I am deeply concerned with weather I actually beat games this day and age. I have beaten many games on emulators and old games running on modern PCs, but the question hovers: did I beat the game?Was what I did what was expected by not only developers but the culture at the time the games came out. Did the developers factor in playing in an arcade environment? I think environmental factors matter. Or with an old ball mouse? I think peripherals matter.To go even further, if I beat a light gun game on an emulator with a mouse, both environmental and peripheral factors are wrong. The question becomes have I even played the game?I don't know where the line is between actually experiencing the game and not lies exactly. Or where actually beating the game lies. Can a game from the 80's even be beaten if that game is no longer IN the 80's?If I play the prototype of a game, have I played the actual game?If a game was released in an unfinished state, did anyone play it? What if it was completed and released outside its time, can anyone actually play it then?Obviously I have played *something* and beaten *something*, but was it the game itself? A second parallel game? Something else?I don't know.
>>12132113>I am deeply concerned with weather I actually beat games this day and age.no you aren't, you also spelled whether wrong. Dont make troll threads its against site rules.
>>12132113If it bothers you, then go play with as close to original peripherals for that console, then, livestream it to an audience to act as your 'referee' so that they can call you out if you cheat, or use save states or whatever is bothering you. You really aren't that concerned you don't need a time machine to claim you beat a game.
>>12132113You did not beat the games. You did not even play the games. You are not quite the retro gamer.
>>12132113>I am deeply concerned with weather I actually beat gamesIf you finish the game on a sunny day, you've beaten it. If it was raining or cloudy then no, you have to replay.
just play the fuckin games idiot
>>12132113Alright I'll make some rulings. Note that all of them will be correct. Ball mouse vs. optical mouse? Doesn't matter enough to worry about. Light gun vs. mouse? Matters a lot; you didn't beat the game. Trackball vs. some other thing that isn't a trackball? I'm not sure but I think it probably matters enough that one could truthfully claim you need a trackball to beat the game (and it probably needs to have at least roughly the same size and mass as the original). Keyboard vs. dance pad? Matters enormously; you didn't beat the game. Arcade environment vs. emulator running on a device you own? Matters some but not enough to say you didn't beat the game - in most cases at least; certain games will have special gimmicks that just don't really work in an ordinary emulation environment. That's also assuming you don't pump in simulated coins like they're nothing - you need to at least lightly pretend that coins have value when you're emulating arcade games, or you didn't beat the game. Playing in the 80s vs. playing now? Matters in various ways but not in this one - you did beat the game. Prototype vs. normal public version? In general you didn't beat the game, but if the two are similar enough then it doesn't really matter and you can reasonably say you beat the game. CRT filters and such that artificially simulate the original game vs. the original game as it looked on original hardware? It's fine either way; you did beat the game. Weird graphical "upgrades" such as resolution increases or widescreen hacks for fixed-resolution games, fanmade texture packs, etc. vs. the original graphics? You probably are a douche with bad taste, but you probably did beat the game.Of course ALL the aforementioned was written under the assumption that you are not abusing the cheat-enablement features of emulators such as save states. If you do that then of course you didn't beat the game.
>>12132270And finally ->If a game was released in an unfinished state, did anyone play it? What if it was completed and released outside its time, can anyone actually play it then?Here you're going too far into philosophy, whereas I was dispensing practical judgments. These are not practical questions and I don't care to explore them. Dudes loosely agree on what a game is, and that becomes the game's definition, like how words are defined (and redefined). It's a fuzzy process and you shouldn't bother aiming for precision when dealing with the products of it. If you want to talk metaphysics then maybe find another forum for that; we are mostly practical folk here.
>>12132113Just fucking
No anon, you did not.Now go and beat them RIGHT. I'm FUCKING WAITING.
>>12132113Yes anon, you beat the game. I'm proud of you. Keep it up.
>>12132113>I am deeply concerned with weatherokay then stay inside lil bro, nice and warm.
>>12132113I want Marin to depend on me as I depend on her
>>12132113Go ask someone who doesn't frequent this board. You'll never get an accurate response from any of the losers who hang out here.Besides, who gives a shit? Video games are meant to be fun. Life's too short to worry about the minutiae.
>>12132940The only "accurate response" to a neurotic insecure childs desperate cry for attention is mental health care
YOU MUST INVENT A TIME MACHINE TO TRAVEL BACK AND THEN TRANSFER YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS INTO THE BALLSACK OF A JAPANESE BUSINESSMAN TO BE BORN JAPANESE OTOKO AND PRAY THE GAME IN THE RIGHT CONTEXT OR IT DOES NOT COUNT
>>12132113I mean, genuinely, what even is the experience of the game vs not the game? Where are you even drawing those definitions from and those lines at? What about the game of chess? Are we not playing chess if we play on a piece of cardboard and plastic molded pieces as opposed to a wooden board and hand carved ivory pieces?Even if we go back into time and have all the authentic equipment, stylings, furnishings, and trappings of the 80s, where exactly does the experience begin and end? What's the difference between being in an arcade in the 80s to play a game vs playing on that same arcade cabinet out of your garage? Can you say you didn't play the game if you played it alone in your living room as opposed to inviting your friends over for pizza and soda while just having watched a blockbuster movie on your VCR before hand, staying up til 1 am before passing out with Nintendo Power in your hands?Maybe what you're really after isn't even actually the game. Maybe what you're after is the fantasy of enjoying time off in an era that can never be recaptured thanks to the revolving door of ever-evolving technology having almost certainly warped the psyche and societal expectations of an entire generation?
>>12132113If you watched a film in anything other than a cinema during the original release window, have you really seen the film?
>>12134787>that pseud kid who imagines file has been used in cinemas in his lifetime
>read the first sentence>think this is a modified copypasta mocking the you-didnt-beat-the-game crowd>read the entire op>weather not mentioned again>it was an esl thread all alongmy day is ruined, etc etc
>>12132940i like making "i use save state" threads every now and then to rile up the manchildren. they take the bait every time and you can easily get 100 posts in 24 hours
>>12132113you have never beaten a game in your life
>>12132113Did you kill the final boss? You beat the game.Did you use cheats at any point? You did not beat the game.
