Frankfurt editionPokémon Champions is a free to play online battle simulator available on Switch and mobile. It features ranked, casual and private battles for both singles and doubles, and will be used for VGC tournaments in 2026.>News- Joseph Ugarte has won the 2027 Baltimore Regional Championship- Global Challenge September 25th-28th- Frankfurt Regionals September 26th-27th- Brisbane Regionals September 26th-27th>Resources and useful linksCommunity Tournaments usage data: https://pikalytics.com/Ladder usage data: https://pokechamdb.com/enDamage Calculatorhttps://nerd-of-now.github.io/NCP-VGC-Damage-Calculator/New Player Guide(NEW PEOPLE READ THIS):https://rentry.org/pcg-guide (now taking suggestions and feedback)Quick FAQ>Do I need my own Pokémon to play?No, the game features a recruitment system, but transferring from Home is recommended to save time and resources.>What makes the game so much more accessible than before?All aspects of a Pokémon are customizable with VP, a currency earned simply by playing the game. IVs are also removed.Ask in the thread if you want any specific Pokémon, and someone will respond.>Is there single player content?No.>Do I need a Nintendo Online subscription?No.>What's the starter pack?US$6.99 one time purchase for 50 training tickets (fully train for free), 30 Teammate Tickets (recruit Pokemon without using VP), 50 extra box space and the LGPE trainer music. Only available on Switch for now.>Is anything locked behind a paywall?So far everything gameplay relevant is also purchasable with VP. Only E-Floette require ZA transfer.>/pcg/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread): https://pastebin.com/d2FJZdPhOld >>59619476
>>59622614How are we doing in the GC right now
>>59622618Decent.
free mythicals
Which Pokemon should I get the "the 100x Triumphant" title on before Bank shuts down?
>>59622627Actually kill yourself
>>59622618I'm just happy to reach 16
>mega revolution>mega revolving
>>59622635Don't tell me what to do, bitch.
I sure enjoy being stuck in Ultra ball yet again.
>>59622697i'm stuck in poke ball.......
who the fuck is angie
Was in 1300s hell like 5 days ago battling, now in MB3 only playing 2hrs most a day, I wonder how well my team will do next season now that it's started to click, feeling like my team last reg where I ruminate on the times I lost and know that there was a road to victory in nearly all matchups if I didn't make brain-dead bot clicks
Listening to hardstyle while playing makes me a better player
I can't take tierslop seriously, almost every pokemon that has a unique niche and the right synergy around it can be A tier and a megamence on the wrong team can be an F tier
Brisbane Day 2 is Livehttps://www.twitch.tv/oceaniavgc
Mold breaker is actually pretty neat on mega ampharos cause of niggas keeping raichu in base, poor emboar tho
>>59622764Okay, well teams can be tiered and the more teams and partners an individual mon enables, the better it isThere are lots of mons that have 1 role within a very specific composition while many more still just straight up need to be babysat to get anything done at all.Tiers are slop content, but they are good at showing which mons are an asset to a greater number of teams and which are basically useless.
>>59622773You're right, they base it on how well the mons can hold their own, I hate when they just put something that's at least a D in F in the same category as Arbok though
Damn, top cut is really hard to start in Australia. Them being upside down and all perhaps they're looking at the bottom cut?
>>59622764it is much easier to make a good mence team than a good audino team
>alakazam megas>trace opposing charizard's solar power>charizard megas>puts up sun>expanding force in psychic terrainI feel like I just committed a war crime.
>>59622614Game freak intentionally makes Psyspammers with e force weak defensively, especially if they have psychic surge. Delphox was given levitate intentionally lol. Even gamefreak hates psyspam
>>59622852On the pre champions server, they gave mega meowstic psychic surge. With the base female form having competitive, and it having earth power at the time via ZA, Meowstic + psy seed sneasler was impossible to lead into, they even changed it. They even gave mega dragonite soul heart.Never trust fans to be in charge of balancing
>>59622765Top Cut finally beginning
>>59622848I really hope they patch Trace to work on the pokemon directly in the other slot
welcome back M-B
>>59622852I have a psyspam duo but rarely bring it cause of how many rillabooms and wide guard users there are on peoples teams and I don't feel like playing terrain war bs, might keep DD in the back for fake out vortex crap more games from here and it can give gambit a free SD with Folow me
In case you forgot, Australia always uses wacky bullshit, which is why the rest of the VGC community doesn’t take them seriously lol. This stream match is a perfect example.
>>59622870Soak isn't that weird.It was way more impactful in Jap Nats.
