Why couldn't Sega win a single generation?
>>12119492The flow of time is inexorable.
Who cares
>>12119492They won in the arcade
>SEGA withdraws from console hardware at 6th gen>Video games immediately go to shit right afterWho are the real losers?
>>12119506Home consoles maybe but the PC, DS and PSP are full of 10/10 games
>>12119495It's 88 for the Megadrive Sega lost because casuals will always outnumber gamers
Why don't we have a "Flagrant fanboy thread" report reason like in /v/?
>>12119512Casuals are the guys that like more complex games rather than 1 hour long arcade port stops now?Sega lost because it couldn't adapt to the home console market until it was too late (Dreamcast)
>>12119514We already have enough options that don't get a response
>>12119514How is this a fanboy thread? It's a fact that all the Sega console couldn't become the number one best selling console of its respective generation.Always second place.
>>12119518Why do sales matter to you personally?
wasnt it just the "Sega System"? I read that somewhere.
>>12119519I think sales matter a lot to the companies, I think the Sega, Nintendo, Sony, Etc's goal was to make fucking money.
>>12119507>PSP>10/10 gameslol it was the porn and ps1 emulation machine.
>>12119523are you on the fucking board of directors? ...no? then shut the fuck up
>>12119515No they don't, they like dumbed down mechanics and games where you can't failArcade is the peak of game design,they get better and better with each playthrough which is the exact opposite of modern games that become more and more shallow the more you play
>>12119492Cubies won’t like to hear it, but the Dreamcast spiritually won the 6th gen considering it had to carry itself and the shitcube with its games.
>>12119527Cope, the only objective way to see who won and who lost is to see their sales number.
>>12119523I asked about you, but you tried to change the subject, so I ask you again, why does it matter to you personally?
>>12119532Unless you're the CEO of Sega you shouldn't acknowledge the business aspects.
>>12119532thats purely a cope from whatever fanboys had their preferred brand sell the most units. all that matters for a non retarded actual gamer is what console has the best library.
>>12119537Why?>>12119536Because it's objective.
SEGA won all gens in my heart, and that's the only thing that matters.
>>12119545What console has the best library is completely subjective however, sales are objective. The retard is you.
>>12119528Sounds like you are just too poor to buy new games and are stuck playing the same shitty ones over and over.
>>12119492They made a valiant effort, but no one could beat the TurboGrafx for 4 generations
Sales numbers are a PRIVATE matter that ONLY be discussed among business insiders. It should NEVER be brought up on fan boards like this.
>>12119545...so sega still loses every generation then.
>>12119547Objectivity is an underwhelming and boring reason, there are more useful metrics when playing games than concerning yourself with how many copies a 40 year old game sold at the time.
>>12119530More like the dreamcast and the cube are so shit that not even both combined can sale fuck.
>>12119558If we are trying to see which company won that generation there is no other objective way to see that than sales numbers, dumbass
>>12119556If they are a private matter why can you just go see those numbers on Google or Wikipedia?
>>12119559The sales do no matter. It's just a fact that cubies corrupted Mario, ruined Zelda, turned Metroid into a shitty console FPS, etc. The literal only good games on the cube were F-Zero GX and inferior Dreamcast ports, all made by SEGA
The same people who claim the Genesis was a failure also think the N64 was a smashing success
>>12119524Meanwhile the DS was the
>>12119563You're avoiding the point, sales numbers have zero impact on you right now.
>>12119605>DS was theowner of the best handheld library of all time
>>12119605PS2 of handhelds, as long as you weren't brown/trans.
>>12119507>DS and PSPNot retro
>>12119594>strawman
>>12119649>Pleading to good faith in a shitposting thread
To be fair the mega drive only lost because it didn't have dragon quest and FF, those games basically decide who rules Japan
>>12119492>>12119495
>>12119735Were jrpgs really that important during the 4th gen? I thought it was a very niche genre until FF7
>>12119738i think it was less niche in Japan
>>12119627>>12119634>no Monhunlolno
>>12119738In the west yes, but in Japan they were the best selling games
>>12119492won here
>>12119735Don't forget that Saturn hardware was a complicated and problematic.
