Ken Sugimori was an innocent man with an innocent dream: to create a children's video game franchise centered around BDSM. Tragically, Nintendo crushed his dream before it could be realized.
>>12044103>Ken Sugimori made PokémonKen Sugimori was just one of the artists...
They're whipping the 'mons, not the 'mans
>>12044103The implication is that they’re cruel because they whip pokemon and that’s why you, the trainer who raises his pokemon with love, is destined to always win against them.Dumb coomer.
>>12044131Meanwhile in anime Ash loses to some nigga metafag that whips his pokemon
>>12044134Oh yeah, I think he did lose at that pokemon boxing gym or whatever. I can’t remember if that guy was shipping his Pokemon or not.
>>12044139*whipping not shipping
I will travel across the landSearching far and wideMake Pokémon understandBy whipping their behind
I hope she whips me.
>>12044376Best Poke waifu and it isnt even close
>>12044376her eye looks derpy
>>12044131That clearly isn't the implication considering an early version of the player sprite also has a whip.
>>12044501Gary bullies THIS?
>>12044546he had two whips
>>12044131It was from the franchise's beginnings that you were taming wild animals. Like a circus animal tamer. That's why more than half of the sprites aren't actually "evil" characters: the whip more implies they're using stronger and harder to control pokemon. It's why the Elite Trainers (renamed as Cool Trainers) and Fierce Beast User (renamed as Tamer) have them. The only who is using the "is a cruel trainer" is the rocket grunt since they use whips no matter the pokemon, even something weak and common.
>>12044103Post-WW2 Japan had strict laws against weapon owning/carrying but whips were a loophole. Sugimori grew up during the height of whip usage in Japan and that reflected in his work on Pokemon. During an interview once, he said the only thing more fun than bug catching and battling after school was getting together with his friends and whipping the dogshit out of the Korean exchange student kid.
back then they were still called pocket monsters. you gotta use the whip to deal with monsters.
>>12044134Ashe loses to him and Gary and Misty admire him as a trainer and continue to shit on Ash for being a retard bleeding heartIndigo league is an interesting vibe
>>12044752I could have sworn reading that Sabrina had a whip because she was intended to be a Team Rocket member and that the original psychic leader was Erika, which is why her sprite has her pokeball levitating
>>12044985She's just throwing it. If you look in the OP image you can see that the artists drew the trainers to look like they are in motion a lot of the time. If it was actually supposed to represent levitation they easily could've just changed the art. By the way, I've never heard the idea that Erika was supposed to be a psychic trainer - there is a theory that she was a ghost boss, because her dress is folded the wrong way. But I think that's still a theory that has never been proved.
>>12045043It's actually the pokemon inside trying to suckle on her perfect breasts
>>12044501I think the fact that the player ultimately does not use a whip gives more validity to that implication, actually.
>>12045160God shut the fuck up
>>12044752cool detail
>>12044501What a Chad
>>12044752>we could have had Pokemon with a tranq rifle mini game
>>12044752Digimon actually ran with this idea. That series' equivalent to "trainers" are called "tamers" (and an anime series was named after that, of course).
>>12044103>I just realized that the Cueball guy isn't actually holding a transpatent skateboard in his sprite
>>12044501Motherfucker looks like an underaged Clark Still
>>12044376>>12044382>>12044471>Emotionally-stunted psychic>Covert Team Rocket agent>Casual girl who aspires to be an actressSabrina seems to change her character with almost every appearance.
>>12044103I actually think a little edge was good for pokemon’s aesthetic and helped it catch on.
>>12046527Absolutely. I don't think Pokemon would've been half as popular with boys in the 90s otherwise.
>>12046518I thought he was holding a saw
>>12046540Still my favourite Pokemon of all time, has been since my first run of Blue. If he's not in Z-A I'm gonna riot.
>>12045203I’m not saying that guy was right, but your reasoning made no sense.
>>12044501How have I never seen this, Red looks like a fucking beast
>>12046527>>12046540>>12046663The sanding off of Nidoking's edges is still one of Pokemon's biggest tragedies
>>12044937>was getting together with his friends and whipping the dogshit out of the Korean exchange student kidI swear Japs have this odd sadistic streak that pops out from time to time and I don't understand where it comes from.
>>12046526ITS NOT A PHASE MOM
>>12047729Nip society is insanely conformist, and if you stick out, they hammer you down. Of course, they are also a face culture, so they do their best to put up a polite front to the rest of the world.
>>12047636For me, it's the GOAT Golbat sprite that only plebs hate.
>>12044937Source or you're lying you gay fuck
Why is the cup on the outside of his pants?
>>12048446I've seen fanart depicting it as a cow skull, but I can't find any official art corroborating that
>>12044103They have whips the same way a Lion tamer does retardThe implication is they are abusing their pokemonSo much jap shit has villains that abused animals because Japs love kawaii animals and hate poachers and shit
>>12048446codpiece, I guess
>>12048591The characters in >>12044752 are the protagonists of their show.
>>12044937>>12047729Based as fuck jap chad
>>12048591The Tamer Trainers are the only ones that still have whips simply because it's part of the expectation, and they have to insist that they're only for self-defense despite trained Pokemon being generally not known for attacking their Trainers.
