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>get Sonic Adventure for Christmas of 2000 as a kid
>love it
>buy a Gamecube later on
>see Sonic Adventure DX in a Walmart one day, didn't even know it came out
>"Whoa, it's like Sonic Adventure but with better graphics!"
>buy it
>love it again
>years later, baffled to learn that a sizeable number of obese retards think DX is some kind of abomination that ruins the original work
>constantly see this hit piece of a website brought up during discussion: https://dreamcastify.unreliable.network
>tl;dr: "Ackshually, DX is SHIT and most people think Sonic Adventure sucks because they've only played DX and not the terribly misrepresented DC version that's way better!"
>indulge the autism and actually read through a good 80% of the content, give it a fair shot
>most of the proposed "downgrades" (as the site calls them on every page) are subjective bullshit like different textures (that typically look better than the originals) that the article author tries to paint as some whopping oversight just because he prefers the originals, even if there's nothing inherently wrong with the changes
>the few legitimate gripes are barely noticeable and mostly isolated to a small number of areas in the game; not to mention most are pedantic as fuck, e.g. "This one tiny texture in this one spot that you may never even notice is actually compressed to 16x16 down from 32x32! Game ruined LOL"
>almost completely glazes over the vast number of improvements DX has, like tons of additional geometry, shadows added to the environment in places where they were missing in the original game, and so on
>all of this on top of having a framerate double that of the DC (60 vs 30), significantly better looking character models and animations, better controls and greatly expanded content
It's time to admit that DX on Gamecube is the best version of the game, and that any of its flaws are massively overblown by fat deranged men online.
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>>11997724
Cube version is insanely blurry, looks like an n64 game
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>>11997736
Get your eyes checked
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>>11997737
Doc said I have 20:20 vision in both eyes, but not even I can tell the difference between these thumbnails.
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>>11997724
dx fucked every texture
dx fucked the lighting
dx fucked the models and made sonic's head an oval
dx fucked the framerate (instead of a solid 30, its 60 with massive drops)
dx ruined the water animation after the whale scene
dx ruined my favorite part of speed highway and you fall through the left wall every time
not to mention they completely gutted the sa1 chao and slapped in sa2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SORYL5J1Heg
have fun
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>>11997751
>made sonic's head an oval
lol
dreamcast sharts, everyone
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>>11997724
>>11997737
I don't care how many mods you use, I will never accept the PC port as an equal to the console versions.
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The original Japanese release of SA1 was even more janky. More bugs, more noticeable pop-in, etc
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>>11997757
This is the version DX was based on
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>>11997754
>I don't care how many mods you use, I will never accept the PC port as an equal to the console versions.
nobody is talking about the PC port retard
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>>11997724
cube looks best. followed by dreamcast. The blur hides the way the textures are just pictures pasted onto basic geometry. It helps with suspension of disbelief, like 24fps for films. The high res outputs reveal the grass and the vine leaves to too clearly be pasted up photographs of the things and not the things. Like a movie interpolated to 60FPS by indian kid that now looks like a cheap soap opera
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>>11997752
It's hard to unsee imo
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>>11997810
The flesh being kinda orange just looks better
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>>11997724
Back in the day EVERYBODY considered DX the definitive version because of 60fps and higher poly models. Just blame autism.
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>>11997759
bullshit
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>>11997724
>got Sonic Adventure DX in 2007 as a kid
>love it
>see Sonic Adventure DC on the internet one year later, didn't even know what a Dreamcast was
>"Whoa, it's like Sonic Adventure but with better graphics!"
>ask my dad and he buys me a dreamcast on ebay that came with the game
>love it again especially since the vmu came with a completed save
>years later, vindicated to learn that a sizeable number of chads think DX is some kind of flawed port that nonetheless had an important impact on many 2000s children like myself
fuck the steam version though
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>>11997810
wow, what the fuck did they do to his shoes? looks awful
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>>11998198
all I got out of that was
>I'm a zoomer
vindicated because I'm always saying these SA threads are all zoomers
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I think its a fair opinion to say that DX fucked a lot of the graphics and introduced some more jank. But for some reason, terminal Sonic autists have this idea that the only reason SA1 has a bad reputation is because more people played DX than the DC original, which is very amusing. Sure, there is more physics fuckery and movement jank in the DX port, but lets not pretend that the vast majority of that game's problems aren't also present in the DC original. It's a fucked up game no matter which version you play. I think it's very endearing and charming but its kusoge through and through, not some misunderstood masterpiece.

