mon is Corvi vs Corvi
>both +6 def
>no crits just throwing shit at each other and healing
>he forfeits
thank you kind soul
or maybe he didn't know about timeouts
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>>59607770
https://circuit.victoryroad.pro/tournament/vr-sep26-2

he's there some, also zard is extremely overrated right now the moment people start putting rock slide on sneeder
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>>59607781
Why don't we look at the current tournament's standings rather than an online tourney.
https://www.pokedata.ovh/standingsVGC/0000192/masters/
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I mean this when I say this - why would you literally ever run dnite over mence? He's #1 in this tournament right now and I don't understand. Is it literally just how good multiscale is for momentum in open sheet?
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>>59607783
That would be because im retarded, ty. Extremely varied results, pretty cool.
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>>59607784
Are you going to be okay if Mence doesn't win?
Are you alright?
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Who are we rooting for
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>>59607784
Dragonite is a meta call to counter all the Mence like how he countered all the Zard
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>>59607788
I don't like mence he's fucking ugly and boring to use, I just want to be better at the game and I don't understand what dragonite does better.

>>59607792
How? He's slower - is it multiscale? Does the 35 sped matter?
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>>59607799
Multiscale means he can oneshot Mence while Mence cannot oneshot him
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>>59607803
Cool, that makes sense, thank you. I feel like I'd fuck it up and break multiscale before I got to go against mence.
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gengar makes sense on paper to bring, but it feels like he struggles into most of the partners you bring him to counter
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The #1 change I want to the game right now is for grassy terrain to happen all at once.
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That eject button play was good
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>double crit spd drop
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>THREE crits in a row
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>>59607822
3 crits in a row and spd drop
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how do you memorize/learn resists? is there a tool/game/website to do so?
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Yeah Gengar is so good into Raichu
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>>59607825
Its just second nature at this point after years of playing showdown.
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Did the crit matter or would dengo have oneshotted Gengar anyway
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>>59607833
maybe if it was bulky gar
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why would you bring seedceruledge? What is he trying to counter with this? Dhengo/rillaboom?
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Does this Vivilon have no other attacking move why would you risk a hurricane move there
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>>59607833
Perish Trap Gengars are always more bulky, but Life Orb Shadowball Goldhengo still has a very high change to OHKO them
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>>59607837
gambit probably
maybe fish
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>>59607840
I guess that's good role compression since all 4 of those are pretty common. Gambit is not very common in this tournament, I knew his fraud ass would drop in usage.

