>hmmm I recognize all of these people on my squad as kids I grew up with in the orphanage and also our mission is to kill our caretaker which is all extremely weird and suspicious but no one is acknowledging any of that so I guess Ill just never mention it even after I get the yips and cant take the shot for that precise reason

If the story of FF8 wants to be taken seriously then I hope the love interest dies, and if FF9 doesn't have voice acting I'm going to kill myself.

>>12121124
>he still thinks ffix demake is happening
its vaporware and thank god for that

>>12121097
>>12121117
>>12121124
>>12121125
You guys are dumb faggots. FF8 is the only game that is remotely good in that shit series and is as close to art as you can get. SaGa and FF8 are literally the only JRPGs that matter and you're over here mocking the latter

R=U

>>12121117
>guys, using GFs gives us amnesia, just an FYI if you forgot
>but let's keep using it anyway

>>12121357
Heh, this would never happen in real life.
>*lights up a cig*
>*drinks beer*

>>12121097
Literal worst FF and one of the worst RPGs ever made, and that's saying something. Now, I know following 7 was a huge ask, but what were they thinking with this piece of shit? At least we got Parasite Eve out of this experiment, a vastly superior game.

>>12121170
>>12121378
The duality of man

>>12121117
You skimmed through half of the dialogue in the game. You have to read carefully.
>>12121170
This. It's not even that confusing, but maybe I'm just built different from watching psychological thrillers for the past 30 years. If you can't think for yourself and need every plot point spoon fed to you, I can see why they wouldn't like it.
>>12121357
>I know we're trying to save the world, but it's kind of inconvenient innit?
>>12121378
>Worst FF
Not even close lol. You haven't played the entire series. Even if you hate the story, the Junction system is one of the best things Square has ever done.

Your enjoyment of FF8 is directly correlated with your ability to tune into Lynch works

>>12121170
>SaGa
>good
lol, lmao

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>>12121097
Boutta go 100% this absolute gem on retro achievements just to make the brainlets seethe.

>>12121378
>Literal worst FF
that's the only one you've played. I won't read your rebuttal.

>>12121117
>but no one is acknowledging any of that
Wasn't that the reason Irvine DIDN'T want to shoot her? Because he was the only one who DID remember Edea as their caretaker in orphanage while others had GF amnesia.

>>12121489
>>12121587
This. He clearly hasn't played 9 or 15.

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>>12121373
In my experience, most humans just have horrific fucking memories, and everyone blames some substance or another, even though most sober retards can't fucking remember two weeks ago, let alone their own childhoods. Most normies are just goldfish-tier organisms.

>>12121378
>but what were they thinking with this piece of shit?
There's a lot of discourse about FF8, but everything wrong with it is easily explained by looking at the facts. The game was incredibly ambitious, and was originally intended to span two generations of characters. The idea was you started off as Laguna/Ward/Kiros, and eventually transitioned to Squall & Co. to finish what they began. But Square overestimated themselves and simply didn't have the manpower to get it done. FF8 was the first time that the core FF development team had been split—half went to work on 8, and the other half on 9.

Ultimately, they ditched the timeskip and repurposed all the Laguna content they had as flashbacks. This is probably also why the "GF memory loss" plot point even exists, because they needed a way to fit the orphanage backstory in out of nowhere. I'd assume, as originally planned, the orphanage scenes would have been where you started playing as Squall after finishing the Laguna chapters.

This shit happened with Xenogears and Chrono Cross, too. Square was just fucking retarded around this era, high off their success with FF7 and basically trying to restructure themselves into a movie company—spending too much money on their art department and not enough on actual game design. It's really not surprising they made a whole ass CGI movie just a couple of years later.

>>12121549
The final stretch of FF5 is the most Lynchian shit in the series

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>>12121684
You could say the same about FF9. The final dungeon really taps into that same energy, where every area is some twisted version of a memory shared by every living thing on the planet. You're seeing all this crazy shit that you've heard about, and nobody has seen, yet everyone remembers.

But yeah, the phantom village in FF5 is really very cool—it was probably really unsettling if you somehow missed finding the actual village on the overworld, then suddenly find yourself going through the frozen image of it in the rift.

