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almost $300 to buy vintage videogames right now !!!! and play them how they're intended. What the hell is this shit. I would pay fifty dollars MAX. Who is deciding these prices!?

>playing digital on retro gear
That is not how the original artists intended them to be played! That is not how they were played in the release year. That is not the real experience !!!
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>>11988557
>Who is deciding these prices!?
Ironically people who would rather pay hundreds for a game rather than emulate
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>>11988571
Saturn emulation is shit.
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>>11988571
A modchip is 1 wire, the only people buying saturn games are huge retards
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>>11988585
Mednafen is good actually, at least better than paying $270 for a blobber that's unremarkable no matter what you play it on
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>>11988596
Then don't seethe about the price since you can play it for free.
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>>11988596
Is Saturn emulation finally 1:1 or what?
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>>11988557
But you have had a hard time finding that game back in the day too, Tomb Raider is $15 on Saturn which is much cheaper than when it was new.
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You can have mine, OP. What's your address?
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Burn a disc and play it on a Saturn. It's literally the same experience as wasting hundreds of dollars on some shitty plastic
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>>11988557
>perfect condition COMPLETE
there's your problem op, just buy a loose disc if all you want is to play a legit copy
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>>11989003
No, I'm entitled to a sealed copy in perfect condition for a lower price than it retailed for in stores.
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>>11989007
Idiot, no one said sealed, and a loose ass disc like >>11988659
this guy is saying is not much better, most are selling for over 90 dollars. Plus nobody wants a loose disc. We want the full experience.
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>>11989267
>We want the full experience.
So do other people and because there is limited supply you are going to have to compete to own it in the form of increased cost. Economics are very simple I shouldnt need to tell an adult this.
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>>11988557
why don't you just pay 300 and then when you've played it, sell it for 300 or even more and then it cost you nothing? what does it matter then if it's 1000?
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>>11988585
It's not 2010 anymore gramps. N64 emulation is also good now.
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>>11988585
Works on my machine
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>>11988557
>giving money to losers and grifters on ebay for software they originally bought for $10 at a flea market
embarrassing

>>11988585
doesn't help when the console's hardware is also shit and incredibly convoluted.

>>11989003
>>perfect condition COMPLETE
meaning: comes with case and manual. and perfect? not until i see the underside of the disc. these collection of losers on ebay decided to jack up prices of english titles to absurd highs but nobody is buying. people are just laughing at them instead. japanese version $30-$50 - complete with everything. ebay grifters are just the ultimate losers of life. it's unreal to witness.
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>>11989316
because the game is actually worth a fraction of the price. ebay grifters don't set prices for the world. and you'd have to be inflicted with severe mental retardation to use ebay as a price guide.
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>>11990125
you have no idea what you're talking about
just stop
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>>11988557
Why didn't you buy the games when they were cheap? You're just a reseller who's upset they weren't able to buy in when prices were low.
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>>11988585
Saturn emulation has been fine since 2008 or so. I remember playing Nights through the composite video out of my videocard, hooked up to my TV, it looked the exact same as my actual Saturn.

It's just that saturn games really do look like shit so if you see the pixelated output on an emulator it will look extremely bad. Composite out smooths things a lot and makes the games look better.
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>>11989007
this

resellers should pay me for the privilege of having kept my destined copy in cryostorage for the past 49 years
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Just wait until VR takes over and we can have digital replicas that feel like the real thing in our hands. Only problem is that you take off the glasses and you're stick in a plain white room with nothing.
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>>11988557
that one's on the cheaper side even. Honestly one of these days I think I very well part with my collection. I never touch them.
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>>11988617
>Is Saturn emulation finally 1:1 or what?
Mednafen (called Beetle Saturn on Retroarch) is really good, but it doesn't have any enhancements, so you have to play at native res with checkerboard "transparency" and you'll also have to use shaders to deal with interlacing in 480i games unless there's a way to use Mednafen with a CRT at a proper 480i signal
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>>11991082
For whatever reason Beetle through Retroarch runs shit. It loads but I get an empty disc tray menu. It's probably something stupid, but ive been to lazy to really fuck with it.
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>>11988585
then pay 300 dollars for a identical experience because you are retarded
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>>11991345
Huh, weird. Works perfectly on my machine. I even convert my game to CHDs and they work perfectly
Getting to the menu means you do have the BIOS though, so that means there's something wrong with your games or how you load them
Have you tried grabbing a game from Myrient and loading the ZIP of the game directly?
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>>11991359
>Have you tried grabbing a game from Myrient and loading the ZIP of the game directly?

I have not. I used to get all my shit from CDR. Might have to update that.
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>>11991361
CDR is nice for the convenience of pre-patched romhacks, but Myrient is the best for official releases
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>>11991367
I'll try it out or monkey around with things some. It probably is the iso then.
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>>11988557
Gaming and collecting are related yet separate hobbies.
If you just want to play then pirate the fucker. I don't care how.
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>>11988557
>Who is deciding these prices!?
nobody
as long as there is some retard that's full of nostalgia that is ok with paying those prices ($300 for a single childhood game is really not that much as a one-time thing) the seller has no incentive to go anywhere below market price
there's also the fact that the market itself can be manipulated (see grading companies scam), people just don't know the real value of those games so they pay whatever price they see without thinking twice
collectors also would pay pretty much anything just to have a full-set
also covid happened and it pretty much raped the entire used retrogame market and it never recovered since, people were stuck at home with nothing to do so everyone hoped on the retrogames bandwagon
to be fair their prices definitely got lower since covid but it's nowhere near the pre-covid levels
there's also the fact that currenly most of the industry is living off remasters, when interest for some niche forgotten game spikes due to an upcoming remaster/remake sellers would want to profit from it

tldr: ignorance from the customers, sellers just doing their jobs, it's dumb to shift all the blame on a single party (I would say it's mostly the customers that buy shit for that prices and no the other way around tho)
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>>11990130
True. It's ebay buyers that set the price. Which is $150-$200 for Shining Holy Ark. You can set whatever sell price you want but it's only worth what someone is willing to pay.
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>>11988571
>>11988585
Do what I did and invest in an ODE. Yeah $85USD is a bit steep but it's way better and more convenient than burning discs, which is what I used to do until the disc drive finally crapped out.
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>>11991813
>also covid happened and it pretty much raped the entire used retrogame market and it never recovered since, people were stuck at home with nothing to do so everyone hoped on the retrogames bandwagon
>to be fair their prices definitely got lower since covid but it's nowhere near the pre-covid levels

Who is buying though? Sega Saturn tanked in the UK, I didn't know it even existed when I was moving from 16-bit to 32/64-bit because it's advertising was so shit and I ended up getting an N64.

These people are just sitting on it for literally months and years on ebay expecting a massive payday. When fucking POUNDLAND is too expensive to shop at, who is their customer base?



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