I wonder if bitterblade 2hkos arch.
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>>59607840
Won't ceruledge die to sucker punch
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>>59607839
They're *bulky.
*physically
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>>59607848
They go for 32 HP, thus bulky
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>>59607846
it survives sucker at +1 easy but not kowtow
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>ceru and rilla are speed tied
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>>59607855
>>59607846
There is no way ceru lives sucker punch, but ohkos with sneak. Is the idea here you bitterblade and tank the sucker?
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Nothing is stopping Make it Rain here it's over
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>>59607860
it just prevents it from being a total brick when gambit is out I would guess
also there's incin but i'm pretty sure they run darkest lariat
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Nice call on the double up
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It's really cool to watch this content but it's a shame it's just not remotely the same as closed sheet - so the teams/ideas don't transfer to me as a shitter.
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>>59607871
Closed sheet is almost a different game
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they only show wolfe's losing games for the chat
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Why would you let your pod open in front of incin
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>>59607879
protect predick
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Wolfe is getting murdered by this Arch even after that amazing turn 1
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Stamina is such a retarded ability
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>>59607891
Just bring a special attacker
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gardevoir sucks
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>>59607894
What are Gardevoir and Indeedee?
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Pod + rain feels unbeatable
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>>59607900
Shit is what they are. Bring froslass next time
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>>59607900
The wrong special attackers.
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>>59607908
>froslass
lol you mean Raichu
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>>59607908
Does blizzard ohko?
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>>59607915
Not even close
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everybody called metagross washed who's laughing now
all he needed was to get fraudzard out of the way
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Psychic Seed Milotic into this lead is insane
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>>59607919
Nevermind Raptor is just that cracked
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>>59607915
No, but flash cannon from Arch KOs Fros lol.
Weatherball from Zard Y is a reliable 1HKO on Arch. That's how much damage you need to do to remove it.
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>game is over from turn 1 because their leads hard counter my leads and any switch in would probably die before it gets to do anything
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Why would you not psych up the Staraptor here
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>>59607932
hes gonna get chipped to death with no recovery anyway might as well see how much damage you can do
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holy strategy
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I hate flinches
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>>59607918
You were saying
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>>59607918
Metafraud
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Noivern has now come very close to making top cut.
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>>59607813
i think something like that will happen, its fucking up the five minute matches mission statement
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>>59607915
No, but it does like 80% with a chance to freeze. Add follow me and it's as good as dead
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Ty any anon in advance :))
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>>59607945
>>59607949
still top cut get bent
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I am stuck around 1500 and i keep losing to motherfucking trick room
I do not know how to counter it
When I try to run shit like imprison indeedee, it just gets OHKO'd by something like a gambit or a golisopod
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oh it's not top cut yet is it?
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>>59607974
No.
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funny die song
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>>59607968
You need better ev spreads.
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The Gengar teams are really oppressive now due to Rilla eject button.
It's hard to not accidentally target it so you don't reengage the trap, nevermind if Incin decided to parting shot friendly Rilla just to guarantee a switch in.
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Conner vs Nails on stream
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>1%
>>
scripted
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>They doubted CHADcineroar
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Heartbreaker
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>>59607965
More like top bitch
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are they playing finals today?
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>>59608042
Yes.
Only Internats are 3 day.
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Good lead for Nick
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Really nice call
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Why wasn't Raichu more popular in MB?
It looks really fucking cracked here
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>>59608062
Garchomp was everywhere
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Running Psyspam, what should be my last two Pokemon that aren't Armarouge, Indeedee, M-Gardevoir, and SNEEDler.
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>>59608062
Raichu struggles with Garchomp. It's why in some lower elo Teams you'd see Pelipper with Soak, but the fucked would get raped by a Rock Slide.
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>>59608070
Good ol Pelliper. Very dependable and a good team player.
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>>59608070
Who's your psyspammer?
Unironically, VenuZard. Have a sunmode.
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>>59608062
The Respecter
Camerupt
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>>59608074
Both M-Garde and Armarouge. But there are times I get tempted to just drop Expanding Force on Mega Garde and just run Psychic instead because of all the fuck ass Pelippers and opposing Armarouges with Wide Guard.

