MAY-ko or MAH-ko?
It's not "mayko", there is no debate. Find me a single English word starting with "Mac" pronounced like that. Protip: it's a waste of time, there isn't.
Manko
>>12043974May-ko sounds less retarded
>>12043974Japanese has unambiguous pronunciation learn it.
>>12043974Mawko.
Like the mermaids
>>12043982https://translate.google.ca/?sl=en&tl=gv&text=mako&op=translateI did itIt's actually a short a in FFVII because it's a Japanese word but fuck like anyone knew that in 1997.
NIG-ger
>>12043974This is a japanese game, you're meant to read it their way.>MAYkoEmbarrassing.
>>12043982mako shark
>>12043974>May-ko>Rye-you>Pokee-mon>Ah-carina>Dee-ku>Tie-dus>Oobi-soft>Planet Zeebz>Eye-co>Sir Daniel Fortesk>Swee-koden
>>12043974i said mayko because of >>12044034thats how i heard mako shark pronounced in school. mayko
>>12044034>>12044063It''s a Maori word. It's "mah'ko"
>>12043974Depends if you're using the Midgar pronunciation or the Wutai pronunciation.
>mah-ko>Ray-no>Air-ri-suFuck that shit, weebs.It's may-ko, Ree-no, and Air-ris
>>12044074And ランド is an English word.Why can't you pronounce it correctly?
shut up bitch
>>12044074No one in America says it like that. Words evolve.
English-brained folk are so retarded.
>>12043982make
>>12044114English is literally God’s language.No one cares about your thirdie poverty language.
>Japanese has no -th sound>Aeris is clearly spelled with an -s sound (ス)>people still somehow insist her name is Aerith
>>12044129They don't have an "L" sound, either.It's why "Ballet" shoots "burrets." Duh.
>>12044129my copy of the game says aeris so thats her name
>>12044060It actually is Oobeesoft... Sucks I know but that's French for you. Ubisoft's official answer is "It's both depending on the language you speak" but that's a copout. I will always be a believer in Youbeesoft for no reason except that I want to believe.I've never played MediEvil, how is this name supposed to be pronounced?Swee-koden is mostly correct, isn't it? Suu-ee-koh-DEN seems to be the Japanese pronunciation, and American English doesn't normally require you to adopt a perfect accent to correctly pronounce something; our "swee" is almost identical, just faster than the Japanese suu-ee. Unless you're saying there's people who pronounce it like "swee codin' (swee-KOH-din)".oh god I've been saying ah-carina all my life. It's wrong?? HELP
>>12044129>an -s sound (ス)That's a "su" sound.The only "single consonant" sound they have is (ん) or (ン), and even then, it's pronounced like a humming "n" or "m" or "-ng" or "mg." If specifically indicated to be its own syllable, it's a nasal vowel more than a pressured consonant.
>>12044129(エアリス・ゲインズブール, Earisu Geinzubūru?)
>>12044123Cute.
>>12044147>Suu-ee-koh-DEN seems to be the Japanese pronunciationno that isnt
Y'all niggas will argue about anything
>>12043998Do you say Kuraudo too? Or cloud like a normal person because that's what the intention was
Most fags don't know this but it's Mah-koh, not Mah-ko魔晄 まこう
>>12044060>Pokee-monI've never heard someone say that in a serious manner. It's always to be annoying like Pokeemanz. >Ah-carinaNow I have heard that a lot>Oobi-softSee, I've said You-be-soft for years and everyone always told me it was Oobi, and I've heard Canadian French and French say it with Oobi. So I thought I was wrong the whole time. >Eye-coIco? I've only heard people say Eek-o
>>12044147>I've never played MediEvil, how is this name supposed to be pronounced? Forte-skew. It's said out loud in the intro cutscene and yet retards still get it wrong.https://youtube.com/watch?v=0ZYQdK0saCY
>>12044178I play the games entirely in japanese so yes I say what the text is on the screen.
>>12043974>>12044129Did you know that "Red XII" has an established name in the code called "RED 13"?
EY, MISTER FORTISSKAY, I WANNA TOLK WICHU
>>12044202>red ecks eye eye eye
>AAAEERIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!>AAAAERRRIIIIIITTTTHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!I dunno.Then again, the Japanese don't even pronounce one of those...
>>12044129it relies on the s/th thing in japanese to produce a bilingual pun.it's SPELLED Aerith so that it has an anagram of "Earth" in the name.it's PRONOUNCED Air-iss to be cognate with "Heiress", a female Heir.because she's the last Cetra. she's supposed to inherit the earth.
