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Reminder that Doom and Quake were always meant to be played with the keyboard only. Nobody even touched the mouse back then.
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>>12018624
I'm gonna play it with a dualshock
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>>12018624
Who the fuck plays Doom with a mouse?
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>>12018624
reminder that the doom manual tells you to use mouse because it's better for aiming
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>>12018629
>Who the fuck plays Doom with a mouse?
The rat king.
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>>12018624
Pictures from 90’s era Quakecon says you’re wrong

Both ways are heckin valid chuddy
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>>12018624
god boomers were insane
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Real men don't need mice!
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>>12018624
Nah that's nerd shit.
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the literal demos on screen use mouse
only poor fags were keyboard only
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Quake doesn't even let you aim vertically without inputting a console command to enable it every time you run the game. If they really designed the game for mouse+keyboard, why did they disable mouselook by default and not even expose a menu option to enable it?
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>>12018624
reminder that you're fucking retarded
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>>12018661
you ain't seen nothing yet
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>>12019465
Mouse aiming/mouse turning is superior whether or not freelook is enabled or not, so it's completely irrelevant
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>>12019434
I love how this specifically nukes OP from orbit
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>>12019412
>only poor fags were keyboard only
This. My mother's PC had no mouse and I have no idea how my past self managed to play and love Doom 2 because I can't do it without a mouse anymore
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>>12019504
OP already knew this. Either he just wanted to show off his silly new webm or hes trying to farm (you)'s
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>>12019497
But mouse forward and back? Give me your address so I can mail you an envelope of my vomit
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>>12018624
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpABUzPN9cU
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>>12019520
toxjq will rape you
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I played through both Doom and Quake on a keyboard first. It makes you feel more vulnerable and you waste more ammo which makes both games play more survival horror-like.
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>>12019474
Now this is podracing
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>>12018624
Controller only.
Dpad only.
Only faggots and little girls need a mouse.
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>>12019680
consoletroon projecting
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>>12019685
PC with a wired controller. Crispy Doom only. UV pistol start no save every level only. What now? I'm curious how faggified your setup is.
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>>12019689
apeshit poser if it's not a gravis gamepad
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>>12018662
and white men cant jump
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>>12018624
and always supposed to be played on a 27" video monitor from the couch
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Has anyone who worked at Id talked about whether there was any consideration for console ports when the initial PC version was being made?
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>>12018624
Mouse became the preferred way during the Quake era.
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>>12019685
How is that a troon? lol
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>>12018624
do you have the full video of this?
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>>12018624
banter aside, back in the christmas of 1998 I first played half life with keyboard controls
I was always a stubborn kid and I grew up playing wolfenstein, doom, and quake with keyboard only
for half life I had a weird "dual stick" thing going on, which I think may have been inspired by freespace or another space sim, my memory is failing me
I definitely also played and finished freespace 1 and 2 with keyboard only
good times
I think it was only a couple of years later when we got a new pc and fast internet that I got into multiplayer and finally caved in and moved on to wasd+mouse
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>>12020435
I played most of Freespace 1 keyboard only, but broke down and got a flight stick, which was SO much better
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>>12018624
nah dude I was there, at least for quake. people absolutely played quake with the mouse and it would've been weird to not use it. original doom, ok yeah probably but definitely not quake.
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>>12018624
People only believe this because the Newgrounds port doesn't use a mouse and it was the way most of their millennial asses first played the game.

I know because I was one of them.
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>>12018624
Doom is much better with mouse + keyboard, mouse look, and a jump button. Dont @ me.
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>>12018661
Or the mouse support back then was shit, laggy and most of the mouses back then were the ones with the ball, you are not going to get a lot of dpi's with a crud caked ball and wheels.

As soon as laser mouses got cheap, the support exploded.
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>>12020285
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7VloCaipZM
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>>12020469
>doom
>mouse look
It's not even a 3d game retard. You're talking about playing doom maps in a completely different engine that isn't even doom anymore.
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>>12019434
>makes OP his bitch
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>>12020627
It feels 3d and that's what matters.
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The right way to play Doom is with a gamepad. Note how the config screen explicitly mentions the Gravis Gamepad.
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>>12020473
Kid, everyone who gave a fuck would play Doom and Quake with a mouse, it was the ONLY way to stand a chance playing deathmatch even back in the day.

Do I miss ball mice? Not in the slightest, but you can just clean the ball and rollers, which is what people did, and you had more than enough DPI to work with. The idea of modern high e-sports autism DPI wasn't entertained and wasn't even remotely necessary, people could and would dominate in deathmatch and beat speedrunning records using a conventional ball mouse.

>>12020926
Is that why the manual for the game explicitly recommends playing the game with mouse and keyboard, you retard?
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>>12020462
Bitch, I'm a millennial and Doom was made readily available to me with mouse and keyboard in like 1998, the amount of people who's only exposure to Doom was the shitty Flash port on Newgrounds would be statistically negligible.
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>>12018624
Romero played with the mouse.
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>>12021064
>>12018624
Romerog Doom. mouse. Obviously you couldn't aim in y axis but you could still aimge is shit. sly you couldn't aim in y axis but you couldD still aiYou could play Wolf3 from the start wih the m with the moth a when they weren't even planning on makinking Doom. mouse. Obvioum wituse. Romero was speedrunning it with a mouse years ago
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>>12018624
correct. if you played it with a mouse, you didn't beat the game.
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>>12021381
I your mom, in deathmatch and IRL, and I used a mouse to do it both times.
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>>12018627
savage
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>>12020462
>Newgrounds port
Based. Doom Triple Pack was kino. Introduced me to Heretic which is now my favorite game of all time.

Keyboard only is a truly different and more intense experience.
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>>12021064
I'm so sick of this stupid lie getting spread everywhere by retards.
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>captcha in the comment field
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>>12021381
Nobody beat the game. John Romero is still alive.
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>>12018624
SOMETHING tells me that OP Is a semem slurp fag and this webm is brittish or canadian, because even fucking brazillians played with mkb
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>>12022317
Romero's demos in Doom and Doom 2 were recorded with a mouse.
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>>12022339
Carmack is a pretty interesting chad/nerd synthesis. I can't think of other examples.
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>>12022390
Sergeant Major Mike Vining of Delta Force looks kind of like Rick Moranis, but that's not really vidya, rather military and spec ops history.
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>>12022390
He has a big head.
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>>12018624
I played it with the mouse, despite not having vertical look.
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>>12022458
That's how the game was designed.



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