>Retro game series has no reason to return to these daysCan you think of a better example? I have no idea how some of you still unironically play the Wizardry series. It has aged incredibly poorly.
>>12133059>Weak bait thread
>>12133075Its not bait I despise this series and want to be convinced otherwise as to why people like it
>>12133095It focuses on the gameplay rather than endless pointless dialog and cutscenes.
>>12133059>aged poorlyIt was born a turd.Has as much gameplay as gambling simulators (makes sense because it's based on a dice game)
So wrong. It's actually astonishing how well the core gameplay of Wizardry has held up. The PS1 ports make 1-5 perfectly playable even today.
>>12133095Why? I'm not playing a zero sum game to try and "convince" you of something you've obviously made up your mind regarding already.Shit thread
"Retro game series has no reason to return to these days" is bizarre phrasing. It sounds like a newspaper headline about a game series that has gained consciousness and decided it has no reason to return to some poorly specified set of days. You got to proofread your stuff mang
>>12133059Persona 1 and 2 (with the ow the edge expansions)Heroes games before III (II looks like shit, deal with it)Might & Magic before 8Biohazard before 4Movie Game Slop (MGS till 3)
>>12133059It aged perfectly well unless you are trying to play 4
I like how straight to the point it is. You organize a team, head into the dungeon and then make your way through. If they die then another band of adventurers goes into the dungeon. The story telling is self-defined and emergent. It's also nice to see where it all started.
>>12133095>Is not bait is just baitWell, to ruin your day, Wizardy Variants Daphne exist and the 10 guys who love Wizardry enjoy it a lot
>>12133142So because you can't argue and deny my point you are grasping at straws about my phrasing. About par for the course, people who cannot argue usually do stick to grammar and phrasing bs.>>12133129Because it doesn't say you can't change my mind anywhere. It says I want to be convinced otherwise maybe you will open my eyes. For context I've tried Wizardry 3 and 5.
>>12133370>It says I want to be convincedThen go play the games yourself, like actually play them, put some time in, and find what people enjoy out of them. Or are you the kind of worthless retard that needs to be told what to think.Dog shit thread still
>>12133059Go play the dark spire if you're genuine. It's pretty much Wizardry on the DS.
>>12133372>Or are you the kind of worthless retard that needs to be told what to thinkBut enough about people that like Wizardry
>>12133059Cool spritework
>i cant enjoy turn based rpgs and its everyone elses fault
>>12133416KWABThis bitch got party wiped by a level 3 ninja and never touched a Wizardry game again.
>>12133370>Because it doesn't say you can't change my mindThat's not what you want. You want to argue.
>>12133059Incredible art style. Which entry is this?
>>12133151Nigga heroes 1 is objectively the best looking, and 2 at least looks better than 3. 3 has great gameplay but looks fucking horrible
>>12133460And when the hell did I say that? In total I've probably played more turn based dungeon crawlers, JRPGs and CRPGs than you.I specifically said I dislike Wizardry. You and a lot of other people in this thread are parrots who think they are intellectuals by repeating phrases and none of you have done a single thing to explain why Wizardry is good and worth going back to. About what I'd expect from /vr/
>>12133476Because there's a lot of people that "love Wizardry" in this thread anon let the hater be the one to actually answer you: Wizardry V for PC-98
>>12133483kek, thanks anon.enjoy your debate.
>>12133491Thanks, but there is no debate. Just a bunch of parrots here.
>>12133480Sounds like you are fag that plays jrpgs for the waifus and le story, go read a visual novel weebo
>>12133495You posted this thread here instead of /vrpg/ because you're a coward.
>>12133059The issue is that Wizardry was always a garbage series. Like genuinely the only reason it ever was popular is because it was one of like 5 games you could play on a home computer back then that was more than an extremely basic arcade game or platformer. It has always been shit and even the better later titles were absolutely devastated by any other title. I will give them credit for the sprite work and just artwork of the series in general, it's extremely well done and really was the only thing worth a damn in these games.Now I will give some benefit of the doubt I have only played 3 wizardry titles (4,5,6) so maybe the others are somehow better but I doubt it.My honest answer would be SSI gold box games, they were really fun for the time and they still are but they are eclipsed in almost every way by later RPGs and there's nothing really unique enough about them to make them stand out. They were generic as can be, well made but generic nonetheless.
