>crocodiles and tropic jungle in fucking RussiaThis game is absolutely retarded.
So, how's the remake? Is it faithful to the original? I heard it runs like absolute garbage even on a graphics processing beast like the 5090.
I don't need to hear from retarded zoomers who only play old games if they've just received a remake. Get lost.>>>/v/
>>11987254Why are you so mean to Anon? He just asked a question politely. Can’t you just not be a douche?
>>11987243of all the weird stuff you could complain about you chose that?
>>11987243Boy, wait until you find out about people with super powers...
>>11987243It's not in Russia, it's in the Soviet Union.
>>11987281Oh pardon me, I didn't know that the Soviet Union stretched all the way down to South-East Asia. Damn, those Soviets.
>>11987243Russia is the setting because it makes sense for the cold war era story. The jungle portions are incongruous but it works for gameplay purposes.Basically they made the levels what they wanted them to be without worrying too much about being context-appropriate and figured most people wouldn't be so concerned with the regional ecology being hyperaccurate. And they weren't. I'm sure it seems laughable to actual Russians but they're a tertiary market at best
>>11987295Yes, it' fine, I was just baiting. Most people were probably aware that nations like Mongolia and Kazakstan aren't frozen icelands, so it's not super-retarded. It could be a tiny rare jungle at the very south of Mongolia or something. It didn't really bothered me that much.
>>11987295Except the game dedicates more than a hour of dialogues to explain why it's a jungle and why there are tropical animals in Russia.
>>11987243It's inspired by American spy movies from the 60s-80s that did dumb shit like this all the time
>>11987295>>11987302>It could be a tiny rare jungle at the very south of Mongolia or somethingGroznyj is a real city, it's the capital of Chechnya
>>11987310What the hell are you talking about? The game never says where it is.
>>11987304The game dedicates dialogue to everything. Snake has a five-minute monologue about how awesome his custom handgun is. Para-medic provides infodumps about every animal in the gae. You have conversations with Sigint about cardboard boxes. It's just detail for the sake of immersion and for the lulz. You're not supposed to take it as scientific fact, even if some of it is semi-factual
>>11987286Your map only shows tropical rainforests, dumbass.
>>11987310Groznyj Grad however was not meant to be Groznyj, same as Zanzibarland was not in Zanzibar or even Africa in general
>>11987315Yeah but I'm from Russia so I've always automatically assumed it's supposed to take place there, they probably shouldn't have named one of the locations after a real place if they wanted it to be ambiguous
>muh heckin realism Kill all zoomers
>>11987328I actually completely forgot where it's supposed to be, thought it was South America (like in PO and PW) but apparently it's in Central Asia
>>11987302My personal interpretation is that the game takes place somewhere in Tajikistan, except one introduction cutscene fucks up and zooms in on Western Siberia to point to the location.
>>11987334You aren't Russian, you are just retarded.>In Russian, "Grozny" means "fearsome", "menacing", or "redoubtable", the same word as in Ivan Grozny (Ivan the Terrible).Has nothing to do with Chechnya.
>>11987343It's really just a case of Kojima reusing names of real-life places that sound cool or appropriate to him for the setting
>>11987254>nooo you can't talk about old game that you played for the first time via a nearly 1 to 1 remake!!!
>>11987347Why are you like this?
>>11987295I mean, the Caspian Sea part of Iran is a fertile, forested area with a humid climate, and north India has snowy mountain ranges that rival the beauty of Mount Kilimanjaro or the Alps. Yet whenever people hear about these countries they usually assume Iran is just some rugged desert and India is mostly tropical jungles and elephants.
>>11987358Exactly. You just played a fucking remake. You're not qualified to talk about the original.
>fucking russiathe game's definitely unrealistic but at no point is it implied that the game takes place in northern european russia proper. the game obviously is based on central Asian soviet territories. for the purposes of a videogame a mashed up Forrest/jungle environment in central asia isn't that crazy.
>>11987362Relax dude, it's just banter. We all have acted retarded at some point.
>>11987262OP didn't even ask a question bot-bro
All Kojima had to do is to incorporate Cuba or Vietnam into the story. They were in soviet sphere of influence after all.
>>11987391Where there actually Soviet bases in these countries? Can some hisfag clarify?
>>11987302I still subconsciously think of Kazakhstan as part of Russia, given the massive cultural, linguistic, and demographic fuckup the nomadic people have endured since Soviet times.
>>11987397They are trying to distance themselves because Russia acted retarded with their Ukraine invasion
>>11987404Remember how in January 2022 the Kazakhstani government requested Russian military aid through their millitary alliance to crush protesters across the country? I miss when that was the most dramatic event that year.
>>11987310Now you made me picture Naked Snake sneaking around up in Chechnya somewhere because he accidentally mistook Grozny for Grozny Grad.>Hrrrngh, Major, there's no alligators here.