>>12049210Pikachu used to shock the shit out of ash all the time in season one before they turned him into a faggot cheerleaderI think originally it was hinted that pokemon with strong wills could still get hostile with trainers but it slowly got retconned into pokemon being living funkopops once you captured them
For me it's Jessie with a whip
>>12044126Since the gamefreak leak we know the pokemon are actually people turned into monsters, so they are technically whipping people.
>>12049247the what leak now? give sauce. i wanna read.
>>12049249The leak from Around Oct 2024. /v/ had loads of fun finding all the smut the gamefreak producers had written about their characters.
>>12049265jesus christ..
>>12048345>it appears that my superiority has led to some controversy>>12049265>>12049287this shit again? Background text, heavily lifted from traditional folktales, and written to inspire world building, is hardly indicative of smut. For fucks sake, read the story and realize it's hunter's wisdom turned into a story with a moral value. The reactions to these stories really taught me not only how little cultural awareness people have in vidya communities but ironically how little imagination and critical thinking skill as well.Those talking about how different things are between games, show, etc. in the early days also need note that back then, they were handled by different people, and there was not much oversight or brand image concern. The kind of all-around standardization of product that is standard in large media properties or social media personalities today was not present or even common for something like a video game. Just look at how different Sonic comics/TV shows were across different companies. For a real dive, read about the writer for the cartoon for the first 5 years. He was a blackout drunk who only wrote when he couldn't fully remember if 1 + 1 = 2.
>>12049265>>12049459yeah this literally reads like plains folklore from east siberians or native americans adapted for pokemon, i wouldn't think of it as smut, any actual examples, or just more cool tales like this?
>>12050256They're all outright existing bits of folklore with animals replaced by pokemon. That's the entire controversy, people read "and then the chieftain's daughter mated with an ursaring and brought forth a child who led the tribe into the wilderness" type shit and lose their minds.
>>12050271I'm too lazy to look for a screencap but iirc in one of the early games (either 1st or 2nd gen) there's an npc that mentions that the lines between human and pokemon were more blurred in the ancient past and that they would inter-marry so this shit isn't even a 'leak'. Really just feels like typical lazy world-building stuff where you grab stuff from folklore you find interesting and adapt it to your setting and not 'smut fics' lol.
>>all this kope ittThey clearly thought that whipping was a badass expression of discipline and cleaned it up for western audiences. You guys don't understand Asia
>>12050493cope? more like rope
>>12044126*the 'mons, not the mons
>>12049265>working on in-universe myths during game writing>start studying real-world myths for inspiration>want to see how things would fit>take some real-world folklore>change the animal/mythical creature into a pokemon as a writing exercise never meant to see the light of day >suddenly it's smut
>>12050790go make a podcast about it white boy
>>12051291you say that like it's a bad thing
>>12044131>The implication is that they’re cruel because they whip pokemon and that’s why you, the trainer who raises his pokemon with love, is destined to always win against them.
>>12051291I’m SEA, I’m speaking from experience
>>12050986Damn, didn't know Jamaicans posted on /vr/
>>12048656Lot of fanfic here
>>12044937great comedy m8, did enjoy. But that said, how the fuck are anons falling for this, did someone start pumping retard gas into /vr/ again
>>12044937No wonder he made such kino
>>12044376Damn this show was ugly.
>>12049214Nigger, Charizard's entire 'character' was shitting on Ash.
>>12048446an athletic cup like for sports and such but he seems too much of a fattass for that
>>12057246It's not for sports. Cod pieces are used in fetishy leather stuff. Cue ball trainers are known as Skinheads in Japan and they are bikers so it fits
>>12044501Imagine fighting this on Mt Silver
>town has literal ghosts attacking people inside tower>region yakuza try to acquire technology from company that can detect ghosts>MC kid is good guy for stopping yakuza from freeing technology from megacorpwhy were mid to late 90s japanese devs into cyberpunk dystopia aesthetic so much?
>>12044103Is that guy on the bottom holding a lollipop?
>>12057823Didn't Team Rocket take the Sylph Scope so no one could follow them into the tower? They could have exorcized Marowak at any time but left her there.
>>12057006Okay zoomer.
>>12058097The only things stated are that Giovanni stole it and that they know it makes ghosts visible. It's not even clear if they used it to go up the tower since you take it from their hideout before going to the tower yourself.
>>12058079Yes, "whips and lollipops" is a japanese idiom similar to how we have "carrots and sticks" referring to the idea of a reward and punishment teaching method. That trainer class is a Tamer. Lots of people unfamiliar with jap culture wrongly assume it's an hypnosis gadget.
>>12057006Looks better than modern tranime
>>12049459quite literally:>its ok when pokemon does ityou fucking fanboys will literally say 'anything' to protect your brand loyalty. fitting how the og pokemon trainers had whips to slap obedience into their pokemon. you fuckers are no different
>>12054161https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q78F3YCroJU
>>12045043Japs definitely notice the dead reversed lapel tuck as meaningful, I've seen it in manga many times
>>12058938I used to think it was a little wooden mallet.
>>12044126What is a mon?
>>12061119I misread the way the sprite looked so I thought it was a rolled up sleeping bag on the top of his (unseen) backpack.
>>12058079>>12058938The whip and lollipop guy is still in one of the recent games.
