Where do I get started with this genre?
raiden
>>12055568Aero fighters
>>12055582>>12055584memoshitgo play an actually good game like judgement silversword or eschatos
If you want something that eases you more into the genre and is beatable for newbies check out Elemental Master and Thunder Force III.
>>12055568Gradius III. I refuse to accept any alternative starting point
The first games I really enjoyed were Gleylancer, Sonic Wings Special and Raiden Trad. I still haven't beaten Raiden Trad. Like >>12055631 said, Elemental Master is also really cool and fairly easy. Twinkle Tale is another good, easy one if you prefer cuteshit over spaceshit, but it's not a traditional forced scrolling shmup and is more of a run and gun. It's fun though.
>>12055646>>12055584Sonic wings and aerofighters are the same game, just to be clear for OP. And yes very fun shmup with some wackiness thrown in for good measure. Great starting point.
>>12055568Batsugun Special, DoDonPachi, or Touhou 6/7/8For horizontal, play Jikkyou Oshaberi Parodius ~forever with me~ because it's kino
>>12055568I'd like tell you but this is a blue board
>>12055568Novice mode for Crimzon Clover or Mushihimesama. Maybe easy mode touhou. Deathsmiles is also pretty easy too and a good way to learn about scoring and extend mechanics in shmups.Speaking of Touhou, has anyone played the newest danmaku festival? It was pretty fun. I havent really played much touhou since I got more into cave shmups, but i was surprised how easy it felt compared to when I played touhou a long time ago.
>>12055568Arcade:Dodonpachi - A-Laser/C-Laser/C-Shot 1-ALLDonpachi - USA Version 1-ALLDodonpachi Daioujou Black Label - A-EX/B-EX 1-ALLBatsungun Special - Beltiana 1-ALLArmed Police Batrider - Training and Normal CourseBattle Bakraid - Training and Normal CourseEspgaluda - AgehaMushihimesama - Original ModeBlazing Star - Peplos with Autofire1945 Part-2 (Battle Garegga Hack) - Golden Bat/Miyamoto/Gain 1-ALLFire Barrel / Air Assault - 1-ALLSengoku Ace - Aine/Shinden 1-ALLStorm Blade - Camel 1-ALLPC/Doujin:Touhou 7 Perfect Cherry BlossomTouhou 8 Imperishable NightBlue Wish Resurrection+Eden's AegisDemolition GunnerSonic IronstormEX ExtraOdd Mobs Zero ArrangePrecious StarEclosionAny shmup made by Outside (freeware and steam version) - Like Dreamer/REDNEG/CosmoDreamer...Console:M2 Ports and their custom modes: Super Easy/Premium Mode/Deathtiny Mode/Arrange Mode
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>>12055967pics or it didn't happenalso didn't happen even with picsinb4 p-p-post ur clears
>>12056074Bro, what the hell? It can't get easier than that. Anything I listed can be cleared within 4 hours of attempts or less if you already have experience with the genre. None of this is supposed to sound "impressive". It's just shit to fill your 1cc collection with easy clears.
>>12056109>It's just shit to fill your 1cc collection with easy clears.What's the point of that?
>>12056139OP asked how to get into the genre, so I listed a few entry-level games that aren't frustration inducing to the point you just game over non-stop. Now if you already play shmups for years, nothing stops you from giving those games a try. It's just that they aren't that interesting difficulty wise (not counting second loops or scoring route) if you are already good enough to clear Mushi Maniac/Ultra, DOJWL, Garegga, Ketsui, SDOJ, Batrider Advanced, 2hu Lunatic, Tatsujin Oh...
>>12056160I'm not asking about what's the point of playing an easier shmup by itself, I meant why trying to "fill a 1cc collection" and especially specifically with easier games.
>>12056162It's just an old /shmupg/ meme. Some anon used to get really mad at people 1ccing shmups and moving to the next game without exploring the mechanics and scoring aspects. IIRC it was something about this threadhttps://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?t=1944
>>12056175shmupg deserved to die, but I think that anon had a point.Less because of the scoring and more because trying to 1cc many easy games feels like a chore compared to learning progressively harder games.
