Why do critics obsessively shill this mediocre series so much? It's like they've never played any other platformer in their life
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>>12068159 game journalists hate Sonic and every list will have like 8-10 Mario games on it, and the NES Tetris port but never any other Platformer
>>12068156Most critics started with the NES & are clinically retarded so Mega Man, Ninja Gaiden, Sonic are too hard for them. So you always get the same rehashed Mario games since they are made for toddlers
>>12068169'All Mario games are easy' is a meme spouted by people who've never actually played a Mario game because all 4 of the NES/FC entires are harder than all of the platformers you've mentioned except the US version of NG3
>>12068156>Super Mario Bros 3 - Not a top 5 NES game, but good>Super Mario World - Not a top 5 SNES game, but good>Super Mario 64 - Genuinely good game but overrated>Super Mario Sunshine - Completely dogshit
>>12068156mario is the most polished and last surviving momentum based platformer, it's the best at the particular thing it does. all the imitators that sprung up mostly in the 8 bit era were forgotten.
>>12068190Bait
>>12068190Did Mario actually have imitators? I can only think of Kid Chameleon and... Giana Sisters?
It's fun
>>12068192NTA but no one actually disagrees with this outside of this shithole that for some reason decided to hate on every game made by Nintendo regardless of its quality. Like how in the fuck is this bait? Mario platformers really are polished and fun and the series is consistently good, can you actually name a better momentum based platformer series?
>>12068202Sonic because it has good games unlike Mario
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>>12068204If you think that Mario games aren't at least good then I refuse to believe you actually like the genre
>>12068204mario 1 > sonic 1sonic 2 > mario 2mario 3 > sonic 3mario world > CD64 > adventureadventure 2 > sunshine
>>12068238Sonic 1 > Mario 1 Sonic 2 > Mario 2Sonic 3 > Mario seriesSonic & Knuckles > Mario seriesMario World > Sonic CDMario 64 > Adventure Adventure 2 > SunshineSonic Advance > Yoshi's Island
>>12068238>>12068241I think that Mario is better except S3&K is on par with Mario 3 and better than World (I don't know what Mario game we should compare it to, probably the latter) and I prefer Adventure 1 to SM64 even though SM64 is just an objectively better platformer, Adventure 1 is a better 'experience'
>>12068156If you were actually good at video games you'd know why. Every SMB hater has some Zed X Speccy or Sega shit they say is better when they're too oblivious to know the difference.
>>12068251Sonic is objectively better in all cases but Adventure and CD. I think Adventure 2 > SM64 however
>Shakespeare's writing is too cliched nigga, super mario bros pretty much wrote the bible on how platformers should work at that period
>>12068263>Comparing infantile toddler games to ShakespeareMental illness
You convinced me. I stopped liking them.
>>12068181SM64 is overrated dogshit cause of muh historical significance but otherwise yeah.
Someone should make a avgn ripoff that parrots /v/ talking points and opinionsLike he would focus on reivewing popular games but under the lenses of "this beloved game actually sucks and it's overrated"
>>12068293>avgn ripoff that parrots /v/ talking points and opinionsYou'd have to shit on every game ever
>>12068293>>12068298Every video would end with his catch phrase of "Well, do you hate Nintendo yet?"
Another bait thread that will hit bump limit!
Slow day when you don't have a job, huh, OP?12068181>Super Mario Bros 3 - Not a top 5 NES game1/10, made a response
Mario and Sonic both bow to Diddy Kong
>>12068298>You'd have to shit on every game everThat's the point he just wants to make the audience mad by shitting on every game ever released while clearly not wanting to debate at all,like all of those bait threads (like this one).heck you might make it so he doesn't even play the games he is talking about for the extra immersion, he could sometimes make shit up too.
>>12068309Metroid > MM Zero > Donkey Kong > Castlevania > MM Legends > Mega Man > Sonic > Super Mario
>>12068317sounds about right
>>12068317Megaman X4 isn't that good, shiptoster-kun.
>>12068349X4 is noticeably absent from that list.
Sorry, I will still not hate classic Nintendo games.Maybe if you try yet again, it'll finally change my opinion.
>>12068429He said Megaman's Zero and that's the only good game he was playable in.
>>12068156It saved video games from the crash chud
>>12068564Kill yourself.
>>12068564based knower but x4 is decent with x at least
>mediocreyou know it's a sub-midwit speaking when they call mario "mediocre" or "generic"this kind of intelligence is incapable of seeing further than surface level detail, and has no idea what level design is
>>12068156Why does a fat autistic man with a micropenis post antitendo all the live long day?
