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How much roleplay potential and branching paths are there in this RPG?
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>>12070010
Play it and find out.
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>>12070010
loved how much more demonic diablo looked in the first game compared to red lizard in diablo 2. Heck the whole game felt darker and more mature than diablo 2, regardless of how much people jerk off over it.
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>>12070010
>How much roleplay potential and branching paths are there in this RPG?
Very little. Character development is also sort of stilted with attribute caps. Build customization is slightly better in the sequel.
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Made me wonder.
How come a console port of Diablo 2 didn't happen in 2000-2002?
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>>12070010
Very little.
That's a D2 thing.

Or Fallout or Divine Divinity or any real RPG
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>>12070084
Because they were busy making the biggest MMO ever made
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>>12070010
Pretty much none to be honest, the stats maxing out relative to your class made sure of that. You couldn't run say a magic warrior, or a melee sorc. Ok, you cant really run a magic barb in D2 but the melee enchant sorc is kinda viable. But there's none of that in D1, if you play the magic class, you're using only spells, warrior? Only melee and rogue - ranged
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>>12070087
Could delegate it to someone else.
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>>12070104
Then maybe the reason is the game in OP sold like shit
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40 year old gamer here. Growing up I loved FF7-9, VTMB and Morrowind in terms of RPGs. Never played Diablo. Is it worth it? I like combat in RPGs but also towns, little areas to breakup the onslaught of enemies.
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>>12070396
The town in Diablo is pure comfybleak kino.
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>>12070104
People 20 years ago had more self respect than just letting some AI studio shit all over their work.
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>>12070396
I'm only a bit younger and would recommend. It basically defined the genre, so it's not a typical "western RPG", but it's not Gauntlet levels of simple either. It is a classic dungeon crawler in that you're going from the top to the bottom, but you'll be popping into town (at the top) throughout for various things. And it is comfy af as >>12070420 stated.
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>>12070396
it has zero to do with any of them
there's a trace amount of magic the gathering rules autism but that's the only thing in Diablo that has any connection to an RPG hobby shop
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How's Diablo on the PS1? Worth playing or strictly inferior to the PC version? I played Diablo III on console and liked it.
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>>12070010
Diablo isn't real
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>>12070396
No.
If you reallly want the "Diablo experience" play Larian's Divine Divinity
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>>12070574
it's not terrible for what it is, but there's no reason to play it over the PC version
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>>12070396
Diablo one feels like a flash game. You can beat it fast and you just need to keep ramping up your power until the end. Sometimes you have a fuck load of super tough ranged enemies to deal with and you just need to kite those bitches
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>>12070574
It's my favorite version if I'm just going to play a warrior. You lose out on some enemy animations frames, save times are terrible if you aren't emulating, but otherwise there's things like
>smoother movement
>colored lightning
>best Tristram atmosphere
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>>12070574
Diablo III is drastically better on console, D1 is cool on PS1 but pretty clunky.
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>>12070704
Divinity is a great suggestion. I've heard Diablo described as 'wide as an ocean, but puddle deep'. Divinity fixed that by fleshing it out into full RPG with more less same game mechanics
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>>12070917
DD is basically Diablo, but with an interactive world full of NPCs, towns, and quests, while keeping the same dungeon structure, level up and loot system as Diablo.

Pro tip: Play at 800x600 resolution in software mode, this fixes about 80% of the minor bugs and glitches. And remember to save often using multiple save slots.

Game is comfy as fuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELTGk_EZtJU
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>>12070949
I may have to reinstall over the weekend now. Its kind of tedious at first when you're stuck in first village but when game opens up its absolutely amazing
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>>12071001
100% this first village is a nod from the devs to Tristram.
Just like in Diablo, you immediately receive a quest to venture into a dungeon beneath the village to investigate an ancient evil.
At first, you may think the game would be limited to that dungeon, but, unlike Diablo, once you complete this quest, you can leave the village and explore the world.
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>>12070425
As if Helllfire and D1 on PS never happened.
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>>12070574
The best part is that you can play it in couch coop like you could on diablo 3 on console.
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>>12071024
You probably already know, but if you like DD try sacred.
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>>12071420
Actually never heard of it
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>>12070704
>>12070917
>>12070949
DD looks a lot like an evolved Ultima 8 with Diabloesque elements.
>>12070396 should play Diablo 1 and 2.
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>>12070057
>loved how much more demonic diablo looked in the first game compared to red lizard in diablo 2.
You're so easily impressed
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>>12070704
>play Larian's Divine Divinity
>Larian
Fuck off.
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>>12071629
you're so easily pleased
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>>12071420
>sacred
I got 1 and 2 on Steam but haven't played them yet, really should get to it
https://youtu.be/JyfE55c_ZjI?si=YxFh3ZWhvpgIyBTv
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>>12071090
>t. never played Hellfire
It's fucking awesome and clearly the main devs thought so too since they lifted many elements from it for D2.
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>>12070010
>>12070396
If you don't play them with friends Diablo games are absolutely miserable
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>>12071629
It's not even """much more""" demonic unless you have a huge aversion to scalies, and the original's "much less" demonic if you have an aversion to man ass.
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>>12071930
>he took the vax
Lmao
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>>12070574
aside from the typical ps1 slowdowns, its great and looks great. and theres co-op
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>/pol/ outta nowhere
>gayshit
must be refu/v/ees
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>>12070010
played for the first time recently, hellfire dlc and devilutionX mod, the game is a bit random in the quest they give you you don't get all of them in 1 cycle, the map and equipment too of course, not much for roleplay though beside your stats, you don't have much decision to make and if you do, they are ignored once the quest is over, I like it but fuck the fireball bats
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>>12072313
>fag mad that he can't be gay
finally some justice in this world
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>>12071909
it's really fucking not, the bug monsters were so stupid and completely misplaced. The crypt was ok though
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Diablo 2 is probably the game I have put the most collective hours into throughout my life and I didn’t care for D1 all that much. I can’t deny that the atmosphere and sound design are top notch but the game is so fucking slow that playing it feels like an actual chore.

