I just played through all the Dragon Quest games for the nes and I loved the ability to customize your party in DQ3. Having true choice in party composition has made it one of my favorite JRPGs. The only other one I have played which is like this is Final Fantasy 1. A lot of other JRPGs I have played have a static party that you level up and maybe a plot point swaps one out which is ok I guess, but lacks compositional choice.What are some other JRPGs that have that same sort of freedom in customization?
>>12034687Dragon Quest 4Dragon Quest 5Final Fantasy 2Final Fantasy 3Final Fantasy 5Final Fantasy 7Saga 1Saga 2Saga 3Romancing SagaMegaten 1Megaten 2ShinMegatenPhantasy Star 2Cyber Knight
Fire Emblem, Shining Force, Super Robot Wars and other SRPGs
>>12034729i will have to check out the saga series I haven't played any of those
>>12034687Any Wizardry Metal Max 3 (and I think 2 too)Saga 1 and 2Disgaea somewhatElminageLast Bible Special (Game Gear)>not retro but worth mentioning: Etrian Odyssey, 7th Dragon and DQIX>>12034729>>12034754Are you guys dumb? Most of those games are not what OP asked at all.>>12034879Only Saga 1 and 2 are like Dragon Quest 3
>>12034902I heard great things about Wizardry, il have to play a few. these are all great thanks
>>12034902>Most of those games are not what OP asked at all.point on my list to the games that dont have full team customization like Final Fantasy 1 and Dragon Quest 3
>>12034915From the ones I know you can't make your own party members like DQ3FF2 (there's a lot swapping story characters here too, why is this here)FF3 (Actually this one is kinda like FF1 in the sense you get your full party from the beginning but you don't pick classes at the start, but you change them later so you should probably play it.)FF5 (Same as 3 but story characters)FF7 (You can customize them but they are your typical jrpg story characters stuff)Saga 3 (they are story characters now but it's similar)Romancing Saga (didn't play but I'm 99% sure it's like Saga frontier: Story characters you can pick which one you want in your party later though)>Any megaten gameWhat the fuck, the only one that does what OP wants is Last Bible SpecialPS2 (Didn't play but pretty sure you got story characters like your typical jrpg (DQ2 style) here)CK (You got story characters but it's pretty cool you can choose you want in your party from the start)Also similar to Cyber Knight you got Leplace's Demon, pre-made characters that you decide which join at the start. But not exactly silent guys you name and create like DQ3.>>12034912Yeah try the Snes or GBC ports of the first 3 games, there is also a lot of cool Japanese spin offs.
>>12034936You seem to be agreeing with me on half of these I dont see the problem. FF2 you have 3 party members you can customize any way you want for the whole game and theres 1 rotating character, OP said thats fine. In Megaten you can have a party of any monster you can think of and you can fully customize the human companions. I dont see the difference between picking fighter at the start of the game and putting 20 points into strength at the start of the game, megaten is infinitely more dynamic with composition choice compared to FF1.
SaGa Frontier is great for that. You can recruit many different characters, and there's different builds. Will you go down the int route for humans with magic and guns, or will you be using martials like swords or unarmed? What skills will you pick up for your monsters, what transformations will you be aiming for? There are various robots and not all of them devolve into sword usage, and you can download various skills off of robotic enemies and what load out you'll give them. Then mystics and what monsters you'll absorb into their items for stats and skills.
>>12034952OP here I see what you mean, and I appreciate the suggestions but I was looking for something along the lines of Wizardry or Ultima 3/4 where forming your party at the beginning is a permanent choice for that playthrough of the game.Or in the case of FF1 say you want to try a playthrough with 1 monk 1 fighter and 2 white mages, you now have a lot of extra healing compared to someone else's playthrough that took a red mage and black mage. Where FF2 is more building your party into their archetypes as the game progresses
>>12034952I was going for the ones that are the most exactly like DQ3 but yeah. >about megatenSure but old megaten has pretty static demons that can't change a lot or change at all, I would recommend Nocturne over the old ones, you have a lot of party customization there even if all your party members are demons.As for party members, I dunno about other people but MC is always a fighter and Heroine a balanced mage.Sure you can have fun with Law Hero and Chaos hero in SMT1 but they are not staying the whole game, I personally always make LW a tank mage and CH a speedy mage.I think OP would enjoy Persona 1 (a whole party from the start with some customization options available) and not retro: Devil Survivor (lots of customization on both demons and humans here)
>>12034973If you want your team to be permanent and picked from the start then ignore my post I suppose. I personally got annoyed at FF1 when I first played it because I felt my choice of thief hamstrung me and when I played DQ3 I traded out my merchant for a fighter/knight like 70% through the game because he wasnt pulling his weight. Being able to alter your party to suit the stuff ahead is some of the most enjoyable parts of rpgs in my opinion.
>>12034975I've played a lot of them and I do love the megaten games but I have to agree that they don't quite fit what I'm looking for. Its super nit picky and autistic but having them be fusible and kinda disposable in that way rather than party members puts it in a different category for me.
>>12034982I can see that. I personally love the make do with what you have and resource management aspects.
>DQ makes Ultima but better>FF makes DQ but better>DQ makes FF but better
>>12035149What dq is better than Ultima iv or vii
>>12035191All of them honestly
The third scenario of Momotarou Densetsu Gaiden is highly inspired by DQ3 and you build your party by choosing from 8 different characters who each correspond to a different class (although there are 2 joke characters, basically the Goof-Off class was split in two, one character which is useless until lvl20 and one character which remains a joker throughout). You can change party members at will.It's in Japanese so you're probably not going to play it but I like to post about these games to raise awareness in hope someone translates them.
