>for a whole generation, this is canon.
>canonOh no.
>>12000460non retro version
>>12000460What in tarnation is that red thing in the top right?
>>12000532Relm?
>>12000460>Final fantasy dimensions style spritesThe fucked part is dimensions original mobile release had snes style sprites. What the fuck is wrong with square?
>>12000461I still remember the day that Star Trek nerds brought this term onto The Internet and it spread to all kinds of spergs. Most of those guys are probably dead or in diapers now.
>>12000460In Japan maybe. Who actually played those phone ports in the US?
>>12000824>Japan was influenced by the English localization of the FF6 mobile portA lot of thought was put into this post before he made it, huh?>>12000804The majority of consumers want that, sadly.
>>12000810>star trek nerdsIt comes from the Bible, dude. Canon's origins is in religion and seeing what texts "count"
>>12000848No shit, but applying the term outside of Biblical studies into "fandoms" was done mostly by Star Trek nerds on the early Internet. Star Trek was big in those days and most "fandom" memes come from them.
>>12000858>Star Trek nerdsIt's trekkie thank you very much
>>12000460>>12000804Threadly reminder that the pixel remaster sprites are modeled after the chibi style Square used at the time. Had they been able to release FF VI in higher resolution than what the SNES could do, that is what it would have looked like.
>>12001008OPs pic isn't from the pixel remaster
>>12001008Sometimes limitations are a good thing, that looks like shit. Thank god they couldn't use them.
>>12000858Was it really a trekkie thing? I'd imagine it would come from Star War nerds, since that is where I first heard it from in the context of expanded canon vs movie canon vs it's canon because George Lucas said so.
>>12001017Star Trek had decades of continuity and canon and lore by the time Star Wars even started cashing in its culture shekels.
>>12000840Can you try making sense?
at least Alucard is at the helm
>>12001016Japanese people have shockingly awful taste in some things and it helps them enormously when the creative media they are working in prevent them from indulging some of their worst desires
>>12001008that's for ff5 though, they went back to amano's art for 6
What a clusterfuck of a thread.>>12000460That's the mobile version, which is delisted and has been unavailable for some time now. The Pixel Remaster version is pretty much all you'll see wherever you look now.>>12001008The original sprites already followed that style. There's no reason they couldn't have also looked good in higher-res form. They just did a poor job of it for the mobile port, and unfortunately they decided to model the PR sprites after the mobile version's sprites rather than go back to the originals.>>12001612The SNES FF6 sprites are more based around Nomura's art than Amano's. Pic related.
>>12001008>Had they been able to release FF VI in higher resolution than what the SNES could do, that is what it would have looked like.I highly doubt that. If they did though, they would have used a similar look in a more appealing way and made the assets look consistent with each other. It would've been made with different sprites in mind from the start, with the evironments and everything fitting them. The Steam/mobile version looks like garbage.Plus the sprites don't even do a good job of mimicking that style. The overlapping feet suck.
>>12001017As far as I remember, I'm sure someone else used these terms, but the trekkies spread it outwards to the greater internet. The first time I heard about a slash-fic on the internet was someone talking about Kirk and Spock fucking.
>>12000976Ummmm don't lump us trekkies in with *those* trekkies, alright? I'm not a nerd-- I'm a fit adventurer. kthxbai
>>12001016I agree.>>12001676>>12001682To be clear, I actually think these >>12001008 are incredibly ugly designs. FF7's chibi sprites are also in that same style. It's a weird irony that 6 looks as good as it does precisely because of the limitations of the SNES. >>12000858As a huge Star Wars fan in the 80's and 90's we talked about what was canon vs not canon before the internet was really a thing. It's very possible Trekkies were doing the same thing, but I didn't associate with them because Trekkies are nerds.
>>12001037>>12001690I guess I was just not aware Star Trek had anything back then but the tv shows, while I know Star Wars had a bunch of expanded universe material with ambiguous canonicity that generated fan discussion about what should count or not.
>>12000674Hm... Haven't gotten that far yet.
>>12002907When you do get her, you'll probably think she sucks, and she does at first, but that's only because her special Skill is no good. So, here's a tip: her real utility is her best-in-game Magic stat and her equipment which boosts it further, which means she can do more damage with Magic than even Terra, unless she Morphs. But again, you HAVE to teach her good spells ASAP. Now, while she's learning spells, you can make her kind of useful by giving her elemental rods (several of which you'll gather along the way) and fighting with them, which will have her cast random level 2 spells. In the sequence a short bit after she joins, provided you have a Genji Glove, you can give her two Thunder Rods, and she will absolutely wipe the floor with every enemy.