>>12133503I posted it here because that place is a damn barren wasteland. Was posting there a bit ago today and legit almost no new replies in the threads there.
I had more fun playing wizardry 1-2-3 on snes than other mainstream rpg.Drawing a map on paper is part of the fun.Without wizardry modern rpg will not exist.I'l try the 4th wizardry this winter on my ps1.If you like the genre i recommend - "dragon crystal" on master system,-"fatal labyrinth" on megadrive - "bard's tale" on nes (a really long and grindingly roguelike)- and the so cute and casual but incredible "cave noire" on gameboy.
>>12133553The 4th one is really different, don't feel bad about skipping it if you don't like it
>>12133567OP here, the 4th one is the most interesting one I have played (not finished) and have no idea why the first mention of it in this thread was an attack to it.It felt like a very interesting precursor to games like Shin Megami Tensei.
>>12133573> It felt like a very interesting precursor to games like Shin Megami Tensei.It came out after Megami Tensei.
>>12133581Wait really? As in after the games not the books it was based on?
>>12133608You can check release dates on mobygames.https://www.mobygames.com/game/10884/digital-devil-story-megami-tensei/https://www.mobygames.com/game/1272/wizardry-the-return-of-werdna-the-fourth-scenario/
>>12133609Damn yeah I was just checking before coming back here. I do know that Megami Tensei was the precursor to SMT and all that and that they were based on the OG trilogy of books, but for some reason I seem to remember it being:Megami Tensei (books) > Wizardry IV > Megami Tensei IBasically I always thought Atlus were inspired by Wizardry IV when adapting Megami Tensei into a game. This is really interesting and has just placed Wizardry even lower in my mind. I need to play Megami Tensei 1 to see how it compares.
>>12133512>The issue is that Wizardry was always a garbage series. Like genuinely the only reason it ever was popular is because it was one of like 5 games you could play on a home computer back then that was more than an extremely basic arcade game or platformer. This is exactly how I feel anon. I am not denying their influence, I just do not see a good reason to go back except arguably if you really like the atmosphere which I will admit and do agree with you that the artwork in SOME of them can be pretty decent, like in the pic of my post of PC-98 Wizardry V.>My honest answer would be SSI gold box gamesInteresting pick lol, I haven't tried these yet but do see what you mean from the pictures.
>>12133059If it aged so poorly why are japanese people so obsessed with recreating it and failing at every turn?
>>12133639All Japanese Wizardry games are better than the Darkshit trilogy
>>12133059What do you not like about Wizardry?
>>12133648Maybe on planet retard.
>>12133667Retards like no risk rest anywhere gay trekkie slop
>>12133664i think he don't like it for the lack of scenario/ town npc and endless chatting / hours of fmv.I mean...Wizardry is a DUNGEON crawler, not a CITY crawler.
>>12133670Retards like the same JRPG slop over and over again instead of something that branches out, expands, and does new things.
>>12133664Not OP but for me they too archaic and are designed in a way that rewards grind and not strategy. Even from the start of rolling a character.
>>12133680Retards think new thing must always be good despite being shit, if you want new things go play another thing, don't ruin already established thing.
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>>12133763Literally have never seen a dqfag or smtfag shit on wizardry
>>12133536that place is just wrpgfags vs jrpgfags and occasionally juxtafag, it's so shitty. doesn't even allow action rpgs like castlevania either.
is Bard's Tale better than Wizardry
>>12134237Depends which Wizardry
>>12133095You ever played first edition D&D? You ever played a tabletop war game? Kinda the same thing.Heavier focus on the combat rather than story-telling with the idea that you create a story as you go in your head. If you're not willing to come up with little stories of your characters around a campfire or imagine what kind of person your mage is, Wizardry isn't really for you. Its main focus is dungeon crawling and combat but with enough there that it also works as an engine for building stories about your characters too.
