DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread: >>12082401Doom/Quake/Duke/Heretic/Hexen/Unreal/Sam/Half-Life/etcGameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source PortsAll other 90s FPS welcome~ Let's post like gentlemen ~FAQ/GENERAL GUIDEhttps://rentry.org/vrbinSO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Deus Ex)https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXzSame thing, in video format:https://youtu.be/ietb4JwaaXAhttps://youtu.be/DhOjleMqwdQhttps://youtu.be/CGj4gXyCzg0== GAMES/RESOURCES ==DOOM Quickstart (IWADs etc): https://mediafire.com/file/wuniyrhsjjgq4y8QUAKE Trilogy FAQ: https://pastebin.com/Ucb11XhUPortaDOOM:https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releasesHALF-LIFE (GoldSrc) Anthology:https://mega.nz/file/GRUCGbAY#RhOiqxnf7UPOiXcJNbRh-prKIEVRhjJaEpAkt34lyZg4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games:https://mega.nz/#F!3t8nzSIS!947kyMN6Z80f8HS7q2XlqAAssorted /vr/ shooters, mods, etc:https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Qhttps://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUAMIDI COLLECTIONShttps://files.catbox.moe/2hul76.ziphttps://mega.nz/file/dWQ3SThI#qYcpa4eGQj6ElyRZgjGqszR59dh4Fq9D3qXYee54kZQhttps://archive.org/details/archiveteam-geocities-midi-collection-2009https://archive.org/details/midiru-archive-2022-02-25.7z== INFO/LINKS ==OFFICIAL DOOM WIKIhttps://doomwiki.org/WHERE TO FIND WADSVanilla/Boom: https://doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/ZDoom: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19/idgames: https://doomworld.com/idgames/MODDING RESOURCEShttps://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37https://realm667.com/== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==THREAD ARCHIVEShttps://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/"doom thread"/type/op/OUR WADS/MODShttps://rentry.org/vrdepotMAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLYhttps://pastebin.com/8mDnrsrBIMAGE/WAD DATABASEhttps://vrdoom.booru.org/https://clovr.xyz/wadsup/MULTIPLAYER SERVERSUS West: https://clovr.xyz/CA/US Midwest: https://macgu.fun/
=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===Duke It Out in /vr/Game : DN3D | Deadline : Jan 1st 2026Tile/Con pack: https://files.catbox.moe/thm4q7.zipRules: https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/11835634HOT POTATO, aka Deep /vr/ied PotatoGame : Doom 2, MBF21 | Deadline : HOTPOTATO99.WADRules: https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/12030515Latest build: HOTPOTATO85.WADhttps://files.catbox.moe/gn8e9v.zip=== CURRENT RELEASES ===/Vertex Relocation/IWAD : Doom 2 | Format : BoomRC5: https://files.catbox.moe/a4tbzi.zip=== NEWS ===[10-8] Nightdive delisting original System Shock 2.https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/238210/view/503964319779651936[10-8] New EduardoAndFriends wadhttps://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/155461[10-5] GMDX_AE mod updated to v1.1https://moddb.com/mods/give-me-deus-ex-augmented-edition[10-4] DOOM & DOOM 2 re-releases by Nerve will be delisted from mobile platforms due to recent Unity security vulnerability.https://msrc.microsoft.com/update-guide/advisory/ADV256762[10-3] RAMP 2025 is available to downloadhttps://ramp2025.doomproject.com/[10-2] Sunder 2510 released with MAP21 "The Leviathan's Arteries"https://www.doomworld.com/forum/post/2971041[10-1] SCAMP2025, a mapset for Chasm: The Rifthttps://moddb.com/games/chasm-the-rift/addons/scamp2025[9-30] Doom 3: Phobos is now on Steamhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/3978420[9-29] Blood Alpha Restoration Patch update, currently WIPhttps://moddb.com/mods/blood-alpha-restoration-patch[9-28] Nightdive re-releasing Blood. Again.https://youtu.be/sFjJU5lf2K0[9-24] Deus Ex Remastered announced, developed by Asspyrhttps://youtu.be/f1RdKezTYNk[9-23] Crispy Doom v7.1 updatehttps://fabiangreffrath.github.io/crispy-homepage[9-17] AMC Squad: Episode 5 has been released!https://moddb.com/games/the-amc-tc/news=== PREVIOUS ===https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST (ideally with the [MM-DD] date bracket)
surprised we're even bothering right now what with the spammer
>>12089234Spam is temporary, but Doom is forever
=== KUUMAPERUNA BROJEKK :DDD===>Reply to this post if you want to "lock" the wad.>Do any map modifications, add any lumps, etc.>Post the new wad with incremented version numberThe 85 in the OP is old, posting the actual latest build:HOTPOTATO89.WAD: https://files.catbox.moe/y9hbj8.zip
>>12089221>>> CLASSIC DOOM CHALLENGE <<<Record a UV-max run of What Lies Beneath - Map 01 "Mansion Halls of Madness" by Muumi. The complevel is MBF21.Reply to this post with your demo & time.Download and current record here:https://dsdarchive.com/wads/whatliesExample demo in 7:23https://files.catbox.moe/05xksi.lmpPrevious thread winner: DBP62 - map 08 UV-Max in 8:51 >>12082982 (me)This wad has a variety of level themes, this one's the most overtly spooky, plus lots of nice detailing. Also, props to Violentbeetle for leading/contributing to this wad if he happens to see this since I think he lurks here sometimes.
>>12089261he thinks might is right without considering circle strafing
>>12089261I still miss Slax, that silly son of a bitch.
Mjolnir's version of Heretic is somehow the most fun I have ever had playing Heretic. The powerup changes are just nice and drastically reduced enemy count makes it no longer an absolute slog.And it's just casually hidden in a secret. Impressive mod and a shame Mjolnir will never be finished.
>>12087764This comparison makes it funnier. I'm sure Nightdive lies about the source code thing intentionally. What a joke.>>12088559No. Blood-RE is all we're going to have.>>12088603Kaiser is too insecure to let that happen.
how do i get my speedrun times on the dsda site? i put it in the non-wr thread on troonworld, but it hasnt been uploaded to the leaderboard. does it have to a wr for the dsda moderators/admins/editors to notice it.
Fucking spamtroon, now it's too late for me to try to do the DBP level run again... No, it's still not too late actually.
>>12089518>source code has been supposedly "lost" for over 20 years>suddenly, greedy ass company has it uh huh...yeah, i toooootalllly believe that.
It wasn't long ago that jokes about Nightdive remastering their remasters were funny
>>12089592>>source code has been supposedly "lost" for over 20 yearsThe source code of Blood was never lost. People just couldn't get Monolith/Warner to release it. A couple of veteran Monolith developers even stated to have had it, but couldn't release the source for legal reasons.https://blood-wiki.org/index.php?title=Blood_Source_Campaign
>>12089592Wasn't Blood's source code actually leaked a little while back? Like not the old alpha leak from the 90s, but the finished retail version.As said, it was never lost, it was just locked up somewhere. Compare to the source code for Strife, that actually IS lost.
>>12089656>Wasn't Blood's source code actually leaked a little while back? Like not the old alpha leak from the 90s, but the finished retail version.If you talk about the version that was leaked by "definitely not nu-Apogee people", then it was still an Alpha version.
previous thread was at bump limit anyways :0
>>120892708:21 https://files.catbox.moe/w5665k.lmpFirst attempt, forgot where some monsters are
>>12089893>>120892707:14 https://files.catbox.moe/s7radz.lmpSecond attempt, now I suck at platforming
>>12089518>Kaiser is too insecure to let that happen.Is he? He still got early version of PowerslaveEX and extremely early probably unusable version of TurokEX open sourced on his Github, alongside StrifeVE (if only because it was based on Chocolate Doom). If he didn't work at Nightdive at the time, he'd probably open source BloodEX too.I just don't think that there is any interest in that code.>>12089617Now I remember shit like Jace Hall wanting to re-release Blood for its multiplayer after seeing ZDaemon and getting nostalgic for Bloodbath or hyper3DGE developer adding copious amounts of Quake source code in his port to make use of permission Monolith gave to Transfusion team to use Blood assets to make his commerical game that got shut down by WB and never materialized.There was a lot of funny shit like this happening before BloodGDX and NBlood suddenly materialized one after another and both before FS.
>>12089582Usually takes like 3 days
Posting this one more time because of the fuckhead who wiped his ass on the catalogue.Since some people complained about a lack of variety in music for playing Arcane Dimensions, I quickly grabbed and compiled these. They're just music tracks in .ogg format, but you could put them into the game folders and then also change music tracks with the console.None of them loop seamlessly because Quake's soundtrack doesn't do that either and I couldn't be fucked even if it did. I generally went for slow and medium tracks with some atmosphere to them, how well they actually fit is probably very subjective.A bunch of tracks from Trent Reznor's public domain Ghosts albums:https://files.catbox.moe/62ea9t.zipThis one isn't actually assembled by me, someone else on /vr/ compiled it years ago and I just use it sometimes.A bunch of tracks from the old Gremlin Interactive games Loaded and Re:Loaded:https://files.catbox.moe/dfxbz0.zipThese probably fit better in the more techbase kind of levels.Tracks from various versions of the Diablo mod The Hell:https://files.catbox.moe/hsxk0h.zipThese are actually moody and spooky as fuck, I think these would fit pretty well as substitutes for the original Trent Reznor soundtrack in overall feel.
>>12089962>Is he?His attitude towards BloodCM come off as very insecure. That's what I'm judging it off.https://x.com/SVKaiser/status/1126922637475766272>He still got early version of PowerslaveEX and extremely early probably unusable version of TurokEX open sourced on his GithubWould've been good to see those updated, but that won't be in Nightdive's style.>I just don't think that there is any interest in that code.I think there would've been. That would've allowed people to have a deeper look at where things went exactly wrong with Fresh Supply and fix it themselves. There's clearly no interest in that, I'll agree with you.>There was a lot of funny shit like this happeningIt does sound fun.
>>12090029I mean, a comparison to BloodCM is only barely above a comparison to ZBlood. I'd say it's a reasonable-ish thing to be pissed off about. I can see the argument how it actually uses Build at core, but it is a gross oversimplification of how things internally work.That said, it might've sounded to him like a personal attack on his own road as a developer too, considering that he gone from making Doom 64 Absolution TC for Doomsday to making Doom64EX, from which point it might've been insecure, but I feel like that is reaching.
The older i get the less and less i care about perfect twitch aiming and i just want to play with a controllerdoom on woof plays really well with a controller
Giving it another whirl for the love of the level. Beginning of this run made me laugh out fucking loud.>>12090103Doom as a game is fairly accommodating to gamepads, you can have half decent controls without analog sticks, and genuinely decent with two analog sticks.Woof and Nugget (and GzDoom) have good gamepad support also, and also they allow you to use a mouse at the same time as a gamepad, in case that's something you want to try.I came to prefer analog stick to WASD as I got older (more comfortable on my fingers and wrist), but I wanted to keep using mouse, so I was glad to discover that this actually works pretty well.I also see some people say they get a good substitute for mouseaim with gyro input, but I don't know if Woof and Nugget actually support that.
