How were you supposed to know?
>>12039687To be honest, I don't even know. I only found it by diving on every screen at random.
>>12039687>not obsessively checking every tile for secretsfucking fake zelda fan, gto
>>12039687In well designed games there is an implication that all places have a purpose. You have to go very out of your way to swim out there, somewhere that apparently has nothing so there is an expectation that something had to be hidden otherwise the game would have simply not made that place accessible.There is however a bullshit heart piece that deserves criticism, it's behind a bombable wall in a cave that has no hint whatsoever that would lead you to investigate, it's not even centered in the middle of the screen. I'm sure the LA fanatics know the one im talking about
>>12039727I do. I never actually found it before getting a strategy guide.
>>12039698All the secrets on the first quest of Zelda 1 unironically make sense.
>>12039727The only one I never found as a kid without a guide. I guess you could argue that because you have to go down a screen and then up to that side there also has to be something there otherwise there would not be that wall separation in the middle, but still, I guess if someone were to probe here it would be at the very top of the screen not the fucking bottom corner where you enter
>>12039687I grew up with games that rewarded you for obsessively checking everything and slowly and slowly I lost the light in my eyes as games that rewarded this dropped off sharply Sad
I guess 2 out of what, 40 or so heart pieces? Is not that bad but yep I had to look them up.One was the one in the OP and the other one is in a random cave, can't remember where specifically but it may be around ukuku prairie, maybe. Anyway the cave in question has 2 main paths IIRC and it had those wall-running unkillable spiked enemies going around, and on the right path, there's a hidden breakable wall with a hidden room containing the heart piece.To be fair with the underwater one in the OP, I remember as a kid and even now if I play the game, I have the habit of just randomly pressing B to dive underwater at random spots, "just in case". The game teaches you that you can find hidden passages by diving so it was only natural for me to keep trying elsewhere. There's a lot of water in the game but in that particular section, it's not a lot of water surrounding the castle. I even remember I would dive around the castle a lot, but I guess I didn't scan the whole place. I would have shat bricks if I found it on my own and was disappointed to know I was close to finding it.But that cave one is just cruel. It's in a very uncomfortable place (narrow and with an unkillable enemy) and there's also no indication that you can break that wall with a bomb, no crack - although there is a way to randomly find out and that's if you check the wall by clinching the sword against it, breakable walls make a different sound than normal. But yeah, too obscure.Again I don't think it's that horrible, I mean, I found all the other ones no problem by just exploring and solving puzzles. These 2 were the only 2 I had to look up.
>>12039727>>12039731>>12039741>>12039763Guess this one stumbled most of us lol
>>12039758not that Im defending cryptic bullshit, but is that just a graphical glitch or is that part of the wall not different from the rest?
>>12040020do you mean the fucking corner tower of the castle?
>>12040020Cryptic bullshit is unironically goodNot everyone deserves to 100 percent a game blind. Everyone should be able to find different things with algorithmic fuckeryGrow up
>>12040031I gotta agree. These 2 pieces aren't needed for beating the game, they are just extra reward for those crazy (or lucky) enough
You just ask the help line duuuh
>>12039741Fuck this one!
>>12039687you weren't supposed to know, it's a secret
>have no trouble finding most hearts myself>read nintendo power and gamepro>now i have them all>grow up, get married, have kids>some 20 year old communist is screaming about how oppressive it was that devs made "hard" games to "scam" you into buying strategy guidesman i'm glad i didn't throw my life away on misplaced resentment
Do secrets even exist anymore?It seems to me even without hackers getting into the game's files, all new games get quickly 100% exposed with all their content before they even get to be release, due to influencers getting early promo copies.
>>12039741Most would likely just see the treasure chest on the first screen that requires the boots to reach, open that, and call it done. Wouldn't cross their minds to check the screen above for a blind bombing spot unless they knew to poke walls with the sword for hollow sounds and were doing that everywhere. I know I didn't.
>>12041247if you hide something in your game now you get review bombed on steam for not respecting your customers time. A customer is entitled to every data bit in your game and if I cant find one I will sue you.
>>12039698gto what?
>>12041481Great Teacher Onizuka
>>12039727Does it do the "tink" sound with a sword? P sure I found all the hearts in that game without a guide. But I only had that and Pokemon to play so.Haven't played it in ages tho. Probably wouldn't bother 100%ing it now.
>>12041704>cut every blade of grass>move every rock>dig every dirt tile>dive in every water space>push your sword into every wallYep it's Link's Awakening time.
>>12042213Wish more games were like that
>>12042213I did dig every hole. I remember making the effort screen-by screen.
>>12039687TIL
>>12041497great show
>>12042213I love exploring
>>12039687Read a guide.
>>12039763>out of what, 40 or so16
>>12044070Link's Awakening has only 12 Heart Pieces.
>>12039687That screen looks suspicious. Of course there would be a heart in there somewhere.
>>12041247I'm sure there are plenty of games with secrets still waiting to be discovered. That whole Cinna's hammer thing in FF9 wasn't found out until a few years ago.
>>12041247I mean let's not pretend that people weren't spoiling "secrets" all the time back then. I mean my friend's mom would call the Nintendo hotline. I had a subscription to Nintendo Power. There was the schoolyard, friends, and family. Yeah you had to take notes to solve some games but it wasn't like people were always doing it blind. Now people do the same thing but they actively avoid looking online to preserve the experience.
>>12044116Most would likely be more focused on the stairs across that pit, which not even a boots/feather combo jump can clear.
>>12039687>How were you supposed to know?You weren't in the sense that because it's not required to beat the game, it's just satisfactory to find.>>12039698Just like NES Zelda. Sure you CAN bomb and burn everything, but you really don't have to. It's for upgrades and more power, but those are just extra icing on the cake, you don't need them. There is really only 1-2 things (the entrance to Level 7 and 8) that you need to "do" anything in the overworld.Sure moving the rocks with the gauntlet makes for faster travel, but you don't NEED to find those spots to beat the game.
