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This game is overrated as fuck, literally a on rails movie that people shit on FF13 for. And the plot isn't even compelling with a bland cast of characters and heaps of melodrama / cheesy romance reminiscent of Titanic. Most overrated game on the PS2 besides Silent Hill 2
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>>12055904
>This game is overrated as fuck, literally a on rails movie that people shit on FF13 for. And the plot isn't even compelling with a bland cast of characters and heaps of melodrama / cheesy romance reminiscent of Titanic.
correct
>Most overrated game on the PS2 besides Silent Hill 2
nah silent hill 2 is correctly rated
on that note FF12 is underrated
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>>12055904
>plot isnt even compelling
>bland cast of characters
you either didnt beat the game, watched it on jewtube, or just a soulless NPC retard but most likely all of the above. if ffx story and characters suck then so does every other jrpg ever made.
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>>12055904
FFX has towns and 13 does not
FFX has an airship that lets you revisit areas for sidequests and 13 does not
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>>12055904
didn't read but kino game, OP.
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>>12055904
So is your mom but I still banged her anyway
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>>12055904
>This game is overrated as fuck,
by some and its balanced out by retarded haters like you
>literally a on rails movie that people shit on FF13 for.
Kind of but not to the degree that xiii was
>And the plot isn't even compelling
Its pretty good, but ff has had better
>with a bland cast of characters
Lmao what
>and heaps of melodrama / cheesy romance reminiscent of Titanic.
Youre a machild
>Most overrated game on the PS2 besides Silent Hill 2
Laying it on a little too think bro, good bait up until then.
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>>12055928
>on that note FF12 is underrated
no, it's a shit game with no direction.
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>>12055904
Lulu has big tits, shut up. The game rocks and you are stupid.
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>>12055996
>ffx story
Yuna is boring, and I don’t care about her at all. The game sucks her up so much, the NTR-bait marriage and cuck sacrifice is just woman tier drama
>characters suck
FFX probably has the worst character design of any game of all time. Not a single character is memorable, they all look terrible. Even the character meant to appeal to furryfaggots who’ll like anything is forgettable, grim.
>soulless NPC retard
the same ones who worship this game to death like you? lol
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>>12055904
This was the beginning of the end of FF
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>>12055904
I love FFX and SH2, and no amount of screeching will change that.
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>>12055904
This game is what people accuse FFVII of
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>>12056676
What, being a good game? I mean yeah they're both good games.
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>>12055904
>This game is overrated as fuck
I've been saying this for years. The battle system is it's one saving grace. Shame you have to put up with the rest
>Most overrated game on the PS2 besides Silent Hill 2
I personally love Silent Hill 2. Playing through the Enhanced Edition right now.
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>another XIII apologist thread trying to tie it to a much better game
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>>12055904
A lot of FFX criticism is a case of "in hindsight" which is fair enough, FF13's criticism mirroring FFX's faults right after the massive world and duungeons of FF12 is justified.
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>>12055904
Kill yourself
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Did they finally get rid of the shitty ATB system in that game? Thinking about giving this a go actually because I tried playing 4-9 and just couldn't because of the combat
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>>12057462
Sadly they did. 4-9 was the peak of the series and 10 was the beginning of the end. Still a great game though. X-2 brings back ATB and it's awesome there.
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>>12057471
ATB just never clicked with me for some reason, could never get into 4-9 and that's coming from someone who managed to slog through the original version of 2. Will give 10 a try now, honestly the art direction makes it look like it's absolutely my kind of game but I've heard it doesn't have an overworld and it's linear but whatever, if it's classic turn-based combat with charming 6th gen graphics like DQ8 then I'll most likely enjoy the game
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>>12055904
>This game is overrated as fuck, literally a on rails movie that people shit on FF13 for.
Agreed. Though 10 is better about this by far.
>And the plot isn't even compelling with a bland cast of characters and heaps of melodrama / cheesy romance reminiscent of Titanic.
The characters certainly are not bland, but overall yeah I agree, the story focuses on melodrama. FF8 did this too.
>Most overrated game on the PS2 besides Silent Hill 2
Now THIS is contrarianism.
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It's not exactly like DQ8 turn-based where you have rounds. It uses the "CTB" (Conditional Turn-Based Battle) system, which is kinda like ATB but not real-time. You can see the turn orders, which are based on party member and enemy speeds, and certain abilities and statuses can change the turn order. Pretty common in RPGs now, you've probably seen something similar if you play a lot.

