It's basically an Ultimate 64 fpga motherboard but with all new keyboard, case and also gay disco lights if you're into that. I got the base model just because I can't be arsed to fiddle about with original hardware and just want to play a bit of Paradroid or Forbidden Forest now and then on my CRT like the old days
>>12060139https://www.4chan.org/advertise
I'd love to get into C64 but it seems like it's not very valuable without the scene and culture around it. And for that I'd have to be gen X and probably European
>>12060648What does that gobbledygook mean? Valuable? Community? I would have to be X or Y? Try enjoying what you enjoy and now being a mindwarped zoomer. You might find it more valuable being part of a mental illness reddit community
>>12060648Not enough nintendo mascots for you?
>>12060139Founders Edition looks great NGL. Starlight looks puke inducing, unless the RGB is addressable.
>>12060648> it's not very valuable without the scene and culture around it.it's a mixed bag. as history has shown with the the c64 and its many expansions released over the years, not much software will end up supporting all the expansions. most people buying them are going to be running software that needs nothing more than stock config.
>>12061035>most sane FPGA hater
>>12060648>it's not very valuable without the scene and culture around it.
>>12061061They're fine. The Gold editions are even better.
>>12061061>but how good are the Ultima games on c64?Awful of course. Search Majuular Ultima Retrospective on youtube, the videos have 'Ports' chapter you can compare.
>>12061061I think they're fine, I played I, II, III, and IV on my C64 back in the day, and redid I a few years ago.
>>12061061there are optimized versions for the C64 which are pretty good (Ultima 3 Gold, Ultima IV Remastered, Ultima V Remastered)
>>12061135>up as jump>is.... le badTerrible meme opinion, and virtually every fighting game out there is laughing at you for repeating it
>>12061135it's always amazing watching americans having a mental breakdown over a machine they created and the end result was america not being able to compete at any level with the rest of the world when it came to coding software for it. wonderful to witness.
>>12061135Play it with an actual joystick instead of a console gamepad.
>>12061149>the rest of the worldJust say Germany and the UK.
>>12060139why are they just selling a keyboard?
>>12060662>try enjoying what you enjoy and now being a mindwarped zoomertry not being a fucking retard>you might find it more valuable being part of a mental illness reddit communityas opposed to what, a mental illness 4chan community?
>>12062354Irrelevant. There is literally nothing wrong with using up for jump, it's a meme borne out of youtubers who get professionally mad about videogames for entertainment purposes.
>kill all your moment when jumpingoh noanyway
>>12061149
>>12060648interesting take but you can basically get the same experience that I did growing up in the early 90s by reading Zzap64! and playing the same 150 or so games on tape. There was nothing else to it. I didn't have Compunet so I never saw a single demo.>>12061035fpga is an acceptable compromise since real C64 hardware is an unreliable pain in the ass. I would have to spend $1000 to get the functionality of this new edition, and still wouldnt be able to play PAL shit on my USA TV. If this version has that Ultimate motherboard, then it has a framebuffer so you can do 50hz PAL over 60hz hdmi
>>12060682i think the LEDs are sound reactive but you can probably customize it
Tech specsCore: AMD Xilinx Artix-7 FPGAMemory: 128MB DDR2 RAM (16 MB system, 16 MB REU, 16 MB GeoRAM (soon), remaining MB RAM Disk), 16MB NOR flashVideo:1080p @ 50Hz (PAL) or 60Hz (NTSC)HDMI-certifiedVirtually Zero-lagDVI-compatible via HDMIAnalog via DIN-8: CVBS, S-Video, or RGBAudio:2 × SID sockets (6581/8580) with auto voltage and filter detectionUltiSID octal core FPGA SID emulationSID-TAP headerOn board piezo speaker for disk sounds and moreControls:Rocker switch (power, reset, menu, freeze)Storage & Compatibility:Operating System: Standard Commodore 64 or GEOSUSB thumbdrives: FAT, FAT32, exFATFile formats: .D64, .D71, .D81, .G64, .T64, .TAP, .PRG, .ROM, and moreCommodore 64 ROMs will be included under license or via guided ROM setup on first bootISO-9660 image supportIntegrated Ultimate-II+ functionality with tape emulation and DMA loaderKeyboard:66-key mechanicalGateron Pro 3.0 55g switches (PTFE-free non-toxic lubed)Original C64 layout and shapesN-Key Rollover (NKRO): Press multiple keys at once - every one registers. No missed inputs.Macros: Run long commands with a single keystroke.Industry standard stabilizers and wiresLighting:Standard Power LED (red)Case and keyboard lighting available only on Starlight and Founders Edition models
>>12062765That's super cool, but man, for $300 I could buy two MiSTers. I want one, but I can't see any way to justify shelling out that much. Sucks.
