This console was a technical piece of shit for the time it came out in. It barely matched the Mega Drive or PC Engine, both of which were much older. They really had no excuse for making such a weak machine so late. It should have absolutely mogged the MD and PCE but a lot of the times it was the other way around.
>>12020451the "snezzz" im I right?
>>12020451Super Nintendo is a GAME machine. If you want tech demos go buy an Amiga.
>>12020458Why did it only have boring baby platformers and snoozefest jarpigs then? where's all that GAMEplay?
More powerful hardware would have made a more expensive console.
>>12020460You have to learn how to be independent and look for these things yourself.
>>12020460True action skill based games like Contra 3, MM X, and Castlevania IV couldn't even function on MD and PCE.
>>12020451Enhancement chips.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Super_NES_enhancement_chips
>>12020475>console library so bad you have to shovel heaps of shit to find anything good in itI see you've conceded then
>moggedStopped reading there
>>12020478>Contra 3Mogged by Hard Corps>MM XMogged by Alien Soldier>Castlevania IVMogged by BloodlinesAnd that's just the MD. The PCE had the uncucked version of Dracula X, which is just embarassing for Nintendo
>>12020484lol noob get pwnd
>>12020457Why does this bother Yankees so much?
>>12020478>three platformers
>>12020451>>12020451>>12020451>JRPG machine. There are some excellent platformers on the super famicom, but they all play a lot more slowly than most platformers on say.. the megadrive. Though some developers made some absolutely amazing looking games for the console, it did suffer from being an rpg system first, as opposed to an arcade port experience.
>>12020451It's a serious flaw yeah. What are you gonna do about it? Will you sue Nintendo? You'd better send them a stern letter. Update us on what you do to make them pay for this, anon! It's gonna be really cool
it has pretty colors and transparencies
>>12020485Bloodlines and Hard Corps are bordering on bootleg tier. The praise for them is ridiculous, low standards.
>>12020489I'm Aussie and it bothers me. It's fucking Sness, with an s. Where does the fucking z come from?
>>12020676Where does the 'aur' come in 'no'? Retarded kangaroo cunt
>>12020676Are you indian or chinese?
>>12020481I'm not a fucking "TELL ME WHAT TO PLAY" person, I find what I want to play and don't fucking shitpost about hardware.
>>12020720>t. Vikram taking up housing
>>12020583Make your trolling more subtle next time
>>12020760Then why did you come into this thread? What were you hoping to find here?
>2.68 mhz>in 1991Embarrassing.
How did a console released by a company from Kyoto break a bongie's psyche so hard 35 years later?
super nintendo bad
>Stop liking Nintendo!>STOP LIKING NINTENDO!>DO YOU WANT TO MAKE ME CRY?>WHY ARE YOU STILL LIKING NINTENDO?>I'M TELLING YOU TO STOP LIKING NINTENDO NOW!
>>12020896Have you seen how fragile and brittle it is?
>>12020460cause the youtube told u so
>>12020451>This console was a technical piece of shit for the time it came out inTrue, but what really matters is the games, not the hardware. Which is why it's important to point out that the SNES also had a really underwhelming games library too.
>>12020457Everyone said Super Nintendo. Parents called it Nintendo.
>>12020451A lot of the problems could have been solved with an extra megahertz and a half and not doing that weird slow rom/fast rom thing.
You convinced me. I stopped liking it now.
>>12020676I also say it with an ending S, and am totally fucking American.Who in the fuck says it with a Z?
>>12022438Yup, guess I'll stop thinking FF4 is the best game ever (not).
>>12020797To call OP a fag, obviously.
>>12022452Nobody uses a zThat is some autist nazi/russian online spelling thing
>>12022436it could have been avoided all together, by simply giving up on backwards compatibility much sooner. simply give up trying to emulate the sound chip and shove in a generic 68000, like everything else.tho I do find it amusing, that coders managed to do what nintendo couldn't entirely in software and running on their slow as shit cpu.
>>12020451I'm guessing the games on the MD and PCE aren't that good since instead of playing them you'd rather seethe about the SNES for a whole thread.
>>12020451idk, the CPU is downright embarrassingly slow, but the rest of the hardware is pretty nice.
>>12020485>uncucked Dracula Xyeah, the SNES version is inexcusable, considering the PCE was basically an 8-bit console on steroids
>>12020451damn wish i could go back in time and tell kid me that the specs ackshually sucked
>>12020451It's perfectly fine, OP. Sure, SEGA had "blast processing" and a lot of neat things with its hardware, but the SNES was competent enough for the generation, and we got some beautiful and technically impressive stuff from it. I mean, the "console war" of the 90's is over, you can enjoy both, preferring one without bringing the other one down, just play.t. SEGA fag.