Sonic mega autists will reflexively try to prove you wrong by posting some webm where some speedrunning troon spindashes off a ledge to glitch through 8 walls and lands on a dime to finish the level in 10 seconds as proof that Sonic Adventure has good gameplay. Let's be fucking real, it just doesn't.
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>>11998343
>be me
>not a bitter millennial who hates sonic as a whole because "sonic 06 amrite? LOLOLOLOLOL"
Feels good, man.
>>11998198
I'm a fellow zoom and first played Sonic Adventure in 2009 after my brother bought a bunch of old systems from a flea market, notably a Dreamcast. I loved my Dreamcast so much man. I eventually checked out DX on PC in 2012 and didn't think it was any worse; I actually thought it was far superior since you could now see Chao stats, you won't accidentally hurt your Chao anymore as picking them up is now a different button from attacking, and of course the game had smoother models + 60fps. It was only in the late 2010's that I started seeing people suppose the DX version was bad.
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No preference between the two versions. The dc chao garden eats your whole memory card and drains your battery immediately
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>>11997724
>>11998198
>>11998564
>get DX as a kid in 2005
>see footage of the dreamcast version a couple years later
>think it looks like shit
>everyone else I see online agrees that DX is the superior version
>be baffled by autistic nitpicking about minor flaws in DX taking over the discourse surrounding the ports in the late 2010s
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>>11997724
nobody owned a fucking dreamcast
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>>11999858
I bought one in 2000 used at Electronics Boutique and it was my primary console for many years.
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>>11998478
It's funny how angry people get when you point out that SA1 has some jank and then they pretend that the Dreamcast version has literally zero glitches
Who cares if the game is a bit janky if it's fun and you like it?
SA1 is one of my favorite games by the way, I replay it about every 5 years
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>>12000083
>the game breaks when I intentionally execute nigh-implausible bugs
stfu
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>>12000083
>>12000108
I remember this shit happening all the time in SA Dreamcast, there's nothing nigh-implausible about it.
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>>11997737
The right one actually looks better, except maybe for the greenish tint on the ocean which I think looks nicer but that's entirely subjective on my part.
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>>12000708
>I remember this shit happening all the time in SA Dreamcast
No you don't lol
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>>12000754
That ramp in the first level is ridiculous and can glitch like that without even trying. Some of us actually have memories of life in 1999
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>>12000780
True I fell through that bitch dozens of times in my lifetime
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Thank god I didn't play these games as a kid. I'm convinced Sonic games spread autism.
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>>11997736
Retard.
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I'd take the DX version more seriously if Sonic's shoes didn't look like the hotdog toy I had when I was 7.
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>>11998332
>shoes
Yeah they actually look like shoes now, ick
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>>11997751
>unlocked framerate is bad
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>>12000926
Great, now I can't unsee it.
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>>11997736
No game looks blurry on the GameCube because it had antialiasing which SOME consoles of that generation somehow forgot to include
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>>12001764
>because it had antialiasing
No gamecube games had antialiasing, the only 6th gen console with AA is Xbox which had tons of games with MSAA.
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>pc port
Any ROGUE mods?!!!!!?!??
Asking for a friend
(Myself)
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>>11997724
>lighting broken
>colors fullbright
>transparencies removed
>broken animations on the main character
it's DXing time
>>12001764
anti-aliasing is what MAKES games look blurry you colossal mongoloid. you're confusing blurry with jaggy.
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There is something strangely cathartic about just watching this snake thing float around and silently breathe fire while the gentle background music plays.
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>>11997724
not my problem
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>>12002664
>>12002707
>>12002710
I remember using this in the past
Is it still decent or is there something better now that it's archived?
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>>11997724
Nobody would care about this shovelware tier game if it wasn’t a sonic game.
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>>12002720
it should look like this
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>>12002724
>Nobody would care about this game if it wasn't soulful
Thanks, Captain Retard
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>>12002724
>Nobody would care about this shovelware tier game if it wasn’t an exclusive
damn
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>>12002731
>corporate mascot
>soul
It must be hard living with low functioning autism
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>>12002738
>NOOOO IF A CHARACTER HAS MORE THAN TWO GAMES IT'S CORPORATE SLOP
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>>11997737
I won't lie, the right almost makes it look like some kind of GBA remaster.



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