Optical media always sucked, if we’re being honest.>flimsy scratchable plastic discs>slow as fuck load times; devs constantly having to buffer data in the background to compensate>drive parts and laser are prone to breaking down over time>no built-in saves, have to buy a memory card separately>discs rot and become unreadable in 20 years, even when properly stored>incentivized devs and publishers to spend more money filling up the extra storage space with cheesy dated “cinematic” FMVs, voiceovers, recorded music, and prerendered backgrounds instead of just making a really good gameNintendo actually had it right with the N64, but the economics of mass-producing carts vs. discs were never going to work in its favor.
*sigh* we miss you /vr/ janny when shitflinging threads like these would be baleeted within the hour
>Nintendo actually had it right with the N64
I could buy three great PS1 games for the price of one N64 game.Who cares that the discs are rotting now when I have every game on a hard disk anyway.
>>12138101I look like this
Go back to /v/ zoomer scum
>>12138086I love how you point out a bunch of nonsense who cares issues with these when the real issue is these things cost less than a penny to produce and yet you would spend at least $20 for one but more likely $40-50. If they just had an option to replace your disc as long as you had proof of purchase or sent in your busted disc it would be fine but ofcourse you just have to buy another one when they inevitably fail. I stole like 10 copies of dead rising because of how frequently those discs got destroyed and I ain't buying the same fucking game again.
>>12138086>>discs rot and become unreadable in 20 years, even when properly storedlol, I hate CDs too, but there's no need to be a lying shitter.
OP I have CDs from the mid 90s that still read perfectly because I am not a mental child who treats them like whatever caused the damage in your picrel
>>12138101nigga is more happy than 95% of /vr/ posters
>>12138121>If they just had an option to replace your disc as long as you had proof of purchase or sent in your busted disc it would be fineDo you know how retarded you sound right now? Offering replacement discs 20-30 years down the road if it fails? No company would ever do that, and if they were forced to, they would immediately stop selling video games physically.
>>12138086>Optical media always sucked, if we’re being honest.Works on my machine. Literally.
>>12138086I agree to the point that i wish carts stayed the standard and just evolved over time till they had the capabilities of cd medium, but everything else you said is retarded.
>>12138086optical media did suck, just like limited storage capacity cartridges from the N64, and VHS tapes, and laserdisc, and casette tapes, and 8-track. Interacting with these in 2025 when it is no longer necessary is the goal.CRTs were great however, elevating the graphical technology that consoles could output at the time instead of limiting them like the storage mediums. They sucked for movies though.
>>12138101>Ghostbusters cosplayerWhat a jolly fellowIt would be funny to cosplay as the full team, but I don't know any black dude personally and have met less than twenty negros in my life, I guess, so I guess it won't beUnless one of friends goes blackface, here nobody would care about that
>>12138101I'm happy that he's happy.
>>12138121>I stole like 10 copies of dead rising because of how frequently those discs got destroyed and I ain't buying the same fucking game again.Do you have Cerebral Palsy or some shit?
>Cheaper to produce, leading to bigger libraries at any local video store>Allowed far more developers to make games>Magazines can have game demo discs in them>You can make infinite copies of games at home with simple software>Games can have ANY form of music in them (sampled, sequenced, Redbook, etc.)>You can listen to your own music CDs while playing your games>The games themselves can also be music discs of their own that you can listen to in any CD playerOptical media won. And it wrote history at the most important moment of the videogame industry.
>>12138086>disc rot>become unreadable in 20 years>even when properly storedThis is a fantastic /vr/ forced meme that I've seen from time to time, only here on /vr/. I own thousands of CD's, DVD's, Blu Ray's, etc. Basically, every flavor of disc. Including some mini discs. In my 41 years, I have never experienced. >disc rotOne of two things are going on here. Maybe three. Environmental factors, notably humidity, You're a mong, and finally, this is bait. Likely bait due to never experiencing this personally, or had any friends experience it, that I know of.Either way, it's a plastic disc. They're weren't made to be handled like token play things. 4/10 for reply.
disc rot isn't real
>>12138578I saw my first example of disc rot IRL last week.It was a CD-R I burned about 12-ish years ago. It was kept in my parents garage for the last 6-ish years, so I figured that had something to do with it.None of the other CDs it was kept with were affected, so I assume this is mostly a problem with cheap CD-Rs.
>>12138578
Disc rot only happens to badly produced discs to begin with. Just like a cartridge with fauty connectors.I have a burned disc of a PS2 game from 2002 that still works flawlessly.
