Sometimes less is more. Early 3D would've benefited from more simplicity. Look at this goodness: 480i, 60fps, compelling abstract visuals. Meanwhile you chose to cream your pants for some blocky realism simulator running at 10 fps.
Timmy my sonyuo have 5th gen systemwill you pick buttery smooth 60fps racer with 30 opponents and suggestive graphics that let the brain fill up the gapsor unplayable first person shooter running at 10fps?
>>12069373>>12069376>>12069381I didn't understand how to play this game at all, but it definitely looked cool
>>12069373What blocky realism simulator running at 10 fps? I never mentioned any blocky realism simulator running at 10 fps.
>>12069373iS came out in 99 so I'm not sure what 3D games you're comparing it to, Metal Gear Solid?
>>12069394It's pretty easy. I recommend sticking to the monkey weapon.
After a while simplicity loses its charm and people require complexity. It's not really a bad thing, it's just the "wave of novelty"and it's a completely natural human reaction to anything. >Grug throw rock. Grug like rock but rock too simple. Grug invent spear. Spear also good. In old age Grug miss good old times of skull smashing with rock.>"Well yes the impressionist movement is quite beautiful but there's a sort of naive charm in realism don't you think?">"Oh I love modern games like God of War but this one retro-inspired pixel art first person dungeon crawler just has a je ne sais quoi about it, you know?"It ebbs and flows. New thing evolves quickly until people miss the old days. If the Playstation only had games like tempest and jumping flash all the way through to 1996 it would have died like the dreamcast did.
>>12069373>480i, 60fps, compelling abstract visuals. Meanwhile you chose to cream your pants for some blocky realism simulator running at 10 fps.Don't fucking care, I can like both things as I don't have a prohibitive sensitivity to low framerates.
>>12069386don't badmouth saturn quake, it has more polygons than the sun!
>>12069386let's shoot them nazi heads dad
>>12069373You're really not appreciating just how much talent and effort is required to make even fairly simple looking graphics run fast at a good framerate on retro hardwareMost games ran like ass regardless of their graphical quality, poor performance was by no means limited to just nice looking games.
People would have laughed in your face for trying to release that in 1997.Games were *supposed* to be getting more realistic and sophisticated. You wouldn't get it if if you grew up with GTAIV. At that point, the stuff people were excited about in the 90's, only seems like a hilarious misstep.You don't get how cool it was just to walk around in a tangible 3D space and see characters look like humans, kind of.
I'd rather play the unplayable 10fps game desu
>>12069872Why does he have a gun attached to his knuckles?
>>12069386Was it impossible to have made a 5th gen FPS running at 60 frames? How come even sprite based horizontal axis only stuff like Doom and Hexen ran slowly?
>>12069970Cuz western devs aren't as good as westies hype them to be
>>12069975Have the Japs achieved this tho?
>>12069979they don't care about eff pie esses but given the vast majority of 5th gen console games running at 60fps are Japan-based, they probably could have done it. First person view is nothing special.
>>12069985That's a good point. Just blows my mind Japan had full 3D games at 60 frames while Westoids couldn't even get 2.5D Doom to run at that on the PSX.
>>12069985Wasn't a problem for PlayStation.
>>12069998Forsaken PS1 has some drastic framedrops though.
>>12070004When there's over a half dozen enemies shooting at you the game drops frames. Sounds reasonable unlike when a chair happens to come into view from a doorway in goldeneye causing the framerate to drop to the single digits unless you preemptively stare at the ground.
>>12069879'Cause he is Bond, James Bond
>>12069995>Westoids couldn't even get 2.5D Doom to run at that on the PSXBecause id absolutely refused any port that would have any sort of texture warping, so they had to use a more demanding technique
I like both, your "graphic warring" is pathetic and doesn't belong to retro players.
>>12070283>graphic warringmeds
>>12069394The weapons have a pretty big gap in usefulness from my experience. You can freely edit your weapon wheel from the main menu and unequip the stuff you don't like. Monkey, Bird and Tiger were my 3 main ones. There's also the weird tile matching part, I don't know the best way to do those but I just used Sheep to push one of the tiles back and pass through.
>>12069879You don't?
>>12070381Pay more attention to OPs.
>>12070381Not schizo, just ordinary ESL
>>12069831>muh ebil nazisgood goy
>>12071121Right wingers need to move on from the godless pagan German skull measurers.
>>12071142>godless paganoh my science perhaps they're right
I have "showcasing a niche hidden gem solely to facilitate the same tired old good new bad argument" fatigueTalk about iS without linking it back to how much you hate modernity, or fuck off.
>>12071821My Afro-American friend, I'm comparing IS to its contemporaries. When I'm talking about "blocky realism simulator running at 10fps" I mean stuff like GoldenEye or Perfect Dark. Nowhere is modernity mentioned. My point is that the hardware wasn't ready to display more realist worlds yet, unlike 6th gen onwards (more MODERN systems, which I didn't hate on). For the 5th gen, non-realist graphics were a smarter choice.
>>12071826You should know with "realism simulator" you're being pretty silly.
>>12071348>I FUCKING love science
>>12071826Plenty of PS1 games ran at 10fps too.
>>12071835That's the 64 my FriendThe standard was 30FPS for 3D games + a tons of 2D games at 60 FPS
>>12071839Okay, but lots of PS1 games still ran at 10fps. Same with the Saturn
>>12071830You should know that when I talk about "early 3D" I mean a very specific era of gaming. Don't come here anymore to vomit your diarrhea.>>12071835I just gave two examples that came from the top of my mind, no need to be offended tendofriend.
>>12071843Both of the examples you posted can be played in 60fps now
>>12071826>"blocky realism simulator running at 10fps" I mean stuff like GoldenEye or Perfect Dark. Nowhere is modernity mentioned. My point is that the hardware wasn't ready to display more realist worlds yetThat's your opinion in hindsight. People wanted the realism, and they wanted it then and there, and were willing to take the hit when it came to framerates. Also this bias that 60fps is an absolute minimum you should settle for, is pretty modern. If you were playing Doom on your family PC as a kid, it may literally have being running at single digit speeds. People were just happy that the game was there.What do you not get about this?>but the PS2 did it better!Yeah, that was half a decade later, and we had to go through the slightly awkward early phase to get there.
>>12069373>Meanwhile you chose to cream your pants for some blocky realism simulator running at 10 fps.That "blocky realism" is the stuff that pushed the technology, art direction, and arguably the entire industry forward. If everything stagnated on simple geometric shapes because of some "muh optimized aesthetic for the hardware limitations" agenda, nothing would have ever improved—innovation comes first; optimization later.These "compelling abstract visuals" of yours are basically the kind of shit people were using to make screensavers and winamp visualizers 25 years ago—the graphical equivalent of jingling keys in front of a retard. You shouldn't be surprised that nobody was frothing at the mouth for them to dominate the industry.But you'd know all this if you weren't just a retarded zoomer shitposting in bad faith ;^D
samefag harder
>>12071121>muh epik naziscongrats on your tax money going to israel lol
>>12071847NTA, but not on native hardware.