>>59622870I live in Australia and I didn't know that, thought it was japanese who were the "creative" players but they're metasloopers as well when i face them, maybe my criminal genetics are drawn to lower tier mons taking down meta as if it's the gubmint trying to force us to take faulty vaccines
>>59622870last season rain team is a pretty tame thing to run
Is Abroliva a good tech against Psyspam?
>>59622879The Japs have single elimination, best of 1, closed team sheet tournaments.It's diabolical to put people through that kind of stress and the teams that are brought reflect the nature of their format.
>>59622892it's getting wrecked before it counters anything
>two paras in a row>crit on pokemon that didnt need a critits one of those nights
>>59622892Rillaboom is right there.
>face someone unironically running minimize overqwil bs in reg mc>they use memento on kingambit with their zoroark>get to +2>kingambit used Swords Dance to get to +4>they generously set up Trick room for me with their audino>soak overqwil>Kowtow KO's that stupid thingUsing that team frequently must cause brainrot to the point you need to relearn the game from scratch
>gengar/incin against gliscor/charizard>alright gonna be zard-y and the gliscors gonna eq, gottas play this smart ->its zard-x>the gliscor eq's, i protected my gengar though to play the pivot game>kills its own zard and i just snowball the matchglobal challenge is not real
do hard TR players just not have protect on anything?i tried to predict obvious protects like 3 turns in a row against one and they just absolutely refused to stop attacking
>>59622914hard tr players are either like 10 trillion iq youtube farmers or mongoloids. protect is a little devalued on tr imo though, because you REALLY want to run feint, or a greedy boosting move or something to benefit when the enemy protect stalls tr
>>59622914they probably got hard read one too many times
>>59622914>>59622917also there is so little reason to run protect on shit like farig, because i'd rather it die and get out my other sweeper before my limited timer is up
>>59622914I have it on kingambit so gourgeist can make it wall mega raptor/sneed next turn after setting TR and if boosted you can get some pretty good offensive pins when TR runs out
the ultimate team comp is a closed sheet tailwind team, with tr setter being something unexpected
>>59622926Whimsicott gets trick room kek
I've been surprised at how rare Double Edge is on mence
Okay next Global Challenge I just need to stick with my Golisopod Bo1 team, making the mistake thinking this was Bo3 killed me
>>59622928I mean I've always thought it would be hilarious to just run 0 investment speed/negative speed nature'd pokemon on a completely normal ass meta team, and have perma speed win. The only problem/think you have to play around, is you're throwing away 1 turn unless they're going for tailwind
>>59622933The mixed set just isn't it.Draco, Hyper Voice, and Flamethrower do largely what is needed.
how do you make competitive wigglytuff work
>non life orb armarouge
>>59622933not worth with the billion steels running aroundit was good when you needed good hits on the bigger restricted boys
>baton pass indeedee fThat's a way to get its fat non offensive pressure having ass off the field i suppose
>13-2 yesterday>0-8 todayDamn I almost thought I was good at this game for a minute
>>59622697>>59622703have you trieduhhhhlearning and trying to get better at the game, or are you just gonna continue to complain until you eventually drop it?
>>59622940>>59622946True, also intimidate cycling is everywhere, might as well use mega raptor rather than physical mence, main flaw with the special set is that Wide Guard is everywhere cause of psyspam
>>59622944most of them are sash
>>59622942tr debuff
why are people running rocky helmet on ddf? is it for some specific calc? colbur/psyseed/sitrus/sash/spoon all seem like they'd do just as good if not better
Did itBoy do I hate golisopod
>>59622982What in the actual fuck is this team? What are you trying to skillswap on wyderer?
>>59622986It's a team mainly built around countering meta threats. Wrydeer is there mainly for imprison and intimidate.
>>59622990Is intimidate not kinda slop in this meta? There are SO many threats that are special, competitive/defiant, etc.
>>59622981follow me synergizes well with helmete.g. forcing sash-holding physical attackers to hit it and break sash
>>59623001Ohhhh, sash is actually not a bad idea, who is that specifically targetting? Excadrill? I hadn't thought that deep and just thought about extra chip on follow me targets.
>>59623003h-arcanine is one of the big ones right now
>>59622996Intimidate is still really good. Maybe not on Wyrdeer, but making common mons like Rilla and Incineroar deal less damage is always nice.
>>59622996During my entire climb I faced exactly one competitive milotic for what it's worth. It still shut down a lot of leads for me.
>>59622982>Samurott>not Hisuiouch. mixed attacker? her hidden ability is doo doo when compared to H-Samurott.
Charizard? A fraud The ZA starters? Even bigger frauds Floette? A world champion
>>59623014i'm 1600 and see them A LOT
Brisbane finals are on right now.
Any tips for ranked singles?Guys?