>>12090121I still prefer a keyboard, but Doom's lack of vertical camera control lends itself well to analog stick usage. You can roll the stick around instead of simply nudging a camera like you would in other games.
interesting..
Double-balls, I fumbled the first Cyber, what a stupid end to a good run. At least the start is hilarious, and the level is a lot of fun.https://files.catbox.moe/6iuzj4.lmp
>>12090020I held off on saying this yesterday but ill say it now: the first thing you recommended was more Trent Reznor when people are complaining about too much Trent Reznor. You are not escaping the cult allegations.
>>12089928>>120892706:25 https://files.catbox.moe/v7f2d2.lmp
>>12090139wut wad?
I play Arcane Dimensions while blasting Touhou fan music. Have you even lived if you didn't play AD_Tears without listening to Enclosed Dancehall?
>>12090162thread challenge
>>12090172>Touhou>>>/out/
>>12090196Funny thing is I used to go on 2 hour long walks while listening to all the stuff I had downloaded, I should go back to that. I find it easier to come up with mapping ideas while walking.Sucks that damn near everywhere around me is urbanized.
Does anyone know what I need to do to make mouselook not feel like complete ass in Aleph One?
>>12090103I like to go back and forth depending on the game. Console ports are very comfortable with a gamepad but crazier stuff still requires a mouse and keyboard.
>>12090149I skimmed some of those posts, and also threw it in as just an additional alternative. The other two are different anyway.I'm not strongly married to it, I love the soundtracks to the expansions too, and those sound nothing at all like the base game's soundtrack.
>>12089270https://litter.catbox.moe/ibtywhuq0w10y9ru.lmp6:32
>>12089221>thursday night survival>vertex relocation wad>it's guywithteacup map>everybody dies several times in a rowThis should be easier in coop. Why his maps are even harder? This is some sunder-ass shit right here. Some MK Ultra shit.
>>12090228You can play pretty much anything with controller using motion aim
What pwad is this?
What's a good doom wad for someone that paints faces on their pumpkins instead carving them out when making jack o lanterns?
>>12090247My issue with AD was not using a broader variety of Q1 tracks. The Trent soundtrack is great, I would just get kind of tired of Focus.>>12090318I have no interest playing things like Hideous Destructor, Deathstrider, or Project Gryphon with a controller but I’d still like to see it.
>>12090325Exorcise.
Without going into either episode 3 or episode 4 I managed to use the crusher in pic related to activate thor's blessing to quickly fly up grab the golden key and then fly over the gate to go grab mjolnir early and then slayed the dragon. Neat. Seems to have opened up a final area too but I was just secret exploring when I decided to see what would happen if I stood in the place where the silver key was.
>>12090383
>>12090382Thanks
>>12089221>>12089223>again created after thread is dead>again old linkFucking amateurs. New link for SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Deus Ex): https://imgur.com/a/wB0psIahttps://imgur.com/a/wB0psIa
>>12090364>I have no interest playing things like Hideous Destructor, Deathstrider, or Project Gryphon with a controller but I’d still like to see it.I bought a controller specifically to test gameplay in DS and concluded that it's impossible to support it. For one, InputProcess doesn't even have proper controller support so a majority of the menu won't work correctly. The relevant feature suggestion that was opened about three months ago has gone stale. Then there's the problem of having too many buttons. Euro Truck Simulator 2 cleverly solved that issue by having customizable modifier keys, but that doesn't work here because GZDoom's bindings are far too simple. Delta Touch seems marginally more playable than a controller. I know, I don't like that fact either.
>>12090446I wonder if some variant of a weapon wheel could be used for various commands, or if that would get too cumbersome for HD and DS anyway?
>>12090431>>again created after thread is dead>>again old linkBased, v8 still has less lies, and this thread was made well after the old thread had died which is incredibly considerate to /vr/. Much better than when https://warosu.org/vr/thread/12060373 happened.Adding entries to https://clovr.xyz/wadsup/ is still worth more time than updating the infograph.
IT BURNS IT BURNS
>>12090476Join us!Join us!PLEURGH! PLEURGH!Join us!
>>12090456For HD it might be a lot easier to do. There are fewer things to support and the majority of commands are simple key combinations. Easy to say in theory, though. For me personally it'd be a waste of time for the amount of effort required to attempt to support that kind of thing for DS, both to create and later maintain it, assuming it's even possible to begin with. There isn't a large enough playerbase to test, develop for, or even justify the feature to begin with, and within that already small group only a fraction of a fraction would actually use a controller to play this kind of mod. Making sure both types of input are supported without dumbing things down just isn't worth it. Games geared toward controllers/consoles tend to have the UI and gameplay designed around that fact, and because those are more limited by design it's inevitable to "streamline" certain concepts. I'm not willing to sacrifice any of the current gameplay/QoL to accommodate consolefags, as much as I'd like to see the mod become more accessible on principle.
I'm liking Alkaline as well.
>>12090534
>>12090534zamn
>backing up files>start copying my doom folder holding all the wads I've downloaded over the years>"Microsoft Defender has blocked a threat">huh.quake>look at the affected item which windows says is a trojan>it's some zip for a wad with the filename "boa_c2_s.zip" that I downloaded in 2019Anyone know what wad this is? I can't remember. Going to delete it anyways just in case.
>>12090575Sorry, pal. All your personal information is now outsourced to New Delhi. Sorry you had to hear about this way.
>>12090534Love it. What skill are you starting on?>>12090575>boaBlade of Agony maybe?
>>12090575boa_c2_s.zipblade of agony chapter 2
>>12090583I'm just on easy or normal till I get a feel for how hard the mapsets are. I learned this with some of the doom mods I'd get recommended. Some stuff I'll go straight to ultra violence with in doom but it depends on the map/mapper in question or what I hear about the map in advance.
>>12090583>>12090584That's most likely it, thanks.
>>12090602kinda weird though why a wad would trigger that. did it say what trojan it was? could do a websearch on it
>>12090596Smart. I went “I’m hardcore!” on skill 3 when I first played it a year ago and some moments really clapped me, especially the level here: >>12090228 It’s been better revisiting it after knowing what to expect, and maybe after a side of “good getting”.
>>12090608>Trojan:Win32/Tiggre!rfnand>Trojan:Script/Wacatac.B!mlare the two it reported
>>12090602looks like a false positive, it should be finehttps://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?style=5&t=47801&start=2745https://www.doomworld.com/news/blade-of-agony-chapter-1-released-r5237/?page=2
>>12089476I had a blast with the first few heretic levels, then I hit a point that continuously crashed my game. This was after giving up on one of the episodes (3 maybe?) where I reached a point that kept crashing my game.Cool mod but a huge shame the team dropped it when the lead died, could really use some bugfixes/polish.
>>12090608If it's bundled with an old version of GzDoom it might do it since those has some massive fucking vulnerabilities for arbitrary code shit.
>>12090020Thanks anon, grabbed.
Anyone tried pic related? I couldn't get into it, the fucking flashback scenes reminds me of playing a walking sim like Gone Home. Fucking lame as hell.
>>12090172>touhou
>>12090103I enjoy laying back and playing a game on a controller, but platformers are a much more natural pairing. Fast-paced FPS on a controller is just inferior, but fair enough something like doom might be passable. Quake, OTOH, is completely pointless on anything other than mouse and keyboard (or maybe a trackpad or trackball for masochists among us).
>>12090431Who cares, I mean you're linking fucking imgur anyway, which is inaccessible by anybody in the UK. How is that not a bigger concern than some meaningless text update.
>>12090575The possibility you'll get a virus from inspecting a zip file is basically nil. Tell us what's inside.For what it's worth, false positives are fairly common.
>>12090731The fighting stopped being about the imgur after the first few weeks, nobody even really looks, the rest has been a fucking year of hysteria and personal power struggle bullshit.
>>12090712I might try to give it another ago. I was burnt out on modded D3 when I tried it and those “somber moments” didn’t help much. Not sure how much I want that kind of stuff in my Doom unless there’s some sort of horrific payoff.
>>12090731wtf bongs can't use fucking IMGUR?
>>12090020Thanks. How do you use these without removing and replacing the original tracks? My complaint is the lack of tracks, I actually like what we have I just wished we had more.
>>12090743Imgur recently geoblocked the UK due to blah politics something-or-other.Really, compared to photobucket, imageshack, and all the other dead image hosts over the years, i'm surprised imgur lasted as long as it did...
>>12090759>Really, compared to photobucket, imageshack, and all the other dead image hosts over the years, i'm surprised imgur lasted as long as it did...Tied to reddit and it's been running at a loss for most of a decade to crowd out the competition.
>>12090743Does a number on a lot of forums now.
>>12090787Yeah our government is fucking retardedSomeone please nuke us already
>>12090731Bong here, I had no idea about this until now. Christ I hate our government, they deserve to be replaced with that dumb kneejerk Reform lot.I'm surprised we can still come here considering everything, and I'm going to miss you guys when they inevitably ban this place.
>>12090787uk is doomed
>>12090816They actually tried to fine 4chan for the retarded age verification bill they passed but 4chan told them to kick rocks and are fighting them in courtIf fucking 4chan wins against the UK it will be the most embarrassing thing the bri'ish government have done since the last embarrassing thing, and it does look like they have a strong case.
>>12090816>I'm going to miss you guys when they inevitably ban this place.Pretty sure here in aus we already have some firewall that is/was meant to block 4chan, unless they loosened it at some point.Anyway, we're all going to end up in some 1984-esque cross brave new world nightmare within our lifetimes, but what can we do other than play some doom and find new vpns.
>>12090832Also a significant amount of 4chan's traffic comes from the UK, no way would Hiro abandon us.
>>12090816>>12090832Ofcom had the site target before that shit came into power, they basically felt like it was a good one to make an example out of since nobody would defend it.
>>12090159>You can hit the humble sicko to make him go away. Despite playing the map, I somehow didn't realize that.>>12090256Is this the same anon as above? I think I missed the timeframe to download the lmp. Did you use litterbox because catbox was down?
>>12090731>>12090816Crazy how cucky people are everywhere. Literally nothing is ever too much, they'll just take any infringement upon freedom until there's none left
>>12090787that is so fucking stupid
Is there a way to find where the secrets are in a build game? More specifically, AMCSquad.
>>12090852No he's not me. I have his lmp https://files.catbox.moe/b1fkfe.lmp
>>12090861Not to get too off topic but normalfags are unironically braindead retardcattle. They'll sell all their freedoms out to the talking heads and keep voting for robber barons who are taking everything away from them.You can even see the same behavior on current day 4chan. A handful of boards are an endless fountain of raid groups/discords that are shitting the entire website to death, the mods don't enforce 4chan's directly written rules against coordinated raiders as long as they're attacking someone the mod doesn't like, you're more likely to get banned for reporting a rule-breaking post than the rule-breaker, there are basically entire boards where the rules haven't been getting enforced even years before the site got hacked, and nobody gives a shit.