>>12044060>Tie-dusAs opposed to what, tee-dus? For the love of me, I can't imagine anyone thinking that's what his name sounds like.No fuckin way.
>>12044192Sir Daniel FortesqueHow do you niggers get that wrong so bad? ForTeSkew
>Final Fantasy IX>Princess Garnet>Princess Garnet>Princess Garnet>Princess Garnet>Garnet>Gernet>Princess>Princess>*she steals Zidane's dagger""Hmm, I think I'll join your party! I'll be called..."
>>12044217She's also a street prostitute, working late-nights in the Midgar ghettos. She sells "flowers" for "1 gil" and you can get "a lot more" back at her house~~~~ It's a pun!
>>12044137>la le lu li lobecomes>Ra re ru ri ro!
>>12044219Apparently the VA himself confirmed it is tee-dus, as retarded as that sounds.
>>12044240
>>12044060>>12044192>>12044223>Sir Daniel Fortesque>It's pronounced "Fore-teh-skew">He even says it out loud!>How could anyone get that wrong?Sounds grotesque.Like you'd here if he was burlesque.You'd have to be arabesque.Or ancient, like, romanesque.It ruins the tone; so picturesque.Or are you being humoresque?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0xk1qED9Zs
>>12044265I always saw the old person as>ENORMOUS NOSE wearing eyeglasses perched on very big ears
Yeah!Stop pronouncing names liek they're WRONG!!!So dumb!
I've seen loads of old movies and on rare occasions there will be an uncommon word that is blatantly pronounced wrong. It's as though they'd never encountered it before reading it off the script and no-one else was able to correct them.The ones that piss me off in the present day are "Bach" as "Back" and "debris" and "deh-briss". Without exception whenever I hear those I feel the speaker is an uncultured piece of shit who deserves to be trodden firmly into the fucking ground.
>>12043974>>12044129>>12044159>>12044178>>12044202And did you know?According to the original databose files, "Cloud" is named "Ex-SOLDIER"!So officially real, you guys!
His name is canonically Bullet
>>12044279>you now realize M. Bison was a parody of Mike Tyson
>>12044060>Planet Zeebz>Swee-kodenAlmost perfect except for these abominations.
>>12044282I don't think I could ever watch that Avatar cartoon because they can't even say their own characters names right. You'd think they wouldn't pronounce Aang wrong and yet every time someone says the character's name it sounds like an NES Zapper in your ear.
>>12043974May-ko, I don't even know if this is wrong but don't care.I also called Ogres in FF1 Og-rays as a child and was mocked by my sister and stopped.
Prepare to sleep with the fishes
>>12044282Ever hear a person say Ray-Min noodles?
It's pronounced 魔晄
>>12044720Everybody Loves Raymond Noodles
>>12044725And a chin chong nip nong to you, young lady.
Mah-kohCu-loud-ohAh-li-suSheen-la
I'm surprised this thread has gone this long and not one person has brought up Yuffie.
>>12044060>go-ee-mawn>can't-o (kanto region)>akOOma>ikaROOga>masamyoon
>>12044108What does that have anything to do with my post?
>psy-uh-bawn action
>Genghis Khan>it's pronounced Chingguswtf
>>12044081Oh not in Midgar or Wutai no, it's a Nibelheim expression.
>>12044174 Well, now we'll never know the truth because you didn't speak it.
>>12044147>Oobeesoftactually its oui-oui-besoft
>>12044178You need to look up how loan words work. Gairaigo is the japanese term for a word like kuraudo. It means cloud and sounds like cloud to you if you transliterate it to your language, sure. But that doesn't mean his name is supposed to be cloud. Cloud and kuraudo are the same thing, they sound the same to a Japanese person, the distinction is entirely and solely in your baka gaijin brain.
I used to pronounce Nibelheim as "nih-bell-he-im"
>>12044962https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcABSOf1U_M
>>12044987>水滸伝>水there you have it, folks.
Does her name rhyme with goofy or puffy?
>>12045110It rhymes with Stupid Thieving Smore
>>12045110The former imo. Yuu-fee.Picrel I named her "Josephine" this playthrough. I was pretty hammered that day. I'm using an American name naming scheme, but have no idea why I picked that.>The last Metroid is in captivity; the galaxy is at peace.
>>12045110puffy, of course
>>12043974I say Mako.
>>12044987I'm not hearing the difference between that and what I described earlier, what's the distinction?
>>12043974I imagine there are ESLs or particularly pedantic Japanophiles who would insist on some kind of stilted Japanese pronunciation, but to those of us who speak English, the language of the White Man, it was always MAY-ko.