>>12119776br here.the whole "omg master system is still popular in Brazil!" is actually a meme. Yes we do have a manufacturer called tectoy who has the license for sega stuff and yes they kept making master systems (as well as mega drive), but master system was never as popular as memes made you believe it was. In actual times when it could have been popular it was vastly overshadowed by famiclones (which can't be calculated in quantities sold for obvious pirate reasons, but believe me, for every kid who had a master, 50 had a famiclone).Master system was mostly the low cost sega console aunts and grandmas would get when kids asked for "the Sega" (meaning the mega drive, which is what kids wanted in the 90s, not the Master)By the late 90s/early 00s, chipped playstations were super affordable thanks to very cheap bootleg games, and K62 computers let everyone play games on PC for cheap also thanks to piracy (and cyber cafes with LAN)Master system was never a real mvp as people were made to believe. Sorry for breaking the illusion of brazil being magical master system land.
>>12119851I have a Brazilian friend whose name is Mastersistinho.
>>12119492Winning isn't everything, the Mega Drive / Genesis ended up in the 2nd place, but the library is close to the SNES, better in some genres even.The Wii "won" its generation in sales, but the library is worse than both X360 and PS3's unless you're a tendie.
>>12119567How are you sure the figures cited on Wikipedia and Google are accurate?
>>12119851Well, we will always have Europe
>>12119634>PS2 of handheldsaka shovelware dumping ground
>>12119735>uhm sweaty, the genesis was actually a failure because it didn't have enough jarpigsimmolate yourself
>>12119998Correct, it didn't have any good games at all
>>12119851shut the fuck
>>12119738Nintendo had hits like Zelda, Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Breath of Fire, Lufia, Ys, Secret of Mana, Chrono Trigger, Tales of Phantasia, Star Ocean and anime RPGs like Dragon Ball, Ranma 1/2, Sailor Moon, Doraemon, Magic Knight Rayearth.Sega had Phantasy Star, Soleil, and Nadia: the secret of the Blue Stone.
>>12119998That's literally the reason why it lost in Japan
>>12120016up
>>12120019>YsAlso on master system and mega drive
>>12120019>Zelda>RPG
>>12120020So much so that Mega Drive users were considered westaboos
>>12120020That was one of the reasons why Nintendo stayed afloat during the 90's while Sony aced it after snatching the Squaresoft franchise away from Nintendo.Pokemon was one of the reasons why Nintendo remained popular, by that point Sega had nothing unique anymore.
>>12120035>action adventure game with RPG elementscalm down
>>12120035It's an action RPG like Secret of Mana, Chrono Trigger and Faxanadu.>>12120028>Also on master system and mega driveI stand corrected.
>>12120042No levels up no RPGIs metroid a rpg too? Because that's closer to Zelda
>>12119506us
>>12120118Noooooooooo but le famitsu
>>12119492you're a larping zoomer if you think the Genesis wasn't close to the SNES in sales. it was the fiercest battle the console wars ever saw.PS1 trounced the next gen, PS2 the gen after that.but the 4th Gen was a tight race.
>>12120019you forgot Lunar, Dark Wizard, Vay, Fatal Layrinth, Japan-only titles like Shadowrun CD, the entire Shining series...
>>12119851Shut up, your anecdotal evidence doesn't mean shit you stupid dumbass>>12119886based
>>12120118Levels don't make a RPG.
>>12119524porn in psp? the heck?
>>12120801>plug psp into computer>drag sexy vids onto memory card>profitthis was before we had smartphones and the screen was massive for a handheld at the time so it was pretty revolutionary
Genesis did well overall, it just happened to sell like shit in Japan which was like, the most important country.
>>12119492i'm a nintenfag and haven't read a single reply but i can tell you>make dozens of games beloved by millionsdoes not a looser make
>>12119753>>12119773Nobody cares about what was popular in Japan.
>>12120665Levels + actual stats growths that matter in the game = rpgTrue you can have a game that has levels but they are completely cosmetic then that's no rpg.