>>59623018He's not mixed, he's full sp.atk. He's my salamence and Garchomp (unless he Mega Zs) dealer since he's bulky enough to take anything that isn't super effective and instantly one shot with ice beam. He's also my grass knot user if I know they're gonna lead with a rain team swampert.
>>59623024wait a minute, this is M-B(+rilla)
>>59623037I have genuinely never played BSS.No idea what it's like or how to help, sorry.
>>59622622it surprises me that we have anons that are actually good at the game in here. /vp/ is notorious for being bad at vgc lol
Mega Garchomp = coached
>>59623045we have worlds qualifiers and people who day 2 post here, no reason for them to dox themselves though.
>>59623045vp's knowledge of comp is largely just omgon randbats and low elo OU
>>59623045well this is the de facto vgc general for this board, its not shocking we attract some good players here
>>59623045i am currently top 70 in NA, i only came back to this boards after not posting for years to post in this general. i dont dare venture outside of this geneal. i used to browse/post here everyday back in like 2020/2021 when i was in high school lol. ive basically grown out of this place unfortunately. im thankful for this general
>>59622996ive seen maybe one milotic, kingambits kind of a pain but you just play smart
>>59623037bring sash mamo
Jude choked hard, should've drained archs health when it was at 50 or killed it earlier as charizards weather ball wasn't doing too much, probably would've still lost to venasaur landing a SP regardless
>>59623091Tunnel vision is very real, was a tough end game though because if venu comes in while sun is up then it's just over.I guess you'd have to KO Arch with 2 turns of sun left, then protect with just 1 left, then pray that dazzling gleam spam is enough. I don't remember what the board state looked like with 2/5 sun left though.
What was the point of this thing?
>my dragapult outspeeds absol zwhat are people running on the z megas
>>59623110In reg MA you would try to get opposing Charizard Y to 1hko you so you KO it.Bold strategy, not a good one.
>>59623111A bunch of bulk so they can maybe last 2 turns, 1 to setup, and the next to maybe do something. They don't do enough damage to actually KO anything otherwise.
when are they adding the 60fps option
>>59623156Do Switch 2 players still have to dock and undock it to get the right resolution? If yes then they're never fixing it.
ZardRain is winning Brisbane.
>>59623166Nah they fixed that a bit ago
>>59623037Primarina everywhereHippowdon is a fat cuntMoody strats are gay as fuckPod's great tho
>fire punch ttarcertified closed teamsheet moment
>>59623215ive lost to both earthquake incin and close combat incin
Frankfurt Regionals Day 2 is in 1 hour here:https://www.youtube.com/live/ToSg0Ekkbs0Here are the standings, complete with teams:https://www.pokedata.ovh/standingsVGC/0000194/masters/
i keep getting mogged by steel roller metagross teams and i can't figure out the answer
Could someone please send me a dupe of yet another 4mss support mon?
>>59623245Forgot pic fug
Normal gem feint/fake out sneasler.
>>59623259le psyshic terrain face
>>59623262Delayed drop monke.
>>59623223Become a trick room timmy and spam eruption with Torkoal, have a taunt user or kingkongambit for douchebags who try to imprison you with indeedee and farig
>Garchomp Z is a Regional winnerAPOLOGIZEPOLOGIZE
>>59623040always was
>>59623263I realized this is why Indeedee is so effective at setting up trick room.>people fear expanding force spam>lead with Rillaboom and get terrain cucked>switch in Rillaboom and it safely gets trick room
>>59623298Did the Chomp come to the finals?
>>59623221>>59623221>>59623221Stream is live.
Why even start the stream so early if they're not actually going to show a game until an hour later
>>59622622team? watching Frankfurt made me rekindle my interest. being an European I could drop in one of these just to try the experience
>overmiss
>heat miss
>helping handwhat did he mean by thisin what universe does rilla not fake you out there
>>59623498The Ninetales was at -2 and could have switched
>moonblastlol he thought bird was gonna mega
I know tim has a better record than I ever had, but why did he protect in that situation?Can someone explain? >>59623498Yeah. For a moment, I even thought that I forget that he had that move. Super weird.
this team won brisbane regionals. Kiran Singh has won.
>>59623547A normal Mega Chomp made it Top 4 too.Ironically enough, a Z Chomp team kicked it out.Would have been funny if Mega Chomp had won a Regional first before Z Chomp.
>>59623547zardCHADs, they disprected us for to long
>>59623547i still don't quite intuitively understand why sunrain works
Brutal loss streak for me today. Confidence crushed.
>>59623557Me neither.The rainsnow nips were meming with a while ago also completely eluded me.
did they skip the Japanese player's interview? shamefuru
>shaggy the player is rusing mega raltaria!
