>SNES was mainly for RPGs and Genesis was mainly for shmups and sports games!Meanwhile, back in actual retro times, in the real world, away from disrupted modern midwit revisionism, action side-scroller platformers were the main type of games people played, on both consoles alike.
>>12032113Word. The revisionism and zoomerism online is unreal. "This platform has only 12 good games" (lists Nintendie redditcore titles) dude you haven't even played any others how would you know whether they are good or not?
>>12032113if someone said "is" instead of "was", would your autistic self be fine with that? stop literally revising the definition of revisionism, idk what e-celeb you morons got that from but god it's the stupidest shit on here recently apart from those forced elephant/dead dad memes. go read the webster dictionary or something.
>>12032125Gonna play devil's advocate a bit and say it's not just zoomers. Even people who were actually alive back then got lost somewhere along the road, paying more attention to modern processed data and clickbait youtube videos about "the history of [console]" instead of remembering their own memories of the past, like zombies they regurgitate wikipedia articles and eceleb opinions.People NEED to categorize stuff and WANT things to be divided in "groups", so you get to the modern conclusion that people who had SNES only ever played RPGs and people who had Genesis only ever played sports games.In reality, both SNES and Genesis kids in the 90s were playing Konami tiny toon games and Joe & Mac. But I guess talking about kids in the 90s enjoying timeless platformers doesn't give enough views.
>>12032137True. Similar has happened with TTRPGs (OSR) where even the old DnD players have forgotten how they actually used to play the games and millennials have written books and made videos on "the real old DnD play style" with their revisionist take and everyone accepts it as true.
>>12032137When I was young, I could tell you what genre a game was, and name other games of that genre, but I couldn't tell you there are X amount of games of that genre on a specific console or the games of that genre are absolutely better on a console. I mean .. except I'd rather play a fighting game on a SNES or Playstation than a Mega Drive or N64 because of the controllers.
>>12032162I think the N64 controllers feels pretty decent for fighting games since you can use the c buttons in combination with a and b as a sort of six button layout.
>>12032113This is a confused understanding.The fact is that if you really liked RPGs you went SNES over Genesis, same as going for PS1 over N64. The percentage of people who like RPGs that much is low overall, but possibly overrepresented in online discussions of these systems.
>>12032217Nobody is saying that SNES doesn't have RPGs or that nobody played RPGs in the 90s, but the narrative is completely skewed and shows a different picture than how it actually was back then. And the most scary thing is that people who actually experienced those times first-hand seem to get brainwashed by modern media narratives in a sort of brainwashing way.
>>12032257I don't think you're following me because I don't think you were saying that, but you're absorbing multiple POVs are confusing yourself by trying to construct a cohesive narrative out of disparate accounts and sales data. Who is saying what matters. People who were alive then who are jRPG fans did prefer SNES over Genesis and PS1 over N64, those people don't speak for everyone, they are just overrepresented in online discussion.. These are the facts, what other people think or come up with about it doesn't matter.
>>12032113That kind of mentality comes from taking online console warring seriously or the only source of knowledge from those consoles.
>>12032270>People who were alive then who are jRPG fans did prefer SNES over Genesis and PS1 over N64The minority that was alive back then AND were into RPGs before FF VII/Pokemon are not the people I'm talking about.I'm talking about guys who were alive back then, had either SNES, Genesis or both, and played the games most people were playing (platformers/sidescrollers), but over the years if consuming so much "video game historian" YouTube essays they were convinced that they always liked SNES because of RPGs, even if they didn't play any back then (or the other way around, people who claim to dislike the SNES because "all it had was RPGs").
>>12032217I don't think we owned any SNES RPGs. No No Dragon Quest, no Final Fantasy, no Chrono Trigger, no Breath of Fire. But we had Phantasy Star 2 and Sword of Vermilion.
Just play the fucking games and fuck off with your fake schoolyard tribalism about old toys.