>>12120020>>12120040Uh, no. Super Mario World sold the SNES, and the PS1 having cheaper games, mixed with larger disc space for longer games is what sold the PS1. FF7 was a killer app, but out of the top 15 best selling games on the PS1, only 2 of them were JRPG's.
>>12120807>Japan which was like, the most important countryHow is Japan the most important country? Doing well in the US will sell way more units. For example the PS2 clearly won it's gen in Japan by far, and it still sold twice as many units in the US
>>12120834Yeah, Sega won in NA, and in Europe won by like 2:1. SNES only won in Japan, it is literally a case of "we're big in Japan"
>>12119492Uh they won in 1989.
>>12120847It's gen 4 tard, most killer games were japanese and they still were a huge part of the market. If your console sold like shit in Japan it was harder for developers to care and go against Jewtendo.
>>12120870Nintendo sold like 44 million snes while sega 39 million mega drives
>>12120897They still did what Nintendon't.
>>12119735The MD had Jar Pegs. The problem was that the MD was a machine with inferior hardware to the PC Engine and SFC. That was always the running problem with Sega machines.
>>12120897>>12120939A reminder that demented Wikipedia editors refused to disclose that the processor speed of the Genesis/Mega Drive is faster than the SNES.
>>12119497/thread
>>12120943The performance advantages the Genesis has over the SNES aren't due to clock rate (the SNES can do 8-bit additions just as fast as the Genesis for example), it's because of several other things such as the wider data bus, additional instructions, etc:https://segaretro.org/Sega_Mega_Drive/Hardware_comparison
>>12120968lol the processor of the Genny is way faster and that is a lot to do with it. It means no slow down.
Software >>>>>> HardwareYou are nothing without good games, that's how the Gameboy obliterated the competition despite being an older console without even fucking color.
>>12120939The color inferiority shows but I doubt that was the main reason it sold badly, it's just that Pce already owned the nerdy and arcadey market.
I thought the genesis was briefly in front in certain markets.
>>12120992GB was good hardware though, not going full retarded with graphics meant you didn't need 6 AA batteries to play 30 min
>>12121006Yes, Genesis outsold the SNES in NA and Europe for years. In Europe it was about 2:1 sales over SNES. The all-time totals favor SNES because it crushed in Japan, and because it was kept on the market for longer which bumps the total up more. But in the 90s the Genesis was top in sales outside Japan. (Not that this really matters, I don't know why OP thinks sales numbers are more interesting than games)
>>12121071The Megadrive was outsold everywhere including Europe
>>12119738Proper SNES JRPGs released in PAL regions:>Breath of Fire II>Lufia>Mystic Quest LegendSNES ARPG (with often questionable RPG status) released in PAL regions:>Illusion of Time>Secret of Evermore (Technically not a JRPG)>Secret of Mana>Soul Blazer>TerranigmaThat not a lot. The PS1 era is when JRPGs become a real thing in the west.
>>12119515Sega was the first company to give Nintendo serious competition after they hit the North American market. The Genesis was extremely popular, and Nintendo didn't gain a lead in that generation until Sega started fucking up with the 32X and Saturn. The Genesis may have finished in second place, but it was far from a failure.>>12119738>>12121114I'd argue JRPGs were somewhat mainstream in North America before the PS1. The reason most of them didn't make it to Europe is because there were too many local languages to translate to, and translating/localizing games to English already took a lot of time and resources.
>>12119512The logo says Genesis, not Mega Drive. The Genesis released in the US in 1989.
>>12121103>The Megadrive was outsold everywhere including Europe
>>12120019>YsYou mean the three dogshit ports and one piece-of-shit outsourced game (Mask of the Sun) where Falcom sold the license to some no-name hack studio and let them trash the series' reputation on Nintendo platforms.
Anyway, this would've saved the Saturn.
>>12121225I don't have the same numbers https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Nintendo https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mega_Drive
>>12119851I am also brazilian and I can tell you are full of shit.>which can't be calculated in quantities sold for obvious pirate reasons, but believe meyou just admited that in official figures, sega was the leader until the ps1, which did only became affordable during the 2000s actually.
