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These are the best 90s consoles and what truly separates the 90s from modern gaming because it was the end of retro gaming. Ps1, Saturn, and N64 were all mostly shit because early 3D doesn't hold up. LARPing zoomers just love it for "late 90s/y2k aesthetic" nostalgia trend and because it's not hard difficulty like actual retro games like Shinobi and Contra, and tank controls aren't challenging just trash and FF7 was way gayer than FF6, SOTN ruined Castlevania, Mario 64 is a joke compared to the 2D games, so on so forth no existing franchises got better only worse
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>>12102020
If you ever compare anything from the late 80s-early 90s it's better than it's equivalent from the late 90s-early 00s, just fact of life
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>>12102020
Nah.

Racing games - much better on the 5th gen consoles.
Fighting games - much better on the 5th gen consoles.
Strategy games - much better on the 5th gen consoles.
First person shooters - much better on the 5th gen consoles.
Horror games - much better on the 5th gen consoles.
SHMUPs - much better on the 5th gen consoles.

I'd only put 4th gen platformers, beat em ups and run n guns above 5th gen stuff. RPGs and sports games are a tie.
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PS1 is the '90s king. Genesis can claim the '80s since it came out that decade.
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sega system
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>>12102020
>early 3d le bad
The most zoomer take ever.
>not hard difficulty like Shinobi
lmao Shinobi is a joke compared to Little Ralph, pretty sure Shinobi X is harder than 3 too.
>FF7 was way gayer than FF6
All jarpigs are gay, but at least the ps1 had more interesting ones Vagrant Story, Parasyte Eve, Moon etc.
>SOTN ruined Castlevania
No, 3's shitty routes and 4 did. SoTN was a fine spin to a series that never got better nor different after the first game.
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>>12102020
PS1 sold more than Genesis and SNES combined sales.
Your biased, contrarian, stubborn, retrograde opinion means absolutely nothing
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>>12102020
Hard disagree. Modern gaming as we know it seemed to largely take from the 6th gen but especially mostly with the 7th console gen. The way I see it is 6th gen was these devs learning from the experimental 5th gen era and really learning what was clicking and what wasn't. What genres were selling or would be good and which wouldn't. But you still had quite a bit of jank even this gen. 7th gen though they largely learned all the control issues and camera problems so you mostly saw this finally fixed although the industry got way too corporate and shitty with this gen towards the end. It was already getting bad even mid gen with so many games feeling incomplete or even downright ripping you off like with those online passes just to play multiplayer. So you couldn't buy used.

I get where you are coming from if you are a 2D only enjoyer. But I think the earliest 3D games absolutely should be counted. The day 7th gen (Xbox 360 and PS3) is allowed on here due to age forcing this concept of what is "retro" is the day I probably am truly done with this board.
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>>12102094
Ps2 owned the shitty Ps1. You are little faggot
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*Insert PC chad laughing at you eternally bickering losers post here.*
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>>12102270
shut the fuck up
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>>12102020
This isn't even that good a of a troll.

>Shinobi
This is garbage. Shinobi 3 especially is outright ass water. It's a borderline movie game with pointlessly clunky mechanics that are mostly useless and the main source of any difficulty and tons of timewasting set scrolling sequences. Like holy shit I'm amazed people try to pretend this is any good, but not really because SEGA diehards have to be hipsters like this. It's peak "game that would impress a dumb ten year old because ZOMG surfboardninjas!"

Even if you only cared about 2D games, the PS1 has a better collection of them than any previous console had.
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>>12102273
No.
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>>12102275
ps1 2d games are fucking gay dude
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>>12102020
>early 3D doesn't hold up.

I dislike early 3D but I can't agree with this. I think it's as good as it ever was, which is to say that it always kinda sucked. Some of the games were and are good and some of them weren't and aren't, but almost all of them looked ugly and still do.
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Zoomers are mad they missed good culture

PS1 = Limp Bizkit, bad, but zoomers pretend it was good so they can say the era they missed out on but were born in was amazing, bizarre
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>>12103836
I DID IT ALL FOR THE NOOKIE
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>>12102020
I find it nuts for any real Sega enthusiast though. Imagine trying to even buy a Genesis, 32X, Sega CD, Sega Saturn, Sega Dreamcast.