>>12138625I think it's also dependent on how/where your discs are stored.
>>12138630NTA but it's always caused by manufacturing errors. when this happens, that entire production run is affected and will inevitably rot. a well-pressed disc will never rot.
Discs are literally so good that they're the (literal) stone tablets of today.Seethe, cartridgetards.
>>12138086>discs rot and become unreadable in 20 yearsbeen 25~27 years and all of my ps1 discs are intactbeen 20~23 years and all of my ps2 discs are intactNintendo choose cartridges for the n64 because they are stubborn and contrarian retards.Recently added silica packets on each case just to be safer
Disc rot is literally a super rare issue, if you don't take care of your shit that's on you.
all of that pales in comparison to making game development far more economical and easier to breech for developers.
>>12138698Be sure you're drying your silica gel packets in an oven once every year or two
>go to the philips website>look for their cd-r>this article is out of productiondespite being rebranded CMC they were still better than other rebranded CMC crap, now I have to get at least one last batch from the current stock before they are gone forever and cry in my sleep
>>12138334Listen, we all wish Solid State Software Command Modules could've kept up with the times, but their production costs were just too prohibitive.
>>12138926or just replace them every now and then? I have a feeling though, this is some system32 deletion advise. Silica packets come with all kinds of electronics and other items. I usually collect them so that I can replace them from time to time, for my stored titles not shelved.
>>12138086>discs rot and become unreadable in 20 years, even when properly storedThe only thing that rotted in less than 20 years is your brain.
>>12138086I don't think I've scratched a single game disc in my entire life. I don't know how people do it.
>>12138086Most of those issues were solved by Sony in the early 90s and retarded Amerigolems refused to get on board.>>12138101He looks happy. Good for him.
>>12138910>UE5 and raytracing sloppa is actually good because it enables publishers to develop games using cheaper labor and passing none of the savings to the players
>>12140068so on the face of it your post is wrong. ps1 cd based games were cheaper than 4th and 5th gen cartridges. also good luck getting a 20$ reprint for carts.
>>12138086>DiscrotThat's flood damage.I have CD's from the 80's in my wet, irish farm house, we all literally died from rot historically, my windows are basically black and rotten.But the CD's look good as new.
>>12138101OP is wrong, but this guy is based, and I'd buy him a beer.
>>12140032Minidisk is underrated
>>12138086>disc rot What a meme! I've never seen an original disc to rot. Maybe, perhaps, the lowest quality chinkshit made from pressed cardboard with reflective coating can rot, but only under conditions you don't keep disc in normally. In other words - clean up your fucking house, you pig.
>>12138086>discs rot and become unreadable in 20 years, even when properly storedI don't entirely disagree with the rest of your points, but this is bullshit. CDs don't just magically start rotting unless there's either something wrong with how they were manufactured, or how you're treating them.
>>12138086It allowed devs who never could have afforded nintendo's cartridge stipulations to actually make games.
>>12138086No company is thinking about 30 years in the future whether or not their disc is going to work. Memory cards and batteries go bad too. Do you know how expensive things would be if they had to ensure that coomlectors could still play the games when they're 65?
>>12138602Burned discs go bad easily in my experience too. I don't think it's really fair to look at them the same way as pressed discs, since burnable discs are a quasi-disposable, consumable product and not something with the data physically pressed into them from the factory.
>>12138698How nice of them to add silica packets! They're so tasty, every nintentard says so!
>>12138101Kys
>>12138101I don't understand how people can't tell this is a fake smile. Look at his eyes, he's clearly not actually happy.
>>12140358What are the great apes doing when thry nare their teeth? That's right. It's a sign of aggresdion. Just ask DK.
>>12140369*they bare*aggression
>>12138220I honestly wouldn't even care if it was only 3 years. I don't think you understand how insanely cheap CDs and DVDs were to produce, again less than a penny per disc, it would cost more to process the paper work than to make another disc.>>12138486No I think attempts to get the 7 day survivor cheevo were particularly hard on the discs or something, because no other game I owned had the failure rate DR had, talking like having a non-functional disc every 3 months or so until I got a hard drive to install it on.
>>12140032If those are anything like UMD the issue is how much noise they made
>>12141190They're not. MiniDisc drives are practically silent, as you'd expect from a format focused primarily on music.
>>12141190>>12141228Yeah they are quiet, I still have my two minidisc players from growing up and also have a minidisc deck for a hifi stack which is also quiet
>>12138101Finally got it he finally has it