>>12000848Bible =/= your gay little fandom
>>12002951Man, how do you know/remember all these details and names? To me it more or less becomes a haze.
>>12002962It was my first RPG i.e. I imprinted upon it baby duck-style, plus a heavy dose of autism. And this is but a taste of it. Once you finish the game, you ought to look up on the archives the playthrough threads I posted here last year for some REAL FF6 autism.
>>12002974> you ought to look up on the archives the playthrough threads I posted here last year for some REAL FF6 autism.Have you found some non-vidya ways of channeling this proclivity of yours?
>>12003019My autism also extends to etymology and biblical studies. I am a language teacher, and I share what I learn of the former when the opportunity presents itself. The latter I only share here sparsely, as it's a topic that often challenges many a person's closely held presuppositions and beliefs in an unwelcome manner.
>>12003037If you can stand a bunch of marxist idiocy then maybe you might like /lit/.So you make a living from knowing scripture? That's pretty rad, if you do. I'm currently trying to grok Aristotles forms and Neoplatonism because I need to know more about scholasticism. Seeing how I'm pretty much a gay retard, it's an uphill battle.>>12002960kekBut also, "canon" is a well established name. Yes, spergy nerds use it too much, but it's been in English for 800+ years:https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=canonIn the church they talk about "The books to include in the Bible" as "canon". That shit was done by the year 250:https://www.gotquestions.org/canon-Bible.html
>>12003087>That shit was done by the year 250Not quite. According to that site, that only extended to the Old Testament, and as is clear from the Catholic/Protestant split, it's a question that is still not agreed upon today among every Christian. As for the New Testament, the first attested person to list the current canon of twenty-seven books in its entirety was Athanasius of Alexandria in a letter written in 367 AD. Now, to be fair, most of the books were already regarded as canon as early as the late second century in the Muratorian canon, but there was quite a bit of disagreement over such staples as the letters of Peter, James, Jude, and even Revelation, and books such as the Apocalypse of Peter very nearly made it into the canon, while others like 1 Clement, the Epistle of Barnabas, and the Shepherd of Hermas, while not quite regarded as apostolic, were nevertheless held in high enough regard that they were part of one of the earliest complete manuscripts of the entire Bible (Codex Sinaiticus). So overall, it was a long, slow process of consensus-building.
>>12001676I have never seen this or even heard that Nomura did this. Those look amazing and are incredibly full of life. You can also see a little bit of Cloud and Sephiroth coming in there. Why can't they make a game where they figure out how to make the characters look like this in a modern mobile or Switch game without fucking it up somehow. I guess Nomura would have to direct or produce as he has the best vision (imo) besides Matsuno. Also random, but I just looked up Matsuno to see what he is up to and never knew the fact that he studied Foreign Policy, maybe that's why he always has the political elements that he makes original and interesting.
>As a huge Star Wars fan in the 80's and 90'sThey were doing it since the 60s, lol.>>12002208Well, now you know. Trekkies are much older and more prolific at the time. Star Wars nerds didn't get on the internet because of the lower IQ.
>>12001017I'm a TNG era trekker but it's definitely a Star Trek thing. At least half of the threads on the Star Trek forum I used to frequent were debates about canon. Warsies have always had a lot of extraneous media of dubious canonicity, so it was usually less of an issue for them since for a long time they had to take what they could get. They kind of have separate little bubbles of canon between the books and games and comics. Star Trek technically only has one canon and people take it all very personally.
>>12000460Everyone generation that's not yours doesn't care about Final Fantasy Shitx
>>12000804Enterbrain warped their asses badly
>>12000848Canon is a greek term, again with the hebrew cult taking stuff from others again.
>>12004596Yeah it comes from the Greek word "kanōn (κᾰνών)," which means "rule" or "measuring stick," but the usage of the word "canon" in English comes from early Christians and the Catholic church. It has a different meaning from the original Greek. The usage of the word in "Biblical canon" is what Sherlock Holmes fans took it from, applying it to which books were actually official and written by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.
why do they look like funko pops
>>12004939Chibi stuff was cool and nice before funky poops
>>12004626>sherlock holmes19th century low iq slop
>>12001008>FF VI in higher resolution than what the SNES could do, that is what it would have looked like.If the SNES could achieve a higher resolution, the sprites would have a completely different design. The characters were purposely designed that way specifically because of the limitations.
>canon >canon canon >canon canon CANON canon Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIeblInAksM
I like the SNES graphics better