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>>12121619
15 was alright until you got on that boat. Afterwards it was a steep waterslide of shit down to the diarrhea pool.

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>>12121097
Just started the game and maybe 20 hours in already, I just got Irvine. Tell me why I'm just now finding out you can get different weapons for people but only if you have the materials you need to make it at the junk shops? I literally got my first new weapon 20 fucking hours in out of nowhere. If you don't have the specific items to make a weapon then it won't even show up in the shop, why is this game retarded like this???

>>12121682
>Most normies are just goldfish-tier organisms.
Go into any FF7 lore discussion thread and you'll see 4channers are no better.

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>>12121724
You can pick up "Weapons Monthly" magazines lying around to get the recipes for weapons. Or if you have the right items it shows up.
You can look it all up online, of course, but this is how the game presents it.

>>12121724
>why is this game retarded like this???
Trying too hard to "fix" turn-based JRPG mechanics that never needed fixing. Doesn't really matter, as your weapon only marginally boosts your attack power—junctions will always be doing the majority of the work. The only one it's important to fully upgrade is Squalls, because his limit breaks are tied to his weapon, and spamming his ultimate limit break is basically the only late-game strategy you need.

>>12121736
>you'll see 4channers are no better.
Most 4channers are just normies who want to say the N-word or openly shit-talk Jews. This place isn't really so special. Honestly, since Musk took over twitter, the level of discourse there is practically identical.

>>12121724
>I literally got my first new weapon 20 fucking hours in out of nowhere.
Yeah, I had a similar experience on my first playthrough. My friend loaned it to me without a manual so I had no idea how the fuck it was supposed to work. I went the entire first disc without ever getting a new weapon.

A moot point, though, because the second disc sucked so hard it made me drop the game a couple of hours in, lol. Problem solved.

>>12121747
Yeah FF8 was a strategy guide bait game

>>12121790
>Yeah FF8 was a strategy guide bait game
While I don't entirely disagree, you get the first Weapons Monthly as a drop from like the second boss in the game. Upon actually reading it, you'll learn how the weapon upgrade system works. Nothing about this requires a guide.

>>12121805
>Nothing about this requires a guide.
You now remember that the Junction system is explained in full at the start of the game yet most normoids consider it unexplained secrets of the universe that make the game almost entirely unapproachable.

>>12121817
This shit annoys me to no end. The Junction system tutorial in FF8 is possibly one of the most comprehensive tutorials in gaming - but like you said, people act like it's some esoteric knowledge.
99% of peoples "problems" with FF8 are a result of them mashing through text.

>Junction GFs
>Set GFs to learn abilities that compliment your playstyle
>Maybe swap all magic between characters out of the party
>Junction Auto-Atk to each character
"Damn that's rough - unplayable."

>>12121597
the point is that it makes 0 sense why irvine doesn't go "guys, don't you care we're about to kill our orphan mommy?" when he cares so much that he can't do it despite caring so much he refuses to do it

>>12121848
There are several plot holes and contrivances in the game, that's one of 'em.

>>12121823
It's confusing cause it's explaining shit you can't even do yet
>oh btw you can junction elements to your weapon
>TRY IT OUT
>try to do it
>you're not on high enough level yet to do wtf Quistis was even talking about
this is why the game is fucking stupid

>>12121908
>oh btw you can junction elements to your weapon
>try to do it
>you're not on high enough level yet to do
You don't need to level up to use the junction system. You can junction any spells you currently have stocked at level 1.

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>>12121097
The more years go by the more I like VIII. It's such a unique setting, with near-futuristic technology compared with VII's 90s dieselpunk and with a rather dark theme of child soldiers and the impact a missing generation has on the world. There's also something unintended in it due to its tumultuous development and how much content was cut, be it in the worldmap (https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/662074252/#q662082438) or in the Laguna flashbacks. It's magical, almost. Like the game managed to break through its intended role as the next multimillion dollar mainline Final Fantasy and deliver at times broken bits of auteur weirdness almost. Nothing describes that best for me than time kompression, with the myriad of savefiles specifically reminding me of SH2's final save room with the 9 red squares:
https://youtu.be/0oH5dksLgv8
Also, *easily* Uematsu's peak as a composer. What a soundtrack.