>>12090914>You can even see the same behavior on current day 4chan. A handful of boards are an endless fountain of raid groups/discords that are shitting the entire website to death, the mods don't enforce 4chan's directly written rules against coordinated raiders as long as they're attacking someone the mod doesn't like, you're more likely to get banned for reporting a rule-breaking post than the rule-breaker, there are basically entire boards where the rules haven't been getting enforced even years before the site got hacked, and nobody gives a shit.Exactly. Vr doesn't have raids and spam threads as such but we do have an anti-doom spammer in this general who's been protected by literally more than 10 years now.
>>12090915Well done Anon, you're become so stuck on your stupid meta board fight bullshit it's actually rendered you blind.
>>12090924>https://vrdoom.booru.org/what even is this?
surprise body paint armor
>>12090935You are a gentleman and a scholar.
>>12090935It's still Screenshot Saturday, right? I'd make the post if I had the image on me.
>>12090935h doom but better (if it had h)
>>12090918Yeah no I wasn't talking about your schizo nonsense
>>12090935Nice, you're still working on La Tailor Girl?
>>12090942There's nothing schizo about it, check the archived threads for the past year. It's abundantly clear exactly what's going on. And it's not just vr with such less obvious pocketing
Pretty skybox, shame I'm having horrible flashbacks to Xen.
>>12090960xen is literally some of the best half life has to offer
>>12090960Reminds me more of MAP14 from Epic 2.
>>12090968I've seen some people saying this, but I'm not sure how they think it. Is it due to the more old school feel with the platforming?
>>12090935I'd rip and tear that, if you know what I mean.
>>12090984It is genuinely otherworldly, initially incomprehensible and different from the places you could see as plausible in the real world (i.e. the rest of the game). It leaves a lot of room for imagination.
Made some honestly very shitty copypasted dorms. 5 rows of two "beds" each, more or less zero privacy but at least you don't need to share the same exact space with the mouthbreaher next to you.The bathrooms and showers are suitably cramped and shitty. Seems fitting to have a place that looks quite nice leading up to the dorms only for it to snap back into maximum effiency, zero comfort.Might make it less shitty though, I forced myself to map and I'm not sure I like just how cramped everything here is desu.
>>12090968Xen was aesthetically and conceptually interesting but a huge let-down gameplay wise. I realize this is such a popular opinion that it might seem like bandwagoning against which contrarians should gainsay - but no, it really is just a huge wasted potential. I say this as someone that normally revels in contrarian shitposting.
>>12090968I wouldn't say that personally. I didn't hate Xen like so many did but it was just "alright", it was clearly put together in the last minute.
>>12090993I don't mind most of the platforming but stuff like the testiclecrab and one or two of the object puzzles were a bit vague.I also think Black Mesa made it worse by not really getting what Xen got wrong.
>>12091003black mesa's xen is shiteeven worse than the blue shart mod train segment
>>12090787Imgur shouldn't have been used for this purpose in the first place desu. Host your own images.
>>12090960I like Xen a lot.
>>12091010It's something I've been on at people for a long time, if you don't own your spaces and instead give hosting over to a centralized location like imgur or discord or whatever then you're basically giving people the keys to do shit like this.A lot of control has been lost in the name of mild convenience.
>>12091003>>12091006Black mesa got everything wrong by ruining the movement of the game, but yeah they probably butchered Xen the worst.The only thing BM did well was the artistry, which is not a surprise since basically their entire team were young artists and none were experienced game designers or programmers, and none were around when hl1 released...
>>12089221what are thoughts on gretel grosse?
Why of all MIDIs that were unchanged, both TNT and Plutonia kept MAP23? Was it considered good at the time?
Trying to flesh out another room, need to brush up on my brush furniture sculpting skills
>>12091057Would.
>>12090968this
>>12091074Already better than the remaster.Keep it up anon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHUW2b_JiZcThese animations keep getting better.
I'm late to posting this but it's STILL SCREENSHOT SATURDAY MOTHERFUCKERS, WHAT'VE YOU BEEN WORKING ON? Maps, mods, sprites? Now's a good time to post that shit!
>>12090787lmao
>>12091171I continue doing my a room a day thing. As I decided on doing 16 rooms, I have 5 more rooms to make.
>>12090881Only by opening the map in mapster. If you looking for unlocks and all that just go to wiki
>>12091235>If you looking for unlocks and all that just go to wikiI have and the wiki is outdated, they added and changed secrets of old chapters in the new release
>>12091237Unlucky I guess. This reminded me that many unlocks in AMC maps are hidden but NOT tagged as secret, hated that shit
>>12091241Man, you have no idea how long it took me to find the weapon salesman in the hub. Because some fucking genius had the brilliant idea to put him in some far removed cave outside the actual base.
>>12091241It's so people don't get bitchy about not being able to 100% secret a map on all characters.
>>12091249Guess they backtracked on that, since they changed one of the secrets on Zeta base to only be accessible for Merlijn
>>12091168poor cacos
>>12091248Dude. He's behind a waterfall.
>>12091274Yeah that was the first place I looked for something when I got to exploring the map.
Guys I'm trying to play this mod and map pack but it won't load, what am I doing wrong?
>>12091291You need Doom 2 in the iwads section, dummy.
>>12091291Map should always be first in the load order, then gameplay, then addons/patches.
>>12091181Looks cozy.
>>12091171don't have anything to show yet because i'm stuck on something that's doing my nut in: how do i get DECORATE to A_Jump somewhere if the target is a player and the player has a UserCVar set to true?
>>12091306How do I add it? I can drag and drop it in the box for external files but not the IWAD side.>>12091312OH, I had the addon file switched around, thank you. This works even with the doom2 wad not in ZDL because it just opens GZDoom and I select it there.
>>12091328>How do I add it?Drop it into the iwad section on the right of the general settings tab
What's the appeal of making sprites low resolution? Especially when normies playing the mod with gzdoom will play it with texture filtering.
>>12089223Serious Sam 2 got a 25th anniversary patch.https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/204340/view/520852898086650127
>>12091337>What's the appeal of making sprites low resolution?High as fuck res ones don't look right.>Especially when normies playing the mod with gzdoom will play it with texture filtering.They're not my concern, or my problem.
>>12091334Thanks!
>>12091339holy shit they did the meme
>>12091339>Steam Community items>Renovation mod now made official>UI graphics redrawn in higher scaler>Various bug fixesMeh.>Scroll to the bottom>See pic (>>12091348, ninja'd)...Alright, Croteam has earned a little more respect from me.
Do you know all the ancient Chinese secrets?
AMC has some weird ass bugs. Doing the big trouble in china map, if you take NPC(s) aides to the train section and they all die, the HUD just completely disappears.
>>1209133920th, not 25th. Retard.
>>12091339>Removed the “Renovation” episode to avoid confusion for new players.I didn't know Valve worked on this update.
I saw some youtube video where someone claimed the G-Man was just some employee of the US government in the original Half-Life and not some strange entity beyond comprehension... I have to ask, does anyone really think that and how did they come to that conclusion? I mean really, even if we ignore everything aside from the original game even disregarding the expansions of the original game, we're still talking about a character who can seemingly teleport at will, speaks in a bizarrely stunted manner about mysterious employers and his way of "hiring" Gordon involves a series of confusing actions. This character was clearly never meant to be a normal human or even working for normal humans.
>>12091389If I'm remembering right he did start off that way but HL1 went through a lot of revisions with some stuff like the name and overall being kept anyway.
>>12091389>>12091393I mean this was the era of X-Files, "just a g-man" with inexplicable powers and presence would be par for the course
>>12091389Charlie Sheen stretches like that?
anyone doing Doom deathmatches?
/vr/os Do any of you know about a wad that has the Doom 2 maps but with the playstation graphics & music? I have been looking but I have only managed to find basically some total conversions & custom source ports, I just want to find the maps with the playstation graphics & music.
ZDL seems more confusing to me than just running it from terminal or editing the config file, plus it's ancient, it's time for it to die.
>>12091461>ZDL seems more confusing to me than just running it from terminal or editing the config fileIt's just drag and drop with being able to save shit, nothing to it.>plus it's ancient It's cool bro, I got you a new launcher.
>>12089518What the heck did i even buy on Steam?
>>12090883Thanks. It's not exactly necessary to watch his lmp since he apparently didn't get a record time, but I still like to watch all the demos people post for challenges out of curiosity.
>>12091527Blood in a new hat by the sounds of it, without knowing what you were actually getting.
>>12091425I think this covers the graphics and sounds, but you'll need to load the PSX soundtrack separately.>https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/144075-vanillapsx-by-dron12261-mod-for-near-vanilla-source-ports/
>>12091587I'm a dumbass and forgot including this.>https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=55298This has the maps with reverb and music too.
>>12090935very naisuYD dancer outfit when
Did the Mohrta demo get completely removed from Steam? I swore I had it in my library, but now I can't find it.
>>12091663Looks like it, Itch to the rescue.https://scumhead.itch.io/mohrta-demo
>>12089656i have no idea about this, actually. i had heard it was lost, not locked away
>>12091324figured it out with ACS, had to use SetActivatorToTarget
>REKKR? More like SHITTR, is it even an unofficially canonical fifth episode to DOOM bro? I don't fucking think so, KNEEL and DRINK my KNOB KNAIVE.
Opinions on Civvie11? I think he referred to /vr/ (these threads specifically) the worst people on earth in one of his vids for some reason lol
>>12091786I like his videos a lot. He helped introduce me to several fps games I've found to be quite enjoyable.
>>12091786>I think he referred to /vr/ (these threads specifically) the worst people on earth in one of his vids for some reason lolIt was because of Shadow Warrior. He got into some shitflinging with another anon saying "you can only beat it with savescumming" and assumed the whole board felt that way.He can be funny while his gameplay and other takes can be stupid.
So look, I think the premise and setting of TekWar is really cool, like an open world ish FPS RPG like Strife but in Build and with a cyberpunk setting. But its a horrible execution. Has anyone used the sprites or game itself and like fixed it or made it playable?
>>12091814try deus ex
>>12091786Overrated, both by himself and by his audience, increasingly can't keep his tongue out of corporate anuses, not really useful or interesting the way somebody like Ross Scott can be.
>>12091786pc's very own irate gamer
>>12091796I like his vids too. He's a fun listen when he's being apolitical, which is most of the time.Hasn't really introduced me to anything that I'm aware of... Vivisector I guess. But it's fun to watch through the ones I have no interest in playing myself tho, and hear a take on the ones I have played.
Ok, question for the anti-save state crowd out there, specifically in relation to Doom. Let's say there is a map with a clear "death zone," that is, an area where the odds of you surviving on the first try are almost zero. You need multiple play-throughs to figure out the routing and flow. But, let's say you can get to that point easily, trivially, 9 times out of 10.Do you still feel that saving before the death zone is cheating, cheap, lame, etc., or is it just a sensible use of time?These days I mostly play for fun and don't concern myself too much with 100% perfect play-throughs, but I still try to reduce unnecessary saves / save-states to the bare minimum.I'm pistol starting a bunch of .wads and have found this coming up repeatedly. (I would still need to replay the death zones even without pistol start.) It feels bad to save during an otherwise hardcore run, but replaying the same parts over and over utterly kills my desire to even get to the hard part again. What are your thoughts?