I prefer ATB more, but it works well in X. A lot of people who don't like ATB like X's battle system the most, so you might appreciate it too.
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>>12057508
Well that's interesting, sounds fun, my biggest gripe with ATB is that it's real time and even if you set it 'Wait' it still feels wrong
>A lot of people who don't like ATB like X's battle system the most, so you might appreciate it too.
Then I'll definitely enjoy it
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>>12055904
No shit. The railmap instead of an overworld was a major complaint back then. But it did have a good tory.
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>>12055904
>>12055928
Both these games were the first FFs I just completely tuned out of and didn't finish. The plots just didn't hook me at all. Earlier FFs grabbed my attention and made me want to find out what would happen next.
But that said at least 10's gameplay required strategy to get by.
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>>12057628
I finished FFX multiple times over the years. I do like the story. However FFXII does have me doing waning interest. After a while it starts to feel like dungeon crawler. I do like that it's the first FF with a "post-game" to keep on going, questing for bounty monsters, and stuff even though at that point it's not really anything you can make of it.
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This
>>12057569
Remember that we went from
6 - Go wherever you want
7 - Go wherever you want
8 - Go wherever you want
9 - Go wherever you want
10 - Go wherever you want later

And it worked. 10 was not about freedom. 10 was about the protagonists being absolutely fucked over by the straightforward task they all knew they were there to do. Even Rikku knew. If it weren't for Tidus it would have all been completely on rails, no nonsense pilgrimage.

And so there was controversy when it released.
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>>12055904
So, is it worth importing a PAL copy of this game or is the extras not worth the hassle?
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>>12055904
even /v/, right now, has a 300+ replies thread going on with a interesting discussion about the lore
/vr/ is truly flooded by bored retarded contrarians.
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10 was a good game
12 was a good game
both games were on the same system

I don't understand the mindset where in order to like a thing you must dislike another
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>>12057785
Plus the sidequests were sources of mega-rage, especially lightning dodger, chocobo trainer, and butterfly catcher. It was a far cry from Chocobo hot-n-cold or triple triad.
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>>12058997
>I don't understand the mindset where in order to like a thing you must dislike another
Autism.
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>>12055904
>This game is overrated
Proof?
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It was really fucking good when it came out. Its still good, just not as much. Remember this motherfucker had TOTAL VOICE ACTING. Absolutely insane.
The story was alright, the character designs are great. Boss fights are fun. As for the writing quality, its a fucking final fantasy game. What were you expecting, Shakespeare?
Its no King Lear but we got a decent Romeo and Juliet + anime boss fights and big tits, what more do you people need
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>>12060240
Panzer Dragoon Saga had 100% voice acting and a 3D open world on the Saturn
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>>12060240
>TOTAL VOICE ACTING
not really, npcs that you talk to are unvoiced. also, sakura taisen and other games did that five years earlier. thinking voice acting for main characters in the main story as something innovative in 2001 is actually insane
>character designs are great
they literally look like indians going to a carnaval. ffx has the worst character design in the entire franchise.
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>>12057819
The Japanese International version is in English and has all the same extras as the PAL version. The PAL version of FFX is just the Japanese International edition but cucked to 50Hz; and for such a long game, the slower PAL speeds will end up wasting hours and hours of your life. And using GSM to force 60Hz will just break all the FMVs so don't even bother with that.

The extras don't matter at all if you're in it for the story, since the extras are all just postgame grinding for new superbosses.
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>>12060240
>As for the writing quality, its a fucking final fantasy game. What were you expecting, Shakespeare?
7, 9, 10 had good writing, among the best of video games at the time
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>>12060918
Actually after thinking about it more thoroughly, I'm raising 8 to the same status of having good writing
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>>12055904
this and kingdom sharts had the best menus of 6th gen
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>>12055904
Titanic is one of the greatest movies of all time.
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>>12055904
It`s proof that presentation can carry a mediocre game. It looks and sounds good, so nothing else matters

At least the combat system is good, although it gets repetitive by the end
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If you were to swap Teedus with Squall, the game would be 100% better.



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