>>12056178shmupg never diesCee the chav is going to do BMX stunts on your forehead for implying such a thing
>>12056215Looks very dead to me.
>>12055568Gate of Thunder and Out Zone were specifically made to be starter games for newbies. (Though the latter isn't a full shmup).Also adding Air Buster to the list. It's simple but really good.
>>12056364Mr. Hitler Rape Groyper sir you seem to be missing any Gradius or Parodius games except for the first one
what's this saymy image translator software cannot read this shit
After playing a decent amount of Jikkyou Oshaberi Parodius I think this is how I'd rank the charactersAny disagreementsAnyone like this game other than me
>>12056364>Googled "best shmups"
I just realized Yu-Gi-Oh started releasing AFTER every single Parodius game already came outSo Koitsu, Soitsu, Doitsu, and Aitsu are Parodius ORIGINALS, and were then referenced in Yu-Gi-OhI just assumed they were a Yu-Gi-Oh reference the whole time, like Twin-Bee and Kid Dracula are to their games
>>12056667Yu-Gi-Oh wiki says as much
I started by playing DOJ as my first shmup and even though I haven't played other games in the genre yet, it feels like a game I could play for my entire life without running out of things to do.Find a game with visuals, sound, or a general look/gameplay loop that appeals to you. You won't know shit about what you'll like before you try it. I knew I wanted to have a ton of bullets on the screen, so I went with a bullet hell that looked good to me. If you find whatever you chose boring, play something else.
>>12056554<記録の読みこみと保存>記録の読みこみ記録の保存ゲームにもどる
>>12056858thanksi knew this game had in-game saves but i had no idea how to do it until now
>>12056217And yet here you are, in this thread, with AT LEAST three of old /shmupg/ regulars, still shitposting all the same stuff.
>>12057212This isn't /shmupg/ and you aren't welcome here.
>>12055568>let old thread die>make a new thread pretending to be a retarded newfagOkay I'm done with /vr/
>>12056840>I started by playing DOJ as my first shmupRough.I couldn't tell you which one was my first shmup, because I have played a lot of random arcade games and especially on amiga as a young lad. Might unironically be space invaders if it counts.
I'm kind of vibing with DDP more than with DOJ. I haven't played Donpachi yet but so far DDP is the only game in the series that's really clicking with me from the get go. I'm thinking I'll learn this and revisit the others.
OP here, thanks for all the recs, anons. I'll probably start with Elemental Master, then play the other games mentioned here after it.>>12057243What the actual fuck are you talking about
>>12057243Threads on /vr/ autosage after 2 weeks you retarded newfaggot
>>12057536Yeah DDP's awesome. I once posted a shmup 3x3 on /v/ and this one faggot kept asking why DDP over DOJ like a sequel is somehow a fucking straight upgrade and you can't prefer the earlier game for some reason
>>12057678In the case of DOJ, I would say it did almost everything better
bumpa
What are your top 3 dadshmups on both the PS1 and PS2? Looking for recs.
>>12058598Raiden DX, Darius Gaiden, Gradius V
>>12055568space invaders
>>12058598>What are your top 3 dadshmups on both the PS1 and PS2? Looking for recs.einhander psyvariar and R type delta my fren
don't see it mentioned oftenPsyvariar: Complete Edition ps2https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04ImDdHHrz4taito game too
>>12058665Yup, they don't make em like they used to
>>12057674I'm not posting in a faggot thread like this one. OPs been trying to do this all week.
>>12058928Why is it empty tho
>>12058928There's a sign saying not to take photos nigger.
>>12058984Ok arcade janny
>>12058928>The music for most of the games in the pic were composed by one guy
I think this is retardedI understand how it developed, but it's still retardedIt's retarded how it survived to future games as wellNo one making Japanese arcade games ever thought "HMMMMM MAYBE HAVING THE TWO MAIN SHOT BUTTONS FAR APART AND HAVING THE BOMB IN THE MIDDLE IS A STUPID FUCKING IDEA"
>>12055568R-Type GBC
>>12059096A button can be used both for shot and laser, don't hold autofire when you need to switch quickly.