>>12068793No previous jannies left, and I'm assuming the new jannies are still in the training queue, like in an RTS.
Land3: Wario Land is better than pretty much every 2d Mario entry
>>12068241>Sonic 1 > Mario 1>Mario 2 > Sonic 2>Sonic 3 > Bros 3>Sonic & Knuckles > Mario World>Sonic CD > World 2>Adventure > Mario 64>Adventure 2 > Sunshine>Land > Chaos>Triple Trouble > Land 2>Sunshine > Heroes
>>12068156They also think its "hard" for some reason when the only skill required to beat it is not getting bored halfway.
For the billionth time you grievance junkies: It does not hurt you for something that isn't 100% perfect in every possible way to be highly popular, and you are not acting as a noble, plucky freedom fighter when you go out of your way to make shallow complaints about that thing around people who enjoy it
>>12068238Sonic 2 > Mario 3 > Mario 64 > Sonic CD > Sonic 1 > Sonic 3 & Knux > Mario World > Sonic Adventure > Mario 2 > Mario 1 > Adventure 2 > Mario 2 JP > Bubsy 1 > SunshineYoshi's Island is not a Mario game the same way Jedi Knight 2 and Jedi Academy aren't really Dark Forces games.Mario isn't a bad game series, but it's fundamentally incapable of being as cohesively designed as the peak Sonic, Megaman, Castlevania, and Zelda games that came out in the 2D Mario era. Mario's key problem compared to more artfully designed games is its reuse of music and stage themes, Zelda also had this problem until at least SNES, but Sonic/Megaman/Castlevania never had filler levels with filler music.
>>12068156Lazy but effective bait. Super Mario Bros. games still haven't been surpassed.
>>12068793Do you think he has a real job or any job to be able to simultaneously shitpost and watch for the slightest praise of Nintendo on an Okinawan shirtweaving forum?
>>12069092True, everyone still plays and mods Mario games from every era
>>12069167lule what? That's every major retro game in a nutshell.>everyone still plays and mods metroid >everyone still plays and mods doom>everyone still plays and mods sims>everyone still plays and mods rollercoaster>everyone still plays and mods megaman>everyone still plays and mods legend of zelda>everyone still plays and mods castlevania>everyone still plays and mods skyrimIt's called autism not being unsurpassed.
>>12068156Mario 1, in the context of when it was released, was the greatest game on the NES. Mario 2 was mostly successful due to the first game, real mario 2 is decent and fake mario 2 I do not like. SMB3 is easily the best game in the franchise, and arguably on the NES, it is the gold standard to judge all future platformers against.SMW and on are fine but they do not reach the heights of 3. By the time Mario 64 came along the difficulty of the games had tanked substantially, quite frankly, it ruined them. Megaman was a better series overall, even if it suffered from similar issues.
There pretty much is not a better plaforming franchise than Mario, when you add up how long it's been around, how much it has done, and how many times it has reinvented itself.What else is there? Like Crash Bandicoot, which managed to have maybe two games that mattered, before it just turned to slop? Earthworm Jim?Kirby, I guess, but Kirby is for babies.
>>12069086>Castlevania>never had filler levels with filler musicLol.
>>12068156I've tried going back multiple times to play Super Mario World, and each and every time, I just burn out after around the first 40 to 50 minutes. Not because it's hard, but because it's fucking boring. Donkey Kong Country however, I could play for hours, start to finish. Progression is done far better, graphics and art design are much more interesting, and the music is phenomenal.
>>12068159FPBP
>>12068195>Did Mario actually have imitators? I can only think of Kid Chameleon and... Giana Sisters?There were a lot of platformers that aped the surface aspects but completely missed the rhythm that made smb fun.
>>12069086>Mario's key problem compared to more artfully designed games is its reuse of music and stage themesThese things only matter if youre autistic though.
Mediocre thread, mediocre shitpost and mediocre anon. Kill yourself.
>>12068181Obvious, fair opinions for anyone that isn't a ninfago troglodyte. Any nigger out here shaking their ass for SM3, SMW or SM64 as GOAT games are embarrassing.
>>12068564Every Inti Zero game is better than X4. I don't like Inti's Zero as much in terms of how he plays, but X4 as Zero is just mindless slash spam that doesn't have much depth beyond "SDC lol". Even the Zero 2 intro stage is more engaging than anything in X4's final stages.
It's literally the Nintendo marketing cash talking.