>>12032645what OP is proposing is the opposite of tribalism, no?
>>12032137>>12032143It's why you see the big Nintendo Narrative these days. The American centered internet shoving along and going "THIS is what video game history is, THAT doesn't count. THESE games are the ones that everyone loves, not THOSE games."
>>12032663It has nothing to do with Nintendo, in fact Nintendo barely localized their own RPGs back then (Fire Emblem for example, didn't come out on SNES).It's not about your brand/regional wars, schizo, it's about people in general replacing their memories with processed data.
>>12032113Every console was just for playing Street Fighter 2 back then. It was the only game that mattered.
>>12032137Infact the console I didn't played a lot when I was litte, i was 6 and 7 when I had the Genesis, then changed to the PS1, infact loooking the retro console video of now and comparing to today, my memories of even friends like everyone with a Megadrive had Sonic, I had sonic too, but never had a sports game or even my friends. Game I remember that I owned at the time was, Sonic, Terminator the arcade game, The punisher arcade and the last one was one of my favorite and introduced me to the Punisher character.I remember that I wasn't the only one to own the Punisher cartige, then by watching some youtubers talked about how they all played Punisher on Megadrive when they were kids, maybe the games even change from country to country, I'm Italian and from what I remember every italian who had a Megadrive had Punisher and Sonic while who had a PS1 everyone had at least a copy of metal Gear 1 and a random Disney game usually Hercules. But when I watch retro gamers from US or UK everytime they talk about the same games and points like infact the always referenced "RPGS vs Sports"
>>12032929Yeah this is my experience with the snes. It was sf2 and platformers. I don't think any kid gave a shit about rpgs for the nes or snes. This didn't start until the pokemon craze. I have to wonder if that's ultimately responsible for ff7 blowing up the next year. Like I had final fantasy legend but I did not like it (still dont) and no kid really gave a shit about this genre.
>>12032929>>12032961Yep, outside of the popular platformers I think the most popular genres were fighting (SF2, Killer Instinct) and a few racing games (Top Gear, RRR), the only shmup I ever saw as a kid wasn't even on the Genesis it was Aero Fighters on SNES
>>12033182>it was Aero Fighters on SNESFunny, a game so rare it goes for like a thousand dollars now. Pretty good port too, it kept the 2p intact, something which most shmup ports failed to do, even on Genesis.
>>12032113>that picBased.
>>12032961I know that I started playing RPG's with FF7 and then bought some used ones for the SNES later. I think a lot of people who played RPGs on the SNES did so in the late 90's early 00's when the genre became more well known.
I still don't find any SEGA game appealing enough to bother playing though, I did play Sparkster and Contra HC, mostly because there are Sparkster and Contra games on the SNES :(
>>12032113It’s mostly snoy propaganda to present playstation as “saving the industry from juvenile Asians”
>>12032137To be fair though, the constant re-release of old Sega games (most of which are first party) probably have made people unfairly stigmatize the system as though those were the only worthwhile titles on the systemAnd I say this as someone who owns and loves his Genesis
Times change grampa.Maybe kids back then played kiddie platformers but modern adults prefer RPGs and sports games.Also anything pre-6th gen is too badly aged for me.
I had a snes and a sega genesis. I think I had like 4 sega games, just cause we only had Nintendo power and I had no idea what was on sega. Sonic the hedgehog, which is didn’t like. Streets of Rage 2 which I loved. Golden Axe which was ok. And DJ Kid which I got from my cousin and I think he had it cause he was racist.
I got a lot of the RPGs for the snes, my brother got it taken away (from both of us) multiple times because he would stay up all night playing Chrono trigger or secret of mana and then falling asleep in school. Which is weird cause I only remember him getting platformers or movie games.
