Robotnik beats Wily with Metal Sonic. No contest by this point really, Wilys greatest robot in the classic series ended up being Bass, who's only real power is looking cool because he's inferior to Mega Man still
>>12127250Wily mostly reprogrammed robots, Robotnik was always the superior inventor even if crazier
Robotnik is the better mechanic but a terrible designer, weak points in very obvious places
>>12127250>limiting wily to classic series so you can exclude zero
>>12127841Yeah because it's a retcon series that may as well be a different universe, just like mmzero
>>12128658What does it retcon?
>>12128787Zero existing in the classic series. Also the tones don't add up to the same world as all. It's going from a cartoony lighthearted world to some young teen melodramatic anime
>>12129026That's not what retcon means.All megaman games were being tied together into one universe as early as the first X game. They're separate series specifically to keep one of them lighthearted, and another one mature, instead of mixing both.
>>12129057A retcon is anything that retroactively makes changes to an established work. So saying Wily created Zero during the classic series when he wasn't even in it is a retcon, it changes the established fiction within a different series
>>12127841>zeroNot real Mega man
>>12129070Megaman X came out before Megaman 6 and Power Fighters. Just because Zero wasn't mentioned in Megaman 1 doesn't mean they can't fucking add new lore to the series later on.You want a real retcon? SEGA now officially recognizes Robotnik as Dr. Eggman's real name, while "Eggman" became a moniker, even though the latter was there first.
>>12129115>67* I mean. The one where Rock displays self-awareness and shows first signs of the series going "dark" when he almost murdered Wily.
>>12129115>SEGA now officially recognizes Robotnik as Dr. Eggman's real name, while "Eggman" became a monikerok based
>>12129115Sonic always had different lore in different countries, this isn't uncommon, Transformers was and still is the same. US lore, UK lore, and JPN lore. Sonic never took off in Japan and his main fandom is the US, so it makes no sense to ignore Robotnik being his name. Japan literally doesn't care so it's only going to upset the extreme minority of Weeb Sonic fans who cling to the Japanese lore that barely exists
>>12129182>Sonic never took off in Japan and his main fandom is the US, so it makes no sense to ignore Robotnik being his name.Tell that to Iizuka. He was determined to purge Robotnik out of canon and the rest of Sega rightly told him to fuck off with that.
>>12129182>Sonic always had different lore in different countriesBut different Megaman series can't have different tones? What's the deal then?Robotnik is far more intimidating and formidable in the West depending on the game or even offshoot media, like SatAM. Hell, Sonic is a war veteran in some western comics. Not to mention the melodrama from 6th gen Sonic games.
>>12129115>SEGA now officially recognizes Robotnik as Dr. Eggman's real name>nowThat has been a thing for almost thirty years now.
>>12129195You mean Naka. Iizuka has never come off as someone who disliked western elements of Sonic. They even started included stuff like chilidogs in the games around the time he took lead of Sonic Team in Naka's place.
>>12127742shut up nerd
>>12129115>SEGA now officially recognizes Robotnik as Dr. Eggman's real nameHe was always called Robotnik in my games and the comic that was released here in the 90s. Learning he suddenly started to get called Eggman was news to me
>>12130219It was an attempt at synergy that didn't pan out
>>12129070>saying Wily created Zero during the classic series when he wasn't even in it is a retconA future event is not a retcon, moron. Is Wily making his own custom robots in MM2 suddenly retconning MM1?
>>12127250That hunk of junk didn't even survive ramming into a wall, I don't think the latest and greatest are all that necessary.What could he even do against anyone with a barrier like Woodman or Starman?Or actually tanky guys like Hardman and Stoneman?Or a constant barrage of attacks like Airman or Astroman?Or reality-warpers like Flashman or Gravityman?Or speedsters like Quickman and Topman?