>>12121919
When she tells you to put sleep on your weapon for the t rex I couldn't even do it even tho i had sleep.

>>12121170
>You guys are dumb faggots. FF8 is the only game that is remotely good in that shit series and is as close to art as you can get.
Makes me sad there are people out there genuinely this stupid, who have degenerated in taste and sense enough to unironically believe this.

Humanity truly is fallen.

>>12121983
You fags cry about how bad 8 is every single time it comes up, but can literally never give a valid complaint.
Meanwhile the thread is always full of people listing what they love about it.

Stop being an unhappy faggot. If you don't like it, fine, but trying to make other people hate it too is straight homo behavior.

VIII>>>VII>>>X>>VI>>V>>IX>>IV the rest are mid/trash.

>>12121937
>original game was going to be half laguna
thank fucking god this didnt happen, I hate this wholesome chungus reddit fag so much. worst parts of the game easily

>>12121987
>but can literally never give a valid complaint.
Is this a joke? People point out the shitty gameplay, the horrible characters, the rushed love story and the retarded ass plot twist and ending all the time.

>>12121937
I'll never get over how ambitious and gorgeous it is, definitely feels like a game that released way ahead of its time.

>>12122047
>>12122047
>People point out the shitty gameplay
Subjective opinion. The junction system is also touted by many as the best thing they've ever done.
>the horrible characters
Subjective opinion. Squall, Rinoa, Zell, Quistis, Seifer, and Selphie are all great characters. The only one that really fell short with their writing is Irvine.
>the rushed love story
It's a 50+ hour game and the love story begins within the first hour.
>and the retarded ass plot twist and ending all the time.
They're all literal retards. It's not confusing. I understood it as a fucking 10 year old.
The final ending scene is up for interpretation, it doesn't need expanded on.

Just because you didn't enjoy something, doesn't mean it's inherently flawed.

>>12122028
...Whatever.

>>12122076
Holy fuck you're actually one of the retarded cultists. Almost all of these are pure delusion on your part.

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>>12122148
>cultists
Jesus Christ dude. Get a grip on reality. It's just a fucking video game, and one that a lot of people love at that.
You're the exact same brand of loser who comes into our Kings Field threads to rant for days on end about why we're wrong for enjoying it.

>>12121823
Yep it's FF7 fans going into a game with more depth than equipping materia.

>>12121597
>go to work
>new guy comes over
>hey anon we grew up in an orphanage together
>everyone else that works here was there too
>the regional manager took care of us
>why don't you remember this

>>12122304
You'd probably start assuming you were the crazy one and just shut up too.

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>rinoa
>great

>>12122076
FF8 haters don't realize the orphanage scene is explained in the ending which shows that Cid purposefully brought them together because that's who he saw in the message they sent back.

>>12122158
The garden rivalry is so forced
>>12122304
Tifa moment
>>12122319
Rinoa is a great magician!

>>12121174
-is canon

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>>12122378
It's not NOT canon...

>>12122386
It is explicitly not canon because the logic of the game itself precludes it's possibility, nevermind that the devs said point blank that Rinoa is not Ultimecia. Brainlets with aphantasia should stick to simple games with simple stories. I'm sorry, but ff8 is simply too advanced for you.

>>12122709
>It is explicitly not canon because the logic of the game itself precludes it's possibility,
No it doesn't. In fact, most of the game's logic alludes to the validity that Rinoa does, in fact, become Ultimecia. Rinoa's female loneliness drives her insane.

So many people claim "no way, no way, it would make her, like, centuries old," but most stories in FF8 revolving around sorceresses indicate that not only are these rare, magical women very aged (despite a youthful appearance), in some cases they may even be incapable of dying unless outright killed by someone else and EVEN THEN they will wander like zombies until they can find someone else to pass their powers on to and they pass away.

Ok, now...explain where Ellone's powers come from. And no, she isn't a sorceress. No, she doesn't have a Guardian Force. No, it isn't drawable magic.
Go.

>>12122284
>Jesus Christ dude.
All your counter arguments are just
>i-it's subjective, SHUT UP!
You're a fucking faggot.