All Nintendies had to do was buy a SNES or N64.

I know Nintendo leaned hard on handhelds too though but that's kind of like side baiting the point.

I like both sides a lot but I find the hardware race to be insane after the fact. I really only knew SNES, Genesis, PSX, N64 growing up.

I guess it's nuts when you realize all of those Sega platforms existed.
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>>12102256
If you're that faggot that kept praising Steam slop the other day, then begone to /v/ you fucking tourist.

2D had more soul, even though I love N64 to my core.
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>>12102270
PC is cool, but once influenced the other.

You wouldn't have Commander Keen without Super Mario Bros. 3
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>>12103852
Yes, PC absorbs all things, accepts all things, influences all things.
Except Macfags, those guys are fucked.
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>>12102275
What kind of faggot hates Shinobi 3?

Goddamn, what a loser take
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>>12103836
True. I feel so bad for all these bitches having to be influenced by a goddamn Chinese social media platform.

All I did when I was a kid was play games, or go outside and play street hockey or basketball or bike around.

Grim.
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>>12103858
Alright but name me a good PC controller from that era lmao?

You can't.
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>>12102020
Mega drive is ace but the snes was shite, wouldnt even rank it above the vita to be honest
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>>12102267
The PS2 also isn't a 90's console, pushing it outside the scope of this thread.
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>>12102267
the PS2's success is directly tied to the popularity and goodwill raised by the PS1
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>>12103871
I used a Sidewinder back in the day. Worked fine.
lmao, you lose.
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>>12103929
That controller sucks ass
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>>12103861
Yeah
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>>12102020
Consoles were always trash. The best action games of the 80s and 90s were arcade games and the best strategy games and rpgs were on PC.
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>>12104542
Shining Force 1+2 were pretty top tier tac-strat-rpgs. Starflight on genesis is still the best looking version imho.

Dungeon Master on SNES was actually the best way to play Dungeon Master at one point (just wish it had SNES mouse support).

They also both sounded a lot better for the most part. Sound cards were not standard equipment yet so a lot of PC games in that era ran off of PC Iinternal speakers.

It was also much MUCH more affordable to console game back then. Nowadays you're kidding yourself if you think console gaming is a better value proposition. It seems cheaper but only because they're straight up ripping the ignorant off on 10 year old tech prices.

Not defending modern consoles at all but SNES and Genesis with their dedicated hardware were very good, even better at times than a PC.
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>>12102076
>80s
Genesis
>90s
Psx
>00s
Ps2
>10s
Xbox 360
>20s
Ps4/ps5 I guess, most games are cross gen now, the few that remain.
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>>12104870
Genesis came out in 1989, saying it's an 80s console is like saying Slipknot is 90s because they came out in 1999, aka wrong

The 80s is defined by the 8 bit
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>>12104939
Ok

Master system, then
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>>12102020
>>12103836
This is the DeathMetal poster who rants about "Zoomers nostalgic for limp bizkit Y2K tekken 3" and "Final Fantasy 7 turned rpgs emo", he always makes similar kinds of posts
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>>12102020
>early 3D doesn't hold up
Neither does modern 3d. Most 3d games are technological showcases. Novelty.
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>>12102062
FPWP. Are you the same schizo who went on an unprompted tangent about everything made after 1992 being soulless in a random PSX vs N64 console war thread recently?
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>>12106612
Uh no. But it's true, name one medium that didn't get shittier by the late 90s
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>>12104542
Bullshit. PC rpgs are nerd shit text based crap and arcade "action games" are just beat em ups, and the only thing better about arcade ones was how they looked
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>>12107730
You're talking out of your ass, also it's past your bedtime.
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>>12102020
>d-do I fit in yet guise? I really need validation.
Nice.



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