>>12091843the anti-save state crowd is consolecucks idc
>>12091836>Hasn't really introduced me to anything that I'm aware ofSeems like he goes for the really obvious stuff so really any help if you've already got an interest going, I fully expect he's going to run down the list of Raven games till he's stuck doing stuff like CyClones and the Vampire engine games.
>>12091846yeah he's just a radio beacon for whatever hidden gem is collectively circlejerked on troonshoot xitter/bluesky
>>12091851>troonshoot xitter/blueskyI was hoping I wouldn't have to see any of the words you just posted today.
>>12091843If you feel like saving then save, especially if it's your first few attempts at a map/wad where you've not got the practice in to clear it more easily.>>12091851Pretty much, he only even covered Chasm because the Dusk developer kept going on about it.
>>12091854Anon, you're on 4chan. It doesn't matter where you go, you're gonna see that sorta brainrot every day.You learn to mentally filter it out after awhile, though internally I'm still gonna call that guy a massive faggot. I guess externally now, so let me make an honest man of myself.>>12091851You're a massive faggot.
>>12091868wholesome
>>12091868effeminate post
>>12091786>watching a middle aged man pretend to have strong opinions on games from over 20 years ago and beat the same few gags to death over and over againi'm no longer in high school. referencing 5chins in most youtube videos, especially the aforementioned kind, seems kinda lame though.
>>12091168I just love how unga bunga Blueguy is.
>>12091854It's always stuck at the front of some anon's mind.
>>12090731One anon was trying to remake the content on wadsup, at least in the context of Doom, but that leaves the rest of the vidya unchecked. Also doesn't help that most free hosting doesn't have custom URLs either other than Rentry of which you can lose the document if the content hasn't been updated in a year. On the other hand, the UK's internet is massively cucked anyway and they wouldn't be on 4chan without a proxy or VPN as-is either, if they can read this site then they can browse Imgur too.That said, even if you improvise and went with self-hosting, at this point the guy will probably just try to ninja in his Imgur link out of spite.
>>12091786that literal cock sucker gives money to blm and supported the george floyd riots
Started playing Quake II and I'm having a lot of fun. Guns feel great, the map design's engaging and doesn't feel repetitive, and there's a surprising amount of detail for a game from 1997. To me this feels like that missing link between old style of FPS's and Half-Life 1.
>>12091898it's better when played through ground zero. hopelessly mogs any marine combat section in hl1
>>12091898Good to see you enjoying it, and it does improve with each expansion as >>12091902 infers. It's one of the few shooters where enemy behavior gets better with expacs.
>>12091910the expansions themselves are typical "we paid college dropouts a loaf of bread and gave them a week of dev time to stretch out the relevance factor of our flagship fps by shitting out an ad that eats up space on a sam's club big box games shelf" garbage, but you can play the base campaign with ground zero's ai
>>12091927>but you can play the base campaign with ground zero's aiI'm assuming that's this?
>>12091928just type game rogue; skill 3; map base1 in console
>>12091937Gotcha, thanks dude.
>>12091940That will put you on "hard+" by the way, which won't be an issue if you already were.
>>12091942Ah, I was playing on Medium to test the waters.
>>12091950Skill 0-3 is easy through hardest, and you can change difficulty whenever you want through the console.
>>12091956
>>12091894>That said, even if you improvise and went with self-hosting, at this point the guy will probably just try to ninja in his Imgur linkDon't mind him now when he just did that.
>>12091885
>>12091979
>>12091983
>>12091168the door gag is astoundingly relatable, but the actual deep cut is punching the air to wake the lost soul back up since nobody had shot it
>>12091985>Holding: Imp>>12091990I honestly did not even know that was a thing.
>>12091968What gets my hell knight is that, after pining over Cutmanmike's dick for ten years, time alone should have been enough for somebody to write about their beloved competently or at least accurately.>Mike 'Cut-man' and his friendsWha?
>>12091994
>>12092002Also, his sloppy toppy gets cut off two-thirds in.
>>12090929>what even is this?Meme depot.>>12091968>added four hours after the deleted post said the wadsup wasn't in the OP, which itself has been in every OP - including the ones with the "updated" imgur link - for several yearsIf I get time tomorrow I could start copying the descriptions for a bunch of the other mods and put them on there.>>12092002>>12092012That first sentence doesn't really need to be there. The v9 person has always had trouble with writing the entries so I'm not surprised.
It's nearly 2AM, I'm a few beers in and about to sleep like a rock but thanks for being here. /DOOM/ is cozy, even moreso with Megafag behind megabars (for now anyway). It's always fun seeing what shenanigans you're partaking and if I'm feeling blue, chances are a meme here helps me laugh for a bit.Have an excellent night, anons.
>>12092026Sleep well, Anon.
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>>12092002From the beginning with this shit, they've all been written really fucking weirdly, I guess there's few people with any interest in the mod who can be normal about it.>>12092017It's that fucking holdover from one of the earlier attempts getting called out for having a weird line about being developed by somebody talented or something, makes even less sense on wadsup since it has the authorship field.
Rise of the Triangles is clearly episodic, why remove the tag?
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>>12091820No I specifically mean Capstone's TekWar. Has there ever been an attempt to "fix" it?I've beat Deus Ex a bunch of times over the years already. The fact they tried something like TekWar with sprites in build is what is so intriguing to me.
>>12092065>Has there ever been an attempt to "fix" it?A few, I think they all came to the same sticking point that it's not worth the effort to remake 90% of what's there to work as a game and not look like shit.
>>12091846>CyClonesIt needs more attention, it's remarkable yet virtually unknown by most shooter fans
>>12092075>it's remarkable yet virtually unknown by most shooter fansBet you get a lot of people around these parts who only recognize it by the way of the assets that got used in Doom wads.
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>>12092047I forgot that it was. That's all. I figured I'd made a mistake when I added it.I'll add it back in.I was testing some page editing when I noticed it.
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>>12092097Blue guy flattening the Baron with a support beam is the highlight of the video for me.
>>12092073It really wouldn't be much to salvage, the game's assets and levels just aren't good, if you badly wanted an open world cyberpunk game in Build, you'd basically need to start from scratch.>>12092080I don't think I've actually seen CyClones assets used in Doom before.
>>12092157Ok, clearly this is something I must watch. Maybe during lunch.>>12092002So, if that entry is gonna be there, can someone rewrite it so that it isn't fucking shit?Also, I'm nostalgic for Ghoul's Forest 3 and GvH, which I think are much more significant .wads of Mike's, those should be there at some point.
>>12092171You should, all of the episodes right now total up to like 15 minutes. It's all really well done.
>>12092171>So, if that entry is gonna be there, can someone rewrite it so that it isn't fucking shit?After all this, I don't think that the mod deserves human dignity, but neither do I want there to be a retarded, broken blurb on the tileview.It's a pinch.>GvHNever been much of a multiplayer guy, though I remember it being really active back when Zandy had more of a community.With Halloween almost here, I might grab it and walk through the maps for my horror/atmosphere folder.
>>12092101>I was testing some page editing when I noticed it.Oh yeah, I just noticed some change too. Such a pain in the ass, and I was prepared to do some editing. Perhaps the other time.
>>12091598>yeah levels hard>ass test>faggot based halloween>ESPECIALLY REASONABLE MEGAFAGGOT
>>12092290Well that doesn't sound right.
Is there a weapon sway mod for GZDoom that works like the Half-Life 2 sway? I know there is a "Universal weapon sway" thing which makes the weapon sway with the mouse but it doesn't rotate 3d models.
>>12091074How hard is it to make a Deus Ex mod? I have some remedial experience with brush-based level editos thanks to Hammer and have tinkered once with PostED (postal 2's version of unrealed)
Can Kaypro run Doom?
>>12092373in my opinion the kaypro is the peak of personal computing
>>12092373My watch has more memory than that piece of crap.
>>12092319Universal Weapon Sway? Maybe I should get that, Iove the little sway effect in Nugget, I'd love it for muh GzDoom as well.
>>12091786unfunny faggot who ragequit twitter because le orange man
>>12092171>So, if that entry is gonna be there, can someone rewrite it so that it isn't fucking shit?>2025/10/12 02:59>User abilities limited to creating pages via the ADD WAD template for now. Just in case.fuck
>>12091527An overhaul update to Fresh Supply that they made standalone on PC because it's more profitable to fool people into spending more money for.>>12091786He was enjoyable to follow in the past, but hit the wall like AVGN and started to get insufferable like gmanlives and most of that retro/indie FPS scene.>>12091807>He got into some shitflinging with another anon saying "you can only beat it with savescumming" and assumed the whole board felt that way.Have archive link by any chance?>>12092420>le orange manWhat did Decino do to him?
>>12090840>go to play some Doom>WARNING: DEMONIC PRESENCE DETECTED>deletes all your wads
>>12090840>Anyway, we're all going to end up in some 1984-esque cross brave new world nightmare within our lifetimesThe human race needs to be punished for existing.
>>12092461Just the shitty OLD MEN running the world need to be punished.WARNING. WARNING.
>>12092464Nope. Everyone. We're all guilty of the crime of being born.
>>12092470Start with yourself.
>>12092391Well yeah, the Apple Watch has at least 1GB of RAM, whatever you have is probably at least that much, which is way higher than the Kaypro's 64 KB.
>>12091786he was funny few years ago now he doesn't even try. Dropped his whole act in that one vid for no reason. I often rewatch his 4yrs old stuff but nothing recent catches my attention
>>12091680How about a rekkr /vr/ mapping project?Kekkr: Assault on Castle Romero>>12092356I don’t know how’s PostED but the deus ex sdk is pretty shitty to map in, for brush based editors I only used Trenchbroom before and it’s so much better. It’s probably still better than mapster for build engine games. If you’re a deus ex loving man like me you should be able to adapt to it. If you ever need links to editor patches and tutorials to get it running let me know here and I’ll post it.There’s also a hacky implementation of UED2 for Deus Ex which supposedly fixes some things but you cannot place objects in it or something and you still have to hop between the two versions, I haven’t used it yet though>>12092464Old men are the future
>12091979>12091983>12091985>12091994>12092004>12092039>12092060>12092097>12092149You can convert the video to a webm instead of spamming.>>12091786Under some of his videos, he occasionally links a tranny that tries to connect every anime to his trans agenda. Most of what Civ says is general consensus or widely popular opinions, so he doesn't add anything new really.