>>12062765>N-Key Rollover (NKRO): Press multiple keys at once - every one registers. No missed inputs.Isn't that bad in the context of C64 emulation?
>>12062787Smart man.You could buy a mister, and make your own home made laptop that can emulate all old computers for the price.
>>12062787300 isn't much. I have a mister and plenty of og c64 and peripherals and this tempts me
>>12063009It's enough when you're a broke old man with no income.
>>12060139huh guess those mini-itx cases didn't sell too well.awkward to build in, have to drill your own dc jack hole, but at least mine has a floppy drive and does amiga shit
>>12062295the computer is inside the keyboard case
>>12060139Good luck cause each of these faggot modern revisionist models always default to HDMI because absolutely gay niggers can't be bothered to use the real deal.The idea to just use a MisterPi works in this scenario
>>12063043RPI with emu is good enough.
>>12065372Can I plug in all my old peripherals?
>>12065401You can hook up C64 joysticks directly to the Pi IO pins, if those are the peripherals you're talking about.https://retropie.org.uk/docs/GPIO-Modules/
>>12065406I got disk drives and shit, including many old floppies that I'd still like to transfer if I can get anything off of them.
>>12065401No but if you're a poor person it's ok to emulate.
>>12065418There are ways to connect Commodore peripherals to your PC, I used to do it over parallel port but now you can do via USB.
some youtuber brought commodore recently
>>12065569I hate that faggot so much. Literal showboat Gen X piece of shit that adds zero value but just flaunts.That company won't be saved in the way fans really want.They're just catering towards retards that bought the Mini versions of microcomputers. Sad to the fucking max imo.I'll be honest, even real hardware scene is crazy stupid expensive too. Too many bitches demanding $200+ for shit that could be easily done with PCBWay or Chinese factories.I hope someone like Taki rounds up the Chinamen to get the price down but couples this shit into a better presentable package for actual microcomputers.I hope after he's done coping with the PlayStation variant of the MisterPi, he does Apple II, C64, Amiga, or DOS era stuff.That would be king.Until then, just get a 3D printer, build a wedge case and stuff a fucking MisterPi or Pi 4/5 in there, get the VGA hat, and have a good time
>>12060139The turbo mode C64 idea is actually fucking BASED. 14MHz of 6502 joy.Much better than the gay "C64" Pi-in-a-box type things that came out a few years ago.>>12060648It's fun and easy to program, of all the 8-bit micros it's probably the easiest to work with. CPU is simple, the BASIC implementation has been enhanced to take advantage of the hardware. It might be the easiest machine to program of all time.
>>12062765Holy balls that's a lot of RAM.
>>12065514Almost everybody in the C64 scene today writes their code on VICE, it has extensive comfort features. Even if coding a demo which is to be ran on original hardware.
>>1206611616MB is crazy, how is it managed? Paged?
>>12065921>get a 3D printer, build a wedge case and stuff a fucking MisterPi or Pi 4/5 in there, get the VGA hat, and have a good timeI have a job and I want something that looks and functions like a C64 instead of a grotbox with a bunch of wires sticking out of it. I have no idea why anyone would have a problem with fans buying their favorite retro brand and putting out good products for other fans.>>12066115>Much better than the gay "C64" Pi-in-a-box type things that came out a few years ago.Yes, I had one for a short while and the base of the joystick snapped. You had to use the joystick to navigate the menus. The keyboard was also really cheap and flimsy. Hoping for much better quality with these new C64s.>>12066116I think you can use the 16mb as a ram disk for GEOS, which Iis built-in and switchable from the standard blue BASIC startup. Just having wifi on a C64 would have blown my mind in 1991 let alone all the other stuff..Commodore is also selling ArcadeR joysticks but for me the old Zipstik is perfect and most of them probably still work after 40+ years.
