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>franchise peaks in its third instalment
Why is this so rare in vidya
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>>12022379
considering HGSS exists this is a poor example
>b-b-but that's not retro
it's still by far the best one. emerald is a close second though
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>>12022379
>peaked
third gen is garbage and made me think i had outgrown pokémon until gen 4 came out.
gens 1 and 2 both utterly mogged this piece of shit generation, and the only good that came o it is some of the new mons.certainly not even all of the new ones, the starters are all trash.
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>>12022383
>it's still by far the best one
>emerald is a close second
...
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>>12022379
not as rare as you'd think.
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i've never met anyone who thought that RSE was the peak
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>>12022412
That's weird, it's a pretty popular opinion. The ones people usually consider the best are either Crystal, Emerald, or HGSS
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>>12022379
In a first sequel you get to see what went wrong the first time and attempt to fix it, you throw in ideas you initially had but for one reason or another didn't come to be, the success of the first game grants you more resources/budget, essentially you try to repeat the first game but "bigger and better"
In the third game it becomes a "how do we keep this going?" situation. All the ideas had previously been fully realized, you feel the pressure to spice it up and make something different because more of the same will no longer cut it but whatever additions you feel like adding are too far detached from the original essence
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>>12022412
I thought it was the best gen when it came out, and I still like it the most.
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>>12022379
Because you posted a bad example. Pokemon peaked at its 5th installment.
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>>12022419
Crystal is most popular with millenial pokeautists.
Emerald is most popular with zoomer pokeautists.
Gen 1 or a remake of it is most popular with normalfags no matter what year they were born.
Zoomer pokeautists stopped liking HGSS because youtubers told them it wasn't good. In a rare case of broken clocks being correct, the youtubers weren't lying. Gen 2 is a trainwreck if you look past the nostalgia filter, and HGSS never fixed the worst problems. GSC might be the most poorly balanced RPG that millions of people have actually played. The worst final fantasy and dragon quest games don't even come close to being as boring, tedious, and poorly designed.
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>>12022379
Dragon Quest, Elder Scrolls, Super Mario, Shin Megami Tensei...
>>12022609
BW1 sucks, the first shitty pokemon game
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>>12022385
>gen 2
>mogging anything
Slow as fuck, terrible babyfied dex, tiny region that relies on Kanto to be a full game.
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>>12022619
>HGSS never fixed the worst problems
their fix was adding level 50 magikarps after the 4th gym so you can ignore the shitty level curve and skip the terrible pacing
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>Region design
2 > 1 > 3
>New pokemon introduced
1 > 2 > 3
>Music
3 > 2 > 1
>Graphics
2 > 3 > 1
Postgame
3 > 2 > 1
Characters/Story
2 > 1 > 3
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>>12022379
Fallout
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>>12022641
Fallout Tactics was pretty cool.
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do people here really think emerald beats platinum or even hgss?
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>>12022667
Sinnoh fucking sucks as a region and the gen 4 engine is shit
Also gen 3 BF > gen 4 BF
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>>12022674
>BF
WHO CARES
>random walrien with a quick claw uses sheer cold that hits 99% of the time wasting 5 hours of progress for nothing
Wow such a fun mechanic and interesting rngfest.
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>>12022775
You learn Walrein has Sheer Cold so you counter it
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>>12022609
Not retro
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>>12022634
hi yawnie
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Halo
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>>12024135
no
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>>12022775
>WHO CARES
battle frontier is the only reason pokemon emerald is actually a good game and not in the "derivative product" pile with everything else that came after it.
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>>12024148
battle frontier, contests, and any other stupid side content is garbage and the idea of adding them is what ruined the entire series.
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>>12022383
HGSS was a missed opportunity to fix the clusterfuck that was Johto
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>>12022619
>Emerald is most popular with zoomer pokeautists.
Zoomers generally prefer Platinum or BW2, Emerald is in a weird spot with the niche ends of late millennials and very early zoomers having it as their favourite
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>>12024171
well then you must be really happy with how the new games are going, because they're cutting everything from them, even the pokemon. wouldn't be surprised if gen 10 doesn't even have a battle tower.
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>>12022385
>>12022383
gen 2/johto sucks dick
>>12024171
yeah you mean like shinies, genders, gay apricorn balls that don’t even work, waiting hours for encounters to become available because it isn’t night time, and waiting days for the rng the bug catching contest? stupid faggot
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>>12022385
Yep, RSE are extremely low quality games.
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>>12024171
You're the reason pokemon is shit now
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>>12022385
I started with Gen 1 and found RSE to be extremely enjoyable. It was Gen 4 that made me lose interest due to it being so boring.
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>>12024215
unfortunately this guy is
>>12024205
that other guy wasnt helping though
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>>12024228
Me too, but I enjoyed gen4 alright just couldn't get into gen5 long enough to care. Should probably get on that.
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>>12022412
I knew a subtard once that loved sapphire, had almost completed the Dex but then he sold it to EB for 7 dollars
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>>12023540
Yawnie loves gen 2
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>>12022609
You must be 19
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>>12022619
Care to elaborate? I'm actually interested
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>>12022623
Warcraft 3, gta 3… a lot of series hit their peak at 3
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>>12024525
Was he mentally ill?
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>>12024205
>I have to LE WAIT?!?!
>nooo my TikTok poisoned brain needs it NOW!
>GIVE ME MY POKEMANS GAMEFREAK!

catering to people like you ruined the series
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>>12025483
>>GIVE ME MY POKEMANS GAMEFREAK!
Yeah that was what all Johtards were doing when based Hoenn annexed most of their moeshit monsters.
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>>12025993
That has nothing to do with what I’m talking about. You’re just reaching for a random response.
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>>12025993
Bait aside, people bitching about night/day pokemon are like people bitching they have to wait for the right time to catch snorunt.