>mega meowstic vs mega altaria
>doesn't flinch, doesn't para, and gets a crit that could have possibly matteredjust be lucky lol
Niggerboom survived a ZardY heat wave, I can't even
>remove salamence and pod from my team>start winning againIm gonna make them work someday...
I just hope they add more items soon
These Europeans are playing their hearts out on some bullshit like M Glimmora and M Meowstic only to be inevitably stomped out by jap and amerilards running the real shit like Dragonite and Floette and Salamence
>>59623667it's just a meta exploration phase, it's only normal to see weirder pics. or do you want every match to be a mirror?
Any Garde teams that saw a showcase this event?I dropped Armarouge for Garchomp to check bitch ass H-Arcanine.
>>59623655Salamence's biggest success in Ladder is Mixed-Mence with Double Edge, Hyper Voice, Protect and Tailwind. The reason it doesn't work in open team sheet is because they'll just focus on Intimidating it so the Double Edge can't do shit.
>>59623674Right now some mega autist Japanese guy is repeatedly queueing his tier 1 Salamence/Floette/Whatever team over and over learning every single in and out of it becoming sharpened like a fine katana, this is why glorious nippon will battle for victory in the world championships again. Those dudes literally never stop doing their one thing. What a cursed life. Or, from another perspective, one must imagine Sisyphus happy
damn -1 mega ttar rock slides are doing basically nothingintimidate sure is a thing
I've faced nothing but these sand slop teams. Tyranitar, Excadrill, Salamence every time.
>>59623690Isn't this why he's now paired with Coaching Sneed?
>Start doing well in GC (low 1600s)>Get matched with 3 moonrunes in a row>Get them all down to their final Pokemon>Connection gets stuck in a loop and boots me back to login screen>”The connection of your recent game was interrupted. The results of your last match were not recorded”.Once I would have accepted but three times in a row is no fucking accident.
>>59623687Worlds winning team had Dnite which nobody honestly saw coming, I don't see your point
>>59623697Chinks cheat.No matter the game.
>>59623699how can you do that? if so there would be people with perfect winrate
Left is just reading right to death
>>59623698M Dragonite is awesome on paper wdym
Have (You) ever gone to a tournament?
>>59623699japanese aren't chinks
>>59623704shut the fuck up, many Megas are good in paper but its usage was abysmal
>>59623699Pretty sure these were nips or Koreans given my timezone. Moonrunes all look the same to me.
>>59623707You're retarded then because that thing was common as shit. You'd see M Dnite on ladder literally all the time, especially 1600+. You don't see M Meowstic a single fuckin time or M Altaria
>>59623705Went 8-1 at a regional in 2015 using a team of Megagross, Rotom Mow, Talonflame, Suicune, Terrakion and Clefairy. Top cut was the next day but got uni exam and essay dates mixed up (exam was day of top-cut) so I had to bow out.
>>59623713stop fucking lying you rat, Pikalytics places it at 20th most common mega
Damn, so many italians got eliminated in the past 2 rounds
>>59623223Ice Roller Mega Starmie to break terrain first and cuck Gross
>>59623738starmie? in this grassy glide and intimidate spam economy?
rilla has like 80% usage day 2 or what
>>59623742upper hand partner and you rape everything
>>59623729You are saying you see M Meowstic and M Altaria as much as you saw M Dnite? Because I have seen them a grand total of 0 times, you faggot retard
when does gc end
About 16-ish hours.
Why didn't he just double protect?
>>59623793gambit doesn't have protectbut why he just let pod take the heat wave i have no idea
>>59623793sash gambit doesnt run protect
Yeah it's over alreadyHe has no good answer into Volcarona except Pelipper which just died
So now there's 50 more minutes of yapping about what we just saw isn't there? I don't know if I can stay up any longer.
whos ready to face ths on ladder every single match!!!
>>59623850zomp doubters in shambles
>shiny female sylveoni know a gooner when i see one. same niggas with the female shiny garden and the female delphoxs
>>59623858thats like basic gender matching shinies. real gooners go far furthert. real one
>>59623858>gardengarde
>>59623858i when i use delphox, gardevior, sylveon, primarina, or any feminine pokemon, they must be female. i will go out of my way to catch / breed for those
>>59623858I have a shiny female Sylveon and a normal male Sylveon. I feel it's more fitting this way.>>59623870Same, it's so weird to see a male Primarina.