>>11987302Central Asia is mostly desert and dry steppe, too cold and too dry for any kind of jungle.
How about an alternate reality where the Soviets ended up with a stretch of tropic land that they managed to take from the Chinese during the Sino-Soviet Split?
>>11987416I don’t want to turn this thread into a political discussion, but I hate how some try to downplay the Russian Empire’s atrocities in its former vassal states.I got in a debate pointing out the horrible things the Soviets did to Armenians and Central Asians. His response boiled down to, “Who gives a shit what happens to Caucasus Jews or churkas lol.” That’s how blinded by ideological loyalty they are.
>>11987396Does it matter? Everything is supposed to be top secret and completely unknown to even the governments at times. If there's no basis for that then there's no basis for bipedal tanks that can launch nukes either.
>>11987243If you think that's retarded you should actually pay attention to the story. Here they're setting up a major antagonist by showing him impersonating a cat.
>>11987436a decent portion of the forest sections in mgs3 aren't that crazy, like the valley where you fight the end
>>11987448They also deported tons of peaceful Germans from the Caucasus which led to most of them dying. The ones who settled there in the 18-19th centuries, the Soviets more or less just genocided them
>>11987441>alternate realityMGS is real life
>>11987462It's weird how a finished the game as a teenager and nothing of that seemed crazy to me. I adored MGS1-3. I'm not sure if this is a comliment to Kojima though, because teens are retarded.
>>11987531i loved metal gear at the time but even i cringed at that fucking meow
>>11987531By the time MGS3 came around anime was far more prevalent in amercian culture and if you'd been exposed to any of that MGS's weirdness wasn't that weird by comparison
>>11987462I feel that it sets a tone that you're not supposed to take the game too seriously.
>>11987618absolutely no one was watching anime in 2004 in america. the word anime didnt even exist yet. it was called japanimation
>>11987640>you're not supposed to take the game too seriouslytell that to all the mentally ill millenials who cry during these games on youtube
>>11987648We were, you were just living under a rock at the time. I used to stay up later than I should have watching Adult Swim's anime bloc. FLCL was airing in 2003.
>>11987648https://animecons.com/events/info/185/anime-expo-2004
>>11987648>absolutely no one was watching anime in 2004 in america.Unironically kill yourself zoomertard.>>11987738>living under a rock at the timeYou're being charitable, he's unironic zoomer faggot born after 2004 that watches youtube video essays about old anime. By 2004, even normalfags were aware of anime by way of DBZ and Pokemon. Miyazaki won an Oscar for Spirited Away the previous year.
>>11987531That's why I like the games, they're so retarded or batshit insane I'm constantly surprised and amused. That's what I don't get about the hate for the 4th one, it was always that fucking stupid and cutscene heavy but now we have Blu rays so you can fit even more cutscenes in there.
>>11987640Yeah, it's a satire on cold war film settings back in the 60s and 70s. The Boss' unit is a prime example of this exaggeration. Probably just Kojima "lecturing" his younger peers into what drove his creativity in designing videogames since the game's meta message is more internal than his previous titles (and goes back to the troublesome development of this game in early stages). Ultimately Kojima wanted a fresh generation of developers to make the sequels to the series rather than him being the person who would continue to spearhead it into the future.
>>119878012 and to a lesser extent 3 had new interesting stuff going on. the AI 9/11 conspiracy portion of mgs2 was a legitimately intriguing scenario for videogame. as offputting as a gay vampire making tongue noises in your direction was you'd get rewarded soon after by some cool twist. mgs4 takes one of the weaker elements of 2, liquid's gesticulating through ocelot, and makes it the entire focus of the game.
>>11987648Shut the fuck up, retard.>>11987391I'll admit it's been a long while now, but didn't the game take place after the Cuban Missile Crisis? That whole thing de-escalated reasonably well, and it feels unlikely that a rogue faction in Soviet Russia would easily get away with trying to set up shop in Cuba again for some shenanigans, much less being able to either move the Shagohod there, or be able to develop it in peace and quiet without the U.S, which would probably still be watching, not noticing.Venezuela maybe, but not Cuba. You could change the story to be an alternate missile crisis, but part of the game's story hinges on a level of goodwill between top U.S and U.S.S.R. leadership and some co-operation.>>11987653Who the fuck asked about you lying awake at night thinking about YouTubers, you moaning bitch? Also, having a less serious tone overall doesn't preclude having more serious moments.
>>11987648I bought Neon Genesis Evangelion for the N64 while the N64 was still getting games.
>>11987837>Yeah, it's a satire on cold war film settings back in the 60s and 70s. The Boss' unit is a prime example of this exaggeration.Which I love. Little Ocelot comes off as such a dork from that scene, it's great.>>11987391Wait, you said Vietnam, not Venezuela.Vietnam would not be a great place to do Shagohod shenanigans either, because it's an outright warzone. The U.S was going hogwild with conventional bombIng there, and even had excursions across the Vietnamese borders and shit.The story would call for an installation that isn't right on America's doorstep, not somewhere there had recently been a big potential nuclear situation, and which wouldn't be at risk of purely accidental bombing by American forces, so neither Cuba nor Vietnam would work.