>>12121140>Nintendo didn't gain a lead in that generation until Sega started fucking up with the 32X and SaturnThe only reason snes outsold the genesis in us was by bribing capcom for sf2 timed exclusivity.
>>12120016this doesn't contradict me. I never said tectoy stopped making them (these new ones suck, btw)>>12121278sure, if you want to talk official, but in terms of reality, Famiclones were just cheaper and had more games. It was the actual popular console, in Brasil and in the rest of South America.As I said by the time Tectoy was selling Master Systems, MD was already out too, which was the actual popular console after the Famiclone.And yes I did say PS1 and K6-2 PCs became affordable during late 90s and early 00s, probably 00s more yes, but upper middle classes could start affording chipped PS1s during 1998 and 99 too.SMS was just the cheap option to Mega Drive.
>>12121286Only official console sales count. Pirated games don't count towards winning a generation
>>12121330I wasn't talking about "winning" like some console warrior from /v/, just giving the insight from someone who was actually there back in the day and knows Famiclone was the actual popular console, with Master System just being the cheap Sega option to the Mega
>>12119492Genesis did what Nintendidn’t for a while
>>12121284SF2 helped early on, but Donkey Kong Country, combined with Sega's incompetence at DKC's time of release, really cemented Nintendo's 4th-gen success.
>>12119492As someone who was a tendy as a kid, I will NOT tolerate this slander of the Genesis, Sega were THE only ones who could match Nintendo in those days. It was a golden time for 16-bit home console gaming.>>12119512Genesis sold extremely well in North America and Europe, both console and software sales. I don't know how you can look at the Genesis itself as a failure, even if you look at the poor sales in Japan, the overseas success cannot be ignored.>>12119738FF7 made it truly explode, but the prior Final Fantasies, Secret Of Mana, Chrono Trigger, etc, those had fairly substantial reception and sales. Consider how Mystic Quest didn't do that well because of how it failed to compare to other more deep and complex RPGs (relatively speaking, anyway).>>12121284Probably, but that's kind of secondary to his point, the Genesis saw extremely good reception and sales. The actual failures primarily come to the massive waste of time and money that is the 32X (a product which was unnecessary and unwanted), which then further hurt the Saturn, which itself was very poorly managed.This is also with Nintendo having made some not very great decisions with the N64, so they both left the market wide open to the Playstation, the difference being that Nintendo could afford to fuck up N64, because they made so much money before, and then Pokémon was a money printing machine.
>>12120020>success>:(>success, japan:O
>>12119515>length = complexityIt's they other way around, jarpigs use length as a way to hide their lack of depth, and you retards bought it because you don't want good games, just idle time wasters
>>12119537sega lost dude, get over it. it's been 30 years
>>12121843nintendofags wont stop bitching about sega til this day, as if eggman fucked peach and wiped his dick in her curtains after it.
>>12121883Wouldn't put it past him.
>>12119492>Why couldn't Sega win a single generation?Not a huge sega fan but you are just incoherent the sega megadrive was better than the snes (both were good, ind fact both were the last good thing either company made) and more loved in that era both were crushed by 16 bit and 286 computers like that Amig and ST wheich is what was really happening in gaming at the time. People who live in millenial hipseter revisionist reddit tribes don't know that
>>12121883Tendies are the most hated people in gaming and the most loathed people on the internet by anyone who is into anything to do with games of digital entertainment now or in the past with no competition. It seems Nintendo marketing has created one of the most toxic fucked up and despised groups of people in history. At first you think they are just trolling and b8ig for (yous) then you realise they are actually just really really fucked in the head.
I wish we had jannies to stomp the endless console war slop.
>>12119506We all lost
>>12121339>I wasn't talking about "winning" like some console warrior from /v/you were tho???just look at your old post>In actual times when it could have been popular it was vastly overshadowed by famiclonesthis is console war talk straight out of /v/, pot meets kettle
>>12121883>>12121918>nintendo out of nowhereNDS is very real
>>12122153ds isn’t retro zoomer.
>>12122170so is ZDS
>>12122153two different anons. yeah anons are generally sick of the tendie bullshit though, fact.