>>12065921He fills a niche.No need to hate the guy.He fills the CONSUME BASED ON NOSTALGIA NOW THAT IM LOADED ON CASH viewer base.There are enough repair channels.That said, his wife disgusts me.
>>12066703Retard, you can customize the backplates of any of the wedge case 3D print models.But you wouldn't know since you talk out of your ass. Stupid faggot bitch.
>>12065331omg no way :O
>>12066935You sound upset anon, wanna talk about it?
>>12066927Well guess what bitch, not everyone WANTS to spend $300+ for a one trick pony so fuck off.
>>12066979You'll pay it, or I'll sue.We own the rights to commodore now buddy.You so much as MENTION commodore on youtube, Im coming for your basement dwelling ass!
>>12066964Dude you're making up cons when you can clearly change it to VGA and composite like God intended instead of retarded ass HDMI.
>>12066985Get fucked you grifter piece of shit. Every time I see your stupid ass 70s serial killer glasses, I wanna punch you in the fucking face.You are the reason most people can't have nice things. You're the type of faggot that hoards Commodore monitors and every Amiga machine possible.I'm glad that FPGA exists but pity your mother for your existence. Pathetic piece of shit.
>>12066935when your substantial autistic tits stop jiggling with rage over a minor disagreement on the internet, I will explain once more that i have a job so my time has value and I will be buying a C64 that looks exactly like a real C64 but with a new mechanical keyboard and full featured fpga motherboard as detailed above.
>>12067003Whoa, cool it bro.I was just doing a bit of the old "roleplay".Don't blow a gasket!The real commodore guy is off playing in his nightrider car!
>>12067005You could buy the 8bitdo C64 keyboard and still 3D print the case. End result is still a better machine.
>>12067003hmm this level of seethe reeks of ESL brownoid envy to me. Its not anyones fault but your own that you are poor and dont have a woman.
>>12067017but why when the perfect solution already exists, its just wasting your own time which is of value if you have a job? Do you make your own retro video games in assembly?
>>12067023No, I enjoy the MisterPi which can emulate every classic computer worth buying:- Apple II- Macintosh Plus- Commodore 64- ZX Spectrum- TRS-80- Atari ST- Every Amiga machine known to man- MSX- Amstrad CPC- Acorn Archimedes- Windows 95 via a 486 machineYour gay ass C64 FPGA variant doesn't do half of this shit. Bow down.
>>12066979Don't buy it? ':D
>>12067073I won't because I am not a sucker like you and build computers like a real man.
>>12067092Based PC enthusiast whomps retard preaching for HDMI revisionist bullshit and separate 3D printing mongoloid.
A lot of people seem to believe that FPGA is a magic device that somehow becomes the c64 once programmed. In reality it's just an emulator written in VHDL. It's probably not even accurate.
>>12067106Not true at all. Look it up, it's cycle accurate.
>>12067106>In reality it's just an emulator written in VHDLEmulators are software, FPGAs are hardware so it's not an emulator, it's a clone. That says nothing about whether it's any more accurate -- you could build an NES clone by converting Nesticle's logic into a chip through VHDL or whatever, and it wouldn't be any better. It'd just be a shitty NES clone that worked the exact same as a shitty NES emulator, just potentially being wrong much faster.
>>12067126Okay, I spent some time trying to "look it up" and didn't find anything.In fact, the Ultimate 64 site specifically says that their 1541 drive emulator is cycle accurate, but says no such thing about the main board itself.
>>12061149>it's always amazing watching americans having a mental breakdown over a machine they created and the end result was america not being able to compete at any level with the rest of the world when it came to coding software for itAh yes, clearly, Americans losing their minds over not being able to code as well on an outdated machine over 40 years old. How will we ever compete.
>>12067106FPGAs also can't recreate any of the analog components. It will never be the same as a real SID chip.
