This game was so good. I spent 60hrs playing it and wanted to start over immidietly but have so many games on my blacklist I moved on but can't stop thinking about playing it with different builds and using the knowledge I gained on my first run to have an easier time. I love this game
>>12132871>have so many games on my blacklist>blacklistESL moment
>>12132871Sadly foreknowledge only helps a little bit with DQ8 because even if you have a wiki open with all the alchemy recipes and an image of a map with all treasure chests and all the best monsters to recruit, they find a way to gatekeep what you're allowed to have at any one point in the game.
>>12132871Play the remake next time, it has more playable characters
>>12132902Not OP, I love the additions of the 3DS port, I just wish it didn't sacrifice so much in terms of graphics and sound in the process. Maybe one day we'll get a perfect edition that has the best aspects of both, and considering all the DQ games ending up on steam that's not unlikely.
>>12132904Seeing how jap devs handle remakes they are going to make a new version with new content but not the 3ds's version content
>>12132918It's 50/50 when they do that, because usually the new content they don't include was some shit tacked on for a handheld version that barely anyone liked, like the arena in Chrono Trigger.
>>12132902>Red and Morrie just so happened to be able to escape the church offscreen when the rest of the party get jailed, so they don't have to redo the cutscenes to include themBullshit.
>>12132934Really? That's your complaint? Not that Red completely invalidates ever using Yangus because mechanically she's just Yangus but faster?
>>12132942Yangus was always the worst party member. His only purpose late game is to use either Timbrel of tension or Sage's Stone every turn.
>>12132942The story was meant only for the main four. Red and Morrie are so obviously tacked-on as playable that it's actively detracting when the developers have to pretend those two don't exist during major cutscenes so they don't have to redo any of them.
>>12132951Yeah but I'm speaking from the perspective of someone that's beaten the game 10 times and isn't playing for the story anymore.
>>12132904If someone could just make an HD/PS2 textures mod for the 3DS version, we'd be 85% of the way there. I think the geometry is less complex in the 3ds port but what's most noticeable is the low res textures.
>>12133053>HD/PS2 textures mod for the 3DS version, we'd be 85% of the way thereThe problem is not the textures because it wasn't simply a scaling down, they rebuilt it from the ground up with less capability so that the handheld could run it (and in fairness, a 3DS being able to run a PS2 game at all is pretty impressive). If it was just textures then someone would've made a hi-res mod for it in emulation years ago.
I maintain to this day its the only DQ game that is actually fun to play. and has one of the best overworlds in the genre. the dhoulmagus fight is weird though, such a crazy difficulty spike and the only time I had to grind besides the very start. the rest of the main story is cake including the final boss
>>12132871As long as the titties are protected and maintained this game will always be GOAT
How shit is the encounter ratio on the ps2? Real hardware g2g or should I emulate for speedhacks?I remember late 2000s /v/ when this game and Nocturne were considered the most difficult and hardcore jrpgs, pre-Souls
>>12132904At least you can mod the orchestral soundtrack into it
>>12133175Encounter rate is medium/high but the way the game works, you'd have to grind anyway for the most part. So you might as well just fight every battle. I did this and only grinded metal slides a couple times for fun but probably not necessary
Really impressive for a 2004 game.
>>12133786Best artstyle and best looking game on the ps2. Its timeless and still looks amazing. Especially on a crt
>>12133818Rogue Galaxy looks better and its also a level5 gameGrandia 3 looks even better.
>>12133840Except rogue galaxy runs at 20fps and is boring as fuck
>>12133175annoying. I reccomend playing with a no encounters code you can turn on/off so you can just explore when you want to.
>>12133818upscaled in an emulator looks better than a crt for this game. also okami and to a lesser extent odins sphere still look nicer.
>>12133848What? Rogue Galaxy runs smooth as fuck on real hardware. Are you mixing games up?
Recommend me builds for the PS2 original.I'm thinking:>HeroSpears 12 (for metal slime hunting)Swords 100Courage 100Fisticuffs 11I did spears the last time I played, but I can't remember if it was good or not. It was like 6 years ago.>YangusHumanity 16Axes 19 (for metal slime hunting)Rest in Scythes for improved Big Banga at level 54>JessicaWhips 23 (for TDL)Staff 100>AngeloStaff 65Swords 40I did bows last time, and it was kinda underwhelming.
>>12133918imo for Metal Slime hunting you're better off using Falcon Swords on Hero and Angelo, and use double tension (tension build+timbrel). You'll be saving those 12 spear points.
>>12133918>buildslmao
why is twin dragon lash so fucking powerful. shes supposed to be a mage it makes no sense. I used it the entire game and I dont think I got more powerful skills from hero/yangus till the very end.
>>12134670Rude.
>>12134669Would you recommend swords over bows for Angelo over all? I'm undecided about Angelo mostly because he gets so few skill points. And he just seems underwhelming in general.
>>12134752iirc I speard Sword+Staff for him on both my playthroughs and it was nice but I can't say if other things are better
This or Dark Cloud 2?
>>12132871I love it too. It's just a jolly good adventure and I was humbled to play a game where the people in it speak the same accent that I do. Wondering around the green pastures while that lovely music floats in the air was a wonderful experience.
>>12134884Dark Cloud 2 is a good game but it has so many mechanics and can feel a bit overwhelming and repetitive too. Its more action rpg is procedural generated dungeons so that can get old. DQ8 is an oldschool RPG, bosses dont have any gimmicks and if youre stuck you can just grind and make the game a cakewalk. Its all just a stat game with a beautiful art style and overworld, has amazing characters and a good story
>>12132871I fucking hate this game and think it's a giant waste of time.>but have so many games on my blacklistnot surprised a fan of this game is a retard
>>12133175>How shit is the encounter ratio on the ps2?It's whatever, about what you expect for a DQ game that doesn't have roaming monsters on he field.
>>12134669nta but what? Usually I bothered to get the spear move that's a guaranteed crit if it hits for MKS
>>12133918The problem with the PS2 version is due to the lack of respec, there are no "builds". You either pick what's good for your character in endgame or you accept having a worse character. So while say Boomerangs are good early game, they fall off hard late game so you're a fool to put any points into them.
>Art Director - DONT YOU DARE USE ANY FORM OF ATMOSPHERIC PERSPECTIVE OR NUANCED TONES ON 3DS! ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE MOST JARRING TECHNICOLOR CRAP IMAGINABLE IS FORBIDDEN!>Team: Yes Director-sama!
>>12135090Damn that shit looks ugly. I'm surprised there's been no definitive version of this game yet that combines the visuals of the PS2 version (or better) with the extra content from the 3DS and the US PS2 version's UI elements and symphonic music.
>>12135050Yeah you replied to a retard, the critical hit spear/axe attacks are the best way to hunt MKS. Liquid Metals I guess you can use falcon swords for but for Metal King Slimes nothing is as reliable as one shotting them on round 1 by using the Hero and Yangus' critical attacks.
>>12132871Y'all didn't tell me Pepe the frog was in this game chat that's crazy work chat
>>12133918What's the canon name for the hero in Japanese ?
>>12135234Literally Eight/Eito
>got killed in the starting cave because I had no items that can cure shitty meme curses or whatever>one hour of progress wasted
>>12135337There's no traditional game over in Dragon Quest games though? You just lose half your current held gold.