>>12034032I doubt any adult gives a shit about random sports game #429 1997 edition
>>12032301>I'm talking about guys who were alive back then, had either SNES, Genesis or both, and played the games most people were playing (platformers/sidescrollers), but over the years if consuming so much "video game historian" YouTube essays they were convinced that they always liked SNES because of RPGsAh, people who don't exist.
>>12032642We owned many RPGs on NES, SNES, and PC. More than any other genre.
>>12032113>SNES was mainly for RPGsRPG's and Platformers mostly. Square and Enix basically gave the SNES the reputation of being an RPG machine. Most of the early SNES shmups were riddled with slowdown compared to their Genesis and even TG-16 counterparts. The system still has some good action titles. >>12032113>shmups and sports games!Arcade ports and sports games. The early Genesis was mostly just arcade ports and sports titles. Yeah, there were exceptions to this rule. But the machine was practically advertised as an arcade machine at home, before Sonic 1 was released. Sports games generally played better on the Genesis, though once devs figured out the SNES hardware, I could easily say that later sports games were much closer to each other.
https://felipepepe.medium.com/the-gentrification-of-video-game-history-dfe11f1e08ae
>>12034129>arcade portsPeople forget about this one now that you can just as emulate the arcade game as the port. But one of segas big selling points up to the Dreamcast was arcade ports.
>>12034130lmao butthurt third world RPG Codex faggot who runs shitty polls and writes shitty books. Sup Felipe.
>>12032642SNES RPG's: -Final Fantasy series- Mana series- Illusion of Gaia- Star Ocean- Breath of Fire series- Dragon Quest- Ogre Battle- Super Mario RPG- Chrono Trigger - Lufia series- Romancing Saga- Earthbound- Shadowrun- Zelda : Link to the Past (If you want to call it one) - Secret of Evermore- Y's gamesGenesis/ MD and Sega CD- Phantasy Star (main series)- Shining Force (strategy RPG) - Warsong (strategy RPG) - Y's games- Shining in the Darkness, (dungeon crawler)- Starflight:(CRPG)- Buck Rogers (CRPG)- Sword of Vermilion- Landstalker (action RPG)- Light Crusader:(action RPG)- Beyond Oasis:(action RPG)- Crusader of Centy (action RPG) - Lunar 1 and 2 (Sega CD) - Vey (Sega CD)- Shining Force CD (Sega CD) - Popful Mail(Sega CD) I would say the Genesis was more geared towards action RPG's, strategy RPG's and CRPG's, while the SNES was full of JRPG's. The Sega CD had a few good RPG's. But back in the day it was like a $250-$300 attachment.
>>12034179>SNES RPG's>Star Ocean>Dragon Quest>Romancing Saga>Zelda : Link to the Past (If you want to call it one) lol>Genesis was more geared towards CRPG'sUltimaMight and MagicEye of the BeholderDungeon MasterDrakkhen
>>12034129>Sports games generally played better on the Genesis, though once devs figured out the SNES hardware, I could easily say that later sports games were much closer to each other.The First Madden on the Genesis/ MD vs the first Madden on the SNES: https://youtu.be/afuCqZoARwUFIFA:https://youtu.be/nXX_otnUqlQNHL '94: https://youtu.be/oNvaLtIwsCIThough I have to admit, EA was getting much better with the SNES hardware by the time NHL '94 was released. The SNES version as not a bad game. But the Genesis game just ran better. This is not even an isolated thing with EA games. The Motorola 68000 was a better CPU for sports games overall. By the time developers were getting better performance out of the SNES, the 32-bit machines were already rolling into the market. from 1989 - 1994 The Genesis/ MD was the go-to system for anything sports related.
I remember NBA Jam and ISSS being better on SNES than on Genesis, but then again those are the only 2 sports games I cared about back then. It's true that, while normies might have had a Fifa or Madden game, it's not really the first thing that comes to mind when I remember the retro era, SNES or Genesis alike. Platformers were definitely the main genre, with fighting games as the de facto other main genre thanks to the revolution started by SFII and Mortal Kombat.