>>12122709
>nevermind that the devs said point blank that Rinoa is not Ultimecia
Nigger why don't you read the quotes posted

>>12122795
Why? Explaining where her powers come from changes nothing about the story. She has them, the method or origin is irrelevant to the plot.

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borderline lynchian

i should play ff9 someday

>>12122886
>tfw you see sony product

>>12122340
so its a circular logic time loop thing just like SeeD? thanks I dont know how I missed that but that actually makes the story a lot better, though I still think its a bit silly irvine just never mentions it despite remembering.

>>12122821
He had a valid counter point, and it's the only point that matters.
A LOT of people love this game.
End of debate.
You don't like it. That's fine. Nobody is trying to force you to like it, so stop sitting here trying to force other people not to like it as well.

Why even come into a thread for a game you hate, just to try and convince people to hate it as well? Actual woman-clique behavior.

>>12122902
its because hes self conscious. he realized no one recognized him which made him feel butthurt and not want to talk about it.

>>12122905
>Why even come into a thread for a game you hate, just to try and convince people to hate it as well?
not sure ive ever read a thread on /vr/ or /v/ without at least one of these people. people are so desperate for (You)s and want everyone to know how unique and better their opinion is.

>>12122896
God damn it kek
>>12122902
Yeah they're essentially stuck in a time loop forever, but unlike other time loop stories part of the loop is that the characters returning home and getting to live their lives after the final battle makes it feel less like a bad ending despite the loop itself never being solved.

>>12122878
Not really. If a human irl had time powers, people relevant to what that person is doing wouldn't just be like "who cares lol," inquiring minds would want to know some details.

>>12122902
ff8 is a 10/10 story but presented in a retarded 5/10 way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWA635zt9nM

every time I start a new save file I always listen to this full intro and get chills knowing Im about to experience the greatest jrpg ever made again.

>>12122931
you can tell they ran out of time and budget and had to cram a ton of important plot shit into exposition dumps towards the end. like all of lagunas actually important activities in esthar being completely off screen or whatever the fuck the junction machine ellone shit was about.

R=U
Squall=Dead
R+L=J
Jews did Trabia Garden

>>12122916
And, irl, how the universe began is something inquiring minds want an answer for, too!
Does not having an answer mean it didn't happen?
Does having an answer mean "people relevant" consider it solved?

Ellone has magical powers of premonition and mind-reading/transfer.
It's stated many, many times in Final Fantasy 8. In fact, it's rare, and she's sought after. They even made a magical machine based on her. It's made by a scientist who looks like a Japanese clown.
It's in a fictional magical fantasy game. The same game that has magic, sorceresses, summoned demons, Tonberrys, flying school academies, a moon that vomits beasts from orbit every-so-often, islands reminiscent of Greece, and movies starring knights fighting dragons.
Ellone has magical powers.
>So? Tell me how!
Do I tell you how Balamb has a T-Rex, too? How it got a tree in its courtyard?
Ellone has magical powers.

>>12122946
A human with time and mind powers is the kind of deliberate story choice that deserves an explanation of some kind. The planet having a lifestream doesn't really need an explanation because it's the will and magic blood of a living creature, Jenova being a destroyer from space doesn't need an explanation because space is vast and can have anything in it, Sephiroth being a superhuman even among superhumans gets explained because of course it would and a single random human having time-mind powers deserves an explanation as well. If they didn't go out of their way to say Ellone has nothing to do with witchcraft it wouldn't be such an outlier.

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>>12122973
And Ellone has magical powers because FF8 has a setting filled with all sorts of creatures with magical powers of all kinds of varying powers and abilities. In fact, Ellone's magical powers are very strong, quite rare, and are not just a theme surrounding Laguna's storyline of rescuing her because of her kidnapping, but end up becoming an intricate backbone to the entire plot and how (despite her surprisingly small amount of dialogue) her supporting character is nearly the entire reason Time Kompression is even possible.

>I know.
>So tell me how.
Dude. It's magic. It's explained as magic. She's literally magical. Just like the other magic users in FF8. And 7. And 6. And 9. And 10. And 13. And Tactics. And and and. Ellone has powerful mind magic. The villainess wants to use it.
>Lame.
It's your opinion, man. You can call it a McGuffin, you can call it without basis, you can stress about it all you like, but Ellone having magic is not some sort of unprecedented or bewildering characteristic for the story of Final Fantasy VIII. It fits the setting just as well as a spaceship-that-looks-like-a-rocket-dragon.