>>12092504>How about a rekkr /vr/ mapping project?>Kekkr: Assault on Castle RomeroNow there's a community project I could get behind
Okay, I completed Dimension of the Machine and enjoyed it.>Realm of the MachinistsNice start to the episode, I don't see how it's themed unless the Machinists were sewer workers.>Realm of the BlacksmithsThe best realm. It feels like you're fighting your way into and through a massive forge, I really liked this, great looking maps and fun fights. You really had to fight for the Rune and unplugging it from the device caused all hell to break loose. I wish the other realms did this sort of thing with their Runes.>Realm of the StonemasonsMore like realm of the FUCKING VORES. I expected a big stone castle or something but it's just lava. It's okay, but fuck the obsession with platforming and why do you need this many vores? No illuminati anywhere, 0/10.>Realm of the CultistsHey, I get Ranger is pushing your shit in but you really don't need to give up this hard. The smallest and easiest realm, I loved the visual of the giant evil cathedral at the start and what I thought was lava at the end turning out to be a weird underground sunset. Odd that the first level gives you the SSG last, even after the secret thunderbolt. I'm assuming it's trying to do some storytelling with the Enforcers shooting at the monsters near the end but it also could have been an AI fuckup trying to kill me and setting off an infight war.>Realm of the AstrologersThe start was a bit shit thanks to the jumping part, but getting teleported into that research base was a neat twist, as was overriding security and causing a big war. The second map was cool, with the Grunts and Enforcers trying to explore an ancient temple and all the scripted infighting>Final MapOH BOY, IT'S CHTHON! AGAIN! You had expansion bosses to choose from and you did this. A better boss fight that his original appearance I guess...Pretty good all the same, I liked this more than the new Quake 2 episode, but I'm a little confused why they didn't add expansion content into all this.
>>12092607>but I'm a little confused why they didn't add expansion content into all thisMore like why they didn't add any new content to this new expansion at all and it's just a vanilla map pack, when even the tiny studios with infinitely worse modding tools managed to do that two decades ago.
I just found out that Heretic doesn't have a grass flat. The closest thing it has is this flat that's used in E5M1, which looks more like moss-covered stone.
>>12092607>>12092665The addition of expansion and other enemies (like the arachnid, gunner commander, and shamblers) played a big role in me preferring Call over Dimension.
>>12089221>>12089223SUB MORTEM : A Dead Simple Halloween ProjectJust for the mood of the season, a simple and straightforward mapping project. I wanted to play around with these textures and props more, and so did some others.>Assets: Ad Mortem, no additional assets or custom textures (there's already LOTS).https://files.catbox.moe/tsacv4.zip>iWAD: Doom 2>Map Format: MBF21>Constraint: Playable area MUST fit 2048x2048 box.>Deadline: Your level should be fully completed by October 31st.The idea here is that I provide the latest published build of Ad Mortem with the levels stripped out, and that's used as the temporary asset pack which we make maps with.When Sub Mortem is finished and completed, it'd work as its own 'expansion pack' to Ad Mortem, a .wad containing only the levels, music tracks, and a UMAPINFO lump, which you load on top of Ad Mortem so it adds itself as a selectable second episode. (We'd probably arrange Sub's levels starting at MAP40 or so, just to be safe).If Ad Mortem itself ever has that vaunted final version made, it would be trivial to tweak Sub Mortem in case any of its map slots would need to be shifted or anything.I would really not want to add any custom content onto this like new textures, DeHacked, etc, because this should slot effortlessly and seamlessly onto Ad Mortem, which already has LOT of good stuff to work with anyway. Only levels and their music tracks.You have a little over 2 weeks to put the map together, and since it's constrained to 2048, you can't get carried away into some sort of magnum opus which won't be finished in time. I basically just expect a turnout of 4 or 5 maps or so, but that's still good enough.
>>12091786Inoffensive, can be funny when he tries but most of the time he doesn't. I watched a few of his older videos a while back and thought they were mildly entertaining, and that some of his opinions were REALLY stupid; but that's about it. Ahoy and JarektheGamingDragon (when I remember he exists) are probably the only YouTubers in that area I watch.
>>12092502>Dropped his whole act in that one vid for no reason.If that's the one I'm thinking of, then yeah.>>12092607I liked Dimension of the Machine overall, but it could've used at least some expansion stuff.>>12092875>AhoyThe best out there in the field by far.
>>12091598>megaman love nicebased and true
>>12092867Oh shit's happening
>>12092867second episode of ad mortem? based
>>12092883>The best out there in the field by far.He uploads so infrequently but when he does it's a surefire hit. His videos on real-life guns in video games are actually what got me to pay attention to older shooters initially.
>>12092887It's just a small thing. I really want to play with these textures some, but I don't want to step on Vaeros's toes directly, he seems very attached to the project and has stuff in mind for it, so I figure a basic compromise like this would be good fun that doesn't get in the way.I expect you guys to pick MIDIs which fit the Halloween mood.
>>12092895really hope the anti-game spammer doesn't shit talk creators into not doing this like he did with duke
>>12091384Man, I still remember the cp_snowplow bullshit, but was glad they finally added it one year later. The End of the Line Update, as fitting as that name is, was when TF2's downfall started IMO.
>>12091786I find him entertaining, although he really sucks at the games he claims to be good at. I'm glad he dropped his shitty Mr. Plinkett but videogames persona he was attempting in the early days too because that was embarrassing and desperate.I guess he's like an American Yahtzee for how grumpy he's trying to be, but his tirades are done better by guys like Ross. He's still one of the few youtubers I'll watch though, because the alternative are annoying gen Zs acting like they've discovered some hidden treasure by playing "those old videogames".
>>12092907I don't mind the kids trying out old games, honestly.
>>12092875>AhoyCinema.
>>12092898>>really hope the anti-game spammer doesn't shit talk creators into not doing this like he did with duke>went back and forth about wanting to include MM8DM in the new graph>the straw that broke his back was talking about NERF, led by MegaSphere, who had contributed to MM8You'd have really go out of your way to put yourself in the same spot that Duke-it-anon did, and even then ignoring/reporting/having a thicker skin will prevail as it has the past few threads. Hot Potato's been trucking along without a lot of issues, too.
>>12092875>AhoyUsually really good, even if he misses the odd bit of information here and there.>>12092907>tirades are done better by guys like RossRoss has always come off as way more genuine than most of them, like he'd be looking at games anyway just to see what they were like even if he weren't making videos on them.
>>12091786Used to like his older videos. Sometimes I'll watch in case some retro-styled game might catch my interest, otherwise I'm not sure I really vibe with him or whatever he has to say on how this or that skinwalker company behaves. As others put it, he doesn't really bring anything new to the table.
>>12091786I can find him generally entertaining, but he's not the funniest guy ever or anything, and I take a lot of his opinions about games with some salt.Sometimes it's nice seeing the old classics dug up for the kids, and some of them actually try them out, even liking them sometimes, so I think it can be worth it.
>>12092907>I guess he's like an American YahtzeeThere used to be a dude called Tweed who did this, had some useful as fuck videos on stuff like System Shock and Darklands, shame his entire channel vanished.
>>12092921We know his mo really well at this point. He has a track record of being against anything new and against games in general. He used to spaz out when people would discuss non-doom games in this general. Megaman is just his latest thing which he doesn't even not like, it's literally just an excuse to create drama and fuck with people
>>12092786Raven also used these two flats as grass surrogates
>>12092941Why didn't they just draw some grass? Are they stupid?
>>12092939We have a good idea of the “mo” of “both sides” based on the past several threads, but the point was that Duke-it-out-anon put himself in a real weird position against the varying perspectives. Again, ignore, report, and toughen up buttercup.
>>12092101Blue nintendo man submission is not locally stored, what should we do Rev? Options:>Remove the download button, leave the link to the official site>Upload both portable versions (which I can't do, size limit) and make an extra buttonhttps://mm8bdm.net/download/mm8bdm-v6b-3.2.1-win64-archive.ziphttps://mm8bdm.net/download/mm8bdm-v6b-3.2.1-win32-archive.zip>Upload installer instead, which of the same size of 180mbhttps://mm8bdm.net/download/mm8bdm-v6b-3.2.1-installer.exe
>>12092947I agree that he's basically a pussy but it doesn't change the fact that the spammer managed to fuck up yet another project
>>12091786I like his vids about shitty games like TekWar, the others are not that interesting, especially his more recent stuff.
>>12092953Continue to report, ignore, and stay strong, and we'll do better.
>>12092949>>Remove the download button, leave the link to the official siteThat one I guess. Consistent with RariDoom, the only other huge file on the site.
>>12092867Okay I'm all fucking in.>Constraint: Playable area MUST fit 2048x2048 box.Does it mean that I can use area outside of that 2048x2048 box for boom conveyors and just various background decorations as long as neither player nor monsters can get there?> .wad containing only the levels, music tracks, and a UMAPINFO lumpDoes it mean that we can have secret levels as well? I can make a secret extra exit if so.t.guywithteacup
>>12092956That and more importantly screenshot his faggotry. So far I've never seen his posts get deleted aside from that time he actually spammed anime and random text in the thread with the updated link.Main thing is to not give up
>>12092607>I'm a little confused why they didn't add expansion content into all this.They've literally said on discord that combining the QuakeC from the expansions and making sure everything works nice together was too much work for them.How that was any different from Quake 2 (which I think has a lot more content in its expansions) I have no idea.
>>12092946>Why didn't they just draw some grass?The funny thing is that they didn't even need to draw it. Raven reused some of their Shadowcaster graphics in Heretic but for some reason not the grass flat.
>>12092969>Does it mean that I can use area outside of that 2048x2048 box for boom conveyors and just various background decorations as long as neither player nor monsters can get there?As long as the player can't get there. If you had something like an Imp on a roof shooting into the map, that would be ok, or a monster held in a box which gets teleported in.>secretsIf you want, sure. Don't know how many levels it would be in the end. Remember, just a little more than 2 weeks.>>12092971Jesus, that looks fucking good. Which one was this, Alkaline? I've yet to play that one.
>>12092989Yeah it's Alkaline. One last screenshot of the space base. I'm liking the music selection too for Alkaline. Lots of custom songs.
>>12092989>Jesus, that looks fucking good. Which one was this, Alkaline? I've yet to play that one.Yep, Alkaline.>Dancing in the Golden Sun by BalGame-play on that map is alright, but nothing special. Aesthetics are fantastic though. This is the main complaint several anons have had recently about some of the 'high quality' recent quake content.
>>12092971Same guy who developed Tears, by the way. It's a great one.I'm also realizing both of my favorite maps in AD and Alkaline are not in the main hub.>>12092978>So far I've never seen his posts get deleted aside from that time he actually spammed anime and random text in the thread with the updated linkThankfully, though, the Pete-hating junkie got btfo at least:>>12062860>>12062896>>Oh, guess what! I was that fat anonymous retard (several of them).>several posts got deleted, including those and the thread itselfHe seemingly got banned and the thread quality improved dramatically for nearly a week.
>>12092985>too much workI would've been fine if just the expansions' enemies were added. The weapons I could understand the (stupid) logic for exclusion since they'd have to come up with ways that Dissolution's alternate munitions would work with Scourge's new weapons, but the new enemies would've been nice to include as well. Praying they come back to amend this and maybe add an alt munition for the shotguns as well.
>>12092992God, it's so beautiful.
Female scientist slaughter!
>>12092998Actually, hold on. I just thought of them in like 5 minutes.>New shotgun ammo: Slugs - Fires a single slug with perfect accuracy, but is not hitscan.>Multi-Proxy Launcher - either A) proxy mines explode into bomblets like the multi-grenade launcher, or B) multi-prox mines release more (non-multi) mines to create small instant minefields.>Plasma Laser Cannon - Becomes the BFG10K from Quake 3 Arena; fire rate is slower, but projectile damage is increased and now deals splash damage.>Plasma Mjolnir - Causes a bolt of lightning to strike in front of Ranger, electrocuting an area in front of him for several seconds on the ground, similar to Thunder Wool in MM8BDM.