>>59608073
I need to get one. The only one I got I gave to my brother for his Rain Team.
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Yeah this is over already
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It's 50/50 now
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I have hyper voice fatigue
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>Tailwind
What?
This is never the play you die to Hyper Voice
Should've doubled into the Sylveon
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This dude
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I made a similar post during Worlds but Rose is so, so bad. Not being able to keep track of what Pokemon are left is a consistent mistake she makes.
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>>59608083
Wasn't going to KO anyway.
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>>59608062
Was about to ask this. Raichu stonks through the roof, its deceptively tanky too
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>>59608088
Could've hoped for a crit
Tailwind always loses you the game
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>>59608092
Not if Chomp protects.
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>>59607963
Just a sec
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mega gimmicks are just lame desu
mainly because there's no gimmick it's just eat shit and die most of the time
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WOLFE OUT WOLFE OUT WOLFE OUT WOLFE OUT WOLFE OUT WOLFE OUT WOLFE OUT WOLFE OUT
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>>59608104
unc needs to retire
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a mega lopunny team top cut
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>>59608104
15th place isnt bad
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>>59608104
HURRAY
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>>59608104
thats what he gets for bringing a boring ass team
meanwhile perish trap still in it
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Wolfe was never good, i'm afraid.
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>>59608114
his schtick of trying to be different just doesnt work in this unga bunga meta
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>mega gardevoir and lopunny team
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>froslass vs lopunny
i wouldve loved to see these 2 at the finals, vgc mathcmaking is absolute trash
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what country is NA supposed to be
>>
Its called goonspam
The creator said so on twitter
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>guy stalling my trick room, protecting and not killing my weak farig and deedee
>pull the double trick room move on his double switch to extend my turns
moments when you feel smart
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>>59608152
What's that trick?
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>>59608163
both your pokemon use trick room, thus undoing and resetting it, giving you a full set of turns
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>>59608168
That's smart. Now i won't fall for it.
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>>59608119
There's a guy bringing Perish in this very tournament
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>>59608175
gengar perish hasn't been that uncommon
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>>59608179
And it's still more unique than whatever he brought
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good night :3
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based gooner
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>>59608182
there's only like one other guy who brought what he did and he already has a rep for being perish guy the hipsterism wins
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Of course its a nigga running gooner balance
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total gooner defeat
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Is this their best meta yet
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bro none of the black dudes team other than gard has protect
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>>59608119
>his schtick of trying to be different
didnt he bring psyspam + m salamence?
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I want mence to win
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>>59608235
yeah and it's a fuckin scuffed combo that got walled by arch which wasn't a problem for anyone else
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>Sand made it to top cut
I hope he wins it all
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>>59608238
doesnt hypervoice 2 shot
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>>59608249
Wolfe's Salamence didnt run Hyper Voice lmao, he used Double Edge + Draco
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>>59608254
i mean garde
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When's Wolfe's next match?
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>>59608259
Oct. 9–11
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>>59608249
garde dies after so whatever
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>>59608238
>>59608249
Dengo 2 shots with shadowball too right?
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>>59608276
it's a 3 shot for cheese man the archs are spdef
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>>59607813
>Sandstorm hurts all Pokemon individually
>Next grass heals each Pokemon one at a time
>Don’t forget items going off
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Sandbros, when was the last time we were good...
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Weird stream setup, isn't Lorenzo the one playing Raichu + Staraptor
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Oh fuck mega rillaboom
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Rillaboom + Sneasler shell basically bullied big 6 out if existence. You can't run that sort of cheesy offense when Sneasler is outspeeding everything in tail wind and OHKOing Zard with rockslide
Weirdly enough, this actually ended up creating a more diverse meta with more team Archetypes. Thank you Weasel of Healthy Meta, I guess
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>>59608312
The audio cut off too. This stream is a mess.
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>>59608312
Okay they fixed it
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Huge miss
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I hate Muddy Water and that's the reason why.
