Did you like BLACK?
>Making FPSes that were console exclusiveHow grim was PC gaming back then?
fun to play thru once
>>12034294I think I recorded this years ago.>>12034307This, it's a good time. Top 5 console shooter.
>>12034294Got all the collectibles on the hardest setting. Game is 7/10, but the graphics are awesome for the Ps2. Had way more fun playing Urban Chaos, though.
>>12034295Games for Windows/Live almost killed PC gaming for good and Steam was dogshit until around 2008 or so.
>>12034294It was amazing on xbox
>>12034294I played it once at a friend's and it always stuck with me, so the gameplay must've been at least solid. It's on my list to pick up sometime.
>>12034294no
>>12034294Unironically my wife's favorite fps game
>>12034342how big is her penis?
>console exclusive fpsimagine jerking off an analog stick just so you can have less fun doing something the wrong way
>>12034342oh no no no
>>12034346kek
>>12034346
>>12034294the unskippable intro cutscene haunts my dreams
>>12034917Yeah the OP makes me want to boot it up but I dont have a save so nah
>>12034317>Top 5 console shooter.Not in a world where Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, the Timesplitters series, the Turok series, and Metroid Prime 1 and 2 all exist.Hell, if third-person shooters count, add Jet Force Gemini, SOCOM, Ratchet Deadlocked. and MechAssault.
>>12034294Literally the only good thing about BLACK is the graphics. The shooting feels like ass and the actual game feels extremely light.
>>12034294BLACK would be 10/10 if they reduced the enemy health to a third of what it is. Fuckers took a trillion shots to kill.>>12034980Shooting feels incredible and and the shotgun mogs every shotgun in gaming history including FEAR's.
Probably the best explosion effects I've seen in a video game, they are amazing.I really enjoy the freedom of movement some levels also offered, it is quite unique for a FPS of that era which tended to be extremely gated and linear.As with every FPS from the 00's that belong to the>Actually FPS games are serious mature business now!!!!subgenre, it suffers from taking itself too seriously to the point the story can get cringe because you can tell how the devs were desperate to try and sound mature and intelligent; and also because, a common flaw of this subgenre, all enemies are humans which results in lack of enemy variety>Look, we added body armor to enemies for the late game! That totally makes it like a boss fight right?So in short, it suffers because it came out in the 00's, as most games that came out in the 00's did, but for the time it does some things really well. Yeah I know this is going to piss off the 6th gen babies on this board.
Aiming felt pretty good for a ps2 game (unlike lets say MOH Frontline).Black had few flaws, but they are really annoying when you get into the gam>checkpoints are too far inbetween, sometimes you will lose half an hour of progress if you die>bullet sponge enemies get old fast>horrible unskippable cutscenes inbetween missionsHaving to mag dump into an enemy's head in order to kill him takes away all the oomph from the gunplay
>>12034294Fucking hell do console shooters really play like that with the stiff decrepit 90 year old man aiming? Grim
>>12035376>>12035034>bullet sponge enemiesCommon complain by people who need ot learn to get good and pull headshots
I played it back when it came out for the PS2, I do remember being impressed by the visuals but considering the richness of games on offer around 2005-2006 it didn't really stand out to me at all
>>12034294i've tried to play it a few times and hated it, it's pure jank that only sold because of the visuals. Same case with the Burnout games. Cool crash effects but shallow as a puddle.
>>12035467>but muh headshotsIt shouldn't take 2 point blank shotgun rounds to the chest or 20 AK rounds to kill a single basic enemy.Even Halo is more realistic.
>>12034954holy tendie
This game has the best grenade sounds and effects combined with the environmental destruction than any other game I have played.
>>12035376>>12035467The ratio is sometimes too skewed towards headshots where literally 30-50 torso hits are equal to 1-2 headshots so you just have to hope your gun recoil jumps a bit and you land the headshot.
MacCarver my beloved
I did enjoy it, thought beating it on the hardest difficulty took some effort. I dunno if it is a bug in my copy or just in general but turning on silver weapons makes them all sound weedy needs to the window-shattering sound the regular guns have.
>>12034295It was good if you weren't a normalfag like most posters here.
>make game where guns fuck the environment up in an over-the-top action film way>but also have zero blood for a faggy T-ratingHow did they fuck this up so bad. Also the aforementioned bullet sponges and stupidly rare checkpoints made me quit at the bridge level.
>>12035653Kek it's actually rated M.
>>12035653OPbros...
>>12034294PCfags lost their minds over this game. Only two years later, with CoD 4 MW, they got a true taste of gun porn and kino and with Crysis they got a proper taste of environmental destruction within a FPS.
>>12035668>>12035678Well, that's a completely undeserved rating. Here in Europe it was rated 16+ which is more or less equivalent to T in USA. The point is that a shooter game with no blood feels like shit.
>>12035719Teen is 13+. I think PEGI 12+ would be closer to that.
>>12035719Some of the enemies seem to be armored and take 100 bullets to the armor before dying so that could explain why there's less blood. Maybe they also tried to lower the particle and decal amount by leaving blood out tho that might not hold water other than having maybe 0,1% less stuff on screen by omitting blood.