Best Alkaline levels:>Derelict Freighter>Pipework-Powered Pillars>North Central Positronics>Caustic Preserve
>>12093012Respectable but Dismal Signal Reforged is my favorite. For AD, it's Leptis Magna.
>>12092994Yeah, the newer Quake mappers make 10/10 levels aesthetically, but in terms of gameplay? Meh.
>>12093012>>Pipework-Powered PillarsThat final fight can fuck off. Its like the mapper just finished playing the first Doom Eternal DLC and thought he could make an obnoxious fight too.
>>12093035Filtered me the first time but not the second, though it was just barely, and this was on skill 3 so I was asking for trouble. Realizing things like having to go clockwise with the platforms, realizing I don't need to grab the quad immediately, this was fun having things "click". Warpspasm still gave me a much harder time and was much more rude about it.
I kinda like that one anons idea of playing an Alkaline map after a Arcane Dimensions map and vice versa. Gives me a break from Focus and lets me appreciate the dark atmosphere again after tech base heaven.
>>12093035I like it. It forces you to pay attention to the movement of the platforms as you're taking out enemies. Gotta multitask.
holy shit you cant beat death unless you have a cross in this, way too hard
>>12092992I should play Alkaline again now I have a non-potato that can actually run Alkaline. That map in particular chugged on Quakespasm.I just had the urge to play Rubicon Rumble again after beating DotM and since Alkaline is a prettier version of RR (with weaker fights, I mean it is a modern Quake map) it's a good place to go next.
>>12093046Keeps things fresh, and I find the quality of gameplay very comparable between both. I'm torn between calling it "Arcane Alkaline" or "Alkaline Dimensions".
>>12093035I'm not a fan of it either. Choosing when you need the quad is cool I guess but way too many enemies to dodge and positioning feels a bit on the lucky side. Only part of Alkaline that I had to savescum.
does anyone know the name of a doom wad that is a prequel or something, to realms of the haunting? i cannot remember the name of it
>>12093102no i think it was killing time instead of realms of the haunting, maybe?
>>12093102Might've been one of Impie's wads.
>>12092978>with the updated link.And once again, the thread that that happened in did not have that link. You've been told this at least two other times.>>12092997You are talking to the guy who got banned.
>>12093053>that can actually run Alkaline.*Oh, that can actually run Ironwail.My potato could naturally run Alkaline it was just choppy and slow on some maps because Quakespasm.
>>12093113>>12093123https://mikestoybox.net/doom-maps/
>>12093143thanks man i found it, also wtf? hope its not shit
>>12093152What do you mean "wtf"? Impie has fuckton of solid wads. DW never recovered from how good he is
>>12093161i played doom and wads for a long time but i dont know much of the fandom
>>12093123That sounds like something he would do.>>12093161Stray Dog or whatever it was called felt a bit too retarded for me, and I say that as someone who shares a lot of his politics.
What is the most impressive mod that works within limits of original doom engine?Are there modern modders who work within those limits?
>>12093192https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzZfg7KkzAM
>>12093192Gee, that's quite the question. Batman Doom is still lauded as one of the big landmarks for how creative and comprehensive it was with its DeHacked usage, and that one is fucking 26 years old now. One of its authors did level design for Bioshock, by the way, and later remade one of his levels from there as a Doom 2 level, just for the fun of it.A more recent one was like a Vanilla limits demake of Ghoul's Forest 3, which honestly looks better than the original Ghoul's Forest 3, and is just one little quirk/limit away from being perfect.There was also Knee-Deep In Knee-Deep In ZDoom, which was Knee-Deep In ZDoom demade in a similar manner, and that one's also very fucking impressive.
>>12093192>What is the most impressive mod that works within limits of original doom engine?The one that was done using that ACE exploit discovered a few years back probably wins by default.
>>12092960>RariDoomForgot about that one. Hopefully anon won't claim he's being bullied if I do that.Outside of youtube thumbnails it was very decent submission, truly I expected worse. Pitiful that it got rating bombed.
>>12092892>He uploads so infrequently but when he does it's a surefire hit.Yeah. Interested to see how his Molyneux series will continue.>>12092907>He's still one of the few youtubers I'll watch though, because the alternative are annoyingThat was part of a rational for me too. Until I realized I could just stick to Ross and Ahoy.>>12092985>How that was any different from Quake 2 (which I think has a lot more content in its expansions) I have no idea.You partially answered it yourself. It was too difficult for them. Another part of it is they probably weren't motivated enough one way or another (passion or money; probably both).
Any interesting, surprising or spooky maps come out lately?I like trying to get maps with a spooky vibe played in October.Didn't know if there was anything interesting which has come out since Myhouse.wad
>>12092997>Thankfully, though, the Pete-hating junkie got btfo at least:That IS him. And that's nice to hear.>>12093125>And once again, the thread that that happened in did not have that link. You've been told this at least two other times.And here's the spammer we've been talking about. First thread had the old link but the picture of v9. Then the next thread had the new link and also got shitposted the fuck out of. >You are talking to the guy who got banned.Actually you are the guy we were talking about. Can't leave the thread in peace I see
>>12093352>First thread had the old link but the picture of v9Yeah, and that's the one that got spammed that you mentioned here.>spammed anime and random text in the thread with the updated linkFucking idiot.And these were you, I'm not the one who got banned.>>12062860>>12062896
>>12092867Okay I begun.Here some progress.t.guywithteacup
>>12093364Don't engage.
>>12092017there it is
>>12093445>"Wallhumping all by yourself, handsome?"
Its Sunday Night Shitshow time! To days program includes Machete and Hard-doom.search for "macgu.fun" in doomseeker
>>12091843There is no point in repeating easy sections that you know how to do only to die again on the final fight 30+ minutes in. Just play with saves and practice the hard stuff before recording a no save demo or whatever. Blind and no save is a meme and a waste of time unless you're playing trivial maps.
>>12093510>Blind and no save is a meme and a waste of time unless you're playing trivial maps.This, goes double for blind 100% no save.
>>12093192Aliens TC and it came out in 1994.
>>12091786He's way more skilled at FPS than most of the people in this shithole or the retro FPS community in general and is really the only reputable classsic FPS historian documenting the genre.
>>12093517Yeah, blind 100% nosaves attempts will never not be dumb to me. Many maps, even including some iwad ones, are simply too complex for that to be reasonably feasible without running around like a headless chicken towards the end, which can sour an otherwise fun map.Its why I refuse to have map totals on the hud, unless I'm replaying a wad and already know the layouts well enough.
>>12093540>skilled>reputable classic FPS historian
>>12091843The biggest rule of thumb for me: I start saving when I no longer enjoy repeating the content. Sometimes dying over and over again can be fun as you figure out more routes, more ways to progress, and more ways to tackle the content.>>12093125>You are talking to the guy who got banned.Yeah, was getting suspicious and then that 'updated link' mention happened.
>>12093540you can't be skilled and a reputable classic FPS historian when you're a singleplayer fag. no better than rock paper shotgun
>>12093540I will now hate civvie for this post, instead of you.
>>12093540Hes a fat cuck who got butthurt when people made fun of him for wearing a stupid fuckin colander or noodle strainer or whatever that was with wires taped to it on his head in his earlier videos which is why he stopped showing his face.
>>12093583doesn't he still spam the jpeg of his face with the retard helmet on in every video lol
>>12093583Weird, I usually see people on 4chan put people on blast for showing their face on the internet, here it's the opposite.
>>12093271Eraser is kinda spooky, you might like it. I also have a kinda survival horror map in the works that will come out soon.
>>12093585No he stopped doing it a while ago because he said people were stalking him and his wife (his editor Katie)
>>12093586Shut up CV.
>>12093591isn't katie literally just him. i thought she wasn't real.
>>12093593His editor is his actual wife Katie (K8E or whatever the character is in the show is referred to)
>>12093597no fucking way i don't believe you. NO WAY
>>12093592Wrong person, Anon. I'm just pointing out the fickle nature of dorks who lurk here.
>>12093601even cv has a foid what's your excuse nonnie
>>12093601Yeah, it's not a secret. You didn't know that?
>>12093603GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE
Alright you guys are getting too gay and gossipy. Start talking about Doom WADs you've been playing recently.
>>12093608I'm replaying blood because I never found all the secrets
>>12093603>>12093601>>12093597She is likely extremely fat and/or not a biological woman
>>12093615>extremely fatso they're made for each other <3
>>12093558>Its why I refuse to have map totals on the hud, unless I'm replaying a wad and already know the layouts well enough.Yeah obsessing over those is one of the ways people screw their own experience over, even with having them on the automap you often see people spending a ton of time bringing that up instead of just playing the game.
>>12093608playing blood because I never played it past first episode
>>12093608Just started a project to use the assets and weapons of TekWar (tweaked, cleaned up and expanded) in Strife to create the 2.5D Cyberpunk FPS RPG the world deserved.
>>12093632godspeed
Are you able to transfer a palette from a wad into a GZDoom gameplay mod?
>>12093638depends, if everything in the wad is palleted then you can just copy the playpal.
>>12093608A few:>Lonesome RoadVery solid wad with interesting layouts, tecturing and some really clever fights. Lots of Dehacked trickery.>A.L.T.Some spooky maps, some weird maps, very dreamlike in parts. One of my favorite WADs.>Tea Stains on my DeskNice Crumpets-inspired map. Just ten minutes, good for a little dose of Doom.
>>12093540>He's way more skilled at FPS than most of the people in this shithole or the retro FPS community in general and is really the only reputable classsic FPS historian documenting the genre.
>>12093615Bro you're not even a biological male.
>>12093608Doom wads? This is build engine thread buddy
>>12093664I'll allow it.
>>12093608Replaying Rubicon Rumble after a couple of years. Considering everything is brown and rusty these are still great maps. Shame about the silly walking post box mechs, I never could take them or their tiny legs seriously.
>>12093669>those flagsDamn, the British Union of Fascists is in this mod?
>>12093663Oh yeah? Show me proofs. Show me his cock.
Been playing Postal 2 again for the first time since about 2019. Such a good game, man. I've been messing around in the multiplayer a bit with bots, sucks that gamespy servers are long gone and you can only get a game going over direct IP. Postal mp was a blast back in the day.
>>12093706what?
>>12093703https://333networks.com/instructions/postal2
>>12090162What Lies Beneath
I'm beginning to develop a tolerance to Focus if not a slight enjoyment. Just blew threw 4 levels of Arcane Dimensions. Is this how it begins? Will I too make 2 hour map place it in a hud level next to others & see they all picked Focus and then go 'oh yes quite right - a good bit of Focus by our Spiritual Liege Trent Reznor will surely do the trick'.I liked this little puzzle.
>>12093721Fuckin noice, thanks. Is this decently active at all? I'd be happy if I could get a game going on a friday or saturday night, even if it was just the same pool of 10-20 dudes all the time.