They are both retarded and want everything granted to them on a silver platter not realizing doing so would make those pokemon less special.
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>>12026000
Johto was the defacto Tiktok generation by pandering to woman and tailoring to the anime makers.
Your region was never good in the first place.
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>>12026021
Last time I checked hoenn started the gay contest shit.
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>>12026019
What's even funnier is that the mechanic wasn't even remotely good until the DS generation came in.
It's only dicksucked because "muh aesthetics" which is basically jingling keys to total retards.
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>>12026028
Last time I checked johto started the gay baby and pool toy shit.
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>>12026038
Wtf are you talking Sinnog didn't do anything differently with it.
S/M made the best use of it.
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>>12022383
>considering HGSS
Lol
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>hoenn champion be like
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>gay
We got some hardlined Male Tamagotchi fans here
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>>12026052
Emeraldsisters.....
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>>12026052
>Anon never heard of dandies
Retvrn to /vp/
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>>12026060
Digimon was where all the OG Genwunners went until FRLG and Gen 4 dropped in
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>>12026071
No normie give a single fuck about digimon
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>>12026104
>normie
Your definition of normalfag is outdated.
We're not talking about nu-Pokemon consoomers. At least Genwunner consumers played the games.
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>>12026052
Why did you post the fujoshit redesign instead of the original?
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>>12026620
No one back then give a shit about Digimon unless it was about the anime, ZOOM ZOOM
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After all this time I have yet to hear a genuine criticism with HGSS that isn't just calling one of its strengths a weakness
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>>12026630
He still looks like a faggot

>>12026651
>but I have to wait till night to get nocturnal pokemon and that’s le bad
>I WANT THEM NOW
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>>12026651
Is charging full price for the same game a strength now?
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>>12026660
That's like what pokemon as a series does
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>>12026663
so because a series does something bad it becomes ok? The pokemon series doesnt need to be a long lineage of remakes.
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>>12026660
>implying
hgss is such a massive upgrade on gsc it's not even funny
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>>12026682
I like remakes, frlg makes RBY obsolete unless you want to play stadium legitimately
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>>12026683
>>12026685
liking a remake doesnt excuse the fact that its the same game. remaking the same game is creatively bankrupt and it doesnt deserve to be compared to games that actually do something new.
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>>12026694
RBY has only 151 pokemon and doesn't has abilities or steel types, and much more

It's not the same game boomer.

Even if you played frlg I would recommend playing rb because of the funny sprites

Most games that do have remakes its worth play both version if you like the game.
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>>12026712
>RBY has only 151 pokemon and doesn't has abilities or steel types, and much more
>It's not the same game boomer.
this is so fucking funny. magnemite is weak to fire now its a new game guys! squirble gains 10% water damage when hes about to die the game is different now!
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>>12026694
Pokefags always defend remakes, even on a site like this which is generally anti-remake
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>>12026727
Objectively it is.
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>>12026731
I've actually noticed that /v/ will shit relentlessly on remakes while ironically this board loves them for some reason. They are explicitly against the rules and are still allowed here.
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>>12026738
Maybe I'm not visiting at the right times but I don't see much remake love here outside of pokemon and resident evil
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>>12026738
They’re literally allowed in the rules retard
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>>12026738
Pokemon threads shouldn't be allowed here. Most of the posters are banned /vp/ refugees.
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>>12026738
they are not against the rules and they never were, learn to read
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>>12026786
>>12026807
>This board is for the discussion of classic, or "retro" games, including consoles, computer games, arcade games (including pinball) and any other forms of video games. Retro gaming means platforms launched in 2001 and earlier, and official game titles for those platforms released no later than December 2007 (homebrew console games made after this date will be permitted). The Microsoft Xbox, Nintendo GameCube, Nintendo Game Boy Advance, and Sony PlayStation 2 will now be considered "retro".

Point out where in the rules it says a nintendo ds game is allowed to be talked about here, let alone a 2025 remake on the PS6.
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>>12022383
i like hg/ss as much as anyone but not having the crystal pokemon distribution hurt it
i get the safari zone mitigates that somewhat but the safari zone is annoying to deal with
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>>12026801
There's zero reason retro pokemon threads shouldn't be allowed here. They're here for the same reason this board exists in the first place- discussion of retro Pokemon games is virtually impossible on /vp/ the same way discussion of retro games was virtually impossible on /v/. Stop being a retard and ignore the threads if you don't like them.
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>>12026817
>discussion of retro Pokemon games is virtually impossible on /vp/
What way is that, nostalgia posting? There's plenty of that on /vp/ too.
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>>12026929
/vp/ is just coomposting, shitting on Gen 1, and arguing about the latest gens



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