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>>59608315
Yeah, the best part of this meta by far is the all of the older mons (Gholdengo, H-Arc, Armarouge, Milotic, Mega Garde, Corv, etc.) surging back onto the scene because they now synergize with the new pieces on the board really well and can use their unique strengths to shore up their matchup with the previous top dogs while having their weaknesses shored up properly.
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Sandbros it's not looking good
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>>59608341
Sand won despite that atrocious accuracy drop. We're back.
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>>59608341
Nevermind I KNEEL dd
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>>59608341
Sandoubters...? Where did you go?
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>>59608341
uhhh
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I would just tailwind + expanding force there
Not sure what the punish would be
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>>59608358
ice beam
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>>59608365
It was when Rila + Staraptor was on the field
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HOWS THAT MISS LOL
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SandGOD I kneel
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Eat shit faglotic spammers
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menceGODS own this format never 4get
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This is what he gets for running inaccurate moves
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What do we say to uppity milotics
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>>59608380
golem get ye gone
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>>59608376
There are more Raichus in top 8.
It's the mouse's format.
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>>59608386
a passing fad mence will reclaim the throne soon
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>>59608393
Raichu thrives into Mence so if it thrives then so will the mouse
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>>59608386
Are you implying this is a Miki Mouse tournament?
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Meanwhile in Juniors: Squawkabilly is in
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Who are we rooting for? I definitely want vivilloniggers and milotards to lose.
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I just woke up, any of my boi mega shit cumshot in the top 8?
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Doesn't houndoom answer megapod and psyspam? Why is there no doomroar combo?
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>>59608413
cumshot made it but bombed
>>59608419
no one runs hard psyspam and pod is paired with rain niggas
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>>59608410
We're rooting for Sand right now.
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How did Sand get this far with all the sneedler
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>another nigger
KILL IT KILL IT KILL IT!!!
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>>59608438
Having a clear CC target makes dealing with it much easier. Honestly something like Low Kick Kingambit is much more annoying on the ladder.
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male confirmed the superior diddy
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OUT
FUCKING
SKILLED
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Speedy Weasel of Healthy Meta :)
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member when i said when people learn to use rock slide on sneedler it was game over for zardy and in general? yesterday? i do
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>>59608442
Low kick on Ttar and Flamethrower on Mence deal with gambit pretty reliably
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>>59608448
Remember when no one responded because your insight isn't unique or esoteric?
That's what we all remember.
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>>59608460
t.
flinchedtard
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>>59608450
That's what I do, but honestly I hate Low Kick on Ttar.
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is psych up meta still in? perish trap? anything interesting?
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>>59608464
What else do you want to run besides rock slides and knock off? Dragon Dance? Ice Punch?
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>>59608473
Yeah, Dragon Dance. Knock Off and Rock Slide have low base power, so Ttar feels like a wet noodle sometimes.
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>bring froslass
>don't blizzard
what did he mean by that?
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>>59608483
Honestly the real mistake was setting up Veil instead of doing anything else. Psychic Fang was so obvious.
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>>59608474
The way Sand is played now is that Mence is actually your main damage dealer.
Ttar is there for sandstream and knock-off support most of the times.
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>>59608485
When I plaed Fros last reg I felt like it almost always felt like a mistake to actually click aurora veil just simply because lass is just so frail that you essentially are always going to be 2 shot even with veil and it has a target on it's head to be focused down.
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Why do so few people bring speed control to open sheet teams, when it's in pretty much every game in masterball?
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oh this guy's like, AUTISTIC autistic
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>>59608493
Because they hear wolfe and aaron prioritize speed control very highly in videos when the truth is while it's important it's vastly overrated by 1600 players like me.
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>>59608485
I think he was hedging on steel roller into rilla but I agree it felt like a bad decision. the rock slide flinches sucked but he had a lot of outs and choked.
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>>59608493
raptors and mences carry tailwind and diddies have tr and there's feed and seedler and exca what more do you want
wasting a turn in this fatass meta can be risky too
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>>59608487
I know, but still.