>>12067854>It will never be the same as a real SID chip.True, but the problem with analog devices is your SID isn't the same as that guy's SID, nor the same as this other guy's SID.
>>12067914The SID is an ASIC
>>12067942it's a mixed-mode chip with analog components
>>12067854This computer comes with FPGA SID emulation but allows you to put in up to two real SIDs as well.
>>12061049Using fpga is retarded for emulation.
>>12068068This should be funny. Why?
>>12067838>seething>posts pic to demonstrate seethingamericans. lmao.
>>12067063Why are you posting in a C64 thread? Nobody here needs or want a stinky winky PoorPi. I have every other console hardware I want already, theres a floor of my house with the whole collection laid out, its really comfy. Ive already made a space for my awesome new Commodore 64 from the original Commodore company.
>>12060139Can't wait to load all of my favorite SEUCK games from Richard Bayliss and Alf Yngve on it.
>>12069098The thing about SEUCK is they named it right
>>12068773>from the original Commodore company.there is nothing original about it. it has some faggots that worked for them put into advisory roles and other similar meme titles. they also don't seem to be able to get the rights back for commodore's workbench and other rights to software that were sold off during the 90s and 00s.
>>12069230Do they have the rights to any hardware that isn't the C64?
>>12069241From what I've seen, they dont have rights to amiga . They probably have rights to other commodore branded items like the pet, but I dont think many people gives a shit about that stuff apart from the C64
>>12069253>I dont think many people gives a shit about that stuff apart from the C64Eastern Europeans that are 45 or older would be happy if nu-Commodore had the rights to the Plus and C16.
>>12069241the hardware is out of patent so anyone can clone it and the custom chips, whatever model of commodore. the software is a different story.
>>12060648>>12060139There's a commodore64 linux os you can put on your modern computer. I'm considering it because I am never upgrading to win11.
>>12069616It kinda sucks, it's just normal Linux with a C64 themed desktop and emulators pre-installed. It's lightly maintained.
>>12069616Bmc64 is pretty fun, its a tiny.linux that boots straight into the VICE emulator, it runs on one of those smaller raspberry pis, but then you arent getting any of the tactile response of a real machine. I remember exactly how the SHIFT and RUN/STOP keys felt, the precise click of the rocker power switch, the sqeal of the tape data through a smalk crt speaker and the clean snap of a microswitched joystick. Emulation gives me none of this.
>>12060139Why would I spend 300 on this when I could buy an American and British c64 at the same time and hook them up to my crt for less?
>>12071004Because it has RGB lighting bro!!
>>12067251cycle accurate means it is more accurate than real hardware fpga is just that good
>>12071151>pretending to be retarded
>>12068773Shut up faggot shill. Get an ad you overrated piece of shit. Stop wearing 70's serial killer aviators as well while you're at it, you look mad gay.
>>12070327>>12069616On top of the fact that it's bloated with shitty AI as well that is forced down your throat.Absolutely peak bullshit
>>12070941Look no further, faggothttps://www.retrovirtualmachine.org/
>>12071075>>12071004True. Even a Pi with a VGA hat more uses than this piece of shit.
Wow, you guys weren't kidding about poorfags
>>12071194
>>12069230Never let facts get in the way of (You)s bait.
>>12071196The RAM alone is worth it.
>>12071627Could just emulate at that point.Anyone who says otherwise is an absolute shill for that Gen X bitch
>>12071765>48MHz cycle-accurate CPU turbo mode>huge ram not possible with any other hardware>works perfectly with all hardwareIt's totally different from emulation and it's MUCH faster too. Much better than some garbage chink emulation HAN-held housefire.
>>12072135>cycle-accurateStill no proof of that>huge ram not possible with any other hardwareIt's possible with emulation. Also, what exactly are you going to use it for? If you want a system with capabilities that the original C64 never had, you may as well use your computer.>works perfectly with all hardwareUse case? Someone who has a bunch of c64 peripherals but no c64?
>a C64 is released that costs the same as the original at launch>which is a lovingly made super-clone>somehow this causes many people to seethe and shit themselvesI want somebody to explain themselves, what kind of fool could be angry at this?