Not retro.
>>12045253>mako america great again
>>12045253Then why can't I find it in an English Dictionary?
>>12044147>It actually is OobeesoftNot exactly. In frogspeak, it's a sound that's not in English, roughly a mix of "oo" and "ih" (as in "shit").
>>12044736Deep green leaves like those always remind me of the 90s for some reason.Maybe because I think of sitcom sets that had fake plants that were overly green or something, I dunno.
>>12045410https://www.dictionary.com/browse/makohttps://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/mako
>>12045443>Maybe because I think of sitcom sets that had fake plants that were overly green or somethingIs that's really what's happening? Or are a group of demons subtly altering history just to fuck with you specifically? Because that's what's been happening to me.
I say words however the fuck I want and double down when pseud faggots get angry. My IQ is in the high 130's unregardless of what you retards think
>>12045443The 90s were a decade of dark greens, like hunter green or forest green. In the 2000s and 2010s fads switched to lame ass lime green.
>>12044972what makes someone like this
>>12043982Make>>12043974I always said Mayko until I played Crisis Whore and heard Sephiroth say mahko. I immediately laughed and said wtf, but nowadays I've gotten used to mahko
>>12045468charteruese is coming back I cant wait
Aeris sounds so much more feminine than Aerith
may-ri-ohi r gamur !!
>>12044284u mad cos u rong
>>12043974Only anglos would think it's "mayko"
>>12044219>>12044240In Japan it was always Tee-dus, no need for English VA to confirm it.
>>12044060>Swee-kodenThat's not correct?
>>12044284You are correct. Translation was done internally with little to no input from developers, it is ambiguous because of the ス. No one is trying to retcon it to Sephoros despite that also ending with su. They had every opertunity to change it if it was a typo. Aeris was the approved name. The source of the Aerith name change came from Kingdom Hearts, the same game that started calling Squall Leon. The only source of 'proof' people can muster is an unsourced claim in an information book released years later that says 'a dev said it was an allusion to earth'. I don't care that they call her Aerith now, but it wasn't some mistake she was called Aeris originally, it's a retcon. You're giving Square and Nomura too much credit.
>>12046223It's Soo-ee (as in chop suey) koden
>>12046034His name is Tiida in Japanese. No s noise at all.
>>12045471Like what? Are you referring to my attention to detail and regard for linguistic integrity in translations? I happen to have studied Japanese for several years and in that short time I managed to be exposed to all of the problems this thread is discussing. And I'm sorry, but there are clear, trivial solutions to these problems. Its called linguistics. Its not something you can just intuitively understand. Its a language system that exists outside of your familiarity zone and thats okay. But there are rules. Please learn them if you're going to play games from cultures outside of your own. Its simply a matter of respect for the devs. And in the modern age of google and chatgpt, you simply have no excuse. If you're saying MAY ko, you're defaulting to your limited experience with those syllables, probably because in some distant part of your brain, you know there is some shark called MAY ko, and that's all you can apply, because humans are simplistic creatures of habit who follow the path of least resistence and have the greatest trouble in deviating from that comfortable path. Neuroplastisity is suprisingly rare in the general population. Unless you put your mind to it, which is apparently too hard for some of you. If you are willing to spend, I dunno, 40 calories on this simple problem, you'll find it rather easy to simply open up a japanese-english dictionary, oh wait, you don't have one? You're playing Japanese video games and you don't have any books for study- no, that's fine, see, because we are living in the INTERNET ERA, where ingormation is readily accessible, at your fingertips, and if you simply ask google, which is now equipped with AI assistance built in, you will immediately find out that mako is pronounced MAH ko in Japanese, the original language of the game we are discussing. It is such a cut and dry, matter of fact topic that I'm shocked I even had to explain any of this. Good day.
>>12043974Funny thread but I always pronounced it MAY-ko.
Care-ee-Yoh-kee
>>12046410>thinking about something burns 40 caloriesJust how fat are you?
>>12045264There's always a retro Mako
>>12046410Lol shut up nerd
>>12046410You're preaching to the deaf. Native English speakers tend to be pathologically lazy and incurious.
>>12043982>Aeris was Air-ease>Mako was May-koh>Leviathan was Levee-A-thon>Yuffie was Yuh-Fee>Bugenhagen was Bwen-heg-new-ganGood times.
>>12046027>says this in English
>>12043974When they don't tell you is that it just means "pure evil", they're literally farming pure evil.
>>12048237How the fuck do you mispronounce Leviathan.How the fuck do you pronounce Bugenhagen ANYTHING like you described.