>>12023150>the rest of the hardware is pretty niceThe rest of the hardware was equally bottlenecked.>only 16 kbs VRAM can be used on sprites>DMA is slow and can only be used outside vblank, meaning both less speed and bandwidth>only 2 sprite sizes available, meaning large objects had to be build from many smaller sprites, slower and inefficient for an already overburdened CPU>only 8 kbs RAM can be reached without bank switching>32 khz audio, resulting in a common muffled sound>all sound has to fit in 64 kbs, resulting in further audio degradationMany of these flaws are intrinsic to the hardware and cannot be bypassed with expansion chips. The many sprite limitations, for instance, is equally a part of why many beat them up games only had 3 simultaneous enemies, along with the slow CPU. These hardware bottlenecks are a main reason for why there has been virtually zero interest in making SNES games by homebrew developers.>>12023696>you can enjoy both, preferring one without bringing the other one downAfter we spent decades being derided by SNES drones for having "bad graphics" and "fart music", no, I will gladly bring down the SNES on every occasion, especially now that it is widely known that the Mega Drive (and many other 16-bit hardwares) actually has far better hardware. I also find it hard to "enjoy both" when there is shockingly little to actually enjoy on the SNES. The library of noteworthy titles is extremely slim, and despite the total number of games, there's basically nothing to discover. It's an immensely overrated console with a largely poor library and terrible hardware.
>>12023840You lost Sega fag in popular culture the SNES is widely considered the best console with many of it's games topping list of best games of all time
>>12023848>many of it's games topping list of best games of all time>it's Mario, Zelda, Metroid yet againDon't you guys get sick of playing the same shit nonstop?>list of best games of all time>lists that have Ocarina of Time in the #1 spotI don't really care what you're lists have to say.
>>12020451US version looks like such a fucking toy.
>>12020484See>>12020485
>>12020489We call it the Super Nintendo because we aren't third worlders.
>>12022404Compared to what?The Sega Genesis. That was the competition. Go bust out DKC and tell me it wasn't groundbreaking for it's time. I mean, you wanted to have a Genesis because of Holden Ace and Toejam n Earl but there weren't any kids saying no to either system.Console wars really started with Microsoft and Sony.
>>12023902>Console wars really started with Microsoft and Sony.No? Genesis vs SNES was a real thing, and don't forget the 1st gen Intellivision/Coleco/Atari arguments(When I was in junior high, Genesis was the cool console, SNES was the lame one your grandma probably got for you where Mortal Kombat didn't have any blood.)
>>12023862>toy looks like a toy>what were they thinking
>>12023902SNES doesn't have a single game as good as M.U.S.H.A.
>>12024087Clearly not much.
Console warring is so sad.None of you like video game, you just want to defend the console your parents could afford.Idorts win, as always.>Nooo! But I was an idort too! I just like to spend a lot of time hating on one of the consoles i owned!Sure
>>12024208>only positive opinions allowed!
>>12020489Because it sounds like you're on the zed x spectrum.
>>12024310it's not an issue with forced positivity, it's that if you enjoy video games but say a library as vast and deep as either the genesis' or the snes' is entirely devoid of great experiences, you're an unserious retard
>>12020451>the year of our lord>not enjoying all systems>>12024208>Console warring is so sadThis. And with emulation and roms existing and being broadly available there's literally no excuse.
>>12022452>Who in the fuck says it with a Z?>>12022693>Nobody uses a zhttps://files.catbox.moe/mzx276.mp4
>>12024310>console war goodThe retard new depths of neo-/vr/
>>12024840A lot of people here don't actually like retro games that much and practically the only appeal for them is nostalgia for the console they owned as a kidThey're not interested in anything they can't have nostalgia for
>>12024932i think this is true to some extent but nah, most of /vr/'s new userbase is really young. I think it's just modern /v/ kids applying their modern console wars into retro
The failings of the SNES were meant to be solved by the CD add-on. When that fell through, sure, the console was a half-baked piece of shit. But hey, it had Nintendo on it, so it was "da best".
>>12024208I had a MD when I was 5 and played most of the SNES games when I was about 12 through emulators. Ironically, the console I played last, the PCE, which I only really started exploring in my 30s, was clearly the best console of the generation. The SNES is still the worst, being filled with boring children's games like Mario, mediocre JRPGs, and a handful of decent games like Super Metroid. The only people who complain about console warring are Nintendo fans who absolutely despise the idea of anyone preferring a different console, because Nintendo fans have cult like reverence for their awful children's games. They're like the male version of Disney women.