>>12122989
Those designs... sovl

>>12122989
>Ellone having magic is not some sort of unprecedented or bewildering characteristic for the story of Final Fantasy VIII
It is considering she's the only one in the world with that sort of magic. If she was some other species it probably wouldn't stand out as much. But whatever, clearly you just do not have any sense of curiosity whatsoever so I'll agree to disagree.

>>12121973
That's because you didn't equip the correct gf that you did have available

>>12121973
>When she tells you to put sleep on your weapon for the t rex I couldn't even do it even tho i had sleep.
You don't have Status Attack junction at that point. You can simply cast Sleep on the T-Rexaur or better yet, cast Blind on it. The T-rexaur at that point doesn't have magic attacks so Blind renders it non-threat and you can hit it physically and limit breaks. The sleep is inferior method because you'd be stuck re-casting the sleep each time it woke up and you couldn't use your physical attacks.

>>12123150
It depends whether the player drew Siren from the Dollet boss. If they didn't, they didn't have St-Attack.

tying abilities to summons was a really comfy and fun system because a new summon meant more than just having some new AOE nuke. and viii also has the best lineup of summons in the series. an underrated aspect of the game i dont see get discussed

>>12121973
Either you didn't have the Siren at the appropriate level to junction status, or you just didn't have Siren at all, since she's missable.

Also, if you're playing the original PS1 version, I noticed there's a fuck-up on the equipment junction screen—the status junction menu is labeled "EL" for elemental, and the elemental junction screen is labeled "ST" for status (picrel). I assume they fixed it in later versions, but it screwed me up when Quistis was giving her lesson.

>>12121919
>You don't need to level up to use the junction system.
Technically correct, yet also wrong. Your CHARACTERS don't need to level up, but GFs do in order to unlock abilities, which includes the various types of junctions. And to level your GFs up, you need AP, which you get from battles, which also give your characters EXP, which levels them up, anyway. Everything in the game still comes down to grinding.

The junction system is JUST complex enough to baffle morons and dazzle midwits, but if you actually stop and think about it, it's pretty fucking stupid. It's like if stat progression were an open world game where you can "dO aNyThInG", but everything is shallow, tedious, and inferior to actual structured gameplay.

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>>12123695
>the status junction menu is labeled "EL" for elemental, and the elemental junction screen is labeled "ST" for status (picrel). I assume they fixed it in later versions, but it screwed me up for a bit after Quistis finished her lesson.
Derpt, forgot pic. Guess I'm more retarded than FF8, which is impressive.

>no qt shiva frozussy GF

>>12123695
>And to level your GFs up, you need AP, which you get from battles, which also give your characters EXP, which levels them up, anyway

False. You can turn enemies into cards with Card command or petrify them. That way you get AP but not EXP. You can also choose which abilities the GF learn in the GF menu.

Siren has Status Attack unlocked from the start

while i understand people avoiding grinding for levels in FF8 it's fine to still gain levels, the enemies level up with you but they get stronger magic and aren't abusing the junction system themselves so you can easily outpace them

>>12123931
It's true. It's more fun that way, too.
Low-lvl run was the least fun I've had with VIII, which is one of my favorite games (if not #1).

>>12123698
That's telling you that the page you switch to will be ST-J, not the one you are on. That's what the arrows indicate.

The window on the right is the one telling you what screen you are currently on.

>>12124087
No, it's an actual error in the game that you just get used to. If you were right there would only be an arrow in one direction.

>>12124087
Agreed, I have tried the meme low level runs after my initial blind play on release and they sucked. No wonder people don't like the game if they're following that shit, it's like people hitting themselves in FF2.

Level 100 is where the game is most fun. Get there as soon as you can, then you never have to hold back for the rest of the game.

>>12124096
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>>12121937
This is my thinking whenever I remember VIII, too. Weird game, unfinished game, but there's something that makes it better than the sum of its parts.