>>12122153>crying about NDS in an SDS threadCome now, you shouldn't out yourself so easily. Pack it up folks, we know who's behind these posts.
>>12122216>n-no u!show us on the doll where mario touched you
>>12122061Popular =/= "official sales figure"
>>12119851>but believe me, for every kid who had a master, 50 had a famiclone).This. I had a Top Game CCE which used to be my uncle's. Then I got an SNES which is what most of my friends had. A few had Mega Drives. I've never seen anyone who owned a Master System IRL, I've only ever seen them being sold at stores.
>>12122264Didn't Nintendo get caught publishing inflated sales figures at some point?
>>12122474he's just gonna keep moving the goal post every time
>>12122493Nuh uh, not if it aligns with the point I'm making
>>12119492I won. I had fun.
>>12121273Those SNES numbers are Nintendo's official numbers, but this:>EUR : 8,58 millionsIs mislabeled, those 8,58 million are not "EUR", but "Other" (which includes Europe and a few other regions).We don't have SEGA's official data, but it's not far off from that number either, estimates put the Mega Drive at around ~9 million units in Europe.>>12121918>Tendies are the most hated people in gaming and the most loathed people on the internet by anyone who is into anything to do with games of digital entertainment now or in the past with no competition. It seems Nintendo marketing has created one of the most toxic fucked up and despised groups of people in history.That's true, they're the most deranged people on /v/, despite blaming the "snoys" for ruining that board.>>12122153>NDS is very realIt is very real, but it's not retro (2004) though.
>the only dating game I gave a shit about>developers promise 4th entry would have been mindblowing>dreamcast got axed due to shit sales>aforementioned game suffers huge cuts and is in fact the shortest of the saga>franchise migrates to PS2>the first and only game there is some tranny pandering half-assed thing set in burgerland>everyone hates it>franchise goes full limbo>MUH SOFT REBOOT ON PS4>everyone hates it again>franchise dies for goodWell, it was nice while it lasted, I guess
>>12119634People bought a DS to play games.People bought a PS2 to watch movies
>>12123949>pretending the MGS2 demo alone didn't move 3 million PS2s by itself
>>12123556The SNES and Megadrive were the last good thing either company made. yet here we are.
>>12119919Euro here.the whole "omg master system is still popular in Europe!" is actually a meme. Yes we do have a manufacturer called Sega who has the license for sega stuff and yes they kept making master systems (as well as mega drive), but master system was never as popular as memes made you believe it was. In actual times when it could have been popular it was vastly overshadowed by the ZX Spectrum(which can't be calculated in quantities sold for obvious reasons, but believe me, for every kid who had a master, 50 had a ZX Spectrum).Master system was mostly the low cost sega console aunts and grandmas would get when kids asked for "the Sega" (meaning the mega drive, which is what kids wanted in the 90s, not the Master)By the late 90s/early 00s, chipped playstations were super affordable thanks to very cheap bootleg games, and K62 computers let everyone play games on PC for cheap also thanks to piracy (and cyber cafes with LAN)Master system was never a real mvp as people were made to believe. Sorry for breaking the illusion of Europe being magical master system land.
>>12123949People bought a DS for their kids to reduce having to interact with them on weekend visits. They bought a PS2 for themselves because it ran their PS1 library and was kick ass. Sorry about your parents divorce. Mario is your subsitute father and you love him very very much. We know. Shush now, it is all in the past. Move on.
>>12123949>>12123992I bought both to play games, you're both pathetic console warriors and probably poor.
>>12123949Mario says if you put a dress on it will make you feel better about daddy being gone litte princess peach. Hold that crappy handheld tightly now and it will all be fine. Or maybe not.
>>12123995(you)
>>12123992>People bought a DS for their kids to reduce having to interact with them on weekend visitsI bought a DS for myself when I was 15
>>12124001>sobbing sounds.
>>12119974>s-shovelware says the coping cubie and PSPoofag with his no games
>>12119530Cube + Dreamcast couldn't even beat the XBox, Sega might have died a a console developer in that gen, but Nintendo got slapped so hard that gen that they had to concede and basically stopped competing with Sony and Microsoft, going their own way with the Wii and focus on handhelds.
