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Was this too high or deserved for 2005?
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https://microsites.ign.com/kfc/top99games/7.html
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Absolutely worth it. Ubi Montreal was at the top of their game then and they were able to do a lot of things that these days there are tools to just generate. Reflections, rain effects, animations, all of it was expertly crafted. The multiplayer was the best it ever was too, managing to be better than Pandora Tomorrow.

For 2005 it was incredible.
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>we need a stealth game for the dudebro trash players
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>>12068072
> #6: God of War
Platform: PS2
Developer: SCE Studios Santa Monica
Publisher: Sony Computer Entertainment
Year: 2005
>God of War ranks as one of the top PlayStation 2 games out and reaches instant classic status.
-- Nagasaki21
>People, this game is amazing. I read someone else talking about been there done that, that's a bunch of hoogin-flahgin! If anything, God of War takes all the platform games you love, put them into a big pot, cooks it for 4fidy and serves you up with a nice hot plate of kickass.
Lol, why did people jerk this shit game off so much?
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>>12068074
>based on user data up to April 11, 2005.
>top 10 has 2 zelda games (yikes), 1 tech demo (hl2, the goyslopest game of al ltime), 2 16bit games that no one actually played from start to finish, one low tier and dated fighting game of a dead console, a low tier western stealth game
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>>12068072
there might have been some controversy in 2004 but 2005 was when the 6th gen consoles started winding down, CT being 3 doesn't seem that off.
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>>12068072
I hold Chaos Theory in a special place in my heart, I adored the game and it made me optimistic for the future of games getting better.
Eventually I found out things would just decline.
That said, I have a feeling that Chaos Theory was propped up heavily as a number 1 title to help the Xbox look good. Back then I'd say it truly was the best game ever, but in retrospect I wonder how or why magazines would call a stealth game with a Tom Clancy plot the best game ever made.
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>>12068105
All of those games are good, it's far better of a list then archaic dogshit like Tetris, Civilization II, Super Mario and SF2 that contrarians pretended to like
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>>12068105
Cry tendie faggot
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>>12068072
A comparison between a dozen journalists
>IGN Top 10 - Critics (2005)
>Criteria - How good it is today without nostalgia or mods, Influence
1. Super Mario Bros (1985, NES)
2. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (1998, N64)
3. Tetris (1986, NES)
4. Sid Meier's Civilization II (1996, PC)
5. Super Mario 64 (1996, N64)
6. Sid Meier's Pirates (1987, PC)
7. StarCraft (1998, PC)
8. Street Fighter II (Vanilla) (1991, Arcade)
9. Star Wars: TIE Fighter (1995, PC)
10. Super Metroid (1994, SNES)
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>>12068137
>All completely obsolete and irrelevant besides OOT, Starcraft & SM64
Why are critics so retarded
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>>12068137
>All completely obsolete and irrelevant
All of these games besides pirates and tie fighter are still relevant when it comes to influence but if you seriously arguing that because the games arent actively being played today compared to fortnite then youre the retard.
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>>12068161
Nah he's right, even back then nobody gave a shit about most of those games. It's like putting Intolerance or Citizen Kane as a top 10 film
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>>12068161
Mind you, we have a link to what actual human beings, and not Jewish game journos thought back then and Tetris, Civ2, SF2, Pirates, SMB1 didn't even make the top 100
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>>12068072
It's not high enough praise. CT is literally the peak of not just the Splinter Cell franchise but the stealth franchise in general.
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>>12068072
Splinter Cell was always the poor man's Metal Gear. Hideo Kojima was a genius who knew how to tell a compelling narrative about Americans and their corruption. Ubisoft didn't get that memo and instead decided to go full "America, Fuck Yeah!" with these propaganda ridden games. Of course, Tom Clancy only exploded in popularity after 9/11, where every American became some zealous patriot, feeding into these games like pigs to slop.
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It's one of my favorite games ever. If anything it has been forgotten unjustly just because the series became shit afterwards.
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>>12068171
the most popular indie game right now is a super metroid ripoff, street fighter is still the most popular fighting game IP, civ is still getting sequels, how can you be surprised MARIO is on this list? How can you say these games are irrelevant?
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>>12068198
splinter cell is the low IQ choice. that's why I call it dudebro trash.
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>>12068212
>Civ
Nobody gives a shit about Civilization II, even back then
>Mario
Only ones people care about are World, 64 and Bros 3
>street fighter is still the most popular fighting game IP
That's Super Smash Bros, sales are also irrelevant to quality or cultural reverance but rather how stupidly easy & accessible they are.