>>59608493
I feel like it's a nice bonus, but most of the time you don't REALLY need it. Maybe if you have to outspeed something like a Raichu Y.
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IVs kind of suck. I feel like you could even further reduce it to like 3-5 points. It's so fucking annoying to fight a constant battle of attrition of calcing for a certain survive/ko or speed win. Everyone just creeps each other.
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ychu being meta is cringe if not for any other reason than it introduces an RNG status basically every time it attacks
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>gholdengo
>nasty plot and die
name a better duo
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>>59608553
He kind of sucks, he's yet to put in work and is equally as readable in closed sheet. I feel like he'll fall in usage along with gambit.
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>>59608568
He's one of the few very positive day 2 conversion. It's still really good.
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Finally the rat gets a taste of its own bullshit
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Garchomp Z sissies?
Where are you? I don't hear you anymore?
I thought it was the most underrated Mega that was gonna win everything because muh draco muh 151 speed?
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kek that early forfeit
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No E-Speed to get rid of the butterfly was insane.
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>>59608553
choice scarf nasty plot cheese string
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LETS GO BRADY
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>>59608592
Or tailwind and fire into the bug, that gengar WAS NOT clicking perish song t1.
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And people were saying "Garchomp was good and OP enough already" and "it's fine without a broken Mega" while at the same time hyping Z as the best thing ever and everyone was just le heckin' underrating it.
How embarrassing.
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the white man marches on
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>>59608615
>Only one zard Y
Grim
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>>59608606
Yes, it was either Protect or Shadow Ball into Gholdengo. Very weird choices that led to a VIVILLON sweep.
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>>59608596
fuck his faggot butterfly and bara squad
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I saw quite a few glimmoras yesterday and none now
killed by psyspam?
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>>59608635
it never really did anything important vs anyone
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>>59608615
What are our chances golisobros
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How come they left Wolfe off the bracket?
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Apologize
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>>59608635
It's just not very good, I think. Nihilego would be much better.
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>>59608615
You guys told me this was Zard's comeback tour WHAT the fuck happened
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>>59608652
I'm sorry you got fucked over twice and that GF still thinks this is Gen 4 but lets everyone else be a min-maxxed 3-in-1 romhack abilities fanfic broken piece of shit.
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>>59608621
There's 2 in top cut, can you read?
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cumshot live
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>>59608652
>Becomes redder
>Doesn't become a fire type
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cumshot mega shitted...
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You guys aren't talking about the real loser of this new regulation: Mega Swampert
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>>59608716
who gives a shit rain was so boring and he's 1 dimensional
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the jeet fucked him this last game, yes the matchup wasn't favourable but the guy played like a bitch and got fucked hybthat
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>>59608716
nope
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>>59608737
dude just never tried to do a read
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Can jeetLORD beat BradyCHAD
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>Dnite beat Mence in VR tourney
>Zard/Meowstic was 3rd
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>>59608742
he had insane positioning on t3 or some with a free SD but he kowtowd on arch like a noob. as if he needed to kill farig more than having something to hurt the two tanks
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>>59608747
I legit prefer the jeet because the fatass uses vivill*n
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>>59608753
He threw hard when he clicked sucker punch, fari switching in was extremely obvious, perhaps he overread or was just plain too nervous.
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ill root for anything against the h1b1 jeet
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>>59608738
No one but delusional retards thought Absol Z would be good at anything but singles.
Even Garchomp Z copers had straws to grab on.
Absol Z won where it was supposed to win and where it mattered.
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>>59608764
Exactly this. I don't know why people are so afraid of going anything other than Sucker Punch.
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>>59608765
ill root for him since he's running golisopod and i want golisopod to win
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>>59608765
he's at least second generation because he speaks with a proper accent. He's civilised if you can call americans as such
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scarf dd on dd violence
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rock slideler
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Indeedee [Male]
Psychic Surge

