Somehow.. Ash returned
A Vandel Hearts thread?
THE Ash Ketchum from Pallet town!?!
>>12079073It's more likely than you think!
>>12079090It's been so long, the way Grog would lick his sword before hitting people was so cool.
>>12079071I thought this art was weird when I played it back in the day yet when I got VH2 and it looked so dry and basic in comparison I actively hated it.
I read Ash and Sarah have a romantic relationship. Is it true?Im on the train chapter and they have had 0 intimacy. Also love VH2 the most. Almost done with my second playthrough and plan a third later with the same turn removal mod.
Is vandal hearts worth playing
>>12079289>with the same turn removal mod.huh, didn't know about that, might give it a try. although after looking it up I can find two mods that seemingly do the same thing?
>>12079368The plot is a slow burn, full of subtlety and nuance...makes FFT look like an episode of benny hill.
>>12079289>I read Ash and Sarah have a romantic relationship.No. Sara is pretty heavily with Amon. Ash is with Eleni.
>>12079532https://retrogametalk.com/repository/psx-iso/vandal-hearts-2-take-turns-hack-usa/I only see one here. Just tested it for 1 chapter and it works.>>12079368I think its a good game with an interesting art direction. The gameplay is a little simplistic but spices it up with varied objectives and map design.>>12079652Oh I see. I thought I read Sarah and then she, Ash and Grog get teleported to spoiler so didn't question it.Isnt Eleni underage?
>>12079745>retrogametalkI see, I was looking at this https://www.romhacking.net/games/4341/judging by the name I assume it's the newer one, then.
>>12079071This comment and picture had me thinking for a second that this is supposed to be the cabin from evil dead with the necronomicon on the table.Now I want to play an evil dead rpg.
>>12079745>Isnt Eleni underage?No. Her sprite makes her look younger but she's like 18 19 or something. Plus there's that three year time gap thing. Also she's a video game sprite. >>12079779Groovy.
>No one mentions Vandal Hearts 2.It's story makes Tactics Ogre and Final Fantasy Tactics look like an idealistic fairy tale.
>>12079815Ummmm>>12079289
>>12079817What's your opinion about Vandal Hearts 2's story and characters?
>>12079815Maybe they shouldn't have dragonquartered the gameplay
I completed Vandal Heart 1 earlier this year. It was a nice little game, with hillariously no balance (I could level up my magic users by constantly buffing each other, by the end of the game they would virtually wipe out maps by themselves).Is 2 as good? Worth playing? Is there still a branching class system?
>>120799392 is worth playing.Though dont expect it to look or play like the first game.In a lot of ways VH2 feels more like an attempt to hang out with TO and FFT. Though I like the story more.No. Game doesn't have classes. The "class" of the character is dependant on their equipment. So if an ally equips heavy armor they are a knight or if they equip a robe then they are a mage.I honestly find it better than the class system of 1 since at least weapons all have skills/magic.
>>12080072Bummer.I'm extremely concerned by >>12079937 saying the gameplay has been "dragonquartered".
>>12080078Guess he meant that it changed?Well VH2 uses a gameplay system where if you do an action, then the enemy will also act in the same turn.So if you choose to attack an enemy, that enemy will move in the same turn and you will probably miss the attack.Some find it hard to strategize around it and others have read the AI to the point they can anticipate the enemy's every move.If you dont like that you can always play with >>12079745 so it plays like fire emblem with player/enemy phase.
>you need to loginmiss me with that gay shit
>>12080110It's this one https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/5400/
So how DID Ash return?
>>12080157Hmm looks like they did some dithering shite at vgmuseum, also I copied wrong
>>12079289>>12079817>>12080086The art style looks so dark and serious.I prefer the first game's goofyness.
>>12079071Probably the same way they came back with Zohar last timeOnly this time it was just AshProbably makes more sense if Vandalier Ash is canon, then he just used Jesus power to come back
>>12079815>Doesn't read the threadSeveral have mentioned Vandal Hearts 2. It's Flame of Judgement that doesn't get much talk. I mean it's not retro but it came and went like the wind.
