Why haven't you started a disassembly or decompilation of your favorite game, anon?
I don't wear programmer socks
I'm a straight white male.
I don’t have an estrogen prescription.
Because i have no clue where to get started. It sounds like a cool hobby
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>>12112437we have nothing in common
>>12112437It's a 6th gen game with no debug symbols leak so idk seems daunting
>>12112437I'm afraid of annoying Mike Singeletons departed soul because I'm so grateful to him for writing that game.
>>12112469Usually I start by mapping out data in the ROM with a hex editor. Look for text first, either with an ASCII search or a relative search if the game doesn't use ASCII. Then do a hex search for numeric data like stats, levels, item prices, whatever. Switch to a graphics editor and look for blocks of uncompressed graphics. That's the low-hanging fruit, after writing down all those offsets I would pull out an emulator with debugger and start looking for code and RAM.
>>12112469It's like making a code index, definitely not for guys that don't care but great for games you care about. I don't understand why caring excludes guys, but I suppose that's a statement from guys that don't care so never mind they/them.
All my favorite games got decompiled long ago.
>>12112437I have too much skill, intelligence, self respect. My breath doesn't smell like cum.
>>12112437I did. It's currently completely playable on modern windows, mac, and linux with all features working except network multiplayer. https://github.com/FatalDecomp/ROLLER
>>12112437too busy making hacks without the use of a disassembly.a debugger is enough
>>12112437I came to understanding that it's a waste of time. At the end of the day very few people care and you can't make money on it. So instead of decompiling everything for years I'm just lifting the good bits for my own game.
>>12115681Fair enough but hey, don't monetize all your hobbies
>>12112437Can't someone else do it?
>>12116407Personally my other hobbies all cost a lot of money so having one that was free was kinda nice. Also learning how to decompile made software fun again for me instead of just being work that I want to be as far away from as possible in my free time. It was exciting to learn all the inner workings of a game I liked as a kid and very gratifying every time I could mark another function as decompiled in Ida Pro. Only ~15 autists from the car board on a mongolian basketweaving forum caring about it is part of what motivated me. I figured I was probably the only person in the world who had both the technical skill and the interest in the game so if it was ever getting a decomp it would be me or nobody.
>>12112437The only game I'd be interested in decompiling is Halo 1. There are a few things that theoretically make the process easier:>most function names aren't obscured>In 2004, Bungie released their own in-house tools they made the game with so people could make mods/custom maps, so we know a great already about how the game worksBut there's two main obstacles. First is that nobody would give a fuck because MCC already exists and is the definitive way to play Halo 1. Moreover, do you decompile the Xbox version, or the PC version? If you choose the PC version, you're inheriting the Gearbox bugs. If you choose the Xbox version, porting is going to suck because you're dealing with pixel shaders and GPU code more generally built for a custom GPU that is kind of DirectX 8 but not really.
>>12112437I like being male and having a penis, I don't want to cut it off and pretend to be a girl.
>>12112437It isn't fucked to the point that a decomp is necessary to play it for an average person, and it's got a (bad) remake recently that makes it accessible for an average consolefag. So I disasm/decomp only the functions relevant to my mods (asm hacks) which are just a bit too large to be implementented as cheats.
>>12113362Thats pretty cool anon
>>12116407Historically in the 80s and 90s it used to be about making moneyHere Lemmings/GTA guy talks about borrowing routines from other gameshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8NL9Yb-zMwAnd here Microprose guy talks about reversing Genesis dev systemhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF8jHy307DINo pay public service angle is a recent thing
>>12112437I don’t know how. But if I did, it’d be Tekken 4
>>12112437Somebody else already made onehttps://www.romhacking.net/documents/858/
>>12112478ThisAlso I’m too dumb
>>12118548Argonaut guy talks about reversing NES and GB systemshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysxrJdsS7zw
>>12112437I did. It doesn't take much to start a disassembly. Finishing it is another thing.
>>12113126Really? I'd probably start by scanning the memory to try and identify where all the key values were stored, score, health, player position, etc.
>>12113126>>12121540I was lucky, an exe was released with debug symbols included. Didn't have function params like the dethrace guys but I did have all the function names, global names, and file structure. I believe I could manage without symbols knowing what I know now after having learned how to do this but I probably would not have attempted it in the first place without them. If I was doing it again on something without symbols the first thing I'd do is load the exe up in Ida Pro, then get an LLM to guess what all the functions do and give them reasonable names. LLMs are not good at writing C but they are very good at immediately recognizing what an algorithm is for and giving an overview of what it's probably for.I am not sure if I could decomp a game that was not originally written in C though. C++ or God forbid anything higher level probably gets real fucky real quick.
Is there a full list of decompilations/source ports anywhere? There's so many these days it's hard to keep track of them.
>>12112437Let's say I wanted to start from ground zero with no programming experience. What should I learn to do this?
>>12112437I got like 2/3 through then became a chronic masturbator.
>>12112437Cisgendered and have real world responsibilities.
>>12121730You find and read shit like this but for your systemhttps://feuniverse.us/t/gbafe-assembly-for-dummies-by-dummies/3563
>>12112437I'm not autistic so it's impossible
I made a collage of the ones I want. That's more than nothing, right?
>>12112437I don't trust these things. Only a group of heterosexual white men could do the games justice in the process, and unfortunately the only people with the time to take on these endeavors are gay men in dresses, so you can rest assured that any decomp will carry with it a tranny's influence.
>>12121727https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_commercial_video_games_with_available_source_code#Games_with_reconstructed_source_codeNot a full list but somethingNewer games made using high level languages (Unity/Godot/UE3/GameMaker/RPG Maker/Love2D/Clickteam Fusion/Python/Java/Lua/Ruby/C#) you can just auto-decompile with tools available on githubSo those typically don't end up on such lists, it's just given that everyone can decompile them at leisure
>>12121758and yet you post here, so that seems like a stretch
>>12112437if i can't be bothered to learn jap the fuck makes you think i'm gunna decomp some obscure game no one gives a shit about that only i lovesecondly decomping a saturn game sounds like aids
>>12116706>If you choose the Xbox version, porting is going to suck because you're dealing with pixel shaders and GPU code more generally built for a custom GPU that is kind of DirectX 8 but not reallyI always thought Xbox used the modified Windows but original DirectX. So was I wrong all that time?
>>12121826and yet you're posting here. don't worry I'll cut off the crusts