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>>12123931
>>12123948
Yeah, pretty much all the discourse about your level in FF8 is retarded:
>"YOU CAN BEAT THE GAME AT LEVEL ONE!"
So? your stats are still crazy high. Even if your level doesn't go up, you're still increasing your power the way you would by levelling normally in a competent JRPG.
>"YOU DON'T HAVE TO GRIND!"
Except to get spells you need to farm item drops to refine, or waste time drawing every turn. And to unlock abilities, you need to level GFs which requires AP, which requires fighting battles, even if you end it by "carding" the enemy so you get no EXP. It's still grinding, but with extra steps.

>the enemies level up with you but they get stronger magic and aren't abusing the junction system themselves so you can easily outpace them
Basically this. People fearmonger that if you level, the scaling makes the game too hard, or that beating the game at level one is some kind of major accomplishment, but neither is true. That's really the biggest issue with the junction system—pushed to extremes, it makes everything pointless, and when you're using it competently, you ultimately accomplish the same thing that's accomplished in a regular JRPG, just with more tedium and gray menus.

>>12124096
>Level 100 is where the game is most fun. Get there as soon as you can, then you never have to hold back for the rest of the game.
And it still wasn't very hard. It doesn't help that most of the bosses cap their stats once you reach level 60, so really that's the highest you'd need to go. Random encounters are still completely trivial even at 100—you might as well just equip Enc-None and save yourself the trouble, since once you max your stats, there's literally no reason to even bother.

I still enjoyed playing it, but goddamn they missed just about every mark possible, outside of the graphics and music.

>>12124147
They didn't miss anything, you're just a midwit thinking too hard about a videogame and sucking your own fun out of it

>>12124168
If something isn't fun, that's an innate quality. I'm simply explaining why it isn't.

Knowing how electrons work isn't what makes being electrocuted unpleasant. Or, well, maybe it is, if you have the brainpower of the average FF8 fan, lol.

>>12124181
>Knowing how electrons work isn't what makes being electrocuted unpleasant
You're proving his point. Most people have no idea how electrons work. If you go out of your way to research everything about electrons, it will obviously remove some of the magic from it.

I played FF8 blind for the first time a few years ago and never encountered any of the "problems" you guys have, and it seems like it all stems from the fact that you guys are completely deconstructing the game before you even begin.

>>12124190
>"This game sucks!"
>"N-no! You just need to learn how the junction system works! B-baka!"
>*learns junction system*
>"NO!!! You're sucking the fun out of it!!!"
I know you're just shitposting, but you could at least put some effort into it.

Honestly, where the fuck is the FF8 schizo? At least his shitposting has some passion behind it. You faggots may as well just go to twitter.

>>12124197
>learns junction system
The games Junction tutorial never tells you to do any of the things you just listed. In fact, most of those strategies weren't developed until ~10 years after the games release.
You looked that all up online, and it ruined the fun for you. No need to twist the truth.

>>12124190
>I played FF8 blind for the first time a few years ago and never encountered any of the "problems" you guys have, and it seems like it all stems from the fact that you guys are completely deconstructing the game before you even begin.
That is absolutely the problem. I know every system in the game but only lightly interact with all of them as one would naturally in a blind playthrough because it's actually more fun and challenging that way.
Nothing makes an RPG more boring than being ridiculously OP. I handicap myself in most FFs so bosses can still kill me, I like *just* getting out alive and in VIII that means leveling up naturally and not cheesing any one system .

>>12124204
>In fact, most of those strategies weren't developed until ~10 years after the games release.
What strategies? The only strategy I needed to trivialize the game went like this:
>draw Siren
>has ability to refine heal magic
>use ability
>find out tents become curagas
>you are now invincible until disc 3

>>12124208
>the game is good if you just limit yourself to create artificial challenge
Well at least you're being honest about how poorly-designed the game is.

>>12124223
>Well at least you're being honest about how poorly-designed the game is.
I am, but it's true of most RPGs ever.
If you spend 50 hours grinding Skyrim for the best gear and play sneak / archer you'll be OP and it won't be as fun as playing an axe user with crap equipment because the tension isn't there in battles.

>>12124223
>doesn't help that most of the bosses cap their stats once you reach level 60
You don't learn stuff like this naturally. You clearly did a deep dive into the games mechanics while playing.