>>12025068You just sound like a guy who has Nintendo rent free inside of his mind, on top of having "mature gamer" syndrome. I agree with >>12024840
>>12025068>Nintendo fans who absolutely despise the idea of anyone preferring a different consoleThere's a difference between preferring another console, and claiming the Super Nintendo is bad.You can keep crying "kiddy! kiddy!", but you won't convince people to stop liking a universally acclaimed console.Also cult fans are also on sega and sony, and other brands. You just have to learn to ignore them, but being so adamantly anti-nintendo isn't really that different than being a nintendo fanboy, two sides of the same coin, both obsessed.You can enjoy a console like the Super Nintendo without being a Nintendo fan and it's funny I have to explain this to you.
>>12025082"Mature gamer" syndrome is deeply funny to me. It's actually the exact inverse of what you think it is.Real gamers grew up playing Dig Dug, a colorful childish game about popping cute looking characters like balloons. This, according to Nintendo fans, is a very mature game for mature gamers. Why, exactly? Well, because the game has challenge. The cute looking characters kill you if they touch you. What, then, is the actual crux of the argument? Challenge. Nintendo gamers despise challenge, they flee from it like rats on a sinking ship. They want trivial story games with no thought required, hold right to win.>>12025095I hate Nintendo because the fans of Nintendo are delusional, and overrate games that really aren't very good. Mario bros 3 is held up as some kind of golden standard, instead of a dull casual game for children. >appeal to fameYes, the SNES was critically acclaimed. You know what else is critically acclaimed? Every shitty Madden and FIFA game, every cawadoody and battlefield. Clearly, as these games are very popular, they must be near perfect according to you. Why can't you develop your own opinions instead of relying on the opinions of others?
>>12025109Keep warring against Nintendo, soldier.
>>12025109>This, according to Nintendo fans, is a very mature game for mature gamers. Why, exactly? Well, because the game has challenge. The cute looking characters kill you if they touch you.Where does this come from?This whole post is surreal. Anti-Nintendo delusions are real.Also nice redditspacing lol
>>12023902>Go bust out DKC and tell me it wasn't groundbreaking for it's time.The CGI sprites were a goddamn abomination and almost as bad as the AI garbage we get today.
Bump because this should be common knowledge. The words "SNES" should be equated to "shitty, slow, bottlenecked hardware" and "lacklustre games library" in the public's mind. There should be a sticky on this forum stating simply stating:>SNES>2.68 mhz>in 1991Just as a continuous reminder of how embarrassingly poor this console was.>>12023902>Go bust out DKC and tell me it wasn't groundbreaking for it's time.Everything Donkey Kong did was done in far better fashion and earlier by David Perry games such as Aladdin (Mega Drive version) or Earthworm Jim. The only people impressed by Donkey Kong were those who were so deep in the Nintendo echo chamber that they had never seen those games.>>12025095>There's a difference between preferring another console, and claiming the Super Nintendo is bad.There is, but it's quite natural to prefer another console when the SNES is bad on an objective level.>universally acclaimed consoleFor what? Mario, Zelda, Metroid. Same shit as any other Nintendo console. Nobody actually gives a shit about the SNES itself, or any of it's other games, they just like the same couple Nintendo games that they would like irregardless of what console it was on. Mega Drive and PC Engine enjoys threads with people sharing and enjoying dozens of incredible titles. Meanwhile, you SNES drones have trouble naming more than 5 without resorting to shit-tier filler and hoping nobody notices.>>12025068>They're like the male version of Disney women.Beautifully stated.
>>12025068Ironic
>>12026490You convinced me. I will now stop liking all these Capcom, Konami, Natsume, Irem, Taito, etc games because you reminded me that the SNES has an on paper spec number set that's low!In fact, screw retro, all retro consoles are too low on on-paper specs, I will now exclusively play on the most modern, latest CPU available on the market. And I will accept no game that doesn't require those specs!
>>12026490>Everything Donkey Kong did was done in far better fashion and earlier by David Perry gamesAnon, I love Sega and used to be an anti-Nintendo warrior before turning idort. But you're almost sounding like a nintendrone falseflagging as a sega fan with those flamewar bait posts.
>>12026661>CapcomMMX is good (would've been better on Mega Drive)>KonamiDidn't make anything worthwhile on SNES (great games on Mega Drive and PC Engine though)>NatsumeDidn't make anything worthwhile on SNES>IremDidn't make anything worthwhile on SNES, yes that's including R-Type 3 which suffers extreme slowdowns and becomes a boring slog after a relatively impressive first stage>TaitoDidn't make anything worthwhile on SNES (great PC Engine games though)>NamcoMIA>HudsonDidn't make anything worthwhile on SNES (incredible PC Engine titles though)>JalecoDidn't make anything worthwhile on SNES>SquareSoftDidn't make anything worthwhile at all prior to FF7Did I miss anyone? inb4 you post a shit list full of games you've never played to try to "prove me wrong">>12026668>flamewar bait postsYet you couldn't retort a single thing I've said.
>>12026805>didn't make any worthwhile you convinced me.
