What playing order would you recommend for someone who wants to get into DQ? 3 -> 1 -> 2, or 1 -> 2 -> 3?
1 -> 2 -> 3
>>12005451>3 -> 1 -> 2,Who put this retarded idea in your head?
2 > 1 > 3 > 1 > 2 > 3
>>120054511 > 2 > Zelda Link to the past > 3 > Live a Live
>>12005480It's the recommendation from Yuji Horii for the original trilogy nowadays, it's why the remasters are releasing in that order.
>>12005509The big reveal towards the end of 3 just loses all meaning if you play this game first, weird that Horii said that but I kinda get why>3 is more popular than 1 and 2 so it gets remade first>oh yeah you should start with 3 don't worry please buy
>>12005509Are you the target audiance for the mememasters? The kind of young retard who hates old games but thinks he's obligated to play the classics so he buys "remasters" made for him with "HD graphics" and "QoL that fix the antiquated game design" ?If yes, you can follow Yuji Horii's modern marketing induced recommendations, I don't give a shit.
>>12005509The thing is, that order applies to the remasters because they are being built from the ground up with it in mind. If you play the original versions, you gotta go in release order
3 -> 1 -> 2 -> 3
1 -> 1 -> 1 -> 1 -> 2 -> 1 -> 1 -> 1 -> 6 -> Hydlide -> 3 -> 2 (Prince of Cannock solo run)
Key rule for consuming any type of media: production order above all. You start from the beginning and you follow the full story. No exceptions. "Chronological order" is false.
>>12005530Reminder that almost any time a remaster does something that heavily changes the plot (like the DQ2 remake adding the Cannock Prince's sister as a party member) and the creator says they wanted to do it in the original game, it's usually a marketing lie. DQ2 was three party members, period.
>>12005451There is no reason to play 3 before 11 is a pretty short game, you can skip 2 and jump straight to 3 but no way in hell you should skip 1 and play 3
I don't get it, why would you play stat determinism zero gameplay density jarpig garbage instead of an actual game like a shmup? Genuinely, do you not want to play a game or something?
>>12005757You can enjoy both.
>>12005760But jarpigs literally aren't games?
>>12005763>umm am I concerned when we are not about me?
>>12005770I just don't fathom why you'd want to "play" a non-game like DQ that has literally zero decision making, execution, friction or density
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>>12005451Should be 1+2 on gameboy color then 3 on snes.
>>12005451I started earlier this week, went with release order. Everywhere I looked said SNES version is easier, so I went with NES afraid I might get bored of the SNES version. I got to a point where I noticed there's nowhere to go unless I grind, so I looked up a guide and it turns out I was way too underleveled and lacking good equipment due to abusing the run command to explore. The SNES version apparently has faster grinding, so maybe in retrospect I should have gone with that one. Still plan to play it after the NES version.
>>12005685This should be a fucking sticky.
>>12006047>I was way too underleveled and lacking good equipment due to abusing the run command to exploreIs this like your first JRPG?Just don't run and most likely you'll be fine.
>>12005753>skip 2Why even do release order if you're going to skip the game that made DQ what it is.
>>12005757>>12005763>>12005773in a just society you would be killed.
>>12006057>Is this like your first JRPG?No but I haven't played one in probably a decade. Decided DQ was a good one to come back to the genre. I used run because for example, after beating the dragon and rescuing the princess barely at 7 or 8 I think, the only new place I felt I could go without dying was the town where you buy magic keys, but only barely. I had to run from half of the fights to survive getting there, unlike other places where even running I couldn't get to. From there the only place it felt I could go is the dungeon where you get the silver harp, but only the first floor was doable, the lower floors were kicking my ass. After dying a few times I found out where to go there, so I made a run for the harp, skipping most fights. Except now I can't find where else to go without better equipment and more levels, so now I think I have to grind. Anyway, game is way more fun than I expected. To OP, start with 1.
>>12006081*barely at level 7 or 8 I think
>1, 2, 3, 4(NES)>5, 6 (SNES)>7 (PS)>8 (PS2)>9 (you can probably skip this one)>10 (you can definitely skip this one)>11 (you can probably skip this one)
>>120060642 is irrelevant if your objective is just to play 3.1 after 3 is more ideal and you skip the slog that is 2 too. I wonder how are they gonna fix it on the remaster.
>>12005451Always play the one you want to most first, otherwise play in release order to fully appreciate how the series grows.
>>120061029 is kino as fuck if you played all the previous games
>>12006109>hey guy wanting to get into the DQ series, listen to me, guy who thinks dragon quest is a slog.
>>12006134You really should only play 2 if you really like DQ.
>>12006136It's one of the most influential JRPGs of all time. You should play it even if you hate JRPGs.
>>12006109Well luckily OP does not seem to be desperate to get to 3 and is only asking if he should start with it because the series creator is saying do that now. And I don't know how someone can recommend 1 then call 2 a slog when it improves on EVERYTHING the first game did.
>>12006179Because 1 isn't nearly as long and tedious, it's one of least tedious jrpgs
>>12006196>play 1 because its short>dont play 2 because its long>play 3 even though its longer than 1 and 2ok good info so far, anything else?
>>12006206But 3 is a good game
You're going to learn that in the realm of (Japanese, if you really need to delineate it) RPGs, you only need the 8-bit ones.
>>12005738The thing with princess Cannock originally playing a bigger role was known about for years before HD-2Ds were happening, though I don't think they'll be going the full "Cannock dies at the end so his sister murders Midenhall as revenge" route with her like they originally wanted.
>>12005451To get into DQ I'd say start with 3.1 is a really rough start, and 2 has some dreadful difficulty balancing at certain points because its development got rushed. People may not like to hear it, but 1 is just not a very good introduction to DQ or what people like about it, 3 however, is.