>>12124247
>You don't learn stuff like this naturally.
I never said I did. Nor was I talking about my personal first experience with the game. I played it normally back around 2009 and thought it was boring and dumb. I've just learned how everything works in the intervening years out of curiosity.

The fact that you can't grasp wanting to learn is weird. Says a lot about the mindset of the average FF8 enjoyer, I guess.

>>12124283
>I played it normally back around 2009 and thought it was boring and dumb
>The fact that you can't grasp wanting to learn is weird.
I certainly wouldn't invest as much time into learning about games I dislike as you guys put into digging into FF8, that's for sure.
Seems like a huge waste of time to dig into something I dislike for the sole purpose of arguing with fans of it online.

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I wonder if any of you took the SeeD tests.

>>12124363
Always, up to whatever lvl I am.
You never need gil in the game though so it's a little pointless.

>>12121682
Yeah. VIII has a nice story even in its cut down state, but there's just not enough game to balance it out.

>>12123702
I got so many boners watching her summon animation as a teen, heh.

>>12121170
Don't degrade the prestigious name of SaGa with the overrated turd that is FFVIII.

>>12121619
>>12121489
>>12121378
He clearly didn't play X either

>>12121682
>FF8 was the first time that the core FF development team had been split—half went to work on 8, and the other half on 9.
They also pulled this shit with Legend of Mana and SaGa Frontier 2 as well. Actual clown company.

Any place to read about the unused content of VIII, by the way?

>>12122905
>other people liked it so you're not allowed to call it shit even though it is!!!
Baby logic.

I have never played this game. I think that every single thing I've ever read about it has made it seem even less promising than it did before.

>>12124626
To be fair, you need a fairly high IQ to understand Final Fantasy VIII.

>>12124624
keep coping with your “objective” hot takes while the rest of us replay it and enjoy the waifu gallery, you salty virgin.
>>12124626
it's a great game and is well respected by FF fans. /vr/ is just dying of contrarianism-poisoning.

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>>12124636
>/vr/ is just dying of contrarianism-poisoning.
Half of 4chan is people just going into threads to find shit to make fun of or complain about. Or any excuse they can find to call someone "nigger" or "idiot." It's normal.

>>12124614
https://tcrf.net/Final_Fantasy_VIII

>>12124648
if it's normal, irony is still a poison to any real humor.
just as it's "normal" to shit your pants if nobody ever taught you to shit elsewhere.

>>12122345
Wait, are people still not understanding why Tifa didn't say anything? It's been over two decades and actual adults are still confused by something directly spelled out in game. That's grim.

>>12124626
Makes sense, I mean what better way to experience a game than to let other people form your opinion for you

>>12121097
Jock RPG

>>12124626
just know that squall dies after a certain event and the rest is all a fleeting dream.

Which other FF title has not one but TWO schizo theories about it? Best FF of all time.

>>12124790
>It's also possible for Griever to draw and cast the "Slots" spells if you hack them into your stock. This includes The End, which will kill your entire party. As the spell was never meant to be used on the player's side of the battlefield, the animation will look very odd, showing a black void that is behind the usual flower field.
god i love how much stupid crap you can do with a gameshark in FF8

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Sex with Moomba and Carbuncle!

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>>12124626
Lemme guess, you cant play it because the designated canon waifu is a roastie who already got pumped & dumped by the best boy before the game even starts?

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>>12121117
>Oh well, no time to think about that too much since I now have to off-screen heal the wound I got from being impaled by this giant icicle in my chest and falling to my doom, then never bring it up again.

>>12125876
Would not fuck, would pet. Those things were adorable. It's a shame that they never caught on like Chocobos and Moogles did. Outside as an easter egg for one of the dolls Lulu used in FFX and what feels like an unfinished secret character in Chocobo Racing their existence has never even been acknowledged again outside of a handful of now-dead mobile gacha trash FF games.

>>12125887
he got hit in the shoulder, not the heart. galbadia army wanted to interrogate him about SeeD so letting him die was counterproductive so they healed his wounds.

>>12125887
He fell like 2 feet from a parade float

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>>12125894
>We need to interrogate him so heal him up so well that he literally does not have even the smallest scar left over as if nothing happened
Yeah, sure.

