Sonic Adventure's original lighting was really ambitious and dynamic, it's a shame they had to downgrade it before launch
>>12011997Should have been a saturn game, just cut the stupid friends from the game and make it solely about Sonic
>>12011997Just looks like they made the environments darker.
>>12013704YEAH, SHENMUE SHOULD HAVE BEEN TOO. WHY THE FUCK DOES THE DREAMCAST EVEN EXIST?
>>12013704Why should it be a shittier game on a worse console?
>>12013718Wow I wish we got shenmue at 240p and 5 FPS. We truly missed out on a system seller for the shiturn.
>>12013718Was Shenmue and Shenmue II originally a single game? That's clearly Ren.
>>12013718we were robbed of the best ngage game ever made
>>12013725Yeah it was
>>12013704>Should have been a saturn gameAbsolutely not, the Saturn had its chance to have its own debut 3D Sonic game and SEGA fumbled it hard. Releasing Adventure for it would have made the game worse and fuck over the Dreamcast even harder.>just cut the stupid friends from the game and make it solely about SonicI do think the other character campaigns are inferior to Sonic's. More resources going towards making Sonic's story longer by adding additional stages would have been preferable.
A lot of things were messed up in incoming ports.. the lightning was the saddest one tho, some places miss the charm without that lightning.>>12013704It started on the saturn, thats Sonic Jam's world, it was like 4 month work. But Sega told them they needed to make a Dreamcast version instead and then worked on that for like 9 months.You still can see Sonic's Jam model in one of the Tornado scenes>>12013725Yes. But the start of Shenmue was something else, it wasnt originally a VF RPG or Shenmue at all.Anyways, Shenmue was always meant to be 1 and 2(including Shenhua in the forest,you can see it in that saturn video). Sega during the Dreamcast said to make 2 games instead. 1 was just the prologue, 2 was the start of the journey and even 2 was meant to have 6 discs but was canned(and they had a part of Guilin done) due to DC's incoming death.https://youtu.be/T-HvBL64Who?si=SjWNL2enLjiRRvfoThis was what sold me on Shenmue. And this was supposed to be from fucking 1998 in some China event which shows both games we got but sightly different, which pretty crazy how much they had done back then.
>>12013720>>12013721>>12014897Nooooooo you don't understand!EVERY SINGLE cancelled or beta version of every game ever made was ALWAYS better than the final version!
>>12015017Oh okay thanks
>>12015009>You still can see Sonic's Jam model in one of the Tornado scenesAnd in the life boxes.
>>12014897>I do think the other character campaigns are inferior to Sonic's.Tails' campaign is just a halved and truncated version of Sonic's, with an upgrade that you're never required to use. Knuckles Amy and Gamma needed more levels. Fuck Big, playing as Big is miserable.The biggest issue was the fact that aside from the Hot Shelter, there weren't any stages that weren't just reused from Sonic's story, so variety was limited.
>>12016068Big is retarded but it does only take like 15 minutes to beat his entire story. It's just a forced mini-game. Gamma's gameplay needed to be entirely reworked. That and Tails/Eggman in SA2 are awful.
>>12013704t. Millennial journalist
>>12016178Millennials don't know what saturn is
It's hilarious how they removed the lighting in the gamecube version and it didn't matter at all
>>12016547SADX GC has specular combined with per pixel lightingMany of the original DC assets are still present on the pre release versionEven the lantern engine. They ported successfully the original lighting system of SA1 into DX but they decided to make a new one in the final releaseSA1 DC both diffuse and specular lighting use color gradients, and specular has a fixed directionSADX GC the specular is view dependent so the highlights rotate when you move the camera but the plastic look is because they crank it up very high
>>12016156NTA but replaying SA1 made me realize Gamma > the SA2 mechs.They just feel clunkier. That's not to say that Gamma handles like a dream, especially compared to the rest of the SA1 cast, but he's managable.
>>12016481Oldest millennials were born in 1981, anon. You're confusing them with zoomers.
KEK what is with these threads. Always using this lighting argument to defend the game like the only reason people shit on the game is because of the re-release lighting. For fuck sake how delusional can you be. The game controls like ass, I'll concede that it's better than SA2 I GUESS, but it's still awful
>>12017382Most millennials still don't know what a saturn is
>>12013704>just cut the stupid friends from the game and make it solely about SonicI thought we left retarded takes like these back in the 2010s.
>>12011997It's a shame they didn't try to get the camera and the collision working properly instead. Even as early as 1999 I could tell the game fucking sucked.
>>12011997Ninja?
>>12011997This is just the final lighting engine with the palette set to greyscale white-to-black, they hadn't implemented the per-area palettes yet.
>>12018713No one cares about Big the Cat
>>12013704Sonic games are cool BECAUSE of the friends. Sonic has almost no moveset of his own.
>>12019020If you do not enjoy fishing minigames, you have no dick. And no soul.
>>12019272>t.guy that wants to fuck sonic's friends
>>12019273Retard. The Big the Cat fishing is garbage compared to most fishing games