It's OK, the main selling point is that it looks good and the guns are loud as fuck and feel decent, the levels themselves are pretty boring and despite them also trying to sell it on level destruction there really isn't much of it. Urban Chaos is the best console-exclusive FPS from that gen.
>>12035815Doesn't Black almost let you level out entire apartment buildings and shit if you want to but the thing is this kind of destruction hardly every translates to gameplay anyway. It's just for the show and that's not a bad thing. Just saying it's not much different gameplay wise to the mostt basic thing where red barrels explode if you shoot them and if there's a grenade or a barrel next to a weird looking wall, you can find a secret path/room there.
Lining up headshots is simple and recoil management is too. The guns even have a fire select for this reason. This complaint has never held water.
>>12034294Daily reminder that this game got a shitty unknown sequel on 360/PS3 called bodycount. It's basically the same exact game but with erroneous levels where you fight Tron looking robot guys, and the faggy pseud director said the game was inspired by Lady Gaga.
>>12034294Yeah it still looks amazing for a ps2 game.
>>12035824>sequel gameNeat, maybe I'll check it o->director said the game was inspired by Lady GagaDropped.
>>12035824>bodycount>inspired by Lady Gagamakes sense. the name at least.
>>12035819Lining up headshots mean you will be firing in the tap tap tap tap tap way from the safest effective distance trying to score a headshot or two you need. I think a bit better alternative would be that you need multiple headshots so the multiplier isn't off charts. Something like you need 5 headshots to kill or 25-30 torso shots so you have an incentive to keep shooting.
>>12034396>he types with tears running down his face and anus
>>12035529>SOCOM, ratchet and clank, timesplitters>tendie
>>12034295PC gaming essentially dissappeared during that aside from stuff like WOW and the odd hilariously bad port like DMC3 or RE4. If it wasn't for steam im pretty sure PC gaming would not exist in any meaningful way today
>>12035719Tons of bloody M rated games get a PEGI 16. STALKER, Riddick, Half Life 2 etc.
>>12035882kek
>>12034294yes absolute corker of a game
>>12035921underrated post
>>12035921overrated post
>>12034294now for the real question ps2 or og xbox
If you listen closely on a moonless night you can hear the ps2's sound chip screaming in pain when playing Black.
>>12036351The Orange Box released literally a year later you fucking retard.
>>12036734I just find it baffling that this game with cartoonish violence got the same rating as for example Silent Hill or Manhunt.
>>12037104I wouldn't call it cartoonist, just stylish. Very similar to FEAR but without blood.
>>12034294>"Dude, have you played this game? It's GUN PORN">"There's tons of awesome guns and you can... wait for it...get this: DESTROY THE ENVIRONMENT!">all the guns are based on real weapons but have a bunch of retarded inaccuracies that would trigger most normie gun owners let alone /k/ autists>try to make le ebin military man game with 'splosions, but there's not even any blood>AI is complete braindead cannon fodder that's arguably less intelligent than DOOM enemies>cramped, linear environments with the most banal aesthetics possible>the destruction isn't even dynamic, you can't destroy most things in the game, only select objects>slow movement, slow turning, shit performance and awkward control settingsSome would call this a proto-7th gen shooter, but I think that's an insult to 7th gen shooters (which weren't even that great to begin with). Everything about this game is so fucking derivative and boring. it has no style, no soul. It unironically looks like one of those fake games you'd see on law and order. This is the de facto game that some stressed out, divorced dad who listens to Creed buys for his skinnyfat 13 year old son who has emotional problems. He walks into the store with no fucking idea of what to get for his little fat faggot son, sees the obese store clerk with eyebrow piercings and glasses and says "what's a good game for a young boy who likes action games?", and the clerk hands him this. It's basically the Rob Lowe of video games.
my 1st generation mexican friend liked it a lot
>>12037492>retarded inaccuracies that would trigger most normie gun owners let alone /k/ autistsGood. People who don't understand "rule of cool" are mentally retarded and should be ignored as an audience.>no style, no soulBLACK has style up the ass, the entire game is pure style.>This is the de facto game that some stressed out, divorced dad who listens to Creed buys for his skinnyfat 13 year old son who has emotional problems.Sounds pretty soulful to me.
>>12034295There was a good decade or so sometime after Windows 98 launched where consoles could do a lot of shit that PCs couldn't. Not necessarily because they were more powerful, but because their dedicated gaming architecture allowed consoles to do things much leaner and faster. A PS2 doesn't have to worry about sharing resources amongst processes running in the background or potential compatibility issues due to hardware, software, drivers, etc. like a Gateway pre-built computer would.Consoles lost once Sony and Microcock decided to turn their game machines into PC-lites that suffer from the exact same problems that regular computers do, made worse because they also don't have any of the advantages you'd get from a PC. This is why Nintendo went all-in on hardware gimmicks and refuses to drop them (but in an actual meaningful way, not that shitty non-effort crap Sony keeps doing).
>>12037632Anything that triggers /k/ is a good thing.
>>12034294Kinda, it got pretty shitty after the first few levels once the novelty of the physics wears off. It's a pretty bog standard shooter with generally bad level design. Also those goddamn unskippable cutscenes, god damn.
>>12034294never beat it because i clipped out the map in the same place twice
>>12035921kek
>>12037867that was the anti-piracy measure
>>12037492Why did your dad get you this game instead of Final Fantasy?
