Why does it seem like Xbox emulation is so far behind the times?
Because the system had few excluses and most of them were already playable through official backwards compatibility patching.Very few people are willing to reverse engineer a system to play three games.
>>12039996What >>12040008 said + for years Xbox emulation efforts were hampered by the assumption "oh, it's x86, so we can just run it through a compatibility layer à la Wine!"
>>12039996Dunno, maybe being x86 makes it harder to emulate
>>12039996The Xbox simply isn't appealing to the kind of people who make emulators
>>12040060>"oh, it's x86, so we can just run it through a compatibility layer à la Wine!"Why didn't that work?
>>12040130Because the Xbox isn't "literally just a regular PC" like so many people like to parrot. It's parts are actually different from regular off-the-shelf CPUs, GPUs, etc and are bespoke parts specifically made for the Xbox, and a lot of how they work isn't documented. The GPU for example doesn't work like any desktop Nvidia GPU
>>12040146You can put a desktop Pentium 3 in an Xbox though and it just werks
>>12040130it didit's the directx layer the xbox used that gets translated, the problem is there were so many revisions the xbox sdk used that makes making it universal very hard
>>12040180>You can put a desktop Pentium 3 in an Xbox though and it just werksThe Xbox CPU is soldered to the motherboard using a ball grid array, so no, you can't put a desktop Pentium 3 on an Xbox
A friend installed Linux on his Xbox and used it as his home server back in '03 or so, it can't be that different from a PC
>>12039996I just booted up Kameo Elements of Power beta on xemu and it ran fine while looking great. I have an RTX3050 and a Ryzen 5600X.
>>12040192Desolder it. Look up the 1.4Ghz Xbox mod
>>12039996just buy one for $20
>>12040201PS3 supported Linux and that couldn’t be further from a standard pc
>>12040221PowerPC, it's in the name.
>>12040225PS3 was cell retard, 360 was powerPC
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>>12040234i take the L, didnt know that
Because sadly few people care, same reason that Switch emulation is so far ahead of the 3DO or CD-I, and why pretty much no emulators exist for things like the game.com or Hyperscan (The only reason *A* emulator for the game.com even exists is because it was an official one from the dev kit).The main thing that drives creating emulators for a system is interest, and there isn't much interest in emulating the Xbox over many other systems, especially since many of it's games were on other far better emulators systems and/or PC. It does have some interesting exclusives, but sadly, nobody is interested in playing those exclusives. Half of them are more just plain interesting as a game concept than fun to play, such as N.U.D.E., Murakumo, Fusion Frenzy, or Wacked. Others technically are exclusive but were ported with enhancements to other platforms, and others are basically considered poor games.The list of GOOD exclusives for it is small, and as a console itself to emulate just for the sake of doing it/for the challenge, it's lacking that too compared to systems like the Jaguar, CD-I, or Saturn.They are also pretty easy to hack and can output in HD.
>>12040201>It can run Linux!Means about as much as>It can run Doom!When trying to argue that something is a normal PC. Pic related.
>>12039996Would running the Xbox one/seriessex Xbox emulator through wine be a potential alternative?
>>12040262The Xbox emulator on those is running through the Xbone/Series X's Xbox 360 emulator, and the Xbox 360 itself emulated the original Xbox...Yep, the Xbone/XSX is emulating an emulator.
>>12040238>same reason that Switch emulation is so far ahead of the 3DOActually switch emulation is worse. 3DO emulation runs practically everything while switch emu's either have problems or stutter very frequently.People overrate switch emulation just because they can run popular shit with slight issues.
>>12040008This is why. Often the Xbox had the “best version” of the multiplatform games of the era in terms of graphics, performance, etc but that isn’t a reason to emulate it today since those games usually have a newer or more easily accessed release
>>12040362There are a ton of multiplats from this era that never got later ports because of licensed cars or music that deserve better Xbox emulation. Basically every EA game. The problem is these are normie games that troons don't care about.
>>12039996Because every xbox console is unknown in first place, then there is the whole overcomplicating things of some that aimed to do an emu.Is mostly that, i remember having some batches and exes to run halo on windows xp, dead or alive extreme paradise on windows xp and so on with most of the people making the batches just saying "you don't even need an xbox or an emu since all xbox games are made with direct X sdk hence can be run on windows" sadly batches only worked on windows xp.
>>12040234Psfags are really butthurt to go an edit the wiki to prove their claims, well not the first time.>sony : we made 100 million ps2 units around 10% were defective.>psfags : switch will never beat ps2 lol (add 60 million units from their asses from sold units).
>>12040290>same sdk for all with x calls to firmware.>firmware can be updated on future consoles.>old games runI had several games and while they didn't run on default 360 firmware a simple update fixed the incompatibility.It isn't emulating is just same shit as windows.
>>12039996- Not many exclusives- Powerful hardware for its time- Nvidia being Nvidia and not documenting their shit, requiring people to reverse-engineer it- Popular perception that "hurr durr it's just a PC it should be easy to emulate", even though proper PC emulation is far from trivial, never mind the fact that the Xbox's architecture diverges from normal PCs in a number of ways
I don't know what you morons are on about, Xemu is a pretty solid solution for the time it's been in active development. Saturn and N64 emulation aren't perfect either, and there's definitely interest in those libraries.
>>12040447The N64 and Saturn have had somewhat viable emulators for a lot longer than the Xbox has had them.
>>12040435It's using a newer build of the OG Xbox emulator that never shipped in 360 firmware updates. You can actually extract the .xex and use it on a modded 360 for improved Xbox compatibility: https://consolemods.org/wiki/Xbox_360:Original_Xbox_Games_Compatibility_List
>>12040447You're the only moron here if you think Xemu is even close to on the same level as Dolphin or PCSX2. There are still large swathes of the Xbox library that are completely broken and unplayable via emulation. Saturn and N64 emulation may not be "perfect" but there are few (if any) games that don't run at all.
>>12040464>Xemu is even close to on the same level as Dolphin or PCSX2.You're the only idiot who ever made such a statement. Learn how to read.
>>12040429>edit the wikiYou are an enormous fucking imbecile. The Cell is a PowerPC processor:>https://www.computer.org/csdl/proceedings-article/micro/2005/24400003/12OmNxFaLAx>https://youtu.be/SPOxWl_sxIU?t=1718>https://www.theregister.com/2004/11/29/ibm_sony_cell_debut/>https://youtu.be/CjZk8u-frdY?t=188Even the Xbox 360 CPU was based on a prerelease Cell processor (and thoroughly improved over the Cell). More importantly, your retardation is not retro.
jsrf runs great in xemu now, cant think of any other good xbox exclusive that isnt also on pc already.
>>12040512Muh fromslop
