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Why is it just not as good as the newer ones?
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>>12052874
the newer ones aren't good either. this series was always just mediocre carried by a cute character and cute graphics
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>>12052876
This. It's a subpar Castlevania series. I wish it was as good as the "fans"(gooners) pretend it is. Original design is best Shantae design though. I have nothing against anime, but i hate how with every new game she further devolves into a moeblob.
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>>12052876
>>12052917
I've never understood this. I know they're not masterpieces, but what's bad about them so as to bring them down to "mediocre"? To me, they're perfectly entertaining and fun little games. Nothing life changing, but there's a lot worse out there. The first one is probably the worst due to its awkward controls, though.
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>>12052874
I have tried to play every single shantae and drop them pretty early on
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>no map

A metroidvania lives and dies by its map system and this game doesn't even have one.
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>>12052970
not true.
metroid 1 problem isn't the map.
metroid 2 doesn't have a map and it's excellent.
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>>12052991
No one plays those two. Don't go all snob with me being "I play Metroid 2 yearly, it's fine"
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>>12052970
It doesn't have large and complex enough areas for no map to matter much.
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No vaginas
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>>12052996
They were both pretty bad games that were only made good with the remakes/fan remakes that took the good concepts in them and used the Super Metroid gameplay models.
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>>12052874
shantae was never deserving of the praise it gets
it's not bad, but it's not exceptional in any way either

>>12053019
>only made good with the remakes
this is how you know you're talking to a 15 year old
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>>12053051
Anon the remake of Metroid 1 was in the early 2000s for GBA. It is over 20 years old now.
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>>12053051
People who defend the original Metroids are fucking retarded. You can like the game, I don't care, but to say they're serviceable at all is ass backwards. It feels like playing fucking Asteroids compared to literally any Metroid game that came out after Super. It might've not been the first, but Super literally made Metroid what it is. It's when the series came into its own and they finally had the technology to pull of what they wanted to. This is why every game since then has Super's DNA all over it.
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>>12053063
and? it's a sentiment held exclusively be people who weren't there, regardless of game
you were born too late and never got to play the original without your perception being colored by a remake

>>12053070
>it's not like the later ones and that makes it bad!
genuinely filtered
the same kind of person who thinks zelda 2 is a bad game
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>>12052876
What's wrong with TPC and Shantae Advance?
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>>12053073
I was born in 1982. I tried the original Metroid and Metroid 2 and didn't like them. They weren't even top 10 games on their own system. Zero Mission is just a better game and Nintendo got outdone on their own Metroid 2 remake by AM2R.
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>>12053076
>I was born in 1982
so you just have bad taste
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>>12052874
She's cute. Cute boobs too.
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>>12052874
It's bad because the main attack, the hair whip, has no range and you usually just end up hurting yourself trying to fight enemies. The overworld is also annoying to traverse because the platforming will often make you have to take leaps of faith and enemies just seem to jump out on top of you. I mean, it's not shit, but it has so many problems that were addressed in later games that going back to it makes you notice all the cracks.
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>>12052876
>>12052917
What irritates me the most is that they use these really shitty chibi pngs for Shantae in gameplay instead of how she looks in dialogue and on the cover. Sex appeal is a big part of this game yet I have to look at this weird thing. It's just a png on a 2D background with very little animation. Really not a challenge to make her look more accurate.
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>>12052876
Pirate's Curse is a legit good game but the rest are pretty mediocre I agree
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None of them are very good. The characters are just very easy to jack off to.
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Not including future games DLCs, Shantae GBC still probably has the most content a Shantae game ever had. Even for a late GBC game it's still incredible how much shit they could cram in here that even later entries don't have.
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rotty tops, my beloved
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They decided to go with every decision to not make the game fun. Your basic attack is short ranged and enemies take forever to kill. You can eventually get new moves but they are a MASSIVE gem sink so you'd need to grind gems through enemy spawners and mini games. The moves often weren't even that good because they'd often put you in danger in getting hit. Transformations take forever to do. You have to initiate the dance sequence, then go through two different button taps for a transformation. Not only that but enemies still move as you're transforming so they can just walk on top of you and you just take damage when the animation finishes.
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>>12053149
Is it really PNG? Seems to me that she's animated by some rigged vector graphics system.
Only played on the Switch & Wii U, so can't really check the higher resolutions. But if you manage to scale the graphics up and I'm right, things will never appear pixelated.
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>>12053149
that is such a downgrade from the 16 bit style. i hate it
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Shantae girls are made for vicious paizuri
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>>12052874
Are the newer ones really that good? I've played the first three, and they decline in quality from one to Risky's Revenge to the Pirate's Curse.
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>>12053934
no
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>>12053934
They're good if you want them to be. The mind makes it real.
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>>12053979
So no.
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>>12053149
A girl can very much be cute and sexy at the same time, moe is about fuckability just as much as it is plutonic cute so if anything they just segmented it (and look at how often Louise is drawn chibi). Plus Shantae's portraits usually carry the same dopey apparance her sprite does, just with bigger tits.
Still haven't played Half Genie Hero though I'm not trying to defend it.
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>>12052996
mfw you're on the very board for that
and nta but I do with the first game
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>>12052874
It's just pretty rough. The map layout is confusing and enemies tend to spawn way too close to you while your attack is too short. And at times it feels like farming for gems is necessary.
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>>12052874
>Why is it just not as good as the newer ones?
The better question is why is pirate curse the only good one?
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I find the sprites to just be too big. Everything feels so cramped. I can easily play the other games but going back to the first one is tough.
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>>12052874
The only reason people care about Shantae is because it made their dick twitch.
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>>12054880
You say that like it's a bad thing. I never played the game but I fapped to its cover :)
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>>12052874
The newer ones aren't exactly stellar either. The Shantae series is kind of an incompetent wetsern Goemon counterpart, the games do not know what they are meant to be they just mimic some other stuff and blend it together without any real thought.
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>>12053248
>Pirate's Curse is a legit good game
PC is an absolute exercise of mediocrity, anything outside of the dungeons is worthless, time wasting horse shit, and the dungeons themselves are low effort bare bones, and then most of the bosses suck.
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>>12052874
Oh look it’s monster world 4



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