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>everyone talks about the jump to PS2 being the biggest ever
>DC came out 2 years earlier and looked just as good but no one talks about it

But why?
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>>12046329
I talk about the Dreamcast all the time
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People did talk about it. The most said thing about the Dreamcast was how ahead of its time it was.
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>>12046329
>>everyone talks about the jump to PS2 being the biggest ever
No one says that.
>>DC came out 2 years earlier and looked just as good but no one talks about it
This point is commonly brought up.
Lurk more.
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>>12046332
>>12046335
>>12046338
The DC's best looking game was Code Veronica. Compare that to MGS3.

I rest my case.
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>>12046329
>no one talks about the DC looking great at debut
You are either trolling or were never there.
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>>12046340
They're different hatdware and both platforms have fun games. At least pretend you like games
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>>12046329
>everyone talks about the jump to PS2 being the biggest ever
never heard this take. ps2 is known to have a HUGE library, having many good games is a consequence of that, it was inevitable. also ps2 is the highest-selling console ever, of course people will talk more about it
>no one talks about it
a lot of people talk about it, but its library cannot compare to the ps2 one (same thing with the original xbox)
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>>12046365
>ps2 one
proofread
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>>12046329
Because it failed and history is written by the victors
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People don’t talk about the Dreamcast. Arguably disproportionately to the amount it sold.
PS2 is one of the best selling consoles of all time. More people played it, therefore more people are nostalgic for it. It probably has the biggest and most diverse game library without digital shovelware. And while I think you can argue early ps2 titles at the time were actually worse looking that dc titles, eventually that was no longer the case.
Not even getting into the dvd factor. Not only was it the cheapest dvd player at the time but for many it was our first dvd player and in the age of streaming tyranny the ps2 has become a symbol for freedom and independence.
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>>12046329
OP it did look worse. It just had worse hardware. I like power stone as much as the next guy, but it looked bad even for the time.

>>12046359
He wasn't saying Code Veronica was bad, just that graphically it wasn't as good. Nobody is going to write an essay touting Nethack as the height of graphics, but that's a great game.

>>12046335
Dude I had a dreamcast. Not only did nobody talk about it being ahead of it's time. I kid you not I showed someone Powerstone, and they thought it was a ps1 port.
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>>12046376
Do talk*
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>>12046329
Nobody talks about the jump to PS2 being the biggest ever you fucking asshole.
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>>12046368
ESL? one refers to library as in "ps2 library"
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>>12046329
DC was the most impressive 6th gen console at launch. Ps2 was a step up but the gap was smaller than ps1 to DC
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Why must all compete with bleystations early dreamcasts were stronk enuff to get gid pc fags jelly
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>>12046393
Then use a possesive apostrophe.
>A lot of people talk about the Dreamcast, but the PS2's library surpasses it
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>>12046340
>Compare that to MGS3.
compare what? the frame rates? yeah mgs3's is unplayable. but hey, snake's facial model has more polygons so who cares that they cut it in half right? gotta stare at those polygons while you watch your movie game
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>>12046378
>dc the only one with the blush
also why are you so focused on powerstone, a game that no one ever said looks good? consider the difference between soul blade and soul calibur for instance and realize you're full of shit.
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>>12046378
The games will look different on different platforms because they're different hardware, and that being a graphics whore while discussing old games is pointless. Being ahead of its time refers to the Dreamcast being the first sixth gen console thus having next gen graphics first, I haven't heard anyone use Code Veronica as a benchmark, usually it's Soul Calibur which looked superior to the arcade version. Also it had an included modem at launch while the PS2 didn't
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In North America, the PS2 released 13 months after the Dreamcast.
In Japan, the PS2 released 15 months after the Dreamcast.

Dreamcast was only "next-gen" for 1 year.
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>>12046458
First is first
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>>12046329
The 3DO was on sale before playstation but very few people talk about it or its limited library. Being the first to release a flop isnt converation worthy.

Consumers were burned so many times by sega in the 90s that they likely viewed the dreamcast as the latest of many mid generation hardware leaps. Sega blurret the line with so much incremental hardware people justs topped caring.
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>>12046329
Soul Calibur on a VGA screen at a game store was an absolute fucking knockout in 1999, completely shocking even compared to anything in arcades much less some 12 FPS garbage on your PSX or N64. Of course I was a kid and didn't know shit about resolution so it was never the same on anyone's normal TV and the Dreamcast was old shit before I knew any better. The times I got shocked by the PS2 was by scale like GTA3 and not just pure graphics quality.
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>>12046329
>DC came out 2 years earlier and looked just as good
Holy shit. Sega fanatics are delusional
Dreamcast is N64, but in higher resolution and with better textures
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>>12047048
>PlayStation 2 is PlayStation, but in higher resolution and with better textures
that's what u sound like
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>>12046340
>Compare that to MGS3.
FF12's graphics are so far out here that it seems almost impossible to run it on the PS2 hardware. It actually looked better than a huge chunk of the PS3 games.

>>12046428
I don't remember any problems with the framerate.
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>>12047118
Dreamcast has nothing special going on. Pure boring and uninteresting 3D graphics from 1998~2000. Ence the comparison with the N64.
Gran Turismo 2 to Gran Turismo 3 was a monumental leap. Gran Turismo 4 got even better.
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>>12047168
>more abstract graphics
>realism? never heard of her.
>simpler, less cluttered UI
>clearer presentation, none of the fuzziness of PS2 like you've put on grandpa's eyeglasses
>far better music
>skybox makes you feel that distance
not saying GT3 is anything less than great but Y2k had different fish to fry.
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>>12047168
those both look great, what's your point
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>>12047424
>>12047405
Not him but it's half the framerate come on bro.
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>>12046458
>there are 13 months in a year
>there are 15 months in a year
did the ps2 launch with online capability lol
or games you could actually see through the smear
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>>12047168
GT4 is renowned for looking worse than GT3, everyone can now see you're full of shit, weren't there, never will be there and will never experience the games you claim to enjoy in the proper context, broccoli boy.
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>>12047450
>literally unplayable
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>>12046437
>Why are you so focused on powerstone
I like it.

>>12046443
Yeah if you were buying a console in 1998, it was one year ahead of it's time. They all had adapters, the dreamcast included.



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