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Discuss games where you have to evolve, and e.g. start out as a fish.

Two games I know of and have played:

E.V.O.: Search for Eden (SNES)
Seventh Cross: Evolution (Dreamcast)

This genre was absolute kino. We need(ed) more games like these. Spore was decent but the aggressive DRM killed it for me.
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>>12049216
>We need(ed) more games like these.

Agreed. What other ones are there to bring up in this thread, even? Of course there's the PC-98 E.V.O. game, but that doesn't offer interestingly detailed evolution mechanics the way the SNES one does. I guess there are a few simulation games that let you design creatures' bodies by part, like I dunno maybe Creatures or SimLife? Not sure. But that's not having YOU evolve. Maybe there's some mech game that mechanically mimics this by letting you gradually unlock more and more advanced and exotic parts for your walking robot, even though the theme has nothing to do with biology? But that's not gonna have the same feeling.
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>>12049216
synthetic man told me this game sucks
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>>12050284
It's very good in concept and starts off strong and interesting, but falls significantly in chapter 2.
Most of levels are uninteresting and have these 5 second soundbites on a loop as background music. Messing around with evolutions is alright but a bit grindy.

I'm not saying it's terrible or anything, but it's simply one of that has really good ideas and could have been legendary but fumbled the execution.
It's ok to play it at least once and see for yourself since it's so short.
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does this count as a remake? if so it might be the single non-cashgrab remake ever. they turned a truly bizarre piece of art that wasn't a good game but was a great piece of art into a good game.
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I don't know how you would rationalize this into an actually good game without making the evolution part feel paper thin (I almost wrote "vestigial" instead of paper thin).
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On topic, there's SimLife & SimEarth, Cubivore, and Jade Cocoon. Not retro, but there's also Niche and Thrive (both inspired by Spore), while Slime Rancher lets you create hybrid slimes with traits from both "parents." However, the hybrid can't combine any further, limiting how well it represents evolution. Note that a DRM-free version of Spore is currently available on GOG, although you do need to create & use an EA account for online features.
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Lack of Love.
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>>12050284
I don't know what that thing you're referring to is but it was wrong. This game is great. But as >>12050569 says, its level design is mostly very weak, and there are a few other serious problems with it. You have to have certain tastes to love it I guess, when it deserves to be a major classic for almost everybody (but isn't).

>>12050587
I wouldn't call it that. The mechanics are completely different between the two games, and the stories are very different as well, though many concepts are shared. You could call it a reimagining or something I guess.



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