>>12093734i have no idea, if there was a community i'd assume it'd be listed on openspy too
>>12093732Pick 'Life', the song you hear when going against Chthon, and it'll truly grind my gears.
>>12093674Earlier today on /v/ someone thought they were a Big Bang Theory reference. Generic evil flag is generic.
>>12093482GGs and Take it easy good thing i didnt fall a sleep this sunday like last week heh
>>12093805>>12093482GGsCOMMENCE BEATDOWN
>>12093703>gamespyso many good PC shooters lost since those servers shut down. there are usually niche communities but it's never the same. usually just 1-2 options run by some iron fisted tranny with a bunch of mods and extraneous shit enabled and a bunch of goons that eat it up. man i miss the old days.
>>12093805>>12093809nice to actually play doom for a change innit
>>12093796
yep today is a good day to fish
>>12093907Oh cool they aren't hostile so long as you don't attack them.
>>12093868Renegade, Postal 2 MP and Halo CE were the stuff of legends circa 2004.
>>12093907I'll be tackling the level tomorrow, most likely. I plan on saving Tears for the end, all the other hub maps are taken care of.
>>12093932If that's a book, how the fuck are they supposed to read it when they don't have eyes?
>>12093932I liked that setup for the fight. Made for a much improved Chthon fight.
>>12093936>tfw he thinks vision is granted by physical eyeballs and eyeballs aren't just a limitation imposed by a material world presided over by a false god who's trying to prevent us from seeing the truthngmi
>>12093942>Shamblers posting on /vr/ right now.Cope harder, woolly fatass.
>>12093936Maybe they're hungry and are about to eat it.>>12093941I'm often fine with him being a vehicle "setpiece" for other encounters.
>>12093948>woollybut enough about ranger's anus
>>12093954Why was that the first thing to come to your mind, Anon?
>>12093972because i am ranger.
>>12093948
I remember when this place used to be making shit cool shit left and right, now half the discussion is about infographics, youtubers, and transexuals. What the fuck happened?
>>12091786marbled mouth loser who was a big force in making retro fps the grifty dogshit scene it is today. Admittedly his obsessive fans and backers are worse than him most of the time. Also he cannot beat Serious Sam on Serious as admitted by him in his video, thus his takes should not be taken seriously.
>>12094000Burnout combined with a bunch of obsessives being drawn to the thread to fight with other obsessives.
>>12094000>>12094015>megafaggot is back from his time outsigh
>>12093608I played that SCAMP mapset for Chasm yesterday. Pretty good except for the second Egyptian level where a critical door wouldn't open.
>>12091676now i'm trying to use the example acs spawn script from the zdoom wiki, but on kinsie's test map it spawns an arachnotron regardless of the classname
>>12093930Halo Custom Edition was my first 'real' multiplayer game. Simpler times were had on hugeass
Started playing the original Medal of Honor to supplement Quake II and damn are these controls a fucking pain. If I could describe it, it almost feels like a pseudo-rail shooter what with the way your player character moves (and especially) turns.
>>12094124medal of jew sucks, yes
>>12094126I wouldn't say it sucks because I am still having fun in spite of the controls, but it's definitely dated.
Just need 1 final tome to get the Rune and then I'm done with Foggy Bogbottom. Is it gonna be related to the one switch where you hear a door opening but it doesn't tell you where it is.
>>12094141Ah finally found it. I had an idea of where it was but I finally checked the elevator with the secret Red Armor at the bottom and noticed the moss wall finally. Never found the purple key and I'm missing 10 secrets of 25 with only 5 enemies left. Tempted to end the map now tho cause I want to start another map.
>makes mancubuses and arachnotrons impossible to predict>get them them the first time you see mancubuses and arachnotrons>you dieWhat did American and Sandy mean by this?
>>12094127The one with MoH Underground is the only one from that gen I've played.MoH Frontline was p good though.
>>12094201>The one withwhoops.
>>12094191It probably wasn't that well communicated what it did, people are still quite confused about it's effect.It might've also worked a bit more like the Shadowsphere for a time.
>>12094191https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTqrocSF3c8 they didn't mean anything. both versions were made in 15 minutes
>>12094191and by "impossible to predict" I meant "incapable of missing". Even The code doesnt explain how it works.
>>12094191I could see it being equal parts what >>12094207 said, or Sandy/American not strafing as much and therefore actually having a lower chance of being hit by projectile enemies.
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/12021809/#q12022015Finally got to playing this map. It's pretty good, the progression is straightforward and secrets are fair. Only 50 minutes in I can't raise the bridge because he used boom trigger for it and I thought the map was limit removing.Other than that I feel doom-fatigued lately so I guess I'll quit it for a week. Will try playing Q1, this Alkaline mapset seems nice.
>>12094191Do blurspheres stop boner missiles from tracking you? I've never noticed
>>12094557No, it adds a randomish horizontal offset to the aim of them but that doesn't do shit for stuff homing in on you,
>>12093923If you kill them they come back as ghosts to carry out their fishing in peace. The first time I saw this I felt really bad.
>>12092992What does this chip thingy do?
>>12094591It's a 17cm Fromitz Board
>>12094591FROMITZ!
>>12089518
>>12094000We're currently doing Sub Mortem as we're wrapping up Hot Potato, so I would say that we're getting out of the lurch.
>>12092786Strife lacks one as well, it only has a dirt flat with tiny green specks peppered on it. Also the top of the hedge bush, but that's leaves, not grass.
>>12094609>that's leaves, not grass.Well you know, what is a blade of grass but a leaf?
>>12094191The Blursphere can be either a blessing or a curse. For a hitscan heavy map like Refueling Base or Stronghold, it's actually super useful because it genuinely DOES make zombies have a harder time hitting you, and are more likely to hit each other instead.For solid projectiles though it's not so great, and for Mancubodes and Cybies it's kind of agony.
>>12094124I remember binding the controls to mkb on emulator and having fun in OG MoH. Menus were a pain and IIRC I had to change in game control scheme for everything to work, but it actually made the game playable for me.
Anyone got tips for making sector machinery in Doom? Kinda stumped beyond the usual block homestly.
Name ONE (1) ZDoom (or its derivatives) total conversion that isn't Ashes, Total Chaos or Blade of Agony.
>>12094772Golden Souls 2 and 3, Simon's Destiny.
>>12094124It was made with PS1 gamepad in mind, what did you expect?>it almost feels like a pseudo-rail shooterYou can aim with a separate button, and that aiming mode is a straight rail-shooter. Actually very comfy. Reminds me of Operation Flashpoint.
>>12094772Mohrta
>>12094782>furfaggotry
Would it be good idea to make Jazz music randomizer for a mod like Omerta?
>>12094786She dies in the first stage, if it's any consolation.
These walking trash bins are hilariousBtw can I make vkQuake or any other port not restart music after loading a save?
>>12094815
>>12093994>>12094832Kek. All we're missing is a Wolfenstein version.
>>12094815I like the way they kick their legs about when they fall over. Alkaline/Rubicon is a good time in general, like an alternate universe Quake 2.
Do any classic shooters do underwater enemies particularly well? It feels like in most of them they just exist to keep you from surfacing for air a bit longer than you would otherwise.
>>12094772Pirate Doom
>>12094854cultists in Blood
>>12094839B.J kneeling on a Mutant's neck. Or the other way around, even.
>>12094871What about him about to curbstomp a mutant biting the curb, using BJ's jumping sprite?
>>12094772Hedon is cool
>>12094772Reelism 1 and 2
>>12094772Supplice and Chex Quest 3
>>12091786I remember when mentioning him here was a bannable offense
>>12094772Hocus Doom
>>12092875>JarektheGamingDragonI used to like him until I found his twitter>>12093540Just because he isn't a complete scrub like Gmanlives doesn't mean he is skiled
>>12094815Floyd is loveFloyd is lifefun fact: they're from Super Metroid
Has anyone actually played Alien Trilogy on PC? It seems almost everyone played the PS1 version and to lesser extent Saturn.Are there any decent source ports for the game?I just beat the game on Playstation yesterday and the third chapter was way harder than the first 2, there were also a few instances where you could get soft locked, once you know what to do it's not that hard but for the first time the levels can be quite confusing.Also some aliens take way too much ammo to kill and the flamethrower runs out of ammo really fast.I'm not sure if I wanna try resurrection because everyone says that game is unfairly hard even on easy difficulty.
>>12094907>I used to like him until I found his twitterI don't use social media, so the idea of suddenly hating a content creator for their behavior on such sites is alien and weird to me.
>>12094915Well thankfully he keeps politics out of his videos but I really stopped watching him once he started using his dragon persona in his videos
>>12094905>>12094896>>12094887>12094886>12094865>12094774>only the most normalfag tier suggestions (besides simons destiny) instead of actually something coolI thought you guys were supposed to be enthusiasts, not giganormalfags?
>>12094917How about Mega Man 8-Bit Deathmatch?
>>12094920
>>12094772whats that futa orc game?
>>12094925>>12094886This one.
>>12094931yeah did not see the post
>>12094935No worries, happy to help. I think the dev has tried saying that her futaness is non-canon for what it’s worth (which is not much).
what did you guys think of the annyversary update? is serious sam even posted here?
>>12094948I was so annoyed with Hedon>Like tough musclegirls>Oh fuck, a retro throwback FPS about them!>The dev clearly intends them to be futas with fucking massive cocks because it's all he comms of the characters>HUH!? O-OH! NO! NO, THEY AREN'T FUTA AT ALL I SWEAR! IGNORE ALL THE ART OF THEM!Yeah, right. And the Citadel guy isn't into guro.
>>12094964Serious Sam has been getting a lot of disrespect lately by people who parrot others opinions and say the game is just S+M1
>>12094964I tried to get into this, but it's just wave based arena fights with lots of kiting.Funnily enough, I played Dwell for Quake recently and they used Serious Sam enemies, and they also managed to make the mod mostly wave based arena fights, so it's like these things have a curse they carry with them.
>>12094964I like Serious Sam, but I can't play SS2 because it always gives me a headache whenever I try.
>>12094974>That picKek, I get the reference.You could do it with a revenant too, come to think of it.
>>12094124The "secret" levels in MoH 2 are fantastic
>>12094124I used to play it on my Playstation. It would have been super easy if not for the shit controls.
>>12094191Personally I just made it as powerup for one character akin to TF2 Spy's cloak and replaced the sphere itself with something more useful.
>>12094964>is serious sam even posted here?There used to be some weekly coop events. I don’t think any wad or mod I’ve played has had more fun “huge enemy count” arena fights than the Sam games.SS2 was the first one I got into, ironically, and it was through Gametap.>>12094969That can be a big part of it, but not as important as properly dispatching them. Nearly any enemy that can run after you also outruns you, very unlike Doom, Quake, and the Build games.
>>12094124You can set the controls to a moore modern style in the settings so the game still plays fairly well unlike most other PS1 FPS games, I think it's 3rd or 4th optionIt actually had modern style controls before Alien Resurrection
>>12094772Treasure Tech Land, coming Soon™
>>12094772That one where I fucked your mom.