>>12124003What are you crying for?
>>12124006Anyone who has aherence to a current day corporate brand because it tried to implant marketing in their skulls as minors is effectively lobotomised when it comes to any objectivity of knowledge of retro games or the industry.
>>12123998How can I be a tendie if I bought a ps2, psp and even a fucking Vita? The other Anon is right, Nintendo Derangement Syndrome is real.
>>12124007New here? Having trouble understanding green text. Here's a nice wram cup of don't give a fuck to help you and your new daddy Mario get over your parents divorce and the fact you were stuck with a shitty handheld as a teen.
>>12124015Green text can be used for quoting, but none of the words in your post were from my postAre you ok, Anon? You seem confused
>>12124006>Cube + Dreamcast couldn't even beat the XBoxdoes it really matter when both relied on Dreamcast ports and sequels?
>>12124030The cube, the box and the dreamcast could have all fused into one single machine and they still couldn't have beat the ps2
Master system won in Brazil
>>12124050Being the cheap alternative to Mega Drive isn't "winning"
>>12119492Mega Drive beat SNES in Europe, SNES was propped up by Americans being turbo tendies. Saturn beat N64 in Japan, N64 was propped up by Americans being turbo tendies
>>12124074,based, fuck tendies! kiddie
>>12123949>People bought a DS to play gamesPictured here
>>12124074Okay? Global sales matter more
>>12121146But they use the Japanese Saturn logo, and the Master System (not the Mark III) came out in 1986.
Genesis could've won if Japan liked it. Saturn could've won if anyone outside Japan liked it. Dreamcast was a flop everywhere.
>>12119492>Master SystemCouldn't catch up to the NES's head start, especially in Japan where it was preceeded by the SG-1000 which was effectively a glorified ColecoVision clone with outdated graphics compared to the Famicom, and it had limited third-party support in comparison. It still outsold the Atari 7800 and exploited a niche to become successful throughout South America and parts of Europe for what that's worth.>Genesis/Mega DriveWas only outsold by a small margin since Sega compromised their momentum later in the generation by coming out with the 32X and dividing the install base even more after the Sega CD was only moderately successful.>SaturnBotched launch, more expensive than PS1, etc. etc.>DreamcastWas doing great but not great enough to undo Sega's fuckups during the Saturn generation which dug a deep hole they were never gonna crawl out of.
>>12120303Numbers don't lie, unlike Sega fans
>>12119735>"no sonic">he doesn't know
>>12124156
>>12124162
business nerds
>>12124152they sure don't.lol
>>12124156>the shitty isometric game nobody liked and the dev tried to apologize for by releasing a "fixed" version 25 years later>>12124162>the worst controlling racer of all time>>12124164>a collection of Genesis games that was released because Sonic Team kept getting letters from Japanese kids asking who the character in their logo was.wow
>>12124198
>>12124226>"See, I TOLD you there was bread on this sandwich!" he said, while taking a giant bite out of a runny turd stuck in between two slices of bread.
>>12124236>food analogyget the fuck out of here
>>12124238>sports analogyget the fuck out of here
>>12124243"Moving the goalposts" is what the logical fallacy is called. It's not a sports analogy.
>>12124251and "eating shit" is what you're doing, when you point to your three examples and screech>SEE?!?!
>>12124236Why is it always scat with you faggots?
>>12124252What are you talking about?The argument was that there were no Sonic games on the Saturn, when in fact there were three.
>>12124256why are you asking me how come you love the taste of shit so much?
the fact they survived as long as they did and beat out the massive amount of competition at the time to become one of the big two, then big three console giants is impressive regardless of the fact they were always 2nd/3rd place, but then if you consider that they were still in the arcade business after leaving the home hardware space, the fuckers were really impressive and meant more to videogames as a whole than any of the babysitter-boxes.
>>12124259two bad ones and a collection of prior games.
>>12124272That's still three Sonic games on the Saturn, despite your opinion of their quality.
