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Been playing this for the first time in over 15 years and it's so much better than Thousand Year Door it isn't even funny. The areas are bigger and there isn't nearly as much tedious back and forth. The pacing is perfect, chapters are the exact right length and end just before you start getting bored too. TTYD has better theming and dialogue but everything else is worse. TTYD also just completely retreads on a bunch of shit from this game too, the opening couple hours are literally identical.

IDK bros I think this game black pilled me on TTYD.
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>>12120326
>so much better than Thousand Year Door
low bar
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>>12120326
>but everything else is worse
even 64 fags will admit TTYD has a (much) better battle system at the very least.
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TTYD64 hack>>>ttyd>>>pm64
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>>12120326
PM64>TTYD is one of /vr/‘s gayer contrarianisms
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>>12120326
>TTYD also just completely retreads on a bunch of shit from this game too, the opening couple hours are literally identical.
what the fuck is that supposed to mean
>>12120510
fuck off with your bullshit
>>12120592
and now we got the fucking gay expert over here
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>>12120628
>what the fuck is that supposed to mean
Start game with Goomba partner, go to Koopa Town located in generic green foresty environment, go to a castle for first dungeon, etc. The island chapter too is pretty similar to another one in TTYD too except its a pirates cave instead of a volcano. The difference is the pacing is way better in 64 and it did this stuff first.
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ttyd:
>better combat
>better partners
>better story
>better side content
>better badges
>less restrictions
>more field abilities
>better last boss/final dungeon
>has a postgame
you lost faggot. only place 64 wins is graphics and artstyle.
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>>12120510
I wouldn't say its all that much better? It has the counter attack timed hit and like what else even? HP on the partners? Thats about it, it doesn't change much at all. The audience doesn't really add anything except some visual flair and the occasional item to dodge with a button press.
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>>12120742
stylish moves, superguards, partners who can use items, have health, and can take the front row, better partner abilities, crowd interactions, no badge restrictions, a dungeon that will actually make you utilize the battle system.

you lost, this isnt even a debate
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>>12120735
uhh sorry BUT ttyd paces itself so shittily that none of its improvements even matter. pm64 wins on it by a shitslide.
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Only a broke moron would say that shit. TTYD fags kill and rape OP.
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>>12120731
you're really gonna diss my boi Glitzville like that
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>>12120735
deaf nigga in the thread, forgot to mention muunzak i see. ttyd has a lot of really good songs but i'd give it to 64 overall there.
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>>12120326
I think PM64 is better than TTYD on paper (no pun intended) but is much more of a slog to actually play in practice. Either way, SMRPG is miles ahead of both so it doesn't matter
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>>12120889
eh theyre pretty equal for me thats why I didnt mention it
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>>12120891
I found smrpg the sloggiest of the three easily.
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Im actually playing pm64 for the first time right now after finishing TTYD a few days ago, which I thought was a 10/10. just got my third star and about to go through the shy guy box.

its a ton of fun and Im really enjoying it so far but Id be pretty surprised if it tops TTYD. I miss having partner health and being able to swap them front and back. I didnt even know about stylish moves and never used superguards so thats whatever. but really the setting and story just seem a lot more basic, though still charming. TTYD started out basic but everything from chapter 5 onward (aside from general white backtracking sesh which was obviously shit) just blew me away with sheer LUDO and the post game/100 pit trial gave me a lot of playtime even after the ending. what a great fucking game, especially the second half. even the first half wasnt bad, glitz pit was awesome as hell.

I DO like pm64s visual style and level design more though. the stages and dungeons just flow really well, a lot of TTYD was walking along straight lines. the koopa fortress, desert temple and klubbas castle were all really really fun to explore. but theres still some really good dungeons in ttyd too like pirate cave, x-nauts hideout or shadow palace.
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>>12120981
pm64 has a few tricks up its sleave as you progress.
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am I the only person who likes SSS the most
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>>12120326
I agree, ttyd is incredibly tedious, even if some of the concepts are kino (the wrestling chapter is a good example). The first Paper Mario is just typical rpg tedium.
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>>12120768
I will take a game that actually respects my time and is well paced over literally all of that but also like most of the shit you listed doesn't even matter lol.
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>>12121406
>most of the shit you listed doesn't even matter lol.
Bro you're so fucking wrong it's incredible. You've clearly been shown as having no idea what you're talking about. I prefer 64 over TTYD but TTYD objectively has a better and more complex battle system
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>>12120993
What does that stand for?
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>>12123273
Super Star Saga
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>>12120993
We probably shouldn't get caught up in this fight SSS-sister. Just stick to our comfy threads and let these attract the contractions and shit posters.
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>>12124039
oh that's why i didn't recognize the term, it's a different series
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>>12120781
based and op btfo pilled



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