Then again, for me the real fun of D2 was the gambling/online aspect.
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>>12070846
Rogue is also quite fun in the PSX version.

Sorcerer gets old fast in Hell difficulty because the golem is useless and you don't get to keep your CC if you even ever find one. So I ended up just hacking away with a KSoH like a shitty version of the Warrior anyway.
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>>12070010
Just about none, Diablo isn't about roleplaying in any meaningful sense, rather it's a rogue-ish dungeon crawler, and a really good one.

>>12070057
Agree.

>>12071909
I kinda like Hellfire, but it has a lot of problems, and almost everything that it implements which you see in Diablo 2 was stuff which was already worked on during the first game's development, all of the best stuff in Hellfire was Blizzard's leftovers.
Some of the devs of Diablo were also pissed as fuck about how Hellfire turned out.
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>>12071921
It's fine, the demons in Doom had their sculpted asses out.

>>12070396
Diablo 1 is basically 100% crawling one big rogue dungeon. There's no real roleplaying and all the quests are very straightforward, but it absolutely OOZES atmosphere, the presentation and feel of the game is really top notch.

It's a simple game overall, but it has its little depths and ideas, you have to apply some thinking to combat and tactics. It's also not a very long game either, you should be able to beat it on normal in two or three afternoons or so, depending on how much time you spend.

>>12070574
It was a solid port for its time, and it adds a bit of its own visual flair to make up for some of the sacrifices it has to make, but it's not particularly worth going out of your way to play these days, it cuts a lot of the speech if I recall right, and it has quite a lot of slowdown.

DevilutionX is a reversed engineered port of Diablo, not just for PC, but a whole fucking host of different systems, including Amiga, Android, and I think also XBox360 and PS3 (presumably you would need to jailbreak those). It doesn't have the splitscreen multiplayer of the PSX version, but it has gamepad support and multiplayer support.
It even lets you have full quests in multiplayer, and play an unfucked version of Hellfire.
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https://youtu.be/AnMR6SOBa9k
Booting up into Tristram for the first time as a kid was such a powerful experience. I think it's the first time i felt unsafe even in town, just walking around and talking to people felt creepy and ominous.
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mod's a fag
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>>12073874
why?
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>>12073405
>It's fine, the demons in Doom had their sculpted asses out.
Both D1 and D2 Diablo designs are fine.
DevilutionX does have gamepad support but it's still the large traditional tiles as opposed to PSX's smaller movement grid.
>still has my old webm
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>>12073984
I actually like quite a lot of things about Diablo 2's design, even the design I think isn't as good as the first game. I'm just really fond of the aesthetic and feel of the first game, Diablo 2 departed from a lot of it.
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If what you're pathetically trying to imply is that it's not really an RPG, then say so, you fuKKKwad. In any case, it's not a good game. Esp. when compared to the absolute, unique MASTERPIECE it's alleged to be "inspired by" (it isn't; they just say that for cred).
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Diablo is a good game.
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>>12075039
>I'm just really fond of the aesthetic and FEEL of the first game, Diablo 2 departed from a lot of it.
Always found them perfectly complimentary with D2 "expanding" on how a lot of D1 felt, not "departing".
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>>12075069
i think it's one of those inevitable design tradeoffs. in order to expand the scope of the game, they had to add running. but with that came the loss of the spooky atmosphere. diablo 2 is a better game in all regards than 1 but never once did i ever feel that dread that i felt playing 1 in 2
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>>12075130
oh and the music in D1 is better despite fewer tracks
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>>12075130
I never felt that in Diablo due to town portals, and running can carry its own disadvantages: It ruins your defense to where nearly everything can hit you and potentially stunlock you. As a melee-focused player, nothing in D1 spooks me out as much as lightning enchanted mobs.
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>>12075130
>never once did i ever feel that dread that i felt playing 1 in 2
if you had played hardcore in D2 you would've felt more dread than D1
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>>12070704
Divinity is absolutely horrible garbage, I believe whoever recommends this shit never actually played it. Bugs up your ass, horrible balance that favorites archers and mages, horrible skills ("feign death" is one of the most useless skills of all time in all of videogames), schizophrenic storyline and quests, bugged quests that can softlock you if you do them in incorrect order without even knowing it (there's an entire guide on steam about that), etc etc.
On positive side: graphics are great and music too. But Diablo is much, much better. You're dumbass contrarian who didn't played DD and you know it.
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>>12071917
You think that's true for 1? I had more fun playing 2 with friends but I still went back to play 1 solo, the atmosphere and gameplay feels more fitting for solo play.
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>>12075169
>As a melee-focused player, nothing in D1 spooks me out as much as lightning enchanted mobs
Lightning enchanted mobs in D2 are walking rape, but there's plenty of dangers for the Warrior in D1, the mages and bitches in Hell get pretty gnarly, particularly on Nightmare and Hell difficulty. Also, FUCK Black Deaths.

>>12075224
I think that they both work both solo and with friends.
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>>12070104
Because Blizzard didn't make D2, Blizzard North another company did.
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>>12075194
That's quite a lot of words, my friend. Just say you got filtered, we'll understand.
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>>12071637
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