>>12124274>"See? There's technically bread here." as the shit dribbles down your chin.
>>12121114This. Read European nintendo magazine from that era. Nintendo in that era just said "just one JRPG per year" and the selected:lufiaillusion of timesecret of evermoreterranigmaThey screwed themselves. Check letters magazines.
>>12119627Well duh, it has backwards compatibility with the GBA.
>>12124303Evermore was good enough the Square American studio should have been given the chance to make another game.
>>12120841>True you can have a game that has levels but they are completely cosmetic then that's no rpg.The oposite is also true, where stats and abilities can be ugraded/unlocked by finding an item instead of gaining xp.
>>12121330>Pirated games don't count towards winning a generationYes they do, wether you played a pirated copy or an official one is irrelevant to the popularity of a game and word of mouth.
>>12123990kek
>>12120843Look at the best selling games on the Japanese market
>>12124102Okay, but none of that is relevant to the release date of the Sega Genesis, which is different from the release date of the Sega Mega Drive. That's the only thing I commented on.
>>12124156inferior port>>12124162game that no one played nor asked for. the start of sonic team saying "fuck dem keedz" and doing whatever they want instead of making a game.>>12124164lmao
>>12124628>sonic teamTraveller's Tales made R though
>>12123927Why do you never see an actual in-game screenshot of this series? Everyone, even magazines of the time, always just post random art.
>>12119492Actually the Genesis was a winner and so is the Master System, thanks to TecToy, it continues to sell in Brazil!
>>12124260people like different things and you're crying about it
Sega won both the 16-bit era comprehensively. Counting bootlegs and clones, which were widely available since the early 90's worldwide for the Mega Drive, but not available for the SNES until recently, the Mega Drive's international sales must have been massively ahead of the SNES, and that is to say nothing of the countless compilations for PC and various consoles which have also sold millions of units and continued to spread the Mega Drive's influence. It also won in our hearts, as there are far more people who are enthusiastic fans of the Mega Drive today, and comparatively few SNES fans who aren't simply Nintendo dickriders. This can be seen on this board as well, where Mega Drive threads gain a lot of traction, oftentimes even for more obscure games, versus SNES threads which typically rot away after only a handful of posts, with nobody ever talking about the games outside of the tendie IP's that they would discuss regardless of platform. The SNES is basically an outdated relic from history, and the Mega Drive is the living and breathing embodiment of the 16-bit era.
>>12125414No but you tried
>>12125414Dunno about third worlders and their clones but there are way more people that appreciate the snes now than those that appreciate the genesis.Probably just Earthbound mogs every single genesis game on terms of appreciation.
>>12125471I feel like Earthbound, while certainly good, is massively overrated, and this post does nothing to help that impression.
>>12125251can't speak for those magazines but I'm pretty sure nobody on this board actually played any of it, except maybe some guy from /m/ , since it has (cute little) robots
>>12119492>Sega SystemGot raped by the NES in NA and Japan. Console markets in Europe and SA weren't big enough to make up the difference.>GenesisNo Japanese appeal. Its biggest games were Sonic, sportsball, and arcade ports, which evidently weren't enough to maintain interest for long. Failed add-ons made Sega look desperate and retarded.>SaturnNo Western appeal. A bunch of games stayed in Japan. Surprise launch in NA. Biggest games are all arcade games you beat in 30 minutes. Tranny clown instead of Sonic.>DreamcastReputation ruined from previous failures. Shit controller. Raped by the PS2.
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>>12125601It's rated just right. I mean you just need to look at what Genesis heads overrated -- genuine fucking trash like Golden Axe 1 and 2. I loathe those games, especially when GA3 mogs them.
>>12126140Golden Axe 3 would have mogged them if so many enemies didn't frequently and randomly block and shit on the pacing of the game
>>12125251Because it's a date sim
>>12119805It was made for homosexuals. Same with Dreamcast, its sign is an anus, quite literally. SEGA fell due to bad deals between gay corporate men.
>>12126184>its sign is an anus, quite literallyIf your anus is shaped like a swirl you need to see a doctor