>>59623045To be fair, this is the only place I can discuss almost anything while not being super coddling and nice, plus nobody here is super autistic about genned shinies.
damn, zomp took the mid allegations personally
>>59623875>nobody here is super autistic about genned shinies.baffles me how some people still are because theres no need to gen shit in champions. if youve been playing since the game came out, you should have everything you need via the ranch now + a couple shines to spare. i got a shiny gambit in a dive ball thats my go to lol
>>59623887people just fell for the draco meteor spam meme and wondered why getting it to do anything was hard
>>59623890I figured it was easier to keep them in Home and transfer to Champions as I needed them. Now that there are no IVs and every mon is easy to get, I don't see why some people hate gens so much. Like, the judges over here check Home for local tournaments with no more than 20 people, it's actually crazy.
>walls raichu y>outspeeds modest zomp and OHKOs with dragon pulse>outspeeds mence and OKHOs with dragon pulseim keeping an eye on it32 SpA Mega Sceptile Dragon Pulse vs. 2 HP / 0 SpD Mega Salamence: 170-204 (98.8 - 118.6%) -- 93.75% chance to OHKO32 SpA Mega Sceptile Dragon Pulse vs. 2 HP / 0 SpD Mega Garchomp Z: 182-216 (98.3 - 116.7%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO32 SpA Mega Sceptile Earth Power vs. 32 HP / 0 SpD Mega Raichu Y: 136-160 (81.4 - 95.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
holy mog from agati
>>59623896>focus blast
>>59623896>gets raped by sneasler
why does this look so barren compared to NA regionals?
>>59623902he's really hot
>>59623900doesnt OHKO, sceptile gets two earth powers off and KOs it>>59623901sceptile outspeeds this, and would have support to help deal with it anyways.
>>59623896>clicks ice shard on mega baxnow what fuck boi?
>>59623906sceptile does not outspeed seedler and doesnt ohko with +1 spdef
>>59623902heres a photo i took at Baltimore, it looks barren because the space isnt being used. day 1 is always super crowed. baltimore was bigger then this venue btw and it was still packed.indy was a shit show, it was the first champions major, and they allowed to many people as a result and in order to get to your table, you were basically rubbing on other people to walk. also someone unlugged the wifi router to plug their vape in which caused a 3 hour delay, on top of more DC issues
>>59623908sceptile speed 145sneasler speed 120just talking about the base forms lil bro
Sceptile is a meme that just doesn't work. You bring Sceptile for just dragon types and then he gets raped by literally everything else.
I like the game and would like to compete as a hobby but I get too fucking angry. Being an incel IS a disability I should be awarded a monthly stipend for that
>>59623893>the judges over here check Home for local tournamentsWhy? If the Pokemon was genuinely illegal it wouldn’t be allowed in Home to begin with and they cannot prove you didn’t get it/them legitimately.
>>59623896This thing having Lightning Rod as its ability is still retarded to this day. What does that have to do with it shooting its tail at enemies, and why doesn’t it have a signature move that does exactly that? If they’re serious about wanting this to be a LSG, they need to be comfortable changing Pokémon’s stats and abilities not just their moves.
>>59623918I think it's because there was one player who was disqualified at a regional for having a box full of Ogerpon with the same TID, which isn't even technically illegal.But I'm not sure if they know what they're actually doing, the local judge said that any Floette with the TID 000001 is obviously fake and or cloned.
gengar... perished
nice perish song nerd
>>59623929I beat a perish team today. Felt good
Raifort's Gholdengo is good taste
>>59623933same, in the GC. they didnt know my chomp was scarf, the other dropped to a hard read psychic onto gengar t1. called it to get cheeky and not protect, ill punish that
Why all those guys using female avatars? That's so weird.
>>59623943my avatar looks just like me, its the male.. some people just pick the female ones for customize or because they like them better?
>>59623943spiritually trannies, every respectable player has a guy if you notice
>>59623943The guys in this game look like faggots or young boys, plus girls have more choices. Every respectable man uses a female avatar.
>>59623937Likewise. Mega was Froslass paired with Kingambit, Milotic and Pawmot. Idiot kept using Parting Shot with Incin into Kingambit and Milotic which combined with Intimidate just made it easier to weaken the rest of his team.
>>59623950if you take more than 2 minutes to customise your avatar you are gay
>>59623954My dragon tsundere is very cute, alright?
>>59623937yea you always target gengar t1 just to keep it honest. force them into the standard perish lines and play accordingly
I take back everything I said about the Gholdengo nerfs. It was only bad last regulation because Charizard and Kingambit were everywhere.
damn these goldengos just wreck the shit out of these perish teams
>>59623923Is that not AZ's ID...?
>>59623987It is! The judge literally didn't know and had to be corrected in the chat.