Choice Scarf
Modest

Expanding Force

Trick

Trick Room

Imprison

Amazing set, what a h itler
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Tyranitar GODS...
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I fucking hate corviknight so much, it's ugly, annoying, boring, and slow
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>>59608827
>hating corvids
>rooting for the guy aiming for flinches
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sneasler should be rock type
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>>59608833
I didn't say that. I just hate corviknight
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I love corviknight
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Corviknight with the black on black violence let's GO
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Metagross fucking sucks and milotic is a gamble
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Rock Slide needs a nerf. Faggot strats.
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>top 4 with rock slide fishing
nice game
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>>59608855
Honestly this wasn't Metagross' best matchup, he probably did well so far
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This last set was very entertaining to see live. Rng hit after rng hit, amusing even.
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Who do we want to win
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>little tiny babby plays the same team i played hte last 3 regs
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>it's the fucking oranguru kid reel again
>>59608872
Golisopod. Perish is extra gay now thanks to eject button rilla.
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>>59608872
Not perish trap, rooting for Rajesh here.
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>>59608652
nah, you can go and stay go
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>>59608872
sand, even though the jeet has a cool team
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>>59608876
this kid is coming out as trans in 6 years. Guaranteed.
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>>59608888
Doubt. I just don't think he'll play Pokemon anymore because he'll realize the value of money and time.
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I'm not hopeful that this match will go the way that I'd like.
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>>59608894
We trust in the fancyjeet.
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>>59608892
he's already coming from a filthy rich family so he won't give money that much attention like a poorfag
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last match was proof that rock slide is a strategy for blacks
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>>59608899
they have a natural tendency towards gambling and thats ok
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brady has no win condition here
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WHAT AN EXCITING META
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>>59608908
This but unironically unironic.
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why are people bringing politoad vs pelliper
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I love bridge
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>>59608910
peli cant just click tailwind wide guard to win anymore poli has better utility and typing
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>>59608910
Perish song, muddy water i guess
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>>59608912
i feel like tw, hurricane, filler protect is probably almost as good if not better, guess im wrong
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>>59608910
A lot of the poli sets that aren't perish song also ohko salamance with ice beam.
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>>59608916
have fun getting raped by cock slide lmao
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>>59608916
Pelipper has worse typing and stats
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>>59608910
Politoad is better offensively and has more utility
Peli isn't great in to a meta where rock damage is everywhere
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it's kind of funny that chu-y buttfucks both of these teams
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These niggas are gonna timeout on bridge heals
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>both games without a mega
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>no gengar
if he loses this will save global challenge from being filled with perish shitters hopefully
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>AIEEEEEEEEE SLEEP POWDER SAVE MEEE WHY DIDNT I BRING VIVILLON LIKE I ALWAYS DO???
>I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO IF THE OPPONENT'S POKEMON ARE NOT ASLEEP!!!
>HELP MEE
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Why the fuck would you not only not have a 2 mega team, but not even bring that 1 mega to every game? There is no world where you win this game without significant misplays.
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>>59608947
but muh fake out spam (even if opp has farig)
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>SHIT how do I deal with the phisically bulky pokemon in my opponent's team? OH I KNOW! Incineroar and Rillaboom!
dude is tired
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mega shit cumshot in finals...
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The matchup was only bad if the guy brought the Gengar mode.
When you don't make the winning move both times then you're hosed.
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erm why didnt he perish trap
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>>59606754
>Commit some of the worse plays of all time, loosing golispod and bad
>Scarf chomp wins me the game again
I did not deserve that win
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>>59608964
hyper offensive mogs perish teams
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>>59608964
He gets farmed by arch + farig if he does that
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oh fug it's ugarte, the final boss of sand teams
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The Ugarte team has so many rocks and the corviknight is a checkmate if you lose Arch without bringing Zard. Zard may not even get to play either due to the rocks
That's a scary matchup.
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press F to spit on Basculegion's grave. Rillaboom really sent him to the trashcan he belongs to
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>>59608965(me)
Losing* fuck
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>>59608981
The meta is like an ecosystem. Zard's presence is lessened, which means Gholdengo gets in too. Basc doesn't like him.
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what's the deal with eject button rilla?
does it really end up being worth giving up miracle seed damage or sitrus recovery in exchange for a one-time use pivot?
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>>59608985
its useful on perish teams cause you can swap out gengar and get him back in on the same turn
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>>59608985
It's for Perish Trap shenanigans
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double weather setter vs sand isn't easy
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>drill run pod in finals
based I knew he should be running this move
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>it's (probably) not mega ttar

holy
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>>59608989
think he has to bring cumshot or he gets owned by mence ttar
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>didn't swap farig and let ttar 2x boost just to dragon pulse

is this guy retarded
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>people cheering on golisopod
cute
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It would be really funny if he swaps pod for toad then megas ttar and gets caught on charging electroc shot
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mence with flamethrower is tough with no backup mega for pod
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Mega ttar deny poli
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how is this fag gonna deal with corviknight
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holy FUCK
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>>59608999
P E A K
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>>59608999
holy trips of truth checked (kinda)
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jeetbros, what happened?
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This is a SAND meta
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>ttar sweep in 2026
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>>59609007
all the izzat... lost...
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>>59609007
It's a near impossible matchup.
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>bringing farig
>bringing farig when you don't have a fakeout to secure him getting off tr

???????????
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i hate archaludon and trick room and farigiraf and indeedee and whimsicott and contrary and
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>>59609013
he did it AGAIN
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>farig again
SON...
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>>59609012
Yeah salamance with FF and indeedee mystic fire means Golis is just dead. But the ttar means that Zard is just food for it.
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tfw pseudos are so strong you can just bring both megas and the one that doesn't mega can still play fine without an item
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whats the point of farig vs his team when even his sneasler doesnt have fakeout
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its over for golisopod winning
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>>59609028
consistently dying within 3 turns it seems
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>>59609028
He is over valuing speed control is what he's doing, he thinks he can't win making trades and needs to get a TR off. However this is wrong, he needs to understand he's just going to need to make trades.
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He should be leading grimsnarl and pod, and stop trying to weather war, and just kill ttar.
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This what an eternal pseudo looks like garsissies.
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4 giganiggas on screen right now, can barely see the stadium
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SAY HIS NAME
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God coaching is so fucking strong, but it makes me wonder is white herb really the best choice here? If he's going to end up coaching then trying to get off an attack before death - what's the point?
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>>59609041
Tyranitar, I fucking kneel!
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>>59609041
GEN 2 KING
OU CHAMPION