>>12125907
>Ignoring the four foot fucking icicle in his chest

You idiots act like it's just a flesh wound, they wouldn't make it a dramatic end-of-disk-1 cutscene if it was just meant to be fucking nothing that can just be ignored or explained away with "Galbadia used a potion"

>>12125917
rule of cool. and considering they never explain or even touch on the subject for the rest of the game, yes Im going to say galbadia used a potion. the only other argument is squall=dead which is retarded schizo nonsense and has literally been debunked by the devs.

>>12125919
squall=dead is indeed fucking retarded, but it's also ridiculous that they just gloss over it, especially after how dramatic they made it as the end of disk 1 scene. Start up Disk 2 and Squall just goes "No wound? How?" and it's never brought up again, it's almost like the devs were admitting it's a plot hole and to just ignore it because they couldn't come up with a good reason either.

>>12121357
>>12121736
>>12124385

I think the amnesia plot line could've been handled much, much better. In FF7 it was actually quite interesting how Cloud was pretending to be someone else and then he had to be snapped out of it. In FF8 the amnesia thing is mentioned a couple of times but it feels like a cop-out someone came up in the last minute instead of something that was there from the beginning. Also the orphanage thing was weird, why did the kids need to be childhood friends as well? Surely there could've been numerous orphanages around the world and they could've just when they went to school?

>>12125887
That icicle was whatever magic.

>>12126160
explained by
>>12122340

>>12125923
Rinoa=Ultimecia makes far more sense. Squall didn't dick her down in the end so she became a 40 yo cat lady with sorceress powers and came up with the Time Kompression plan to get another chance at hate fuck (this time).

>>12122386
>High caste
Nojima
>Middle caste
Kojima
>Lowest caste
Nojima
>Atomic bomb caste
Hiroshima

>>12126175
>>12122340
Hm ok, fair enough. By "the message they sent back" you're referring to the ending scene where Squall tells Edea that he has defeated the sorceress, and that he's a SeeD from Balamb Garden? Or was there something else? I feel like Timber Maniacs was also dropping some foreshadowing / deep lore but it's been too long since I played the game to remember all the little details (and I didn't even find them all).

>>12121489
>the Junction system is one of the best things Square has ever done.
How can someone be this insanely retarded. It's a mediocre system at best and a broken mess of ideas most of the time.
FF8 in general can be described as that. A lot of square games in the 90's were but most were relegated to side games or entirely separate series, like Crono Cross. FF8 had the misfortune of being a mess with a mainline title. Expectations were very high and the execution was poor, even if you like 8 and all of it's systems they are presented to the player in the most mind numbing and gay way possible. Who the fuck wants to go to school, take a class and read a textbook as a tutorial. I guarantee most people just mash X through all that and then get confused to what the fuck is happening. I can't blame them for not wanting to sit through 50 paragraphs of random bullshit to explain how to retarded ass junction system works.

>>12126371
>NOOOO STOP MAKING ME READ!!!! GIVE ME THE SAME EXACT SLOP MY DOUBLE DIGIT IQ FEELS SAFE WITH!!! AIEEEEEE WHAT A MESS

>>12126371
It's true. Materia and Junction are the two best magic systems Square has ever come up with. What magic system have they created that you think is better?
>read a textbook as a tutorial. I guarantee most people just mash X
Not really sure what you're referring to. Quistis takes you into the menu and physically shows you how to use the Junction system, just like Barret does with Materia in FF7.

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>>12126390
>Materia and Junction are the two best magic systems Square has ever come up with
Agreed. How would a mix between the two work out?

>>12126381
>>12126390
I had a long thought out response for this, but I'll just condense it to FF8 is incredibly pretentious.

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Found my old guide last night! (not my pic, mine is in much worse shape kek). Pretty hype to really dive into Triple Triad this playthrough. I always play a bit, but have never went all in on collecting all of the rare cards.

>>12126723
Thanks for bumping it the FF8 thread.

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>>12126745
>Triple Triad

>>12121817
No one acts like this. They just hate the system because it's needlessly complex and tedious compared to equipment, while adding nothing.

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>Hmmmmm I'm pretty sure they both died in the cruel void of space, but maybe they're in that giant spaceship over there? Good thing I'm riding this hidden sidequest bird!