>>12048237>be watching youtuber lets play>continues to pronounce an obvious third-grade word like a complete retard who has never read a book before>close tab and never watch again
>>12048685Books don't teach you how to pronounce things, though. Unless they're the dictionary, I guess.
>>12048691That is true, but typically saying them once gets a correction from someone and you learn. I read melancholy many times before saying "mehl-an-CHO'-lee" and having someone tell me the right way.
>>12048685>what up guys, just got this new sega saturn flashcart>the satty-aytor
>>12048691You're supposed to read them alongside a parent or teacher.
>>12048696Reading a lot but speaking to others little is how you get fucked up pronunciations of uncommon words. How often do you use epitome in daily conversation?
>>12044010one on the left looks like she has downs syndrome
>>12048781It's actually reading a lot and listening little that fucks you up.
We used to live in a time when educated people corrected others with the encouragement of "improving."Nowadays, we live in a time where "educated" people freak-the-fuck-out if you disagree with them, shouting and tweeting and swearing that you're hurting them if you dare judge their actions poorly and that you need to be reported to the principal/Human Resources/your commanding officer/the Police so they can feel safe again and you'll be punished for the EVIL act of telling them, "no, it's pronounced this way.">You're so petty, I hate you!>Um, my name is NOT pronounced that way; it's pronounced "MISS-izz Sharr-leh-MAG-nee" and you've just offended me for not asking my first and judging me based on my appearance!!!>I don't give a FUCK about you! You have to LOVE me!
>>12048669My first exposure to FFVII was watching an older friend of mine play it on PC. That’s the way he pronounced leviathan and bugenhagen. I still like the way he would pronounce leviathan— it sounds significantly more epic than the proper pronunciation. First time I heard the proper way to pronounce leviathan I thought it sounded weird and lame.Also>ifrit is actually pronounced If-rEEt Woulda never known that just by reading it
>>12043982it has nothing to do with english, retard.
>>12043974Marcus.>>12043994Best answer.>>12044819Jengus, like Jenga.
>>12043974Mah-ko. There are several voiced FF7 games and a movie where they speak it constantly. It's Mah-ko.
>>12044123How many languages can you speak, burger? That's right, barely one. You're pathetic.
>>12043974魔晄(まこう(makou))muh coouh
>>12043974Mayke-oooooo
>>12043974MAYko is correct. It was the original way for the only audience that matters, which is the US audience. The opinions of Japanese, and millennials or younger can be disregarded.
I am so retarded I cant stop myself from just blowing through the game. It only takes 2 encounters into backtracking somewhere and I instantly just think "nah fuck that" and go back to advancing the story. How do you fucks play these kinds of games I just dont get it?
>>12050710>I don’t like thingCongratulating to you!
>>12043974I say may-ko because I'm not a reddit faglord
>>12050710By not having ADHD.
>>12044736>Mah-kohCorrect.>Cu-loud-ohIncorrect.>Ah-li-suIncredibly incorrect if we're talking about Aerith.>Sheen-laIncorrect as well.
>>12051017So how would you say the others? I knew the Aerith one was wrong. I've seen a list of pronunciations for every name or enemy in the game, I'll see if I can find it.>Pic, just about to get Aerith's final limit break before going into Temple of the Ancients, as is tradition.
>>12051021https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_VII_translationsLooks like I wasn't far off with "Cu-loud-oh."
>>12043994based
>>12043974I speak Japanese and I still say everything in FF7 the way I did as a kid. May-ko, Tiffuh, Eris, Shen-rah, etc. Never going to change because you sound like a dumbass if you try to pronounce things "right". It's like people who say KAH-RAH-TAY instead of karate.
MAH-ko is the Japanese pronunciation of "mako" because that word can be formed with Jap runes.For non-ESLs, MAY-ko is the English prounciation because for native English speakers it rolls much more easily and quickly off the tongue.
>>12044819https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AXlVZRpweI
>>12051739>Shen-rahHow do you get that from "Shinra"?
>>12051864Shin, like the part of your leg. I guess shin-ruh is what I meant.
>>12051868So you never were pronouncing the first syllable "shen".
>>12051876"Shen" is how I would type how I pronounce "Shin" to make it less phonetically ambiguous from the Japanese "Shin".
>>12051025>corrects Aeris into Aerith >never fixes Zackth, Rufuth, Biggth, or Coateth What did Square mean by this?
>>12044176Shut up Fred Durst, your Chocolate starfish album sucked ASS.
>>12044176No we won't