Mario historically is always a launch title with bundled pack-ins. Sonic outsold every Mario but 1, and it's never listed
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>>12068198
MGSs are movies, not games.
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>>12068083
Because it's good. If your criteria is
>it isn't as hard as DMC
which is wrong, by the way, then sure. But I'm not franchise warring 20 years later unlike you
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>>12068290
MGS games has a big replayability factor
MGS 3 speedrun is longer than SC CT.
SC is a dead franchise because of its generic stealth nature and design, "monkey see, monkey do" mechanics, and no current fanbase.

If you take a moment to think about it, SC games are nothing but a interactive hollywood movie full of clichés.
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>can't ever have a decent SC thread because of the no-life kojima dickrider
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>>12068083
god of war was awesome
>shit game
absolutely fucking filtered.

>>12068137
>most straight garbage
>sid "the chad" meier is in it twice
seems about right. can't argue with that.
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>>12068198
>a designer
>genius
not in my lifetime, or the next.
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>>12068074
i want to fucking kill myself
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>>12068113
Civ 2 is sill better than the latest release
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>>12068113
I have Tetris on my phone. Legit better than most games out there.
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>>12068198
>>12068325
Are you the schizo ESL faggot that instantly shitposts in any Tom Clancy thread ranting about propaganda?

Also
> Of course, Tom Clancy only exploded in popularity after 9/11, where every American became some zealous patriot, feeding into these games like pigs to slop.
It's amazing how culturally unaware you are. By the time 9/11 happened, 4 of his games had already been made and released, and he had 4 movies that were all blockbuster hits.

You're a retarded coping faggot. Kill yourself.
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>>12068214
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>>12068083
It's a mid-2000s dudebro power fantasy DMC ripoff. It's specifically designed for people who wore Chuck Liddell T-shirts and had tribal tattoos. They noticed there were millions of those dudes so they made a version of DMC specifically for them. They also made 300 Spartans as a history movie just for them. It was a good idea because they really weren't into saving money. For a lot of people, God of War on PS2 and Modern Warfare on 360 were the first non-sports games they ever played.
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>>12069104
As opposed to DMC being specifically for femboy twink faggots?
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>>12068072
It was the best stealth game ever made up to that point, and some would argue still the best stealth game. So no, it's not too high.
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>>12069113
100%. Both companies knew their target audience, and most people like one or the other. If you like DMC, you probably think Kratos is this generic ass pro-wrestler looking dude you think is cringe. If you like GoW, you probably think Dante sucks dick for $5 out back of the local Wendy's. Then Castlevania and Sonic ripped it off too for weeabs and furries, but those two games are too new for this board, so I digress.
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>>12069120
nice pac-man stealth mechanics
best stealth game for sure, buddy
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>>12069410
Nice projection.
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>>12068310
It wasn't good. The gameplay was extremely repetitive and simplistic. The only reason it scored so high was that it was the "dude playing video games makes me MATURE!" era. It contributes literally nothing to video game development history other than further normalizing cancerous QTEs, and every sequel/prequel/subsequent release expanded on and improved on the original format.
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>>12069097
Yes, it is i
you is angry?
not be mad, okey?
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>>12068072
>>12068074
These lists were always absolute stupid bullshit. Always has been and they only got even worse with time. I say this as a massive Splinter Cell enjoyer. I recently beat all the games again last year. SC3 is definitely one of the best games stealth games ever. Its definitely deserving imo of being in the top 99 games list as this list is based around the best 99 games of all time. But I wouldn't have it anywhere near the top 10. I wouldn't even have it in a top 20 and maybe not even in the top 30.

What is even more laughable about this is how Splinter Cell 3 doesn't even rank in these top games lists at all anymore. Or at least I don't remember seeing it in the past handful of ones I have seen. Really makes you wonder what changed.
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>>12070091
>these lists are always absolute stupid bullshit

>What is even more laughable about this is how Splinter Cell 3 doesn't even rank in these top games lists at all anymore. Or at least I don't remember seeing it in the past handful of ones I have seen. Really makes you wonder what changed.
Cognitive dissonance is real.
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>>12068074
I'm legit surprised that Super Mario 64 didn't even make their top 30 back then.
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>>12068198
Metal Gear is actually fun to play too, Splinter Cell controls like ass



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