>>12095005>Nearly any enemy that can run after you also outruns you, very unlike Doom, Quake, and the Build games.This is why I enjoy Serious Sam. You have to engage every enemy at some point. It's a big balancing act that really makes you feel like a one man army in the end. There's a constant push and pull to fights where you gain ground causing enemies to spawn before you fall back so you can dispatch the horde. It sounds like it would get boring constantly repeating that but the game spices things up by throwing high value targets in the mix, forcing you to change your tactics on the fly and adapt.
>>12094964>Enemy health multiplier on Serious difficulty changed from 1.25 1.0.This changelog note sealed the deal for me. Finally I'm gonna finish SS2 on Serious, barely touched the difficulty before because of that dumb HP multiplier.What do you think about dual weapon and sprint gameplay modifiers?IMO sprint is good the way it's handled here, that is you can only speed up forward running. I mean it's not omni-directional unlike say Doom, which would be bad because several things in Sam depend on player being slow. There is sprint in SS3 & SS4, but it took away your ability to fire weapons which sucks. For whatever reason they ditched that in 2, it was the right thing to do. This encourages more aggressive playstyle.Dual weapons is straight up OP though. Also it's a little finicky with Uzis and Revolvers. I'm thinking of switching these off, thankfully game allows to do so mid-game.
How does Painkiller differ in gameplay from Serious Sam besides the cards?
>>12095051Weapons are neat if a bit showy, general gameplay is more monotonous.
>>12095051painkiller is more braindead and more serious (heh), i say that as someone that likes painkiller
>>12092867keep working on that map dude
>>12095101Interesting texture usage there.
>>12095029The sheer enemy count AND enemy variety can be a complete joy. A lot of the boss fights are simple good fun, too.>>12095035I think "shoot and sprint" is an upgrade you can grab in 4. I should replay it and its expansion sometime, but it's looking like I'm going to go back to SS2 sometime soon here.>>12095051In gameplay it differs based on what was talked above about the movement. There's a fun bunnyhop that lets you cruise around fights but the bad guys can't keep up with you. The weapon combinations are fun if seemingly arbitrary at times, and there's a good Painkiller GZDoom mod that's worth trying out.A bigger difference regarding Painkiller and Sam are the level and enemy themes.
Blood is fucking amazing. Just beat E2M3 and holy shit what a masterpiece. Actually jumped from that ghost in the secret pathway.btw what do tomes do? open the secret mission exit when you collect all of them?
>>12095109>and there's a good Painkiller GZDoom mod that's worth trying out.Painslayer's one of the better ways to get a Painkiller experience, even if the cards are pretty busted since you can just focus hard on getting the 666 ammo one.
>>12095105Thanks. Sadly Ad Mortem assets are poorly organised. I have no idea how to find something I need. 2.5k textures, take a guess what is what.
>>12095101Looks D64esque, I like it.>>12095116The tomes would open up a secret exit in the level you find them, yes. I don't think they're used anywhere else in the game, at least not anywhere else in the base game (haven't played the expansions).
>>12095128I know, that's part of why I didn't want to try to add anything extra to it, because I have no idea what else Vaeros might add onto it for whatever final build is intended.
>here's a nice Halloween map>no, you can't have it on this Halloween yetAAAAAAAAAA
>>12094605>evasive responsesThey are deliberately avoiding describing their dev strategy and attempting to obfuscate it by making it sound more nuanced than need be.Based on those logs, they are just cherry-picking fragments of code from the original game into fresh supply, and probably doing minimal manual testing to check there is nothing obviously broken.It would be preferable for them to write a proper test suite on the game state, based on expected values dumped from the original game, and write whatever shitty new code they want to pass that.Who is this Bundle85 faggot?>It seems to be a semantic difference by what Kaiser meant by "from scratch"versus what "from scratch" actually means
>>12095116I never really got into Blood, but I have a hard time getting into Build Engine games as is.
>>12095128The flowy liquid sky used to show the reflection of flowing water from below is kinda clever actually. What if you put a brick texture there, and then layered the animated texture over (1 map unit in front of it), and used translucency on that?
>>12095149damn, looks cool, sauce?
>>12095178Golden Souls 3
>>12095167Oh wait, that wouldn't quite work for this space.
>>12095149damn that looks fun
>>12095160>They are deliberately avoiding describing their dev strategy and attempting to obfuscate it by making it sound more nuanced than need be.I won't say so. For once, Edward gave a good answer that does line up with Hendricks observations he described on Doomworld.>they are just cherry-picking fragments of code from the original game into fresh supplyIn other words, it literally is just an overhaul of Fresh Supply. People that are okay with Refreshed Supply (from what I understand) are this way because they think it's fully new port of the game done from ground up with source code as its foundation.That's impression you get from explanations and remarks from Kaiser and other Nightdive developers. This slip up by Edward and Hendricks expert opinion instead reveal the truth that it's actually Fresh Supply 2.0. A patch people hoped that "nu-Atari didn't allow them to make".>Who is this Bundle85 faggot?"Software & Netcode Engineer at Nightdive Studios". With a reputation for being obnoxiously tense and straight-up antagonist towards people.Also, it's embarrassing how Kaiser immediately went into "I'm getting bullied in middle school" mode to a point where a fucking Discord moderator speaks for him like overprotective mother for his child.
>>12095007Thanks for the tip. The standard controls were starting to drive me insane.
>>12095163it's not the build of the engine, it's what you do with it ;)
>>12095149Now that's a nice Halloween looking map.
>get to a new level>there are more than ~70 enemies>feel overwhelmed, don't wanna playanybody else?
>>12095250I think it's the reliance on crouching a lot. It throws me off.
>>12095253hm, I don't remember needing to crouch that much aside from as an aid in shoot outs. But jumping on enemies heads and over them is fun af if wacky
>>12095252I wouldn’t know, that’s a sourceport feature I disable so I only run into that for Q1 and Q2 maps.
>>12094901Why? Is he that hated here?
>>12094772Abysm series. Strange Aeons and most of Impie's works. Inquisitor series. Rekkr.
>>12095310
>>12095167>>12095221I tried to another way and make brick texture transclucent, but:1. Brick texture is too hard, you can barely see reflections behind.2. Both Woof! and UDB start spazing out and give me rendering glitches. Not fun.
>>12094969it is though
>>12095320I meant like overlaying the animated texture as an animated one, not making the bricks translucent, but the top of the animated texture is that tortured soul sky, which you can't exactly cut off.That kind of thing would be a real rough visual hack though. The best way to make that kind of visual would be to plain make custom versions of the brick textures with water shimmer on them, which would require a fair bit of small fine tuning due to palette limitations.
>>12094964still not on gog so idc
>>12095302He used to cause more of a stir, yeah. Still kind of does.>>12095310>RekkrIsn't that only ZDoom/GZDoom through Steam?
>>12095314Why does Romero hate Rekkr?
>>12095339Rekkr made him his bitch.
>>12095252Sometimes, I find it's best to limit the number of levels you play a day to avoid burnout.
>>12095360I find my limit with maps with ~90+ enemies is pretty much 2 per evening and that's with me saving after every mini encounter
btw there's STILL ammo scarcity in E2 of blood despite what I'd been told. You lied to me
>>12095337There are several on steam outside of Rekkr - like Hedon mentioned above. I didn't list most of Scumhead's other titles since I thought their map design needed some serious work. I heard Scythe 2 was much improved in comparison to the rest. Action Doom 2 was another total conversion meant to be more like a brawler. And Venturous which is basically an Indiana Jones Total Conversion. Hellshots Golf too was a thing.I don't know how the hell I forgot Selaco exists till now - but yeah that's GZDoom and it's frankly the best of the GZDoom releases on steam gameplay wise and one of the absolute best GZ Doom TCs period alongside Ashes. It's kind of better gameplay wise than Ashes but I do much prefer the worldbuilding/lore of Ashes and Hedon more than Selaco.
>>12095252I only ever check monster counts if I'm doing a run for a thread challenge. But also, 70 monsters for one level isn't that much, I'm pretty sure that KDITD has levels with that many (and more) monsters.I suppose it depends on how it's used though, 70 Barons in one level would be basically misery without the BFG9000.
>>12095364The opinion of that gets varied based on difficulty (more enemies, higher health), secrets found, and random weapon drop chance. Which setting are you starting it on?>>12095365>Selaco Haven't checked that out since a few months back, should see how it plays now and it played pretty good back then.
>>1209536750-70 is a classic short and sweet, but 90 and much more is already getting to be a lot
>>12095370the UV equivalent one. And it feels just right btw with constant saving like I always do
>>12095374I'd say the scarcity is only slightly better in E2 while the encounters aren't as blatantly evil, but yeah it can still be strict on ammo throughout.
>>12095365>Hellshots Golf too was a thing.Shame Term never got to finish it.
>>12095370Selaco is excellent in terms of moment to moment gunplay. I finally sat down and played the whole first campaign and found every secret. Took me nearly 20 hours. Just a lot of fun to be had for a first episode.They keep updating AMC Squad. It just got a second patch for Episode 5 yesterday.
>>12095379What happened?
>>12095401He was getting sexually harassed and the people in the position to help stop it instead tried to gaslight him over it, he eventually quit the community and everything he was working on, including the second course of maps and the hellshots for Hellshots Golf.
>somehow accidentally got on nightmare difficulty in quake on the last chapter>you can only go up to 50 healthfuck man, i can't go back i dont have early saves
>>12095425>you can only go up to 50 healthIs that a Kex thing?
>>12095432im on the remaster so yeah
>>12095432Yeah, an idea that first popped up in Copper. In exchange there's no more "nightmare quick" enemy behavior but >>12095425 will be in for a bumpy ride with those spawns.
>>12089223[10-1] ALIZARIN [RC1] ~ Avant-Garde Monochromatic Megawad (36 Maps / MBF21) releasedhttps://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/155368-alizarin-rc1-~-avant-garde-monochromatic-megawad-36-maps-mbf21/
>>12094815There's sometimes messages in Alkaline like "East lift access is available". How do I know where East is?
>>12095473I really wish there was a map in Quake sometimes. They don't even have a wiki with maps to look at.
>>12095486I usually don't mind when it's a crazy fun map with lots of weird stuff to see, but I always spend way too much time in Fogbottom trying to find those tomes.
>>12090431>>12090731I've mirrored this on my web server and on archive.org. I've got more stuff on both which may be of interest so feel free to take a look around.https://files.xvertigox.com/vertigo-archival/so-you-want-to-play-some-Retro-FPS/https://archive.org/details/so-you-want-to-play-some-retro-fps
I feel kinda dumb but when is it useful to use the single barrel fire of the shotgun in blood? I always just spam both barrels at the same time.
>>12095494Yeah that map is a pain to navigate if you want to find everything. Maybe you could add a basic compass to Quake as a simple solution so I could at least know which way I am going.
>>12095498Shooting two separate enemies in rapid succession I guess.
>>12095498When you know that double shot would be excessive. On some edge cases double single shot also can put cultists in their hurt state (they don't shoot after being injured for a while)
>>12095494I love Fogbottom but also slightly hate it. It's gorgeous as fuck and with great gameplay, but it's a daunting fucking task to take it on, you need to make plans for the evening for this kind of level because of how big and sprawling it is.