CAN'T KEEP HIM DOWN EVEN REMOVING PURSUIT
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>ttar + drill teams still winning regionals in 2026
greatest love story never told
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>>59609041
DARUDE
SAND STREAM
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>SAAAR THE MATCHUP SAAAR
jeet got so throughly RAPED turn 1 of g2 it was magnificent
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Ttar bros, we're so fucking back.
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>>59609041
>He's STILL got it
My knees....
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not having any fakeout users killed pod team
it has literally no way to stop sneedler from getting off at least one coaching if not two before dying
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bros how does this affect ttar's ranking on wolfe's list of the greatest dark type mons
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>>59609051
What do you do differently with the pieces available?
There is no safe lead, there is no success to be had.
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he could've done a lot with zard/poli offensive pressure or by not playing Pod like a SCARED BITCH but well he didn't
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Will we get their iv spreads? I want to know joe's
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>no rilla or incin in finals

soul
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>>59609054
Also not having redirection means Farigiraf can't set up Trick Room as long as Ttar was on the field.
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>>59609056
>pod farig
>if he kills farig, he takes at least 70% on ttar
>finish off ttar and deal with mence with poli in the back
he got his anus redeemed saar
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did archaludon use snarl even once?
not having flash cannon (or aura sphere) instead of that made the ttar matchup so much worse
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>>59609069
pod can't outpace ttar with sneedler standing there coaching it every turn until you kill it
and even if you do kill sneas mence immediately comes in to intimidate pod and force it off the field with fire
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>>59609041
>the GOAT 9 gens in the making
how does he do it
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>>59609070
He used it a few times in swiss and a crucial turn in one of the quarter finals games. The thing was until today you kind of didn't even need steel coverage even on golispod (I was running a slight variation of his team and dropped iron head for example). but TTar is going to be everywhere on the ladder so it's probably coming back
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>>59609066
Mence is that guy who got gold as a team, but barely did anything while Ttar pulled all the weight.
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>>59609084
The duo together gated zardy and mence was the clincher for pod and arch, he did a lot
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>>59609069
TTar sweeps in this situation
The problem is that this is a coaching Sneasler. You need the ability put pressure and threaten a kill on either TTar or Sneasler to get anywhere, because otherwise you're getting booted blasted by either TTar or Mence. Farig just offers nothing here, it can't meaningfully pressure sneasler and it's walled by TTar
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he should have drill runned sneasler turn 1
you can't stop coaching #1 but at least stop the ones after that

if sneed protects (if it even had protect, I don't remember) then ttar doesn't get enough strength to kill farig and you get trick room up
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some niggas here said sand was dead
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>>59609099
>sneasler dies
>mence comes in
does intimidated pod+farig have enough pressure to kill mence?
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>>59609109
Fuck, not at any speed where it won't two-shot both of them just by spamming Hyper Voice. I didn't watch the match, but it really just sounds like a pure match-up diff, unfortunately.
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is there any mega podbro could have had as an alternate that would have threatened both mence and ttar?

uhh ice punch swampert I guess?
maybe garde but it kinda goes even with tar
blastoise?
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adi had zero matchip into joe btw
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>>59609132
altaria
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>>59609105
God, Pokemon players are so fucking hideous.
No wonder Wolfe got so popular.
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>>59609144
damn you're kinda right I forgot it loses flying type
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>>59609132
[Spoiler] White Herb Sneasler to threaten CC OHKO on TTar and outspeed Salamance and threaten with Rock Slide [/spoiler]
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>>59609132
You kind of don't use mega to take down ttar, that's what politoed/peliper is for. SD variants also don't have much problem against TTar as you just leech life.

The issue with pod is having to play around fire coverage. Which often means you can't bring out Pod until it'ss your literal last mon.
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