>>11987381Yes, yes. You want to feel special. We get it.
>>11987383Central Asia doesn't look like that either, the prologue zooms in on an area just east of the Urals, and every area has a Slavic Russian name. The toponymy is not Turkic or Iranian or anything like that, so it is very much meant to be in the RSFSR.
>>11987243the crocodile bit at least is explained away as research animals getting lose. they're not natural to the area. even it's still dumb they knew enough to try to hedge it.
>>11988450I think making an excuse for stuff like that helps a bit, like the whole thing about chainsaws on Mars in Doom 3. It's there because they wanted to be there, but they also thought of a reason as to why.I wonder if escaped crocodiles could live alright for at least a while in any wilderness areas anywhere in Russia or the related republics, assuming it was summertime? Good rainfall and high temperatures, enough smaller animals to eat.
It's because Tselinoyarsk exists as an R&D location, so they manufactured a foreign climate in order to conduct tests in different environmental conditions. Similar deal with the crocodiles, which were a separate research experiment, only the crocodiles escaped into the Tselinoyarsk jungle and became wild again.Play the game
>>11988517i cant stand ppl like u who just come in a post your 'facts' with no regards to the feelings of othersYOU JUST MADE ALL THE 62 POSTS ABOVE YOU LOOK LIIE THEY ARE JUST TALKING NONSENSETHINK ABOUT PPLS FEELING
>>119876482004 was literally the peak of Anime being popular before it entirely became normie slop like it is today you are retarded
>>11988517Lmao, I can imagine frauds like Lysenko boasting how they can "alter nature itself though COMMUNISM" and approve bullshit like artificial climate zones in a localized environment.
>>11987243i have never thought about this stuff in my life and im finding it pretty hilarious.
>>11987243Doesn't the map in the mission briefing show that it's in Turkmenistan or something?
>>11987243That's what has your rectum completely obliterated? Not the fact that The Boss's gun has infinite ammo because it;s shaped like an infinity symbol? Or the final boss that has electrokinesis? Or the literal afterlife level? Or the fact that you can find and eat a Tsuchinoko, which is a fictional creature?Fucking retard
>>11987243When the first details of the game emerged, we could tell pretty quickly that it was gonna be the big boss origin story game. I definitely remember more than a few people I used to talk to on the gamefaqs forums wondering if it was going to take place in Vietnam though. That could’ve been pretty interesting but definitely lacking the broad appeal of “American action hero fights the Russians”
>>11987531Nah man, the Ocelot meow and the “someday you’ll feed on a tree frog” lyric from the theme song were always extremely embarrassing. I say this as someone who was hyped through the roof for this game when I was 16, to the point that I secretly opened it a few days before Christmas and beat it before I officially opened it because I couldn’t take the wait any longer.
>>11987908And the guy whose only character trait is shitting his pants became a main character, and Big Boss somehow was alive at the end which retroactively made the plot of all the prior 3d games (especially solid 1) way stupider for no reason, and cutting the legs out from the post-credits call from 2 which was setting the patriots up to be way more interesting than they ultimately were.The game had tons of infuriatingly dumb story beats.
>>11987248>So, how's the remake? Is it faithful to the original?They are going to delete EVA breasts movements. Reason enough to never buy or pay that remake.
>>11987243>nooo, a scientific climate experiments in a fiction videogame about an autustuic cia agent who fought against bipedal nuclear tanks, that's not realistic!Jesus...
>>11988845>a campy moment happens in a videogameThis doesn't mean you should take it seriously and be embarrassed about It, you idiot.
>>11987396In Cuba, yes
>>119872431- it's set in Soviet2- the Soviet was huge, and it covered lots of area
>>11987243>This game is absolutely retarded.Ate least the original has the EVA breasts movements. In the trash remake they are going to remove the movements.
>>11988287>Goymake slopper calling the kettle black bcuz he can't goy a goyme unless it's kekreal engine 5Lol. Lmao even
>>11987381This desu
>>11987243kill yourself, subhuman.
>>11987648zoom zoom zoom
>>11987243In Soviet Russia, crocodile hunts YOU
>>11987648>he wasnt trading and copying anime on vhs in the 90sngmi
Tselina is region in Northen Kazakhstan, Astana, it's modern capital was called Tselinograd back in 1964, obviously it has no jungles or crocodiles either, it's a steppe region with some rare forests, but MGS is clearly set in alternate world so who cares.Also MGS 3 has a funny goof in opening cutscene where modern Russia's map is shown, despite CCCP clearly being a thing and Natasha from MGS 1 being Soviet Ukrainian with typical Ukrainian surname ending in -enko
>>11987648look at this normie hahahah