>>59623966Maybe if he lead with Gengar instead of Vivillon
At least now that it's the final rounds and each match is being streamed there's less filler between each match
zomp beated the fraud watch
OkayChink TR Slop vs SOUL
The forfeit mid turn will always be funny to me.
Dude was praying
>>59624000Not really, it might have needed the crit to ohko the charizard.
>get zard gaped by zomp twicewhat was the plan
>>59624021Nevermind, Shillzard wasn't that bulky
>>59624021zards are mostly phys bulky
Bro didn’t even knock out a Pokémon the entire set
>>59624003SOVL lost
Going 12-2 is a great result. But getting raped this hard in your final match must suck so hard
>oneshot by KWABchomp zOh no no no zard y bros we got too cocky is our time in the sun over?
A loooooot of Incine-Rilla teams in europe in comparison to NA. I wonder why that is
>"maybe the power gem crit mattered">loses again instantly
>>59624043euros stick to stable strats in any game
Was it a roll on the zard? I don’t understand not protecting it both games, even if you try to catch your opponent being cheeky
>>59624043EU is notorious for playing balance, no matter the format.
>>59624057zard would need max hp spdef to guarantee 2hkoI guess he was just betting on protect mind games for whatever reason, don't even think it would do much to zomp
>>59624057I'm not sure he was confident in it tanking but desu I don't think he even calc'd it for Zarchomp specifically given it's rise is happening VERY quickly. He probably just assumed "oh, well maybe I tank if not for the crit and my opponent assumed so too, so I can play around with that in Game 2 for some mindgames" only for Yzard's head to get blown off regardless of a crit or not
thank you genies
https://youtu.be/_hzssKb9940?si=GBRN-skcCL1BdowI
UndefeatGOD
>>59624067There isn't an existing Zard set that survives Power Gem from GarchompZ or Gholdengo for that matter. I learned from experience and then did the calcs.
Edenbros...
Zomp just won two majors in one weekend.
Are euros so bad Garchomp Z can go undefeated? How many world championships have they won? I thought they were on par or better than NA.
Kneel.NOW
ZChompCHAD
>>59624134
>>59624141Holy kek alright looks like this is a D2 or D3 tournament no wonder Meowstic and Zomp are popping off
>>59624134It’s Japan, America, then Italy in terms of best VGC country. In that order
>>59624134>>59624143What kind of tourist shit is this
I noticed these European players rarely change their leads even if it doesn't work the first time
>>59624147I came to your game a month ago and I already outrank you in it
>>59624149You'll notice that across a lot of VGC players, they've played enough of a particular match up to know that the leads they chose had the best chance in a potentially bad matchup.
>>59624149Most top players use standard lines, and don’t deviate from them often
So what happened Salamence trvsters?
“I have the pressure of fake out nasty”
>>59624154>>59624152Really do not want to hear game insights from European players so unless you guys provide proof of American, Italian, or Japanese citizenship I request you stop raping me like this
>>59624156Unsurprisingly, the rise of a faster Pokemon that can comfortably oneshot it and isn't susceptible to Intimidate is not great news
>>59624156Zomp is hard to deal with for mence, especially when it’s paired with yaichu
>>59624160I didn't write this
>>59624156Salamence won the regional that had good players in it (BLVCK BVLL AMVRICVNS)
>>59624160I’m American. Here’s my hs yearbook from10th grade
>>59624160Have you considered fucking killing yourself?
>>59624166Are you mentally ill enough that you felt compelled to engage in verification on an anonymous forum?
>>59624168Classic European banter, I am into you but it is too bad your people aren't into winning at Pokemon. You can't hate me for only wanting to take advice from humans
>>59623110chlorophyll mixed sweeper with growth or i'm taking you with me.
Imagine losing the final after going 16-0
>>59624166Respect bro, I will listen to your polemon advice now
no wolfe not a real tournament
>>59624161>>59624162>>59624165That's some cool excuses, but the 26 NAIC winner couldn't pull your ass over the line.What happened in Brisbane?
>>59624184It's a European tournament dude, it doesn't matter. Some guy was running M Meowstic and making it work in this shitshow. The semi finals saw a Zard Y confidently leaving himself out in front of a Zomp turn one in both games into immediate loss. Idk what to tell you bro, these are little leaguers
>>59623223why are you not bringing mons with heat wave/flamethrower/fire blast?
>>59624156Europe and NA have different metasEU spams the bara bros balance shell while NA had a lot of Indeedee M + Sneedler. Salamance is probably having a hard time finding it's footing in EU because of the prevalance of fake out pressure along with threats like Raichu and Chomp, while in NA Salamance was getting a lot of value as a sweeper threat in HO shells. If there wwre more indeedee teams to punish Rilla + Incine things might look different
>>59624191Unfiltered cope, it's beautiful.Fun Fact: Garchomp Z didn't even come to the Brisbane finals, Mence and Floette lost to the Zard/Rain mode.