>>12080256AFAIK there's a cutscene that overrides the Vandalier.. might be just laziness, though.
So did anyone ever unlock this in VH2?
>>12081229Its hacking only.There is a save on GFs that unlocks it but havent managed to make it work.Maybe time to get a gameshark.
>>12081229>>12081728https://www.resetera.com/threads/a-decades-old-mystery-about-a-hidden-unlockable-gradius-sword-in-vandal-hearts-ii-for-playstation-has-finally-been-figured-out.1309491/
>>12081764>>12081728That lets you download a save from Dengeki magazine with it unlocked which unlocks it for your memory card.But it doesn't explain how to get it directly. This screenshot says to read the magazine for how to unlock it.Someone claimed you could get it in Polata Village with a 100.0% VH2 and end game VH1 save file on your card in the JP version, after you talk to Nicola before going to see Kossimo.It doesn't work. I tried it on a JP copy with those JP files on my memory card. So there's something else to it. Could be other steps have to be taken.
>>12082403The save is the official way, same as with unlocking the dengeki store in BoF4. Can't find scans of issue 116, so unless someone forks over the 70bux someone is asking for on ebay we won't know the details.
>>12082541Why does the screenshot from the demo from Dengeki posted above say to "See magazine for the full way to unlock the Gradius sword"? Once you have a save with the Gradius unlocked, it unlocks for ALL saves going forward. I have confirmed this as well as the "alternate" method posted on this blog (it does NOT work): https://moromorom.blogspot.com/2020/08/blog-post.html
Anyone mad enough to play the Saturn version on Hard and go through the extra maps?
>>12082715Didn't this random guy do exactly thathttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_tZQt3YaoYI can probably try it the next time I replay Vandal Hearts (only replayed PS1 version several times during last ~30 years, never tried Sega Saturn version)
>>12082743If you've played the PSX version so much you should definitely play the Saturn version too, even on normal, if only for the new gear and spells.
>>12082749I miss the english narration - "Ash and his companions..."https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV-T7fXj5nw
The Saturn disc has the movies in AVI format, but most seem to have codec problems and glitch at a few spots, at least those on the version I got from myrient. Not even VLC can play them right :(
>YOU SO BEST
>>12082768>VLC can'tthat is tragic
>>12079838Characters its very dependant. The playable cast is very one dimensional barring Joshua and Pratau. Joshua is great with some player choice to shape his destiny and Pratau I liked a lot the side cast. Nicola was very interesting and I liked how much of an influence he was on Joshua and eventually Joshua on him. Adele going from her desire to cast aside her noble status as what she saw as a burden to embracing it as she realizes is a position that allows her to possibly positively influence natra.The villains are also interesting for the most part. Though the game only gives them nuance at the end so you mostly see them as generic villains but its okay since its better than them being one dimensional. What I liked about the story is that the actual main bad, Godard, is in the background influencing stuff so whenever something fantastical happens in the mostly political story, it doesnt feel out of nowhere like TO and FFT feels.There is a bunch of interesting political stuff, mostly how the war of succession in Natra is being exploited by the foreign powers and while you dont directly oppose them they still influence the state of the war.I really liked the kid segment. Kids are usually annoying but this kid segment was really interesting to show the character of Joshua and Adele. Though I feel like Clive and to a lesser extent Yuri were wasted. Mostly Clive since he doesnt shows up much and his death feels rushed.Anyways I did really love it. Its been so long since a game hooked me so much. Guess because I didnt grow up with 1, I saw it as its own thing.>>12080172I mean the game starts with a massacre and HEAVILY implied sexual assault. Then does it again later. VH2 is very dark and serious and it has no qualms using imagery to drive the point across.
>>12083803>I mean the game starts with a massacre and HEAVILY implied sexual assault.Rape. It was full on rape. Call it what it is.
>>12083479When VLC has merely problems playing a file other players completely implode