>>12006278Terrible advice.
>>12005773You sound like an upset ff fan seething because DQ still thrives
>>12006273She would likely have just given you a major plot-related item like one of the crests and little more than that. Horii simply wanted to bring DQ2's party count up to the now-traditional four and was literally scraping the barrel for any half-assed idea.
>>12006704I mean, why wouldn't she be a party member though? If you think about it, its kinda weird that she wasn't part of the party in the original since its all about Alef's descendants taking up the mantle as heroes. Cannock's sister has just as much Erdrick blood in her as he does.
>>12006753Some people just don't want to be a hero, period.
>>12005518isn't it because 3 is first in the timeline?
>>12006273>Cannock dies at the end so his sister murders Midenhall as revengeIdea which was scrapped because it was terrible. That's the thing with remasters and remakes, they always dig into the trash of the originals to expand it.The only way this remake would redeem itself a little bit in my eyes is if they'd include all the cuts enemies (and nothing more), though I still wouldn't play it despite DQ2 being one of my favourite games. Or rather, I don't want to play it exactly because it's my favourite game and I don't want the image to be tarnished by all the modern bullshit they inevitably include.
>>12006769Yeah, but it was intended to be played after 1 and 2 so that you would be surprised at the third act twist of you yourself being the legendary Hero spoken of in the previous games.
>>12006763She literally asks you if she can come along but then the Prince tells her to stay
If FC DQ1 is too much or too "primitive" for you then you shouldn't be on /vr/.
5 onwards. The first 4 are just beta versions of Dragon Quest.
>>12006785And she accepts her place like a good princess should. If they really wanted to make her playable, they would have added a sub-plot of her slipping out of the castle and you have to track her down before she joins, but they didn't.
>>12007078I somehow doubt they even had the space on the cartridge for a 4th member at the time.
>>12006825>you must enjoy the most boring and grindy RPG on the console or else you don't belong!!!Imagine actually thinking like this
>>12007246Just for a sake of argument we say that DQ1 is the most boring and grindy RPG on the console, it still wouldnt change the fact that if you dont like DQ1 you shouldnt be on the board. Oh no god forbid you leave and now there is one less person here saying that the only way to play a game from the 80s is to emulator fastforward and hack a bunch of money.
>>12007352Nice projection retard, however there are well designed games from the 80s that can be entertaining and not require fast forward to play, unlike DQ1, ffs 80% of your time spent playing DQ1 will just be grinding, not even just killing shit while exploring, cause the world is tiny and you will have seen and walked through all of it by about level 12, it genuinely takes fucking longer to grind to a high enough level to be able to face the Dragonlord than it does to even explore and gain access to his castle in a blind playthrough.I don't care if it's the first JRPG, all that means is it paved the way for better games. I'm so tired of this dumbass dick sucking just because it was the first one.
>>120054803 is a prequel to 1
>>12007379Which wouldn't make any sense to you unless you played the first game first.
>>12007368what could I possibly be projecting do you even know what that means?
>>12007352>it still wouldnt change the fact that if you dont like DQ1 you shouldnt be on the board.This isn't /vrpg/, anon. Also what dumb logic.
>>12007395>now there is one less person here saying that the only way to play a game from the 80s is to emulator fastforward and hack a bunch of money.This is clearly your own issue you've got in your head. Maybe you should take your own advice and leave.
>>12007379This isn’t how any media is meant to be enjoyed.
>>12007418Im not projecting anything im explicitly telling you and your fried synapses that if you cant kill monsters for 10 hours in dragon quest then stay out of dragon quest threads, please.
>>12007429>shifted from 'on this board' to 'in a dragon quest thread'Hmmmmmmmmm
>>12007429Ah yes, because that's what made DQ so legendary, sitting in front of your TV spamming attack on the same weak monsters for 10 hours. Yup this is the essence of it, nothing else of value at all, nope.Fuck off zoomer poser clown, you're trying way too hard to fit in.
>>12007447Japan absolutely LOVES that kind of repetitive tedium. It likely matches how they see their own lives: grind, grind, grind nonstop until you succeed or die.
>>12007450Pretty sure most Japanese would call famicom DQ1 or DQ2 kusoge now.
>>12005480It's the "warm up to shitty game design" order. Common for JRPG series.
>>12007379Doesn't mean you should play it first; the predecessor informs the successor.
>>12007246>I can't handle antiquated game design that structures its opening specifically for players to get to grips with the system You're just proving my point my point.
>>12005685I was gonna say 1 > 3 > 2 but I like this answer better and from now on I'm going to use it. Just don't be afraid to drop 2 and move on to 3 if it gets too bullshitty near the end you aren't missing much.
>>120054511>4>3
>>12007669Who are you quoting?
There's no actual order. The best method is just to play the game you really want to play since you find it the most interesting. I did that with Phantasy Star and started with PSII, then played I, III, then IV.
>>12008041Take it up with the previous reply.
>>12008068The difference is that my post actually sums up the retarded shit you spouted.Your post is just nonsensical babble, literally no one is complains about the start of DQ1, did you even play the game? You sound so damn clueless.You don't have any point, first you say people shouldn't be on /vr/, then you say they shouldn't be in DQ threads, now you've gone back to my first reply to you and you're trying to pretend I'm proving your point as you project more retarded takes onto me.Genuinely, (You) do not belong here, fuck off back to /v/
>>12008071Yeah there's no way in hell I would ever reply to >>12007246 respectfully, go fuck yourself.
>>12008150Who's asking for respect? Who fucking cares about respect in an argument on this website?God damn you're retarded, nevermind /v/, leave 4chan altogether, this is clearly not the site for you.
>>12006102Correct take.