>>59624196That's cool but here's the second fun fact: probably none of these players are escaping pools at worlds, and statistically none of their countrymen ever have
>>59624195Ttar carried Mence's fatass across the line in Baltimore. Salamence had a negative conversion rate and usage in day 2.
>>59624201Where did Eric Rios place at NAIC in 2026?Why didn't any americans make finals?How about at worlds? Where were these top tier US players in finals?
No need to be fussy.Just apologize.
>>59624214Never, fraudchomp will be exposed.
>>59624214I'M SO SORRY THAT I'M SUCH SHITTER
>>59624208Here's the better question than all ghat: name one European (not from Italy) that has won worlds Then, name the 6 americans
>>59624214Imagine if she still had nasty plot...
>>59624224Eduardo Cunha
>>59624226gamefreak was afraid
>>59624227How could I have forgotten the obvious European state of Portugal
>>59624224There's only 3 americans who have won worlds. 3 if those were Rizzo at a time when VGC was tiny and tournaments barely saw 100 entrants.>no italiansPure cope.
>>59624235Rizzo is Italian as well, judging by his surname.
>all ZA megas in finalsYea the OG XY megas have been powercrept, even MOST of the oras ones. I mean…. the only usable megas I see now are T Tar , Mence and metagross, which is niche now lol
>>59624235I was counting all three tiers (junior, senior and master) but sure we can move Europeans down to 0 wins if you want bro
>>59624236This, don't see any Sitting Bisons there so basically 0 Americans have won it. Tons of european names there tho.
>>59624242We're only doing masters.Kids don't matter unless you really like Oranguru.
>>59624250Sounds like you got 3-0'd then lol
>>59624241Metagross basically had the worst conversion rate of any mega entered.There were 16 metagross in day 1 and only 1 made it to day 2.Data is your friend.
>>59624241It's so fucking funny reading this when the biggest complaint about the ZA Megas after Champions launched was "durrr ILCA keeps making them shit where are all the crazy abilities!!!1!!"
Damn Torkoal is well positioned
>>59624257The current relevant ZA megas are literally blatant DLC powercreep except for Staraptor it's understandable
Why is there no sp atk intimidate
>>59624261>DLC powercreepThat really doesn't apply here when 1: they're not DLC in this game and 2: two of the current most relevant ones were considered dookie dogshit upon first releasing and only had their strengths picked up on due to meta conditions (Raichu Y and Chomp Z)
>this doofus has an auto kill on chomp if he switches torkoal out for farig and rips hyper voice >decides to choose the statistically worse move in every way and expose his torkoal instead EURO TOURNAMENT HOURS
>>59624247Rizzo Italian surnameGiovanni Italian nameJust saying
>>59624262Same reason there isn't a status effect that doesn't cut special in half. GF hates physical.
The way Zomp just floats there is so dumb
Surely swapping Torkoal for Farigiraf and clicking Hyper Voice with Sylveon won the game on the spot? Why would you leave Torkoal exposed like that
farig is really not worth bringing in this reg
let him cook
>>59624271He predicted a protect from garchomp and flare blitz into either of the slots
>>59624275Having anti-priority that isn't subject to terrain is extremely valuable in a balance heavy meta.
>>59624275It is when there are so many fake outs around
>>59624265most of the base game ZA megas were dogshit even in their own game yeah it's relevantI don't really remember ychu being talked down that much past day 1, it just wasn't used much because of big dix
>>59624270I wish Champions brought back "Flying mons also have a grounded set of animations they can use" from SV and Z-A and then let you set a toggle for which set you want to use in the Box screen.
Normal chomp looks way better than shiny
>>59624286They should just make flying and levitating mons take flight whenever a ground type move is used.
>>59624285>most of the base game ZA megas were dogshit even in their own gameMost Megas are dogshit period. Z-A still had plenty of viable basegame megas that were prominent meta threats at different points like Excadrill, Skarmory, Clef, Froslass, and Delphox.
That's game
Oh it's over
Double protect was completely safe here
Shame. He went too close to the sun. Greediest man alive.
I've noticed this tournament is filled with the greediest, least honest playstyles imaginable
>>59624311This, we need honest playstyles like heavy slam Wailord.