Broken weapons, and a fun good game for beginners.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jpQZvJVeQI&list=PLREYF4RnDeQD-FYJSNX2D0dSP7E69hGjv&index=5
>bomb this secret spot to get a bajillion extra points >Also half the characters are locked behind the Konami codeI don't really like it
>>12058984>There's a sign saying not to take photos niggerThats really more so people dont record people trying to play. You'll see people recording their own screen pretty often.
>>12059652>bomb this secret spot to get a bajillion extra pointsNot really a real issue. Magazines and word of mouth were a thing back then and you could watch other players find these spots in the real arcade. Now is it a bad game design? No. The game encourages you to bomb A LOT and it's even good for survival runs, since destroying certain spots cause enemies not to spawn (stage 4 and 6).>Also half the characters are locked behind the Konami codeI honestly consider it a bad game design for the original arcade release, but it was solved a long time ago with emulation/save state and Zakk's patch and most recently with the 2016 port qol features. Not sure how it works in the Saturn version tho.
>>12059652What Game ?
What do you think of Game Tengoku CrusinMix Special?
I'm on the third day of my attempt to finish 1942 (Capcom Arcade Version). I made it into the top 20 in the rankings and managed to get halfway through the game.But it's more of an endurance test. Not only is the game long, but it's also a bit repetitive, and you have to stay focused for an entire hour, doing pretty much the same thing over and over again.The game isn't bad, I like how the enemies put pressure on you and reduce your space, but holy shit, the game is archaic overall. I don't know if I'll have the willpower to finish it.
>>12059652You aren't supposed to like "it". It was made for your ancient ancestors.
>>12058828>OPs been trying to do this all weekdo what exactly
>>12059858It really changed my view of the game. I like to start these blind and then after a while look up what other people are doing in their clears and it changed the way I feel about a run if I don't kill that many birbs and have to wait a bit for the extend. The ships thing just feels weird aesthetically. To be honest I still like playing wild snail the most.
>>12059096The Mushi machine at >>12058928 also has 3 different additional fire speed buttons so that you can do super shot. Leaves you playing with a sort of claw grip.
>>12060174I just cleared futari bl on the cab next to it a few weeks ago
I would like to thanks the anon from the previous thread that told me to try Garegga's Extended Mode. At first I was afraid of trying to go for it, even after finishing countless No Miss runs. Well, today I did my first run and I somehow made it to 2-6 Boss. Man... I can't believe I have the chance to be the first player outside japan to get a Garegga 2-ALL. It can take a whole year, but I'll definitely get it. All thanks to anon's advice.
>>12060751Post it
>>12060953I'm the only person outside japan actively playing this game. You can easily find my run on youtube, but here's my backup just in case.https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IFWKFLKIfu5FlAkbaWEAkSQMptWItFNx/viewFUCK! I'm addicted to this shit. I even dropped my daily gacha habits after starting doing No Miss runs. It feels amazing to be able to consistently clear this game. This game will be 30yo next year and only a few weeks ago I started doing No Miss runs and for some reason nobody outside japan ever did No Miss until now. For a game this popular, you would expect at least one No Miss run from the western shmup community after all these years. Yeah I know, the route to keep the rank low can be a little boring for some people, but that's what makes it so interesting for me. And now I'm on my way to do the same with Extended Mode. This one won't be easy, but it will be more fun than trying to NMNB with the trash ships that don't have piercing shot (silver sword, flying baron, chitta and bornnam).
>>12061105Okay I saw your run, the precision on display is quite a marvel. Very nice, anon.
>>12056585Updated, this is probably a little more accurate
>>12061164Yeah, hopefully I didn't abuse my luck in that run. I'm sure I can make it to BH2, but Glow Squid is gonna be a massive wall if I don't stockpile bombs and extra lives. And that's only for his first phase. His second phase can go terribly wrong, because it's entirely RNG based.
>>12061253actually yknow twinbee kinda sucks