What in the actual fuck
KWAB
Its so fucking over
Draco meteor and he wins the throphy
>helping hand flamethrower into gholdengo does not killFraud checked. This is just two retards battling in a retard pit (the Garchomp Zs, not the players)
Greedy ass play and got punished for it
I don't want to keep beating on this, but it also weirds me out how weak a 141 sp. atk mon actually is. Like, it couldn't ohko a Gholdengo with helping hand flamethrower. It shows how important multipliers are in modern pokemon, instead of raw stats and bp
Did he NEED to kill ghol there so it didn't get out of control or was that a misplay
>CHADengo still got it
ggs. eric knows hes won
>>59624327my fuarking hero
>>59624327NERF HIM AGAIN
Why the HELL would you go for Ghold there, You run double fire type + flame thrower chomp, your entire team owns Ghold. Chomp is the only threat. Was he trying to predict protect?
>>59624214Fraud psudo, fraud mega, and fraud finals.
>>59624331>Was he trying to predict protect?Obviously that's what he thought
>>59624331Even if he was, just use trick room.
32+ SpA Garchomp-Mega-Z Flamethrower vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Gholdengo: 130-154 (80.2 - 95%) -- guaranteed 2HKOhow much spd did gholdengo have to survive hh? idk how to use it on the calc
>>59624324It's VGC the Gholdengo likely had hyper minmaxed EVs specifically to survive an edge case like that
THE CHINK LOSTRevenge for the meowstic!Love to see it
>>59624335Yeah people are ragging on Zarchomp for missing that KO but that Ghold had to be ungodly bulky to survive that. It was probably spec'd to live a Bulky Yzard Heat Wave in Sun.
Zomp is a fucking fraud and will be curbstomped by players from real regions
>>59624341You are cying and shitting your pants.
>>59624333But even in the worst case scenario of Chomp protecting, Gholdengo doesn't actually threaten much and you can set up trick room, which is your only wincondition if opposing Chomp is still alive. Trying to KO Ghold there gets you nothing, even if it OHKOd you're down a chomp and there's no trick room up and you probably lose to Incine amd Volcarona end game
Calcs say it's a really bulky goldingus, they were ready
>>596226142027 Frankfurt Regional Top 8
>>59624340Yeah, yzard has more sp. atk but heat wave is spread, so it should be about the same as a Zchomp flame thrower.
>>59624343You lost to string cheese, fraudchump.
>>59624351>no salamence in top 8
>>59624340>in sunI think you can make it a roll, but it requires full SpDef investment and almost full HP.
>>59624357literally every team there is anti mence balance
>>59624357Truly embarrassing. 2 Fraudizards made it in and yet not a single Sissymence.
It was the Farfetchd Ch'Ding meme but done in a tournament to over 5000 people. Hahaha. KWABChomp does it again
>>59624360>it's just all this mence hatred!>i believe in ol' Sally!
>>59624335Frankly, italmost looks like cheating. He basically rolled minimum damage.
>>59624357and? we still on baltimore. only NA regionals matter
I genuinely can't believe the Zard Toxapex team put in a result. I though that archetype was dead.
>>59624335rios was bulky. all modest dengos are super bulky.
>>59624371max coper
>>59624377mence is winning louisville, and youll be sorry
steel beams will win next round
I'll believe in Garchomp Z if it wins vs an American or Japanese or Italian player but that's it. Everything else doesn't count, sorry Sven
>>59624375I think it was probably Timid so it outsped some key threats while investing heavily in HP and SpDef.The number of times Eric felt compelled to nasty plot indicates to me he wasn't super confident in it's damage output without setup.
>>59624275It shuts down Fake Out games from Incin + Rilla cores. Not to mention if it has Sylveon there, it can pretty much nuke both for free.
>Sneasler just won me a 1v4 in GC by itselfI lead it with Garchomp, and then switched out the Chomp to Indeedee to then rape the enemy Volcarona and RaichuY with Rock SlideIt was a bit sloppy, but honestly the fact the fluffy moth got a Quiver Dance off meant that I was most likely going to lose if I didn't just commit to the Rock Slide Turn 1.The retard exposed that he was running Scarf Basculegion at the end because he tried to Last Respects twice into the SNEED. Like who the fuck designed this weasel?
sorry gatr bwo. you found the one dumbass with rash Chomp and five points in special attack. she wasn't surviving a draco I'm afraid.
>>59624368Correct, come ICs and you will regret your words and deeds
Eric: 17-0ZAAAMMMM
I still dislike Z chomp because the design doesn't change much and mixed attackers and levitate is a super lame ability and should at least have been wind rider.It's all about themes and its are lame.
When Landorus comes, ZChomp will be even better.
>>59624565It's biggest enemy who always made it utterly irrelevant will now become it's greatest partner.
>>59624557you're right. Zomp should get zero to hero that's also a moxie boost instead.
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